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02 February 2006, 03:49 AM
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03 March 2006, 12:45 AM
just wanted to get some thoughts from people. I'm using my chinese fairytale i was sorta working on back in my fairytale class in college. I wanted to convey amazement and awe. So an upshot is most preferable. I do have a downshot thumbnail though. Color is a going to be a big issue, im probably going to go for some purple or something like that. no sharp hot colors unless it can be done correctly, any advice? oh, im probably going for a dawn or dusk time setting for dramatic lighting.

idea is that these adventurers the warrior and child are about to approach the mountains that lead to the stone temples that bring them the kingdom that lies amist the sky. (kingdom of heaven, maybe?, no legolas jokes:P)

04 April 2006, 10:39 PM (

Been having a hard time with the compositon. i tend to try for grandious and dynamic compositions that usually fall flat on their faces. Any advice wold be great. Just playing around with color comps.

04 April 2006, 10:41 PM (

This is a line rough with pretty much the compositon i want but i may give the focal point which is the sky/mountain tower more area by expanding the left and top of the canvas.

04 April 2006, 10:43 PM
new to the cgtalk system of uploading, so this was a messed up post.

04 April 2006, 11:58 PM
:eek:im shocked !!
is this a real chinese story or your story im asking becouse i had a story concept in mind for more then 5-6 years but i never get to the writing point and nearly forgotten until seing this id really like to read it if its a known chinese tale or your story(when finished).

and youre doing a great artwork here i think. i loved the colors. i loved the theme for a long time already:) id love to see the details coming. and the angle looks great too.

keep it coming.

04 April 2006, 02:13 AM (

heres my thumbnails for the concept of my illustration.

04 April 2006, 02:16 AM (

Thanks for the encouragement man. Heres a more finished color comp i tried later in the day, i think im going and work on the horse and figures now.

04 April 2006, 02:20 AM
Welcome to cgtalk! Nice way to come in dude, good luck dude!:thumbsup:

04 April 2006, 04:30 AM (

Having a rough time finishing this. i could use any advice from anyone right now. Any elements that i could use that could make this illustration work? Do i just need to go ahead and finish it?

Its been giving me a hard time, just working on it for so long.

04 April 2006, 05:31 AM
i think it's looking outstanding. nice job so far.

some crits:
1 definately grab some reference for the horse and riders. i think the horse is pretty small right now.

2 give em a door on top of the stairs.

3 the proporsions of the buda guy are off, but i kind of like that effect. it's an imperfect carving and it adds to the sinisterness a bit. but if that wasn't your intention, maybe grab some ref for that as well.

4 with that much cloud, even with the bright center, the shad of the horse wouldn't be quite that sharp.

5 maybe a little more foliage around the thing, stuff growing up it. make the trees look a bit intimidating, maybe?

good luck mate and have fun!!

04 April 2006, 08:28 AM
looking good story wise, just finish up the details and it will all come together.

04 April 2006, 12:54 PM
wooah.. it's hard to imagine such perspective for my mind.
but Chen, u did it well ( if this is ur first approach on such view)

The buddha concept is awesome. If u wanna get its proportion looks accurate. U can use the Top mountain hill behind him as guidance line. His Amitofu palm should follow the top mountain. Else, Smile buddha seems like goin to fall forward onto the ground.

lastly, check the horse back foot...suppose to stamp on the ground, rite?!

overall.. nice mood... the color chosen is great in this piece.. I luv how the view is forming out!..Alot of great things to go on this piece!

04 April 2006, 01:12 PM
This is looking nice so far. Good concept, neat perspective, and I really like the color choices. The mostly-muted palette with all of the more intense colors reserved for the main characters works very well.

It's hard for me to tell where the main characters and the horse are in relationship to the stairs. Are they close to it and it's a tiny staircase? Or is it a ways off and to the right of them? (making them a bit off target.) Clarifying where your ground plane ends could help a bit, especially at the bottom of the steps.

Also, while the Buddha's hands really work well in perspective, I feel like you could push the head further to hit the same perspective? Should we see more of the underside of his chin(s)? Less of his forehead maybe? Might be one of those cases where having a model - human, statue, or 3D - could be a help.

Anyhow, lots of luck with it. Have fun!


04 April 2006, 11:20 PM
thanks everyone, hopefully i'll find time to work on it this week. I really wanna knock it out soon.

04 April 2006, 01:54 AM (

Did more work on this today. i think its getting closer. Made the buddha head smaller and angled the hand to make it follow the perspective of the main spire. Made the horse larger or rather, reduced the size of the riders. Darkend the sky around the light to give more contrast between the two parts.

I added a cliff to seperate the rider/horse with the rest to give it a sense of depth to see how far the stairs are from them. starting to add folliage on the mountains. Next step will be to add vines and more folliage on the green leafy areas. I still need to work on the buddha statue as well.

04 April 2006, 01:24 AM (

Heres the latest submission, im almost positive its done. I want it to be done. I dont usually take this long for illustrations anyways.

Just wanted to know what you thought. Help from fellow cgtalk guys would be great.

04 April 2006, 01:54 AM
cool piece, however i think you should of stuck with the 1/4 sized characters in your image. that concept was strongest in my opinion.

04 April 2006, 02:37 AM
impressive view, the perspective on the big dude seems a bit off tho, sumthin about
the left shoulder i think


04 April 2006, 08:10 AM
Cool idea you got going here! I like the concept...I agree about the smaller characters and here's the thing...I think you should remove the small ball above the mountain, it's rather distracting as we can't tell what it is and the whole composition leads to it, so you spend more time trying to think what the little ball is rather than admiring the overall painting!

Aside from that... :applause:

04 April 2006, 12:12 PM
nice start indeed!

the perspective is bit curved. If this isn't intended you should move the mountain top bit to the left...

imho, the sand in front is much to bright. Either you darken it or you work out parties of the image with the same luminosity...

the buddha is really good. And I like the mossy stones... moss is great!

04 April 2006, 09:17 PM
hi, great work!
i agree with slav about the character thing. and stairs look like they have some problem they look like they are like this \ than this -- and in your sketches it looks like the horse is moving that feeling is better i hope you can understand what i want to say despite my lack of english

04 April 2006, 09:26 PM
What I think you should work on is the perspective , and try to get them accurate! The statue, the steps are the things that are bothering me at the moment. Just define ur horizon line and draw from there, nothing that photoshop can't do! Good luck with this image!:thumbsup:

05 May 2006, 01:20 AM (

Heres the final touches. i took a huge jump by adding a gold overlay layer. Whats your opinions on it? it definetly warms up the image where before it was heavily desaturated. Also, it does give more mood with the color tone layer.

Also changed the angle fo the stairs and lessened the left shoulder of the statue.

Just wanted to get opinions before i submit the final image. you guys have helped me a lot through out this, it was fun and i really can't wait to do these challenges again.

05 May 2006, 01:44 AM
First time I've seen this one . . . Nice point of view and story idea. I like the chasm just before the journiers and think it would add to the drama if you widen/deepen it and have some eerie lighting shining up and out playing off the horse and rider. . . . and if you really want to take it the extra mile get some reference materials of horses with rider rearing up in the air (such as in Zorro) and have your characters srike that pose at the dangerous edge!

Good Luck!

05 May 2006, 03:47 AM (

Final coloring, i feel i overworked this piece. Took too long and laborous.

05 May 2006, 07:29 AM (

This is an illustration done in Photoshop for "the journey begins" contest. It's from a mythical and epic chinese fairytale which i am in the process of creating as a personal project. The story is about a young boy not destined for great things but but determined to become a great man. He is accompanied an exiled warrior who sees his potential and faithfully believes this boy can become what he aspires to be.

In this scene, the two characters encounter a great and mysterious sculpture carved into the mountainside with stairs leading into the massive structure; there they must aquire a relic of magical origins to save a village. Their journey into the abyss is about to begin...

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