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09 September 2005, 01:16 PM
Stepan Grakov is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: That's all, folks (

09 September 2005, 01:45 PM
Good luck friend!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 03:11 PM
Good luck!!! I hope you'll be the best ;)!

09 September 2005, 03:28 PM (

This is rought concept image of my idea.
I think that sport can be very spectacular.
And extreme sport (snowboarding in my case) can be even more spectacular.
And some fantasy on "extreme theme in future" will be cool I think. When I say "future" I mean some interesting gadgets like turbines on the board, robots as cafe's personnel etc.

Story is about a guy who decided to rail some cafe tables and get smth to drinnk :)

Of course, there will be other characters (humans and robots) and different stuff here. And as the challenge ends in december I guess snow will be fine for it.

09 September 2005, 04:21 PM
Yes Stepan !
I was thinking of your great work in M & S !
I was woondering myself if we had the honour to see u in this challenge !
You are there ! Cool !
Nice concept sketch !
some ZB stuff this time ?

09 September 2005, 04:45 PM
hey, thanks for so kind words, mate! glad to see you again too :thumbsup:

sure, zbrushin' is upcoming for sure :) but scene and rendering will be in 3ds MAX-vray.

09 September 2005, 10:46 PM
Great to see you here Stepan... for sure, snowwboarding as xtrem sport is a really good choice.

Not surely very original... but I'm sure that this originality comes with your incredible style.

I'm just curious to discover how you think to present your piece.

Lot of interest to follow this thread man... keep it up and best wishes :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 04:56 AM
Lemog - thanks, you're right, I'll try to make it original with style, it won't be "just a snowboarder", it will be more interesting :) and spectacular, of course.

I want to to some toon-style image, but with many details and realistic colors and textures.

09 September 2005, 05:03 AM
Cool idea, perhaps you can add more actiont o the frame by having him grabing on to the cup (semi spilling/splashing)? Cool idea, nonetheless

09 September 2005, 05:50 AM
yes, thank you, I thought about it - but not decided if he'll grab the drink or can't reach it :bounce:

the "concept" just about idea and all details and environment are in my mind now - I can't draw good :)

09 September 2005, 06:35 AM
Stepan my friend nice to c u join again... ur MnS enrty was really cool... i'll surely b waiting for some spectacular thing this time too!!... i love snow boarding tho there are no snow in my country, but im verymuch into skateboarding (close ay)... and yeah these xtreme sports cound be really spectacular IMO... lessi what u show us this time... wish u all the best buddy :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 09:33 AM
greetings, my friend :) thank you for support, skate is great (I ride skate several years ago) too, agree with you.

09 September 2005, 06:19 PM (

Here is just some thougts about my snowboard - it's future one (or from parallel world, remember?)

Many improvments will be made (it's just some parts I plan to do). And in final it won't be ink'n'painted.

09 September 2005, 06:32 PM
Cool design, many details!!! Keep going!

09 September 2005, 06:51 PM
Great start.:)

Design of a board original. How you plan to decorate? Graffity? Chrome?

От твоей работы аж зиму захотелось. Покататься на лыжах, коньках. Правда знаю как в Сочи со снегом, но всё равно.

09 September 2005, 04:43 AM

Ultemate - I think both - chrome parts on graffiti board

со снегом тут зимой ок - до гор от моего дома ехать час-полтора, поэтому и сам начал такую тему делать :)

09 September 2005, 04:49 AM
the bored looks mad. hurry up and get to the modelling part heh!

09 September 2005, 04:50 AM
yeah i agree very futuristic .. quiet spectacular actually.. looking forward to seeing some models..

09 September 2005, 05:03 AM
guys, it IS the model :) just with ink'n'pain shader. more details and real shaders-textures upcoming

thank u

09 September 2005, 05:57 AM
I like the design of your board mate :thumbsup: perhaps with a little more thickness ? but it's anyway really cool...

09 September 2005, 06:10 AM
Excellent design ! :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:04 AM
Lemog, gpepper, glad you like it :)

yes, more thickness will be better, thanks. now working on some details so update will be later today.

09 September 2005, 07:44 AM
WoW!, Great Design/Model, keep going!, awesome stuff mate! :applause: , oh and one question, its probably silly, but where can I learn to make Chrome Materials in 3Ds max ?, thanks.

But, yeah Excellent design, Good luck to you!:thumbsup:

- Cheers,
- Dave

09 September 2005, 08:02 AM
very cool design indeed!
one crit though, the two rockets should be able to go forwards and backwards, they are mounted on, not turnable. And since they are not symetrical designed i would assume it's a one way board. And i'm sure with hooverboards people would still wanna ride Goofy/Regular.
Just a very very small crit that doesn't really effect the scene, but i just wanted to mention it :p

09 September 2005, 08:08 AM
GFXerDave - thank you! about chrome - try this link ( )

simon.wt - oh, sure, thanks, I'll fix that :) or the should be placed in center..we'll see what can be done

09 September 2005, 08:56 AM (

Just testing some colors and tweaked couple of details..still working on main concept...still very much to do :) that's cool

09 September 2005, 08:59 AM
damn! really nice materials/shaders, very very cool design, where can i buy one ?

09 September 2005, 09:32 AM
I'm okay... it's very beautiful :thumbsup: realistic but imaginative... :buttrock:

09 September 2005, 11:09 AM
damn! really nice materials/shaders, very very cool design, where can i buy one ?
simon.wt - wait until it done and I'll send you one for free :)
I'm okay... it's very beautiful :thumbsup: realistic but imaginative...

Lemog - yes, that's my point, I'll try to do it more realistic with small details. And some details still have temp material.

thank you, guys!

09 September 2005, 06:34 PM (

added some flying and safety details..please, DON'T TRY THIS AT HOME :)

Next I'll replace those white cylinders with fuel system. And fix some details too.

09 September 2005, 06:54 PM
very nice design.cheers.:bounce:

09 September 2005, 07:00 PM
Very interesting design. You work detailistic. Looking forward to see the whole.

09 September 2005, 09:02 AM
Hi. Already hard at work Stepan :D Lookin really neat so far.

09 September 2005, 09:33 AM
Very cool idea and the board is amazing ! Very nice model !

09 September 2005, 09:38 AM
Don't forget to add a place to stand:) Great concept so far. Hard to tell from this angle, but it might be a bit to least for todays materials! :thumbsup:

Tee Double U
09 September 2005, 09:48 AM
Nice board,, great details

09 September 2005, 10:36 AM
Hi Gregory ! Thank you

jddog, Tee Double U - hope you'll like the rest :)

Nichod - yes, you're right, I'll do special bindings for sure...and about it's hight..I think it's because of its angle, but I'll check it once more, thank you!

09 September 2005, 11:45 AM
awesome detail im locing this ... excellent work!

09 September 2005, 03:56 PM
i wish i had that cool...:thumbsup: keep it up!

09 September 2005, 05:02 PM
The skate concept is very good. all.
But your camera donґt show it very good.
Try change the orientation. See ya
Good Luck.

09 September 2005, 05:09 PM
Please post a link to the online shop where such boards can be buyed, I'd like one! :D

09 September 2005, 06:53 AM
3rd user, romelalgo, coCoKNIght - glad you like it, more details soon :)

I'll change camera view for sure


09 September 2005, 07:55 AM
NIce board, i think it rocks so far.Keep going;)

09 September 2005, 08:47 AM
more details soon :)
I hope :wip: :wip: :wip:

09 September 2005, 06:27 AM (

Added fuel systems and made side construction a bit stronger. I don't think that board is finished (some details will be improved for sure, more texture work and change some copied details), but now I want to go futher and work on bindings and boots. I plan to return to board after that. Or after I model a-girl-to-ride-it :)

09 September 2005, 02:10 PM
Cool design!!! Light & materials are also very cool!

09 September 2005, 02:23 PM
I agree excellent work on the board design it would be a shame if you stick with the camera angle in your concept sketch.

great work...

09 September 2005, 02:27 PM
Good model, is very detailed.

09 September 2005, 02:51 PM
Great work on the hoverboard ! a lot of detail ! :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 03:09 PM
BobbEr, LimeyD, denverbz, gpepper - thanks a lot!

Camera angle will be very different in final and the board will be clearly seen :deal:

09 September 2005, 05:32 PM (

Ok, here it is. This is only about way for possible camera view (not 100% complete!), in final there will be cafe and mountains and rail and many more on the background and everywhere :) And biped will be replaced by girl.

Now I started to model environment so I could decide where exact will be camera and girl and other things.

09 September 2005, 08:16 PM
good progress man .Now I can feel it more than before .:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 04:41 AM
Thank you, I'm thinking of couple different backgrounds now..need to decide.. :)

09 September 2005, 05:25 AM
Nice framing :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:32 AM
Lemog - :)

Now I'm deciding about 2 major things - what will be better:

1. Environment is "usual" and board and rider are only with some gadgets etc
2. Environment is "unusual" - everything is ========^^

I think #1 will be more other characters in the scene will be impressed with what they see (not everybody even understand what's that :bounce: ).

With #2 the board and rider will look just like usual thing...

09 September 2005, 06:35 AM
First is better... more visual and concept contrast :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:06 AM
yes, I thought about it too - and to make the contrast stronger I plan to make a "hunter's stop" for the scene - I mean a place in deep forest where hunters are gathering after a long day...and they will be surprised with what they'll see before the supper :eek: :

- "it's a plane!"..
- "no, it's ufo!",
- "no, it's a crazy deer, I heard about it from other village hunter!"
- "heeelp, it took our eat!!!"
- "I'm gonna shoot it now, stay away!"
- "but what's that exactly, so fast and noisy?"

09 September 2005, 07:17 AM
Прикольно для начала, продолжай))

09 September 2005, 08:03 AM
Why not... good idea too... in a deep forest... :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:14 AM
anty - yes, and a lot to do :)

Lemog - thanks, I think it will be more specular :) but..I need to think about it some more..I think I'll start to model a rider now (cause I know the pose) and meanwhile will think about scene.

09 September 2005, 08:57 AM
First, адназначна. :) :scream:

Waiting for first rider screens.:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:58 AM
Nice concept and good model. You are adding lot of details and that makes it look awesome.
Cant wait to see the rider, waiting for update dude:bounce: :bounce:

09 September 2005, 03:59 PM
ok, I'll start with the pants - you'll see'em soon :)

09 September 2005, 04:59 PM
wow!love the pose a lot.:thumbsup:
keep going.

09 September 2005, 09:56 AM
Ого чувак! ну ты дал - красота, молодец.
Аж мне захотелось поучаствовать идея есть времени почти нет! 8(

Perevod karakul:

Ogo chuvak! nu ti dal - krasota, molodec.
Aj mne zahotelos pouchstvovat ideye est vremeni net! 8(

09 September 2005, 10:03 AM
xric7 - I will, thanks for support

sijen - sorry, can't see your comments :)

одни каракули

09 September 2005, 03:38 PM
First is better... more visual and concept contrast
yep I have to be agree with Lemog, especially for the contrats between both...

09 September 2005, 05:25 PM
sijen - :beer:

jddog - thanks a lot for suggestion :beer:

09 September 2005, 04:14 PM
Good job, waiting for update!:beer: :arteest:

09 September 2005, 04:44 PM
excelent idea and an amazing composition

very dynamic and spectacular:buttrock:

09 September 2005, 07:24 PM
What about rider? He will be the man or the woman?

Waiting for update too! :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:24 AM
thanks to all :)

Ultemate - I'll try to make a girl with nice fugure :) and I have another idea to make the whole scene more interesting but I need to work some time on it before I can tell :deal:

Max 234666 cccp
09 September 2005, 07:51 AM
Beauttiful job:thumbsup:

Anton Valiev
09 September 2005, 10:37 AM
Ou, i like your board, it is well looked. I hope, your girl will be with big boobs :D

09 September 2005, 11:11 AM
Ultemate - I'll try to make a girl with nice fugure :) and I have another idea to make the whole scene more interesting but I need to work some time on it before I can tell :deal:

Wow, u rouse my interest. I impatiently wait for update... :bounce:

09 September 2005, 01:00 PM (

Today I was working on trees for scene - still need to refine shapes and add snow on branches, of course.

Technology of creation such trees is very simple - drow a mask, create a plane with that mask on opacity channel and copy it several times :)

But I think it looks good enought for background for my scene. Of course there will be much more trees! And they will be show from another angle.

p.s. that "dawn sky" is just for test :) but maybe all action will took place in the evening - play of lights from fire on riders b... I mean face :)can add some specularity :)

09 September 2005, 02:52 PM (


09 September 2005, 03:27 PM
Nice trees :)! Waiting for character update! ;)

09 September 2005, 03:31 PM
Your work on the board was great. Seeing your trees now it seems you put the same effort to your background :thumbsup:


09 September 2005, 04:10 PM
BobbEr, daWinky - :beer:

I'm planning now the scene, update it later today, it will be easier to work on rider after that (for me) :)

09 September 2005, 04:23 PM (

Here is a rought scene plan. It's a Hunter's Stop in deep forest on the far-far mountains. Hunters are coming here in the season after long day, they are hungry (and some angry). You'll see later how do I plan to use this for reaching the point of the challenge.

09 September 2005, 04:31 PM
Your tree is beautiful And you have found a nice technic to model some quickly. But I think there is an inconvenient, foliage of the branchs in the foreground is too regular ; it is obvious on branchs extremity. However, it is not really important if these trees are made for the background.

09 September 2005, 05:07 PM
Yes, Sophie, I agree with your corrections, but as you said "they're made for background" - trees will be in the semi-dark far from camera view.

Thank you for you comment :)

09 September 2005, 05:48 PM
man! your tree is nice! and it seem your zbrush scale has level up! cann't wait to see more

09 September 2005, 06:23 PM
very specific serounding for this sport
good idea:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:35 PM
Nice concept!:thumbsup: I think 3d will be cool! :)

09 September 2005, 08:13 PM
At the first time I see these trees... I think too that will be a little "just" and too synthetic... but effectively, if it's only for the background, far and dark... effect will be surely very good... well mate, the following pliz :scream: :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:14 AM
Monsit, Mark, Lemog, Roman, my friends, :beer:

But the Idea is changed again - now it'll be really more interesting and breath-taking :bounce: The scene will take place higher than trees, above the endless forest :) the girl rider will be doing the trick at that high, stay close :) And there will be interesting objects in the forest and on the trees and the Mountain, of course. And maybe Sunrise :)

09 September 2005, 06:40 AM
And maybe Sunrise :)May be, sunSET?
No matter how, when or why - just do it! I trust you, my friend!:)

09 September 2005, 02:49 PM (

I need some branches for close-up..and I din't find anything better then model it by hands :)

09 September 2005, 05:56 PM (

Here is the final idea (I hope). Girl-rider will fly just above tree tops at night forest...but why? Maybe she's afraid? But what? Or hunting?

You'll see it in final, I want it to be a surprise.

09 September 2005, 06:17 PM
Amazing tree - and that updated concept rocks. Great sense of motion:thumbsup:
Can't believe how I could have missed this until now... will follow for sure!

Anton Valiev
09 September 2005, 07:23 PM
Cool... dust is fantastish.... he-he.
Why trees ? Where Megapolis, and many robots? :D

09 September 2005, 07:37 PM
Gunilla - glad you like it :)

Anton Valiev - robots are not the only that can be spectacular and I'll try to prove it :)

09 September 2005, 09:30 PM
I love surprises:bounce: . And the close-up of the trees looks very good!


09 September 2005, 05:28 PM
Простите, Степан, не сочтите за грубость в ответ на Вашу критику, но ха-ха из вашего скетча тоже ничего не понятно. Что самое смешное, я вам могу ответить вашими же словами ну а я значит вторым буду кто ничего не понял :) всмысле я понял что кто-то куда-то несется и сижу жду апдейтов :)

Я еще раз настоятельно прошу не принимать мои слова за грубость или месть, мое мнение объективно. Из ваших пояснений относительно задумки все вполне понятно.

Извините, если я Вас обидел, Степан.

Всего наилучшего и удачи.

09 September 2005, 05:34 PM
Товарищ Сухов! Какие могут быть обиды в wip'ах? Тем более от соотечественников? ТЕм более замечание вполне справедливое. Из моих "скетчей" финальную идею понимаю только я сам :rolleyes: а в последнем "скетче" я самое главное-то и не показал, хочу сюрприз сделать.

п.с. я и не из обидчевых вообщем-то :)
п.п.с. и вообще давайте на "ты" :beer:

Thanks a lot for your visit.

09 September 2005, 05:38 PM
На "та" так на "ты".

Как там погода у вас (тебя) в Сочи?

09 September 2005, 05:52 PM
да ужас какой-то для конца сентября - сегодня целый день в тени +30, на солнце +42 :eek:

хорошо я под кондиционером сижу, в помещении все ок.

а у вас чего там происходит?

09 September 2005, 07:53 PM
Hi, My impression is that the girl is falling. Maybe a more perspective view could improve your scene, just an idea. Good work.

09 September 2005, 04:44 AM
THank you , I'll change that :) and I just started to work on girl, I'll post some updates soon.

09 September 2005, 09:45 AM (

Just started to work on girl's main forms and pose. Very rought model and no wear details or textures.

Very much to work on.

And I'll work on perspective too.

09 September 2005, 10:00 AM
Tons of good luck my dear friend

09 September 2005, 12:37 AM
Nice idea

Good luck

09 September 2005, 08:57 AM (

Some more work on main forms and possible colors

09 September 2005, 11:09 AM (

Experiments with fabrics..what do you think about this?

09 September 2005, 11:38 AM
ilusiondigital, Ahmed Hosny - thank you!

and I added some stars to the board too, looks better with think kind of girl wear :)

Max 234666 cccp
09 September 2005, 12:09 PM
Прикольные расцветки , ты я смотрю все такое яркое любиш :) - Город мечты тоже был - я рким и праздничным :)

09 September 2005, 12:11 PM
hehe, crazy outfit, too crazy for me to be true, but the fabric renders great! :)

09 September 2005, 12:18 PM
Max 234666 cccp, coCoKNIght - :) Glad you like it, yes, I love some bright colors and I have a surprise about the final mean of all this, remember? I mean that so bright and crazy colors will be ok for that (I hope) :)

09 September 2005, 01:21 PM (

Some more mesh tweaking, specular and bump maps update.

09 September 2005, 02:08 PM
Hey dude I am sorry I really forgot about your thread:wise: , you are doing a great job, colours are looking great, keep it up dude:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 04:28 PM
madshooter - thanks for such comments, dude :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:13 PM
wow this is just akarnaval:bounce:
but get the cup back :D

09 September 2005, 05:50 PM
i really like it,except that kinda tree:thumbsup: it's for Snowboard images

09 September 2005, 06:01 PM
Hello (o)ne, I've just discovered your thread now :( and what a surprise... you work is very imaginative, almost magical... good luck.

09 September 2005, 08:13 PM
Uuhhh:eek: ! I'm already surprised of these clothes. And you really think they will fit in your final concept? Perhaps some early seasons greetings...Ok., as I said before, I love surprises - so I'm looking forward to it.:)


09 September 2005, 05:09 AM
Sleng - :) what's cap back? рюкзак?

3rd user - this trees are for test only, thanks :)

claudio_jordao - don't be so sad, I have a lot of things to do, hope it will be interesting for you :)

daWinky - well, I think I can't hold all info about it till the end of the challenge, but I'll try :) You will understand soon what's my point. But I need to do some stuff for it. So, thank you and hope to see you again here :)

09 September 2005, 06:35 AM
Sincerly, these clothes make me think of those of the girl of the SantaClaus... or a kind of funny funky style...
...that risks to increase the funny side and decrease the spectacular effect, no ?
I waiting for more :wip:

09 September 2005, 07:19 AM
Lemog, the spectacular effect I plan is not only about girl or'll see, thanks a lot for you interest :)

09 September 2005, 07:34 AM
I start to know you a little, after the previous challenge, then, I'm still sure you will astonish us once again :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 10:49 AM
I'll try to justify your waitings :)

09 September 2005, 10:52 AM
:scream: hahahahahahaha


09 September 2005, 10:54 AM
good luck :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 11:59 AM
Nice texturing, waiting for update :)!

09 September 2005, 05:18 AM
Privet, (o)ne!

Jelayu uda4i tebe v konkurse, poka polu4aetsia vse vpolne prili4no! :thumbsup: Osobenno doska ponravilas :) Jdu update'ov :)

09 September 2005, 09:11 AM
Niluferrr, BobbEr, D1tus - :)

Now I'm refining girl's proportions and working on scene background.

09 September 2005, 04:10 PM
да ужас какой-то для конца сентября - сегодня целый день в тени +30, на солнце +42 :eek:

хорошо я под кондиционером сижу, в помещении все ок.

а у вас чего там происходит?

Хорошо тебе, блин. А унас тут 10 градусов на солнышке, слякоть и вообще все гадко и серо. Я в Ярославле живу.

Видел твой последний апдейт. Слушай, на мой взгляд у девушки слишком пестрая одежда, она как бы скрадывает объем. И на счет правильности модели с анатомической точки зрения я тоже не уверен. На мой взгляд торс слишком длинный, а грудь маленькая. Остальное вроде бы впорядке.


09 September 2005, 05:15 PM
Comrade, your words are telling me that I'm on a right way now - I working on anatomy (it's really strange) and do girly forms more visible (you know what I mean :twisted: ) and making more action-pose too.

Thanks for suggestions!

Good luck to you too :)

Я раньше в Красноярске жил, так что твоя ситауция очень знакома :)

09 September 2005, 07:21 AM
:scream: a viva Lasvegas style here... like it !

09 September 2005, 07:30 AM
More visible forms? Waiting for updates. :scream:

09 September 2005, 04:26 PM
Comrade, your words are telling me that I'm on a right way now - I working on anatomy (it's really strange) and do girly forms more visible (you know what I mean :twisted: ) and making more action-pose too.

Thanks for suggestions!

Good luck to you too :)

Я раньше в Красноярске жил, так что твоя ситауция очень знакома :)

Maybe I should email you my girl model to let you try all the action poses you want? Шучу.
And why is it strange to work on anatomy?

В Краснояре? Небывал.

09 September 2005, 05:00 PM
I like your proposal :), I mean that anatomy is strange! :)

09 September 2005, 05:05 PM (

Now she looks better I guess..but I still need to spend more time on here forms :)

Max 234666 cccp
09 September 2005, 06:05 PM
На мой взгляд тоже ярко очень , но это на мой - я тип мрачный, робототанкоделатель - сам знаеш :) А ты город будещ делать?

09 September 2005, 06:12 PM
дак я цвета и не менял - только формы (и все вообще яркое у меня будет :) точнее красочное)

город..зачем город? у меня лес по плану :)

the scene will take place after dark :) in the forest...

09 September 2005, 06:18 PM
Hi (o)ne. Pose very dynamic, i liked also the colors used, good work. :thumbsup:

Max 234666 cccp
09 September 2005, 06:23 PM
"дак я цвета и не менял - только формы (и все вообще яркое у меня будет :) точнее красочно&#1077"

"город..зачем город? у меня лес по плану" :)
Я думал город:) На скетче вроде он был:) Хотя там одни кубики были - я нверное деревья с футуристическим городом и спутал :)

09 September 2005, 06:29 PM
ты просто пропустил пару обновленных скетчей :) you missed some sketches

denverbz - Hi! Thanks for your interest :thumbsup:

Max 234666 cccp
09 September 2005, 05:17 AM
Видимо так :) А что ты так резко перестроился с города на лес? По моему город лучше бы смотрелся

09 September 2005, 06:14 AM
у меня города-то и не было..был курортик :) а городов тут более чем достаточно, тем более у меня будет не просто лес :rolleyes:

09 September 2005, 07:10 AM
Hi. interesting idea. good luck.:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:40 AM (

Started to plan the scene as it will be in final.

09 September 2005, 08:42 AM
Nice!!! And this motion blur is really cool! Keep it up:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 09:06 AM
:) and don't forget about surprise in final :)

and for now I think I need to zoom out (or change a perspective) a little - so you could see the nearest engine.

but from this day I work on scene and forest!

09 September 2005, 10:55 AM
Very interesting transport has turned out! :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 02:38 PM
And where is the head of this... чудо-клоуна?

09 September 2005, 05:20 PM
На последнем апдейте ты немного с motion blur переборщил, нет?

The last image is too blured, no?

09 September 2005, 05:51 PM
-=N][K3R=- - didn't ready yet

suk-grigorij - yes, you're right, but that's just a test


09 September 2005, 12:51 PM
Wow, cool update:thumbsup: . Looks very dynamic, perhaps a little too blurred like Grigorij already said. With your surprise: be sure that I will stay curious and watch this! And I want to see the head!


10 October 2005, 12:46 PM
(o)ne, hi!
I think the picture is very bright :argh:
IMHO, it looks very hard...
modeling and texturing are great...
good luck!

бррр... незнаю, правильно ли написал на англ... но вобщем хотел сказать, что из за повышенной яркости, очень тяжело смотреть на картинку :(
ну а в остальном всё хорошо...

10 October 2005, 09:25 AM
Hi! It's the very effective scene! And I don't think that the last image is too blurred. It seems to me you only should do the trail more transparent. Good luck! :)

10 October 2005, 09:03 AM (

Trying to make nice snowy fur tree for scene..there will be tens of them..not one will be copied 50 times of course, they'll be different ;)

And it's not a full tree - it's just a top of it - cause the scene will took place high above the ground.

10 October 2005, 09:08 AM
daWinky - :) thank you for support!

_HaVok_ - hi! yes, you're right about brightness, I'll fix that in final

Atris - Hi. Agree with you :) that was just for test.

10 October 2005, 02:06 PM
Красивые елочки, может снег сделать "полегче?".

Max 234666 cccp
10 October 2005, 02:58 PM
Класные елочки ! Снег больше похож на герлянду на елке :) Может его стоит на ветках делать отдельно - а нетак вот герляндой?

10 October 2005, 03:07 PM
В Максе есть такая штука (по-моему в составных объектах) BlobMesh. Ну или как-то так называется. Она позволяет как бы сливать вместе различные объекты на манер Meta Particles. Для моделирования такого снега как ты хочешь очень удобный и простой интсрумент. Попоробуй.

10 October 2005, 03:26 PM
Согласен со всеми :)

блобы пробовал, пока только хуже получилось, но все-таки к ним похоже надо вернуться, покрутить побольше - сразу ничего красиво не получается (и с блобами получающийся меш почему-то смотрится плоским на рендере..а тот же материал на любом другом объекте смотрится как надо). А может еще чего придумается по ходу.

Many thanks for snow crits, guys :thumbsup: back to work on it now

10 October 2005, 05:58 PM (

ok, another try about snow... :) need refinings for sure - just looking for technology :)
And maybe I'll use blobMesh for close-up tree.

10 October 2005, 06:07 PM
Well Blobmesh is a good choice for making snow dude:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 06:43 PM
yes, maybe, but I have some materials problem with blobs - it looks flat somehow..

10 October 2005, 07:10 PM (

And another update...

Max 234666 cccp
10 October 2005, 07:23 PM
Ван - попробуй всетка руками смоделить снег - знаю я изврасшенец - но будет гораздо лучше!

10 October 2005, 04:53 AM
что значит руками? а это чем по-твоему :) мне этих елок надо хотя бы 50 более-менее разных..вот я и ищу как можно со снегом разобраться...чтобы и смотрелось прилично и по времени не было слишком долго..а чем конкретно этот вариант не нравится? и в финале по плану особо видно -то этого не будет..т.е. пока мне надо чтобы было видно елку и снег...короче посмотрим :) Спасибо

I'll be improving it..maybe for the whole month cause I need many trees. And in final they won't be seen very clear..So I need it just to look like a fur tree with some snow on it.. ;)

10 October 2005, 05:05 AM
Very good result for snow Stepan... I prefer the latest version... more natural for me :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:23 AM
Yes, I agree with Lemog. :) Last version is good. But i think u can make better! :thumbsup:

Max 234666 cccp
10 October 2005, 05:42 AM
А ну раз тебе их так много надо -то это другое дело, тогда будет смотреться нормально

10 October 2005, 06:28 AM
I was wondering when there was going to show up a snowboardscene, since that sport is so spectacular.

i like the snow on the tree:thumbsup:

my challenge entree (

10 October 2005, 08:58 AM
Lemog - :) good

Ultemate - I'll try

Max 234666 cccp - ага, это все для фона - it's for bg

Wytze - there was a board and a part of rider several images before :) but I'm workin' on it, thanks for watching :)

10 October 2005, 01:35 AM
hey, just checking in your progress... I don't know what to add since there are many replies that aren't written in english.

Comon guys keep it in english please.

10 October 2005, 06:37 AM
Hi! I like the last version. It looks very well!

10 October 2005, 05:24 PM
Если всетаки вернешся к блобам, то уменьши размар исходных примитивов и увеличь их число. получше выйдет. А насчет того, чтобы все едки разними были. Ну, блин зделай вариантов 7 -8 а затем когда будешь раставлять, повораивай их по вертикальной оси, так чтобы в камеру смотрели с разных сторон. Должно создаться впечатление, что все елки разные.

10 October 2005, 03:33 AM
SNoWs - thanks for checkin' :)

Atris - ok

suk-grigorij - нет, ну я и не собирался делать 50 елок с нуля конечно :) About blobs - I tried to do it your way, but don't like the result..and material looks flat on blobs (don't know why :shrug: )

thank you for your support !

10 October 2005, 06:13 AM
Xmas is coming soon ?

Nice job on the tree Stepan ! keep the good work !

10 October 2005, 08:36 PM
maybe u should try reactor?
doing some sphires and with the reactor u make from them soft body and drop them around the trees:shrug:

10 October 2005, 04:50 AM
gpepper - maybe :)

Sleng - reactor..hmm...I'll try, thanks :)

10 October 2005, 09:43 AM (

Don't have much time to work on my image these days :) so this is just a test of bg forest - now I'm going to make at least 10 original trees and then place'em on the scene in different angles.

10 October 2005, 10:14 AM
Strange effect... that seem to watch your picture with stereoscopic glasses... strange but pleasant... :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 10:46 AM
I plan to use it in final image too :eek:

10 October 2005, 06:05 PM (

I decided to make a new model for my girl-rider (cause current looks too simple for that board). That's the early beginning - started in 3dsmax, then to zbrush. More detailed updates soon.

10 October 2005, 08:12 PM
Nice model, waiting for more!!!

10 October 2005, 05:11 AM
Good starting for the modeling Stepan :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:35 AM
Your snowy tree background is great:thumbsup: ! I'm curious to see your zBrush work on the new girl model...:bounce:


10 October 2005, 07:22 AM
Lemog, daWinky - :)

10 October 2005, 07:24 AM (

more work on main forms.

10 October 2005, 08:45 AM
Hi. Interesting concept. good luck man :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 09:10 AM
:) thanks, man, more interesting and detailed update will be soon :wip:

10 October 2005, 12:42 PM (

Some more details...many refinings needed :)

10 October 2005, 04:55 PM
Правильно сделал, что девчонку перемоделил. Новая модель в несколько раз лучше предыдущей.

Good idea to remodel a girl characer. New model is few times beter than previous one.

10 October 2005, 05:23 PM
ага, пытался ту все переделать, но быстрее новую модель создать с учетом всего что нужно :)

yes, I tried to change the old model but decided that it's faster to create a new one.


10 October 2005, 05:38 PM
Hi (o)ne,

Your thread looks interesting for me. I follow your process.

Ralf Stumpf

10 October 2005, 05:26 AM
Ralf, thanks for you interest :)

10 October 2005, 05:30 AM
At this step, yet nice details man... :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:37 AM
:) I just devided it one more time and refining some places..and want to do some colors-textures work...

10 October 2005, 05:41 AM
Yes, I also think this model will fit better in your scene than the previous one. And it's already coming along pretty nice:thumbsup: . Good details and I'm curious to see more...:)


10 October 2005, 05:58 AM
ZB rules !
Nice job Stepan !

10 October 2005, 06:43 AM
Sabrina, Pfeiffer, cheers, friends :) but real pain for me is character for now I plan to finish with jacket then model hands and legs and only after that I'll go for textures ;)

10 October 2005, 06:44 AM
good job on this,details are good too,and yes,lotsof refinings!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 06:50 AM
good job on this,details are good too,and yes,lotsof refinings!:thumbsup:

agree, that's what I'm into now :wip: hope to submit couple of pictures later today :bounce:

10 October 2005, 07:21 PM
Я понял что ты имел ввиду под интересными формами. :scream:
Разве что стоит молнию уменьшить (в ширину) и над капюшоном поработать.:) Ну думаю ты сам знаешь лучше меня.:D

Looks nice! :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 08:22 PM
Классно получаеться!!! Рулез! :)

Max 234666 cccp
10 October 2005, 08:31 PM
Теперь класно!! Молодец - прально сделал что переделал - сделай еще в место леса Город :)

10 October 2005, 04:27 AM
Ultemate - already fixed zip and working on capo :)

BobbEr - I'll try to keep it up :)

Max 234666 cccp - ага, но до твоего города мне не дотянуться, лучше я все-таки лесом-лесом :) надеюсь тебе понравится результат. I'll add some more details soon

:beer: everyone for comments and critics

10 October 2005, 07:59 AM (

Another update of rider's jacket - now I want to start working on hands and legs. After that I'll return to the jacket for textures and some fixes.

10 October 2005, 05:53 AM
A masterpiece, a expensive object, and a true sculpture... hahaha... just stop and texture it... perfect man :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:13 AM
:arteest: working on hands-legs now, thanks, friend - your words cheer me up this morning :)

10 October 2005, 07:36 PM

Nice modeling... only one thing i dont like about zb is that it looks like sculpture, bumpy- ,issing sharpness, hope textures will do the thing! Goodluck!

10 October 2005, 05:22 AM
thanks a lot!

agree with your crits, i hope to fix zip and some other things with proper textures soon :)

10 October 2005, 07:46 AM
ZB OVERDOSE ! ..weeeeeeeee :bounce:

Beautiful sculpting :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 11:27 AM (

My first ever cloth textures..looks crappy now, but it's only a beginning :)

10 October 2005, 11:37 AM
Funny textures!!!:thumbsup: Good luck!!!

10 October 2005, 11:44 AM
yep, funny..or stupid :) anyway - more details in several hours :bounce:

10 October 2005, 01:03 PM (

some more front texture details..

10 October 2005, 02:48 PM
Textures are better now, and they match with background very well!:thumbsup: Try to give the material less "gummy" view! :beer:

10 October 2005, 03:05 PM
:) thanks, I'll kepp it in mind. I also want to make separate specular and reflection maps, it should look more interesting with'em :)

10 October 2005, 06:39 PM (

Just started to work on hands + some body texture changes.

Hands textures in progress.

10 October 2005, 10:47 AM
Nice suit, good modeling job anyway :thumbsup:

I`m looking forward to see more :bounce:

10 October 2005, 11:45 AM (

Thanks, Nomad!

And here is an update of hands textures..more wrists-work needed.

And I put a board to see how does the cloth style will look with board style.

Now I'm working on some GEOMETRY details for hands.

10 October 2005, 12:45 PM
mhmm this looks kinda strange, didnt expect that look of clothing, details looks nice, but like candy (very hand drawn), maybe u should take some clothing references, to look how fabric looks, the board itself looks pretty good, but the suit it self too much motley.

And i think u should make whole low poly model of the man to define proportions, couse now hands seems too short. imagine them when they will bend ;)

Good luck!

10 October 2005, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the critics, I'll fix things you mentioned about cloth textures (it's my first expirience with such kind of texturing) :) hands are really short, I thought that's only for me, but as you see it too..I'll make'em longer.

and I'm not sure that more realistic textures will fit my idea..but you'll never now without tryin; it.. :arteest:btw, if you can give me a link to some tutorial about creating such textures - that will be great :)

10 October 2005, 04:08 PM (

Meanwhile..I just started to work on new trees for the scene - this is just a rought start, I'll explain everything a bit later when I'll get nice result.

10 October 2005, 03:48 AM
Very funny and colored suit Stepan... I can't wait to see the final way of your picture style.

Snow on the trees seem very good... a very good way... go mate :bounce:

10 October 2005, 04:49 AM
thanks for the support, mate ;)

10 October 2005, 04:53 AM
You have your own style mate... it's the principal interest of your art... just follow your way stepan... :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:37 AM
Good progress here:) ! I agree with Dodgeas about the hands - a little to short. But I really like the style of the clothes:thumbsup: ! With a little work on bump and specularity I think this will look great. Of course it looks like handpainting - but that's just the point I like - designer clothes:bounce: !!


10 October 2005, 06:18 AM (

Here are some explanations on creating a snowy trees. As you can see I started with zsphere base in Zbrush, then converted it in polymesh, added some deformations (gravity for example) and export to 3ds max.

Then I used a free maxscript by Nik Clark ( to create snow on the branches (it extrudes certain faces and detaches it to another mesh).

This version looks better I think. Of course I need to spend some more time working on base mesh to make it look more interesting.

10 October 2005, 06:31 AM
Lemog - :rolleyes: I'm trying, thanks a lot :)

daWinky - glad you like it :) I'm rigging body and modelling legs now, so next update of the rider will be posed.

10 October 2005, 06:49 AM
Hey, Stepan! Nice ZBrush technic here! Body looks better now!

10 October 2005, 10:53 AM
хорошая ёлка !ты её одну будешь клонировать? лучше всё-таки сделать несколько -по-разнообразней

Good fur-tree! You one will clone it? It is better to make all a little bit-was more variously

10 October 2005, 12:00 PM
BobbEr - :)

Sergey Banityuk - yes, I plan to do 5-10 different trees with original widths, heights and branches placements, thanks for support :)

10 October 2005, 07:48 AM
Vrey nice job with Z-brush dude:thumbsup: I have missied lot of your good posts earlier dude I'm sorry for that:sad: , but you are doing a great job, just Go go go:bounce: :bounce:

10 October 2005, 08:05 AM
Thanks a lot for the support, Roshan! I'll continue with updates next week!

10 October 2005, 06:07 PM
Nice modeling and texturing work... snowy trees looks good, but i think that needs more work

keep up going:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:43 PM
Ver clever steps on the trees mate;) Cheers!

10 October 2005, 04:50 AM
That's works very good like that... good effect :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:51 AM
Maxter - yes, you're ritgh, I'm working on it :arteest:

DaddyMack - cheers, mate :)
Lemog - :rolleyes: thank you

11 November 2005, 11:47 PM
I have something to say..I decided to change couple of things..the only old model will be snowboard..I understand that I can't make some organic-cloth stuff as good as other challengers so I want to make it in way I can do it good - in mechanical way. There will be trees and there will be rider, no changes on idea (and even that surprise will be made too)


p.s. And there will be somthing to watch at, I promise.

11 November 2005, 04:45 AM
I'm astonished a little, because you carry out superb things in organics, but you are the master of your realization. Well... now, I must wait ome news of your story... keep it up mate... I know that... maybe I will change my story too :scream: hahahaha

11 November 2005, 05:42 AM
Thank you for the support, Laurent, my friend :)

Updates will be in soon.

11 November 2005, 06:43 AM
very nice stuff on tree:scream:

11 November 2005, 05:23 AM
Hi! It's looking very good! A change? That sounds most intriguing. I look forward to seeing your next update! Good luck! :)

11 November 2005, 07:54 AM
Yes, changes..As I don't have much time left - I want to make some fun :) the concept is totally new and crazy (a bit) - it will be some sort of fairy tale with mechanics and funny creatures.

I'll post new sketch very soon (and I started the modelling already).

The only thing left is winter and snow.


11 November 2005, 09:01 AM
New concept? That's interesting!
I love the work you've done with the snowy trees so I'm glad you plan to keep them - good luck!

11 November 2005, 09:16 AM
Thanks, Gunilla! Now I'm working hard to create everything I plan :)

11 November 2005, 12:42 PM
Go, go. Work faster. :thumbsup:

Look better. :eek:

11 November 2005, 02:48 PM (

29 days left and I started all from the begginning. This is unfinished top floor of the house. With future updates and concept sketch I'll discover you my new idea (it's easier to show it instead of talking about it :) )

The house will be very unusual. This is just a beginnig - just a day of work. Everything needs many refinings.

There will be some kind of village will be much higher than any snowy'll see :)

11 November 2005, 04:44 PM (

Some more details on top module..more interesting update will be on monday.

11 November 2005, 05:14 PM
hmm,Nice design! i loved that"Top Module"!:thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 06:39 PM
nice design .... :thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 06:58 PM (

This one just to point the way I'm going to..more details on mechanism are coming soon.

And there will be at least 2-3 more levels in the building.