View Full Version : Vehicle: Cooper Mini + Mutations

12 December 2002, 08:21 PM
hey folks,

this is a project that i've been working on, off and on, for the last 6 months or so. started out with just wanting to model a car, because i hadn't really seriously tried it before, and then turned into a pet project to goof off with on occasion. anyhow, i thought some might enjoy it a bit, since it's mostly done in jest and just for fun :)

comments and crits are welcome, as well as any ideas for future mutations :beer:

the original model: the new cooper mini S

12 December 2002, 08:22 PM
and then, the first mutation, the ghetto-fabulous low-riding mini:

12 December 2002, 08:22 PM
and the second mutation (just started and finished today) the monster truck, car crushing mini:

(ps - sorry for this being so many images, i tried to compress em enough so they wern't so bad and then hosted em on my own server, so hope its ok :)

12 December 2002, 08:32 PM
very nice models!

the low-rider mini kicks ass.

actully they're all awesome concepts but i dont like the checkers one really.

12 December 2002, 08:42 PM
Great work.
I like the Monster-Mini the best of em all... what I'd do to own one of those!!! Teach those who cut me off a lesson they'd never forget! :D

You should submit the lowrider into the Brazil gallery at splutterfish's website.


12 December 2002, 10:06 PM
the monster truck version is my choice too
the color is superb
:buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

12 December 2002, 10:54 PM
this is complete until you get the super stretch limosine on this list....still kick ass:thumbsup:

Can I see the a close up on the euro tail lights of the monster truck. I would like to look at the detail

12 December 2002, 11:01 PM
Holy crap...I love the 4x4 many mutations are you going to do?:thumbsup: :applause: :surprised

12 December 2002, 12:45 AM
I love the 4x4 Im in love, are these going to be going up at, looks good enough.

12 December 2002, 12:53 AM
looking cool, hey the low-rider needs some nice neon lights underneath, like the ones in the Fast & the Furious ;) Oh & a Dragster version as well please!


12 December 2002, 01:02 AM
hey, glad you guys like em :beer:

trion-5: i like the limo idea, might have to give that a try sometime soon :thumbsup: and i'll try to render a shot of the lights out for ya tomorrow if i can :)

kieronh: ya i agree about the neon. i havn't messed with that lowrider one for a while, but perhaps i'll open it up again and add some more *bling* to it

and now, a little update to the monster truck version. added some lights on the roll bar, some exhaust pipes under the doors and a simple interior (dressed in red velvet of course)

edit: oh and btw, if anyone is interested, i've got an avi on my site (link in my sig) of the low rider version jumping around and doing some 3-wheel action. its in the misc image section of tha gallery, although i'm not going to post a direct link, cause i dunno if my site can take the beating :hmm:


12 December 2002, 02:48 AM
:xtreme: the 4x4 is sweet_me want one!

12 December 2002, 02:50 AM
Oh man that 4x4 is awesome. just one small crit. the reflections on the hood look a little muddy, like its reflecting a building or something when it is in a studio environment.

other than that its a fabulous concept.... i'm jealous


12 December 2002, 03:51 AM
very impressive! :)

12 December 2002, 07:15 AM
wow, the 4x4 one kicks ass :D

btw, the original pic of the mini cooper... it looks like the rims seem a bit too flat.. or are they suppose to be like that on this car??

12 December 2002, 07:37 AM
very nice, even though i'm a fR guy.... especially like the license plate...

good work,

12 December 2002, 10:04 AM
The 4x4 looks like a very cool toy. I'd love to have a remote controlled MiniCooper that looks like that...

But if you tweak the camera's FOV does it look more like a full sized truck?

12 December 2002, 03:33 PM
here's a quick render of the taillight for trion-5 (no anti-alising though) its just a faceted chrome material

and a lower shot of the truck from a rear angle for paultheplumber. as you can see, most of the other renderings were from high angles so i wouldn't have to build any background. and now u can see the hdri map in the background that is being used for reflections. this answers AshmisT's comment, to the hood reflections, as they are just a reflected hdri map in the background, cause i think it looks cool :cool:

12 December 2002, 05:09 PM
Luvverly mate, looks real nice, though the hrdi map, you should have a hi quality one composited in the render and a low quality one for your light solution. Still, its amazing modeling and rendering. You get 5 stars from me.:bounce:

12 December 2002, 05:11 PM
Nice work Capn_Panic! I really like how you tried a variety of forms/colors based off the central theme. I'm in K.C. as well. We'll have to meet some time. Keep up the quality work.

12 December 2002, 05:45 PM
Wow! Good Work!:thumbsup:

you are an fanatic of the mini :bounce:

and good continuation! :D

12 December 2002, 10:23 PM
Whoa, that's one slimy, cool looking mini 4x4! I bet it would look really silly driving around in it though?

12 December 2002, 10:29 PM
THe 4x4 looks great...cept. On your 4 link suspension components you need some hyme joints or some johny joints. the way it is right now, your suspension looks solid.

Nice work!

12 December 2002, 10:35 PM
artistx: do you go to any of the KCAGA ( meetings? i usually attend them, so feel free to come and see the show and chat a bit. although i don't think i'll be at the december meeting, due to holiday stuff, i'll probably be at the january one :)

now, one more update, with some detail shots:

12 December 2002, 06:39 PM
Very nice work! Your demo reel kicks too!

You should take a picture of some cars parked along the street with an empty parking space and but the 4x4 there. Or even the lowrider

Reeeeally nice work, keep it up!

Tom "Pixelhazard"

12 December 2002, 07:11 PM
Did you use NURBS or Poly modeling for thiese Kickass models?:bounce:

12 December 2002, 07:18 PM
Great concept Capn_Panic and nice render.
I would like to drive one like that :)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 07:53 PM
looks great, but it needs an environment. A lot of your pics are missing as well (and your site is down)

I just checked again and your pics are up. The materials on the low-rider and the 4x4 are top-notch. Very nice! Web page still not responding.

12 December 2002, 07:59 PM
I love your high-detaled modelling!!!
Brilliant work! :thumbsup: :lightbulb

12 December 2002, 08:02 PM
i like them all, but the 4x4 just kicks ass. great work.:applause: :bounce: :thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 08:06 PM
hey guys, glad everyone likes the monster mini :)

McSpirit: it was done mostly with spline cages & surface tools along with a little poly modeling (the new bits)

Pixelhazard: yeah thats next on my list...gotta remember to bring my camera to work with me to take some pics (as its dark by the time i get home every day) and then expect to see a composited pic soon :)

yeah sorry about the pics guys, look slike my $5/month hosting can't take teh hammering from cgtalk hehe...i'll see what i can doo, mebbe upload a few pics to the cgtalk servers to offset it a bit :) should be working here soon i hope

12 December 2002, 08:11 PM
ok, heres the monster again, with some new treads on the tires

12 December 2002, 08:28 PM
Can you give us some wheelbase angle... I mean the car standing on the rock on one front wheel... think it'll be look more agressive :buttrock:

The Magic Pen
12 December 2002, 08:33 PM
rockin !! :buttrock:

12 December 2002, 09:05 PM
hahahahh.... the ghetto fab one is funny sheet man. Thought I was back in Phoenix again ;)

12 December 2002, 09:17 PM
Damn the 4x4 rooooox! :beer: :buttrock: :buttrock: :applause: :thumbsup: :buttrock: :buttrock: :beer:

12 December 2002, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by DivideByZero
Great work.
I like the Monster-Mini the best of em all... what I'd do to own one of those!!! Teach those who cut me off a lesson they'd never forget! :D

You should submit the lowrider into the Brazil gallery at splutterfish's website.


It already is, it's been there for like 3 months, and the avi too

12 December 2002, 09:52 PM
well the images should all be back now, much thanks to Soeren_Nielson in the cgtalk irc channel for hosting them now :beer:

another render, with simple stand-in ground and rock, from another angle :)

12 December 2002, 10:07 PM
I love this type of art!!!!!!

12 December 2002, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Capn_Panic
ok, heres the monster again, with some new treads on the tires

They wouldn't reach so near to the hob-cap (thats what they're called, right? /me is spanish, sry!). I don't think this baby can go 2-wheeling so nearer the center is where a Pirelli or Firestone logo and tyre model text would go, not more tread :wip:

Carl :beer:

12 December 2002, 11:58 PM
yeah carl, i think you are right...looking at some pics of actual monster trucks, the hub is generally alot smaller, which would make for a larger sidewall...perhaps tomorrow i'll poke at it some more :) i can't say i was really going for acuracy in the first place though, as anyone who knows anything about monster truck suspension or drive train (not me) can tell from the guesswork i did on the under carriage :rolleyes:

12 December 2002, 12:12 AM
Do not worry about the suspension. I would have just placed random poles too!
Btw, I like how you advertise both Brazil and MAX (more subtle) on your vehicles. You must really like both plug and software! I was reasearching into HDRI a while ago but I gotta make a car to try it out first...
First things last :surprised, can you show us a wire of the Monster Truck and the Lowrider perhaps? Also, how about some render stats (time & sampling setting)? :bounce:

Carl :beer:

12 December 2002, 12:23 AM
sweet! that low rider looks like the El Cmino I got! put some ground effects, some tireflys, a glowin' antenna, light=up fluid nozzles, and some extended axles. that would be PIMPIN' :buttrock: :twisted: :xtreme: :insane:

Aaron Moore
12 December 2002, 01:36 AM
can you give me insight into the car paint material? I like that multi color look. Is it procedual?

12 December 2002, 01:39 AM
Cool cars! I would love to see a stretch limo version, a pro-street drag racer and a convertible. Excellent work! Keep it up :xtreme:

12 December 2002, 02:12 AM
carl: yeah i can post a wireframe of both vehicles tomorrow as well as check what my settings are (files are on my workstation at work, as thats the only place i have brazil)

aaron moore: the carpaint material is actually a shader that comes with brazil. it's a light direction/view-dependant shader that also has little flakes (to simulate metalic paints) which is used on both the low rider and the monster truck

12 December 2002, 03:21 AM
Very cool, I love these cars. :thumbsup: Keepost more

12 December 2002, 03:35 AM
Yo captain!

Send your piece to Bavaria Motor Works, pronto! I'm sure they will love it enough to come up with an assembly line for the 4x4.

Fantastic work man!

12 December 2002, 05:35 AM
stunning work capn:thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 06:28 AM
man, that is really stylish.....
The mini is one of my fav cars tooo!!!!!
this rockss:applause:

12 December 2002, 04:29 PM
and a couple of wireframe shots:

12 December 2002, 05:10 PM
Top-notch, d00d! Are the treads modelled or displacement mapped, btw?

Carl :beer:

12 December 2002, 05:14 PM
the treads are modeled ala thomas suurland's method as used on his new beetle. just model a small section and make an array of it, join those together and bend the long strip into a donut shape and weld the ends....voila! instant tire ;) plus a little finesse with edit poly and a ffd modifier to add a little squash on the bottom of the tires.

12 December 2002, 06:45 PM
Capn_Panic - I had no idea they had a group going in K.C. . I'll definitely try to attend those meetings. Hopefully, I haven't missed the December one. I leave before Jan. 2nd, so I may not make next month's meeting. Here is my contact info.

The gallery is slim right now, but I should have some polished work up by next Friday. Let me know what you think. It looks like you're a Max guy, but if you use Maya or XSI I think you'll find the tutorial page useful.

12 December 2002, 10:22 AM
I'd like to have somethink like your 4x4 mini. It'd be nice to see also streamlined mini (not low-rider, but extremely smooth one), WRC mini, Mad Max-style mini, Hot-rod mini...

12 December 2002, 10:35 AM
definitely one of the best car modeling i've ever seen ! way to go !!!:thumbsup: :buttrock: :airguitar :D

12 December 2002, 05:16 AM
I don't usually reply just to inflate someone's ego but, these rides are SICK! very SICK!! I want one!:airguitar

12 December 2002, 08:42 PM
ok and one more. just a quick model for fun. hope everyone likes it :)

12 December 2002, 09:32 PM
Hahaha ! Absolutely fantastic !! I love the limo-mini !!
Excellent work, Capn panic !!


12 December 2002, 09:36 PM I have to say any more....:surprised :thumbsup: :wavey:

12 December 2002, 11:16 PM
D00d! You are just TOO much! I'm ROFLMFAO here! In Spain, tuning (car modding) is a very big thing but this just beats the crap out of it!
Only crit is the colour, I think you should go with an extremely glossy white, add some of those lamps in between each section and probably make one of those plane-like tail fins and let it show :)

Carl :beer:

EDIT: Oh, I see the lights now! man, how do these damn things corner? I just can't figure it out....

12 December 2002, 11:16 PM
I hate car models and such!! But I have to say I like your style and vehicles, even though I like character modelling better. I think these cars look so good and were really well done. I wish I could drive them around in real life. Great work!!!

:applause: :applause: :applause:

12 December 2002, 11:38 PM
oh man! i hate car models...but i love these. awesome stuff man.

i was thinkin a toonish version would be awesome. only the body would be normal with some toony outrageously large weapons. some sweet modifications too!

great work! :thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 03:47 PM
hey thanks guys, glad you like it, despite an overwhelming hatred for car models ;) i'll see if i can work up some characters soon to offset my reputation as a car guy :beer:

12 December 2002, 07:19 PM
Love it, what I was missing out ont, dang it.

great way to mess with one model in different combinations.

Looks like fun, I want one of them off road buggy type.

great stuff.

12 December 2002, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by Capn_Panic

it was done mostly with spline cages & surface tools along with a little poly modeling (the new bits)

Hey Capn_Panic. Excellent images! :applause: :applause: :applause:

Could you give little explanation about the surface tools with splines?

12 December 2002, 12:06 AM
These are cool! :applause:
:bounce: more mutations!!!! :bounce:

12 December 2002, 12:09 AM
you could for example.. do a sort of like a trailer at the back... like the back side of the mini sorta..
I actually seen one of these on the road! LOLled like hell :applause:

ADD: if you wanna make one of these yourself out of an unused mini.. look here: :thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 03:13 AM
Iragno: well the whole car was origianlly modeled with splines, formed into cages (making 3- or 4-sided shapes) and then a surface modifier applied, which forms patches over the cage. i don't have any good examples handy, so perhaps a google search (although i just tried one and it turned up two tuts, neither of which i thought was very good) would find some more examples. perhaps the max help fiels could help a bit. and if not, and there is some interest, perhaps i could work a tut up myself (i'ev been meaning to put a tut section on my web site anyway ;) so if anyone has interest in tutorials on ANY aspect of the cars, specifically or generally, then let me know and perhaps i can get myself in gear to work some tuts up :beer:

DeathCarrot: now that is pretty sweet, but check out this guys project:

12 December 2002, 04:47 AM
Oh man, I would love a tutorial. :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

I've been trying to model (max 5) a car using various techniques and even though I've made good progress, I'm still at a stand-still.

Thanks in advance :thumbsup:

12 December 2002, 01:47 PM
Hey, I like'm, really, nothing to comment but the minor bump next to the headlights, on the hood there's a little bump... and I'd love to see the strech in white or black, the brownish grey doesn't please my eye that much see...

12 December 2002, 03:12 PM
somehow i can't find my reply again. i guess its just being deleted again. My question was, how do you apply the shader so that it looks like the paint look so great that there has a silver layer underneath?

12 December 2002, 04:10 PM
iragno: cool, ok i'll try to work something up here pretty soon :)

derbyqsalno: yeah there are a few ripples around the headlights, which are mainly a result of using the surface tools there. if i redid the hood again now, i would just use poly modeling or a combination of the two modeling types to avoid those ripples. that is also teh main reason why i pretty much just use poly modeling now, those little quirks in surface tools would drive me crazy

HapZungLam: all the car paint materials (except the yellow one) are the Brazil carp paint shader. the shader is basically a light/view angle-dependant shader that blends between two colors (like green and yellow on the monster truck) and then also has little procedural flakes in it, for that metalic look. :)

12 December 2002, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by Capn_Panic

derbyqsalno: yeah there are a few ripples around the headlights, which are mainly a result of using the surface tools there. if i redid the hood again now, i would just use poly modeling or a combination of the two modeling types to avoid those ripples. that is also teh main reason why i pretty much just use poly modeling now, those little quirks in surface tools would drive me crazy

I'm a little confused. Are you saying that if you had to re-model the mini, you'd not use Surface Tools and instead use polymodeling?

By polymodeling I'm assuming the techniques that are used in Right?

12 December 2002, 10:25 PM
iragno: that's pretty much right. in the time since i made the original mini model (probably about 9 months now) i've grown rather fond of poly modeling, ie starting with a box or other basic shape, then converting it to editable poly and then pulling/puching/adding verts etc until it is the desired shape, and then meshsmoothing the whole thing. surface tools are good in some cases, but tend to be a bit more tedious to set up and are limited in a few ways, which can be annoying (like pretty much any case where u need a hole in a surface).

but, yeah it's pretty close to the video that jt has on trinisica of him building the torso. i just find it much faster to model that way :)

01 January 2003, 09:09 PM
Thats great, i own a mini and I would love to mod it out as a 4x4. I was poking around on your site, and I was amazed. Great work! My favorite is the red Spaceship, sooo sweet




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