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09 September 2005, 05:35 AM
Carl Alexander Bartholomew Hosp is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

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09 September 2005, 06:48 AM (

I think something that is spectacular is WWII. Especially the planes. When things weren't all jet engines. So for this challenge I chose to do a battle above germany. I chose some of my favorite aircraft of that time including a lockheed P-38J Lightning, a consolidated B-24D liberator, and Messerschmitt Me 109G "GUSTAV". All CC is welcome.
Good Luck to ever one.
Crazy Carl

09 September 2005, 08:46 AM
Cool, I like your idea! However at the moment there's not much overly spectacular happening in this scene. Seems like a fairly run of the mill dogfight between a few planes. I'd imagine a spectacular scene to consist of for example thousands of parachutists falling out of the sky, or maybe a dogfight with hundreds of planes or something. Something really epic and spectacular.

Good luck!

09 September 2005, 02:45 AM
Hey thanks for the imput! I am planning on adding much more w/ photoshop. This sketch was a quick one at 1:30. I just wanted to see what people thought of my idea.I am planning on adding many more airplanes but i wanted my focus to be on the 3. As for the paratroopers i'm not sure. the idea is good but i'm planning on adding flak in the skies so i don't know how well that would work. Perhapes bombs?

09 September 2005, 03:02 AM
Yeah I don't know if paratroopers would be necessarily the way to go, but it was just a thought. Think of the beach scene in Saving Private Ryan with the thousands of troops, airships and the like. That sort of scale gives it that feeling of "spectacular" to me.

09 September 2005, 04:16 AM
Believe it or not my other idea was to do the beaches of normandy invasion! lol.What do you think would be better for the p-38 a top veiw or a bottom?

09 September 2005, 10:51 AM
Well I would try and show the top if it's going to be the centrepiece of the action, but I would definately try getting down some more ideas and experimenting with more layouts first, and hopefully out of that it will become more obvious how it should be shown. :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:56 PM
Hey Carl, you asked me to respond so here goes.

First, the problem is this:

This subject has been exhausted for quite some time.

I think if you want to keep the grit and glory and sky combat thing, perhaps take a new spin on it. I spoke with you about alternate history, but this is also a very exhausted area. I don't know, Carl. The trick here is to create an image that really exhilerates the senses, 'quickens your pulse' so to speak. As exciting as a WWII furball is, nowadays it's only exciting if you see it moving. This is a still image, so you really have to play with the right camera angle. There has to be a lot of inherant motion and momentum that grabs you by the gut. Or not. Depends on how you go about your composition.

That's really all the advice I can give for now. Hope that helps.


09 September 2005, 05:37 AM (

This is another concept, i chose to do something a little different than my previous idea. instaed of doing something with war and fight i chose to do something more peaceful. My idea is that first moment when one brings home their first child. That really happy and relaxed state. i like this idea better that my WWII air battle. Thanks to Stanley he did make it clear that WWII is over done. So i'm going to try this. PLease tell me what you think. i'm not to good at drawing the human figure so i fugure this will be a better experiance that my first idea.

09 September 2005, 05:25 AM (

here's a new idea. i thought i would do a wedding. but mix it up a little bit, this is a rought draft of the church. i'm planning on making it like cosmic, or something. tell me what you think


09 September 2005, 08:34 PM
Your "Chuch" looks nice Carl.

I think you could go even more grandiose than that though. Look at some of the larger European cathedrals and think about what makes them so cavernous and 'spectacular', and see if you can exaggerate that at all. Right now it looks less like a cathedral and more like a chapel. Here are some links you might want to take a look at:

Gothic Architecture (

Details of Cathedrals (

And add some faeries. Seriously. Not enough faeries. With different kinds of gowns.

It'll be spectacular.

09 September 2005, 09:11 PM (

hey everyine, i cleaned up my pic abit. tell me what you think. I'm thinking about paning back and up a bit.
Crazy Carl

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