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09-06-2005, 08:42 AM
Ali Asali is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Texturing: another shot of the textured KID! (

09-06-2005, 08:59 AM
Hey guys,im so happy! :D
this Them is really cool...lets see what happens!

Good luck all.....:thumbsup:

09-06-2005, 04:41 PM
welcome here.....and good luck on this battle:thumbsup:

09-06-2005, 07:38 PM

09-07-2005, 07:19 AM
You've joined too Ali... well, an another great competitor here... for the fun... best wishes for you mate :thumbsup:

09-07-2005, 05:31 PM
Hi Ali,

Feels good, all the cool faces are in the challenge! Let's rock this place my friend!

Good luck :thumbsup:

09-08-2005, 02:23 AM
Good Luck:thumbsup:

09-08-2005, 07:17 AM
hi ali

i will follow
good luck

09-08-2005, 09:09 AM
Thanx guys....This one is really difiivult but interesting !:d amazing!

i hope this Time,i finish 5 or 6 days sooner!:D
also i have so much work to do..but this is the highest priority!

09-08-2005, 09:16 AM
i hope this Time,i finish 5 or 6 days sooner!
I think that you're be able to do it :scream: hahahaha...

09-09-2005, 03:46 PM
Yeah,i confess that was a Funny joke!:D

09-10-2005, 07:46 PM
hey ali (chakerim) good luck... i want to see your idea... Good Luck :thumbsup:

09-10-2005, 09:42 PM
Nice to meet U,
Hey man just uploud sketch and idea,
Can't wait for that.

09-11-2005, 08:27 PM (

hey guys,very rough concept sketch, i'll show characters individually,and these colors are not the final ones,so its just the idea:
story: this is a race! race of horses! there are some competitors,but one of them is to somhow a surprise! this special horse instead of having 2 back legs,it has one big metallic wheel! yeah,its so faastttt!!!:D
Hope u like it!

09-11-2005, 08:30 PM
mamali and bahman,thanx guys...keep chekin it:D

09-12-2005, 07:33 AM
Hilarious and for sure, spectacular thing... why not... I imagine yet something very funny with your particular style, that can give us something very interesting... cool man :scream:

09-12-2005, 07:51 AM
Hahaha.Very funny man, the fastest horse ever.Cool:thumbsup:

09-12-2005, 08:57 AM
mamali and bahman,thanx guys...keep chekin it:D

Hey Ali.
Good job so far! Happy to have you here.
Good luck pal!

09-12-2005, 10:57 PM
Cool ali,
Do U want to design Motors for your special horse!!!?
A BIG once :D
Anyway it will become a good stuff,
Keep it up.:bounce:

09-13-2005, 09:19 AM
Lemog,MR Micro,Adel And bahman,thanx a lot guys!
bout addind some motors or things like that,i must say that the attractiveness of it is in being so simple at the same time tricky! it dosnt gather any attention at first,but then it shows off!:D
thx anyway...

09-13-2005, 12:13 PM (

ok,guys,heres the main character,cheater!:D

09-13-2005, 12:16 PM (

heres another one,ofcourse its not a female character,that hair will help him to look more fool!:D i'll upload other characters and their horses soon...c&c are the most welcome

09-13-2005, 04:23 PM
Hi ali i hope you luck in this challenges.:thumbsup:

09-13-2005, 07:29 PM
Nice concept ali
looking for more
is it realstic or cartoonish?

09-13-2005, 08:37 PM
thanx guys,yeah a good question..this is sth between real and fantasy,ofcourse i know that the boarderline between them is soooo thiin,and tricky! am going to try it out!:thumbsup:

09-13-2005, 09:27 PM (

this is the chater,front view,just to express his character and personality.

09-13-2005, 09:32 PM (

this is a sketch of the possible face expressions of the chater's horse.c&c?

09-13-2005, 09:35 PM (

here's another one! this is the other horserider,u can see that he is tired,he is surprised,and he fears a little!

09-13-2005, 10:10 PM
This last horserider is fantastic, very expressive... better :thumbsup:

About the horse, if you want to keep in the same style... maybe it need to be more expressive... with amplified details... as its master :D

09-13-2005, 10:14 PM
Oh , nice concept dude .hope to see more progress on it .:bounce:

09-13-2005, 11:25 PM
nice and humerous concept! has good potential
enjoy and have fun man!

09-14-2005, 07:47 AM
Thanx guys,

Lemog,thanx alot,ur right,i was thinkin of that too,but what do u mean by "amplified"? or u mean "samplified?"! anyway,thats right,i'll take this advice,thanx!:D
Ramtin,thanx,az ur concept is great too! keep goin this time.'
yunisirees,Thanx,dude,az urs!:D
i'll do some more sketches,of other horses and their horseriders,soon..keep talking!

09-14-2005, 08:21 AM
Lemog,thanx alot,ur right,i was thinkin of that too,but what do u mean by "amplified"? or u mean "samplified?"! anyway,thats right,i'll take this advice,thanx!!
I just think "amplified" at the shape level, as your previous red sketch of the horse rider... more angular, and more caricatural... :)

09-14-2005, 08:26 AM
You are a great artist and you have nice drawing skills. I like the concept, it is a nice funny concept.
I like the second horse riders expression it looks cool.
Waiting for more updates this scene is gonna look funny as well as great.:)

09-14-2005, 10:44 AM
Lemog,yeah i got it! weirdness is my favorit!:D anyway,i'll examin that! thanx for the continious suport!:D
Madshooter,thanx a lot,mate...seems that u guys like the second hrider more! okay,
switching to that mode!:deal:

09-14-2005, 11:01 AM
Okay now... what is it they're adding to the drinking water over there anyway? I see so many incredible talents specifically from Iran these days...

Very funny stuff going on here, and I love the expression on the top-most guy in the very first rough sketch :D Great concept!

09-14-2005, 12:19 PM
Very nice concepts! i liked
Reminds me a little bit the Tim Burton style... realy cool!
I will be waching here, good luck for u and keep going:thumbsup:
c ya

09-14-2005, 07:42 PM
hahahahha.James that was really hilliarious,thanx a lot dude!
LAURA:Thanx alot,mate..ur cool too! thanx for dropping by...
cya guys,soon,with some new sketches....:twisted:

09-16-2005, 11:28 AM
Hello Madlight, very funny concept and amazing sketches ahm!
I'll be watching your progress that's for sure.
Good luck.

09-16-2005, 05:58 PM
very good Idea Ali I like it
Eyval baba

09-16-2005, 06:02 PM
Good luck man:)

09-16-2005, 07:03 PM
Your project looks really kool so far, the drawings are very classy. The theme is pretty nutty, I like it. good luck.

09-16-2005, 09:21 PM (

hey guys,switching to the most enjoyful part,modelling,i have modelled the head of the second horserider,as usuall base mesh in max,and the rest in ZB.till tonight ill finish this up,c&c are welcome...

09-16-2005, 09:25 PM
claudio_jordao,Fredy,Ahmed Hosny,soapy,Thank u all,ur BIG supporters!

09-16-2005, 10:00 PM
just... great strat ............... Good luck man

09-16-2005, 10:15 PM (

hey guys,imported to max,hat added,and eyes...stille have to do a lot of things,c&c??

09-17-2005, 02:03 AM
Looks great! The concept sketches are, beyond any doubt, hilarious - I love them.

Good work so far and I'm looking forward to the endresult!

09-17-2005, 08:12 AM
For me, you're following the exactly good way... you can continue, that's perfect for me :thumbsup:

09-17-2005, 09:51 AM (

hey guys,its now textured,other stuff will be added soon....

09-17-2005, 09:55 AM (

left view.,click on it for better resolution and more details....

09-17-2005, 09:58 AM
Lemog and the Parrot,thx alot guys,any crits?

09-17-2005, 10:56 AM
Nice ali
a little crit:
(behtar nabood ke fak va paine ostokhane jomjome dar yek emtedad bood?)
sorry for my poor english

09-17-2005, 11:43 AM
tHANX ALSHAKNO, for those who couldnt catch what he said:
"wasnt it better for the jaw to be at the straight line along the skull's bone?"
now the answer,i must say that cuz its a toonlike head,and its between real and toon,i have designed that just to somehow complete his helps me to express the feelings better,a very small jaw helps me out to express the "astounished"figure of the horserider...
anyway thanx for dropping by....:Dmamnoon agha...

09-17-2005, 11:45 AM (

hey guys,some added details....

09-17-2005, 11:50 AM (

hey guys,some added details,of course they are 2d paintings over ZB.

09-17-2005, 12:15 PM
it`s very nice character modeling I like it`s style.that`s carzy man.:thumbsup:

09-17-2005, 03:07 PM
HAHAHA! Great idea. Great modelling. Want to see more.
Good luck.

09-17-2005, 03:50 PM
This is coming along well. I like the skin texture and the stylized models. Good luck!

09-17-2005, 04:06 PM
Hi Ali,,you have so cool style in modeling your funny characters.
Love what i'm seeing for now,keep the edge strong.
Seeya man.

09-17-2005, 04:19 PM
yeah very cool concept and welcome great zbrush artist!

09-17-2005, 05:04 PM
hahaha .... :applause:

greet modeling ali ...

i like the that model ... its so funny ...

keep it up man .. :)

09-17-2005, 05:06 PM
hey,its Gooooooooooooddddd to see it shaping in 3D:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

09-17-2005, 06:48 PM
hey a very unique character and like how u have textured it! hmm i think u could improve the eye (iris) or is it going to be detailed?
great work cheers!

09-17-2005, 07:25 PM
ur technique looks different .but for me the colors r attractive ,especially the helmet.

09-17-2005, 08:24 PM
Fredy,Thanx man,ur good too,,:)
suk-grigorij,heyy,nice 2cya back on these challenges,goodluck to u too...:deal:
gardogg,Thanx man....:)
A I R,hey! thanx damir! i love ur entry too...:love:
monsitj,thanx master!:buttrock:
maxspider3000,thanx,im happy that u have liked it....:)
kmest,Thanx Reza,me too!:)
yunisirees,thanx man,of course its going to be detailed,thats like a pre-sketch!:thumbsup:
CUBISIS,Thanx man...:D

hey guys thanx alot,im really glad that u liked it...i am going to upload another sketch of this horserider....

09-17-2005, 08:27 PM (

hey guys,i have painted his body,its just a sketch,ill switch back to 3d.c&C?

09-17-2005, 09:28 PM
Original and funny concept

the jockey looks great... Good luck!!:thumbsup:

09-17-2005, 09:38 PM
What a detailed & wierd head, good texturing, I wish to see the result in composition.,
In my eyes chin of your face is a bit tiny, But overall look is awsome.

09-18-2005, 02:41 AM
hehe, that character of yours is really something man, very unique design! way to go!



09-18-2005, 02:45 AM
I am diggin the vibe of your character..


09-18-2005, 02:50 AM
Interesting design of the character you have, good luck to ya man!:thumbsup:

09-18-2005, 03:06 PM
That's one extremely weird head dude! But it works, at it has that funny expression still, so just keep doing what you're doing.

09-18-2005, 07:22 PM
Maxter,thanx man.

bahman,thanx for the comment,im going to do some major retouches!

Adriano_Zanetti,Thanx not as something as urs!:D



JamesMK,Thanx James,weirdness is my favorit!:D

KAy,guys,ill be givin it a rest,in these few days,cuz ill be on an emergency trip,but i hope,i can do some parts in trip! thanx for all the support....

09-19-2005, 09:10 AM
Creepy... weird... strange... interesting... original... spectacular. Very good job friend.

09-19-2005, 09:19 AM
Very nice modeling Mlight, Your are doing it right way.

Keep up the good work dude:thumbsup:

09-19-2005, 09:35 AM
very good character ! can't wait to see it in 3d ! :)

09-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Nice work

it's time to make so 3d:thumbsup:

09-23-2005, 10:47 AM
Kay Guys,im back again,the Trip is over,so ill be finding sometime for this challenge,damn im really busy! with everything!

claudio_jordao,madshooter,monks,Ahmed Hosny,Thanx guys,of course iu must add that the head and the helmet is 98.675 % 3D! just cloths and bands and hands and,... are 2.5d!
ill be back with some new models soon....

09-24-2005, 08:10 AM
Hi.nice concept,any 3d?

09-24-2005, 07:05 PM
Your skin shader is excellent!!:thumbsup:

09-25-2005, 06:10 AM
Thanx guys,
Ali-rahimi-3d,i mentioned this before:

Thanx guys,of course iu must add that the head and the helmet is 98.675 % 3D! just cloths and bands and hands and,... are 2.5d!
ill be back with some new models soon....

09-25-2005, 09:30 AM
damn,you're good...c'mon, keep going:thumbsup:

09-25-2005, 05:09 PM (

hey guys,after some few days,im back with updates...ofcourse i must add that things like glassess are not photorealistic,iv designed them frome what i had in mind,...andofourse this is a WIP,i must add detailes to the bands and some more stuff must be added to the face area,so keep commenting,guys,.

09-25-2005, 05:11 PM (


09-25-2005, 08:40 PM (

hey guys,i retouched and completed the bands and then imported back to ZB,and add some more detailes and subdivide it once,and then rendered..i rendered the scene in max too,but not with skylight,this is done be 40 spotlights and 2 omnis,which helps u not to lose ur ZB details! c&C?

09-25-2005, 09:42 PM
that's awesome man, great concept... I envy your ZB skills!

keep it up

09-26-2005, 04:55 AM
I like very much your idea, and it has a great head this person, beautiful work of modelling and the displacement texture.:thumbsup:

09-26-2005, 06:30 AM
Thanks a lot for these incredible pictures Ali... awesome work and incredibles details, very appreciated. A very great pleasure to see that... congratulations... and for sure, I'm waiting for more :thumbsup:

09-26-2005, 07:09 AM
Nice work
only a comment.with such a unreal character i think its better to use a much more deeper displacment. good luck ... :thumbsup:

09-26-2005, 12:20 PM
Amazing details, No crits dude:thumbsup:

09-26-2005, 12:44 PM
very good modeling madlight I like your 3D styling man. :thumbsup: continue......

09-26-2005, 04:58 PM
Like your models, mate. Vey're very stylish.

09-26-2005, 05:02 PM
wow,maaaaaan........Great Job:)

09-27-2005, 06:23 AM
I loved this head! keep going man!
c ya!

09-27-2005, 07:04 AM
Very impressive modeling there. Love the idea. Good luck to you.

09-27-2005, 07:14 AM
Am I...:banghead:...the only ....:banghead:...ignorant.....:banghead:...who still can't use...:banghead:...ZBrush???? lol, great job Ali! :beer:

09-27-2005, 07:23 AM
nice and cool little details ur putting here and there! hehe leaving no chance to crit man ;) !
keep up the great stuff!

09-27-2005, 11:35 AM
Wonderful details and a very cool character! Outstanding work:thumbsup: ! I'm waiting for updates...


09-27-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi Ali.

Lovin it man(eyval dari)....the concept.....the art....waiting to see your final entry

09-27-2005, 09:23 PM
Versiden,Thanx man..:D

ChrisD01,thanx mate,ofcourse i havnt yet used them,but ill use disp maps as soon as i finish this head up!

Lemog,maan,im surprised with these nice words! thanx alot! iv got some extra energy!

ali_rahimi_3d,Thanx Ali,but i think,this character has enough details,u know i dont want to make even macrooscopic textures of the skin and ... remember that this is more TOON rather than Real! thanx for dropping by...

madshooter,Fredy,suk-grigorij,3rd user,LAURO_MX,fgcity,yunisirees,daWinky,N_krypsh_N: So much thanx for these great words and support,im happy that uv liked it folks!

Climax,come on man,i cant say this is easy,but U have the ability and power to use it,for someone like u it might be like drinkin water! just play around with it,ull learn the basics,and then some practice(some means lots of!) and thats it,ur MASTER! ofcourse it dosnt do miracles,but indispensibile tool for 3d artists! ZBrush helps my mind aloot,i feel i can execute whatever i want,its so good to be behaved like this! man,just start it! goodluck!:thumbsup:

so much thanx people,very kind words,keep putting feedback...


09-28-2005, 05:53 AM
Lemog,maan,im surprised with these nice words! thanx alot! iv got some extra energy!
Don't be surprise Ali... I'm just in admiration, in front of a kind of realization that I could neither imagine, nor to realize it... it's your particular style, that's all... cheers mate :thumbsup:

09-28-2005, 04:51 PM
Good work ali, I will follow It & waiting for next big changes. Good luck!:thumbsup:

09-28-2005, 08:09 PM
hey there.. you have a damn cool concept!!!. have a lot of luck here and hope you have fun finishing this!.. Nice zbrush work :thumbsup:

09-29-2005, 11:35 AM (

hey guys,iv started modelling the body,heres a very early Zspheres im going to use,any c&c?

09-29-2005, 11:40 AM
Lemog,thanx man,im speechless! :shrug:
Bahman,Thanx mate!
stripe,Thanx Stripe,not as good as u!
hey guys,ill be workin on the body for sometime,and will show u what iv came up with,its really hard to execute those kinda clothes! any suggestions/crits?:)

09-29-2005, 08:37 PM (

hey guys,after an hour!

09-29-2005, 08:43 PM (

Hey folks,iv textured whole job was done in like 2 or 3 hours,but i learned alot,the shader took me 20 minutes,and texturing 20 minuts,modelling 1hour...c&c? i'll give a brief summary...some material setups and ZScripts maybe! thanx for visiting...

09-29-2005, 08:46 PM
This is a great update! My only crits would be that the hands need some work and the stripes I don't think should carry over from the back onto the arms like that. The stripes on the arms should be separate from those on the back.

09-29-2005, 09:16 PM
hello my dear friend "ahamd ali" .

i hope you will be fine . i wish you arrive your concept soon and clearly .

i join this challenge and i am in concepting now but i submit my sketches soon .


09-29-2005, 09:32 PM (

this one is just to show how the head will look like on this body,ofcourse not precisely! and i forgot to say,the shoes are not DONE at all,thats just a blurry thing which i have in my mind,ill model that later!
c&Si are the most welcome!

09-29-2005, 09:32 PM
very good modeling and texturing too but I think the hands and legs are unnormal.they need more work.any way good work man :thumbsup: .continue........

09-29-2005, 09:41 PM
Nice rider, i love your modeling style and your concept :)

The textures are cool but i find the cloths a bit too shiny. I's look more wet than shiny. ;)

09-29-2005, 09:48 PM
thanx guys for the fast reply!

gardogg,Thanx man,ur totally right bout the stripes,NOW im fixing that! thanx...
x3dman,Howr ya,X3DMAN! im happy that u have joined too,goodluck,fellow iranian!
Fredy,Thanx man,bout hands ur right,but im just thinkin of FINAL POSE/shot.CUZ I dont have enough time to just go into very deep details,maybe if i got the time...bout foot,i dont feel that,would u explain why? so much thanx for dropping by man,,,,
Goul,Thanx Mate,ur right,i'll go fix that,ofcourse its not that WET!anyway,thanx....

09-29-2005, 09:55 PM
Excellent idea!:thumbsup:
good luck !

09-29-2005, 10:18 PM (

Stripes are fixed,...

09-30-2005, 03:36 AM
Hi, your character is very complex and fun. Good work.

09-30-2005, 09:20 AM
when i saw it, i was just like jaw hit the dude:thumbsup:

09-30-2005, 09:55 AM
FAN-TASTIC :thumbsup: thanks for this good lesson... funny and expressive... a good mix between ZB and your incredible and pleasant style... :cool:

09-30-2005, 12:48 PM
very very nice work and excellent originality on the figure, I love it ! :thumbsup:

09-30-2005, 02:58 PM
banzato,3rd user,Lemog,jddog:So much thanx,its the result of ur support!

09-30-2005, 03:02 PM (

hey guys,some details....

09-30-2005, 03:02 PM
Hi Madlight!
Very cool zbrushing! the character is being Realy nice :)
I loved this style.
c ya

09-30-2005, 03:05 PM (

Dof added,iv played with different layers of lights,and this is the result..c&C?

09-30-2005, 03:20 PM
Man this a rocking update:buttrock: Dof looks cool dude also the lighting looks promising to me:thumbsup:
Some how I feel there are some problem with the shoes It might be a skinning problem, but over all great job dude:thumbsup:

09-30-2005, 03:44 PM
Yes, this really looks fantastic:thumbsup: ! I already liked the head, but complete it is even better. Though it is just a wip, I think the pose is very good and fits to the style of the head. The only thing I would crit so far is the position of the startnumber on the shirt on the update before. But I don't know how this is positioned on a real jockey-outfit...and you don't use it in recent update:) ! Shaders and dof are great, just some work on hands and shoes and it will be perfect!


09-30-2005, 04:23 PM
hi Madlight_1988
nice zb-ing man! the folds look very realistic on the cloth!nice detailing there!

09-30-2005, 10:45 PM
Hey nice job boy !!
I like the cloth details ;)

10-01-2005, 06:38 PM
I think this is really looking great so far. I would suggest that you fix the hands and boots a little more though. The boots look like gello and the hands look very puffy, as if filled with water or swollen. Outside of that, great! Oh, one more thing, the textures look pixelated on the edges. I don't know what is causing that though.

Much better on the stripes ;)

10-01-2005, 09:52 PM
good job on cloth details....keep it on:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

and sure u would work more on the shoes...:)

10-01-2005, 11:30 PM
Hi Ali, good details in cloth, though his boots need more attention, his legs i think are too short too, lighting and rendering are very good
I have a question 4 you, I've already (since yesterday:scream:) started zbrushing and u were right! once you get into it u start getting the feel of it, i managed to export disp maps to max and applying 'em in it's proper slot, kind of treekie but following a simple tutorial i could made it ok, but when rendering is a pain in the a... pretty slow is it normal, i mean is there any tip you can give me to improve rendering speed? I am rendering with Tsmooth at level 2, tryed mental ray but there is not much diference in time, i'll appreciate any suggestion :thumbsup:

C ya!

10-02-2005, 10:11 AM
Hey guys,thanx alot for your kind words,but i said before: Shoes are not even WIP! and that wouldnt be the final,iv done this not to loos some polys wich i want to tweak when the realshoe is imported to the scene,i would be attaching them more easily,
in 110th post of this thread i explained everything bout shoes....

now replys:
madshooter,Thanx man,sure ill fix that.

daWinky,Thanx man,about the start number,i noticed that too! so u cant see it on the last update,it should be on the left hand,and has its own cloth! thanx for the notice and these kind words!


-REZA-:heyy! atlast an internet connection is found! thanx for dropping by Reza,ur the BIG support!

gardogg,Thanx for the suggestions,mate! bout the hands i said before that cuz in the final shot,there will be no attention put on this part,i have to somehow skipped the details and just an owerall outline to express the form,but totallu ur right,if i got the time sure ill fix that.thanx

kmest,Thanx Reza,iv written a discription on top of this post! have u got any projects?cuz i felt like ur busy and ur thread is bein updated weekly!:D show us what u have in mind!

Climax,thanx for dropping by,man.bout shoes i explained that at first.^bout legs,since its not going to be a photorealistic scene in things like anatomy and facial things and stuff,i don care! i mean my character Design is different and i have executed what which was in my mind 95%!
bout ur problem,i myself do not use disp maps,cuz i found them more time taking to calculate both is ZB and max,of course i must say that,it totally depends on ur model! how many polygons,with how much detailes and how many polygons are in the base mesh and some other issues,but in Max,i use VRay 3d diplacement,and have no idea bout default disp calculator,but in ZB,i use these settings,see the image attached... on ZBrushCentral u can get some really good suggestions and troublshooting as well,i remember there was a thread on ZBCentral that had invited ZB artists and had gave them a ZB model,and asked them to go and export the models with displacement maps within,and then come and show the result and share the settings,wich was really usefull,tons of artists participated,with a little search u can find the thread....i hope u understand what i meant,and i dont think that it was useful,but that all i know about!

10-02-2005, 11:52 AM (

heres a brief tutoial onhow i have rendered the last update..i donno if its useful,i just wanted to share it.ill be sharing some ZScripts and Skin shaders too.currently am a little bit busy!

10-02-2005, 07:04 PM
Hi Ali, I was testing out to see results of displacemt maps inside of max, the default disp of max really really sucks, i rendered a simple model tsmooth level 1,2 and 3 and the result was insainly slow, Mental ray went down, brazil was much more faster but doesn't render good disp maps, and then Vray and voila! it is the perfect 'cuz it has a built in displacement interpretation wich for default overrides max's, with scanline render rendering time was 31 minutes and fairly good at TS level 3, but Vray's rendering time was about 20 second and 200% better! :buttrock:at TS level 1!
Cheers for you man! i appreciate your concern in handing me tips and moral support ( i was about to desist trying :scream: ) you were right, some effort pays at the end!

About your model, sorry i had,'t read the explanation about anatomy issues, but now i know u want a special character, i see it in a different way, i can't wait to see his head up there!

10-02-2005, 07:28 PM
:sad: Ali, great job on the modeling, but...I think the pants look too shiny, like satin or something. Just dosn't look right to me.

P.S. you were supposed to email me!!!:sad:

10-04-2005, 07:22 AM
Hi. nice cloth. good luck man :thumbsup:

10-04-2005, 08:58 AM
Hey ali,

I'll follow your work.Hope to see other steps from you .

I am happy that other Iranians are participating and we are not alone anymore.
And you can find good artists here.
Good luck mate!

10-05-2005, 08:40 PM
Climax,im happy that u atlast find the way,man!
N_krypsh_N,Thanx man! i told u that its not possible!
ali_rahimi_3d,Thanx Ali.
adel3d,yeah! on this challenge we are meeting some new Iranian artists here! its really promising!:applause: Thanx for dropping by!

Currently im busy with some HEAVY projects! sure ill get back to challenge soon!thanx for the support!:buttrock:

10-07-2005, 12:02 PM
hi ali ...
nice to meet you again here ..
your work is realy nice ... i like that .
goodluck man .


10-10-2005, 12:27 PM (

Hey guys,After a hard and very busy week,i modelled the main character,i decided to redesign the main character,the Cheater,ti be FAT! this will be a good reason for cheating! he used to be a good horserider,but by the time passes,he got fat! ofcours his Horse is FAT too! both of em are ina a bad challenge,he is to cheat!

Was fully made in ZB2,as u see some models of first steps,and u see Edgeloops to,i will be adding some details,and then texturing.I JUST WANT TO MODEL THAT FAT BODY!lol.
C&C are welcome...

10-10-2005, 12:38 PM
Cool head Z_fellow!
Keep up the good work!

10-10-2005, 12:44 PM (

Profile view...

10-10-2005, 12:48 PM (

another shot,..ofcourse i forgot to say,LIPS ARE really WIP!!! Just dont pay attention! im lazy!:D

10-10-2005, 01:04 PM
Hahahaha... him !!! great face... another strong design... he remain me my first boss... a really malicious and not very frequentable person. :bounce:

10-10-2005, 01:26 PM
Very ZBrushy Indeed....The Look is Gross, suitable for Cheaters:thumbsup:

10-10-2005, 02:00 PM
Very nice update dude:thumbsup: Nice z-brush work:)

10-10-2005, 04:57 PM
Very good and accureate model.

10-10-2005, 08:55 PM
I like your model,nice work:)

10-10-2005, 10:07 PM
another unique and cool head man! waiting to see how the details come out! ... will be nice for sure!

10-11-2005, 05:30 AM
Lemog:haha,great! i wish i could see his face someday! these guys are in minority here,we have Thin bastards,rather FAT ones!
3rd user,madshooter,suk-grigorij,Fredy,yunisirees:so much Thanx guys,everlasting support!:buttrock:

10-11-2005, 07:51 PM

nice ali
it realy look nice!

10-11-2005, 08:50 PM (

hey guys,i retouched the previous model a little,now it feels more like a young, bastard,FAT horse rider!!! the next stage will be texturing...c&c?

10-11-2005, 08:52 PM (

profile view,with more clear details...

10-11-2005, 08:53 PM
Haha ! He looks terribly stupid. I was not really interested in your first head wip attempt but now he's more attractive. (well, if I can say that.. :D )

10-11-2005, 09:09 PM
Great stile... very good modeling... :thumbsup:

10-11-2005, 09:38 PM
Hey look at that Fat bastard !!
He has the best eyes you have ever done ;)
he has a good nose too !!:thumbsup:
I think his lips need a little work , & his neck ... ya the neck needs alot of work !
You can use Hossein Rezazadeh az refrence .

Wish you succeed .

10-12-2005, 01:36 AM
Hey Ali..hes a great character. Likeim, reaaly fits as a cheater personality. Simply disgusting.

Absolutely on tha way. Just keep this spin my friend it's gonna be a fine piece.

10-12-2005, 05:14 AM
I'm sorry man, but there is not way to critique this! How can I say, "'that looks wrong' or 'change that'?" What I can say is I LOVE IT! It's so darn funny and just downright original. I love your style and look forward to your next update.

10-12-2005, 05:55 AM
Each picture at each time is a real pleasure Ali... really strong, nice, disturbing and beautiful... good recipe :thumbsup:

10-12-2005, 07:05 AM
Gosh:scream: !!! This character looks even better than the first one:thumbsup: . I want to see him on his fat horse!! Update please!!:bounce: :bounce:


10-12-2005, 04:15 PM
Grorum,hey,ur right! thanx,man!
MadnesS,Thanx mate...
-REZA-,heyy,thanx,sure,ill fix that! mr.BIG support!
gardogg,come ooon! ur so kind! thanxalot...
Lemog,oh,Lemog ur a big support! in any time!
daWinky,heyyy,Thanx man!ur so kind!sure ill update soon.

Hey guys,so much thanx,the next update will be some retouches and texturing....:love: although im busy,but this is the highest priority!:)

10-12-2005, 05:57 PM
great caracteristic style you have madlight, love it. see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10-12-2005, 06:26 PM
Damn it!

That's a really funny and ugly face in the same time..a bit disturbing...Really really nice, i love it :thumbsup:

10-12-2005, 07:28 PM (

hey guys,heres a try at the eyes,and their shape.i have 2 choices,which im posting here,choos one of them,i simple prefer the second one! i want to know ur comment! thanx for visiting!

10-12-2005, 07:31 PM (

this is the second choice,
ofcourse the direction is not important in this stage!

10-12-2005, 07:34 PM
I prefer the second too, fit well with the character.

10-12-2005, 07:34 PM
alex.h.,Goul:hey guys thanx,im happy,having all of u guys here is a pleasure;)

10-12-2005, 07:37 PM
hey nice concept and a lot of great progress ! ! ! :) .....nice to see here with a great skill in


i prefer the first one (the biger) but still not agree with the color and shader(my opinion)

good luck:thumbsup:

10-12-2005, 08:00 PM
Cool,that's Great ali...i prefer First,because the second one Shows a little of Magic and that kinda stuff too...if you wanna be mysterious go for the 2nd one...Good Luck

10-12-2005, 08:04 PM
The second appear more vicious... then... it's better :twisted: haha

10-12-2005, 08:18 PM
Wicked! and well integrated into the style you're running with throughout! Matbe a little more exaggeration on his chins will add to his look? LYW:applause:

10-13-2005, 07:53 AM
Hi nice need a little sss . good luck :thumbsup:

10-13-2005, 08:31 AM
Why didn't I see this thread before?
Excellent work U've done here Ali !
I really like your Zbrush skills and your particular design !
Great characters !
I will follow this now !


10-13-2005, 09:15 AM
nice work ali.Good luck

10-13-2005, 11:00 AM
simply amazing work.. love the texturing! ..

keep it going

10-13-2005, 11:30 AM
Hello Madlight, what a fantastic updates.
Your work is going very very good.
Damn, one day I have to do some experiments in zbrush.

10-13-2005, 09:22 PM (

hey guys,thanx for voting! i finally decided to choose the first one,cuz the second was too negative! and i want a JERK AND FOOL person,+some negative personality added! the pose says the negative,the eyes helps the jerkish characterisitc!
i havnt textured the face yet,thats just a skin bumb,ill be doin it,when im pleased with the model,
si and si? :D

10-13-2005, 09:34 PM
Great looking char_d-sign.. 'Impressive cheater' The eyes work just fine indeed..
You are building one great main-character, keep going! :thumbsup:

10-13-2005, 09:41 PM,Thanx, about ur entry?any chance?any time?
3rd user,Thanx for the advise,i agree! u see?!
Lemog,Thanx man,i know,but how about the fool lookin horserider with his ridicluse idea about his poor goodold horse?
DaddyMack,thanx mate,ur right,im working on details like that,currently!
ali_rahimi_3d,thanx,ya,its not shaded yet,just a quick test! thanx anyway
gpepper,urs is great too! thanx for the suport!
Versiden,Thanx man,ur entry is amazing too!
claudio_jordao,thanx mate,sure! u must just experiment this tool!

so much thanx for all the support,

10-13-2005, 09:58 PM
hey this is turned nice :bounce: ...... cool design for now......about me ?:shrug:.....i don't know ! i am trying my best to try mine but as you know i going to travel and i have to finish my projects in my hand as soon as possible.....don't worry i will try my best (i would if i could but i can't so i wont) :D

good luck ali

10-14-2005, 05:44 AM
I've taken a close look to find something to criticise:curious: - just to help of course :) - but there is nothing:shrug: . Love it all:thumbsup::thumbsup: !! Great character!


10-14-2005, 06:09 AM
be proud of you Ali...

be proud of you Ali...

be proud of you Ali...

be proud of you Ali...

be proud of you Ali... :bowdown: ( and stop the challenge now... :scream: hahahaha )

10-14-2005, 06:16 AM
nice style :)

10-14-2005, 09:41 AM (

hey guys,its textured,finally,helmet bands and stuff are left...

10-14-2005, 09:43 AM (

here's a closeup!with eyes!

10-14-2005, 09:48 AM again! thats a good news! is it fo a CG job? great! congrats Yasser,wish u goodluck where ever u are!:thumbsup:
daWinky:lol,Thanx man! ur so kind!:)
Lemog,heyy! Lemog,i really get charged wherever u put a post here!thanx maaaan!:buttrock:
(o)ne,Thanx Stepan!:)

10-14-2005, 11:31 AM
nice job ali.....great texture.....refer to my espectacular thread Pls i explaned it..:scream:

10-14-2005, 11:41 AM (

CLICK ON THE IMAGE FOR A HIGHER RESOLUTION.The rendered and reouched version is bigger,but it must be up to 150kb! so,...!
hey guys,some new updates,lips refined and textured,eyes refines,and teeth added..c&C?

10-14-2005, 11:43 AM
creepy looking guy... :eek: but funny... :bounce: he is gonna look good on his horse...

10-14-2005, 12:21 PM
you know what you are doing man. the character is crazy. only thing i dont like is the left incisor i had modelled it in same size like the right one but thats nitpicking. excellent work ali!


10-14-2005, 01:16 PM
Oooooooooooooh nooooooo... stop now man... incredible level now... and many thanks for awesome creepy version of this guy :thumbsup:

10-14-2005, 01:26 PM
wow/// that's Surprisingly cool....:thumbsup: goodluck

10-14-2005, 08:53 PM
makaron,Lemog,3rd user:So much thanx for all the support guys,u are really kind!!:blush: :wavey:
Jed D,Thanx man,ur right! i'll fix that in the next update!:bounce:

Thanx guys,for all the support,ill be back soon!

10-14-2005, 08:58 PM
just curious are you going to upload today?

10-14-2005, 11:28 PM
Hey ALi....Man you have MAD modeling and texturing skills. Loving every update.can't wait to see what you have in store for us next. keep up the good work.


Check your Email, I sent you mail.

10-14-2005, 11:56 PM
This thread smells good the masterpiece.. I wonder why? :shrug: :rolleyes:

Insane job, i hate you ! :D

10-15-2005, 06:10 AM
Excellent texture on it ! some mrgb somewhere...
Great Ali !

10-15-2005, 09:57 AM
hey! am surprised with these nice words,guys!3rd user,N_krypsh_N,Goul,gpepper,:so much thanx guys,for all the support!

bout the update,i dont know,cuz,im a little bit busy today! but i'll try my best! thanx again...;) :buttrock:

10-15-2005, 10:14 AM
Wow awesome modeling & texturing :applause::applause:

Great work so far. I like this hilarous idea :thumbsup:

10-15-2005, 05:21 PM (

hey guys,here's a little update,eyebrows,facial hair,and some un-noticeable texturing touch ups,like the redness around the eye,and some sweat(i donno know if its the correct word!)on the forhead which is not noticable in this angle,the left view would show this better,thanx again for all the support,any c&c?


10-15-2005, 05:31 PM
Nomad,Thanx man,ur entry was really cool too!:) :beer:

i forgot to add,

PLEASE vote this:
1- the previuos update was better(with no facial hair,and eyebrows)
2-Current update,looks good and facial hairs and eyebrows are set!

OFCOURSE tell the reason too!:)

10-15-2005, 07:31 PM
ha ah ah a ... the update is funy ..... it change the whole characterisitic of him....let me tell you that the face is modeled so powrefull and i think it dosen't need any haire or eybro .....i prefer the first one :scream:

10-15-2005, 07:57 PM
i can Tell you, your Character has Aged Alot, at least showing it...
it's really hard to choose. i guess,Based upon the Concept, your Cheater is gonna be a little Young, i dont know alot about Horse riders and stuff but i guess they should be young. although you might have a message behind your scene by showing a Middle aged and experienced Cheater....
i cant vote...both are great...Keep it up Ali:thumbsup:

10-15-2005, 09:42 PM
Hey , You have done a very good texturing !! Bravo ;)
In these cases , I choose the first(no hair) . but with a better hair system , I like him to have eyebrows . (I don't like zbrush hair ). but just eyebrows !!

Wish you luck .

King Regards.

10-15-2005, 09:58 PM
I think he should have more scraggly facial hair and maybe a balding buzz cut. Great work so far!

By the way, how do you upload an image such that you can have it be clicked on and a larger resolution version can pop up like that?

10-15-2005, 11:24 PM
I must say I prefer the first also. Eyebrows look too fuzzy, but the rest of the facial hair is not bad. From what is visible in this render, the sweat looks great. All in all better without the hair though, in my opinion.

oh and btw, could you post the texture map of the cheater?

10-16-2005, 09:23 AM,Thanx man,i have got a new desicion!
3rd user,Absolutely! good suggestions,ur right,i have a new plan!
-REZA-,Thanx! yeah i knew about that! u dont like ZB HAIR! damn,i'll try my best,its not the ZB HAIR's most power! im not that good! ZB ROCKS!:thumbsup: :bounce: :buttrock:
gardogg,thanx,ur right,! nothing special! u have the resolution,forexaple 1100X900 tHEN IT MUST JUST BE LOWER THAN 150kb,Thats it,its uploaded and by clicking u see the actual size.:)
N_krypsh_N,thanx,yeah,sure,but ZBrushes default texture exports,are not readable easily! only ZB users may find something! ill do that for sure:rolleyes:

Thanx guys,ill be back soon,with new facial and stuff....

10-16-2005, 10:04 AM
Hi.nice work
1.the fur is a problem as you know.
2.face anatomy is not correct (but its to late to say that :) ).
3.texture is good just a little bit more sss is better.
good luck man :thumbsup:

10-16-2005, 10:49 AM

thanx for droppping by,about hair,its solved by now,sss will be simulated in the finaal shot,cuz ZB doesnt have an apropriate SSS,and about face anatomy! would u explain what is face anatomy,and in a cartoony model like this with this exaggeration,what can a problem be? im really curiuos to know,whats wrong with the head!
here's some new updates,,,

10-16-2005, 10:53 AM (

as u guys,wanted to see the texturemap,here u are,i said that there;s nothing cool or noticable! its the kinda UV unwrapping which ZB does,and by now its not nessecary for me to import the model in another 3d app,like Max,and render it to texture.

10-16-2005, 10:56 AM (

here's a screenshot,i though it's good to be shared!

10-16-2005, 10:59 AM (

here's a closeup with more clear details...

10-16-2005, 11:02 AM (

hey guys,here's an update,after an hout tweaking the possiblities and choosing the best,iv chosen this,and to me its ok,any c&C?

10-16-2005, 11:15 AM
I like his sneaky, green eyes... :thumbsup: and the eyebrows are ok, but Im not so found of the "beard".. but thats me...

10-16-2005, 02:45 PM
that's alot better...specially the texture, you have made it better...:thumbsup: Keep Goooooing

10-16-2005, 04:55 PM (

hey guys,here's an update,after an hout tweaking the possiblities and choosing the best,iv chosen this,and to me its ok,any c&C?

Excellent !
I didn't understand, do render in Max or in ZB ?

10-16-2005, 05:24 PM
makaron,Thanx man!(i know ur female!take it easy!)

3rd user,Thanx,buddy!
gpepper,Thanx,mate..everythings done in ZB,rendering too,just teeth are done in max,and alittlebit retouch in photoshop....

10-16-2005, 05:40 PM
hey mate, i keep looking at your thread, but just dont know what to say ..... its so bizzare im speachless.... (thats a good thing by the way)

keep it up :thumbsup:

10-16-2005, 05:51 PM
ekkkk:eek: I'm just come back to this challenge and see your latest update ! very cool man! nice texture and great render! ahhahah I'm late ! I'm late !
do you plan to finish your work in max or zbrush?

10-17-2005, 03:52 AM
very nice madlight,your texture is perfect.:thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 04:32 AM
I don't know what can I crit Ali... nothing, I shut my mouth... just incredible... :thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 10:21 AM
eddieellis,Heh,Thanx maan,:)
monsitj,ouw! thanx man,im proud of seeing u here,its not as cool as urs!:)
Fredy,Thanx Mohammad...:D
Lemog,heey! i donno what to say too!:blush:

Thanx guys fo all the support!

10-17-2005, 10:25 AM (

hey,here's an update,
CLICK FOR 1100X768...
well,honestly i wasnt that convinced with the facial stuff,so i did 2 more shots,and here u go,3candidates,which one u prefer the most?! i myself prefer the third one,u?

10-17-2005, 10:30 AM
hiya Madlight_1988
i also like the third one mate! and first one is also fine by me! excllent work in texturing an detailing the character by they way!:thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 10:37 AM
if you ask me Madlight_1988... (as a female) haha... ;)

I like the third face... he looks crazy and evil on that one... :eek:

10-17-2005, 11:23 AM
The third of course... without doubt :bounce:

10-17-2005, 02:12 PM
yeah , the third is my choice! nice work! heyy! show us more!!:applause:

10-17-2005, 02:58 PM
Ha ha ha fun fun fun :applause: :applause: :applause:

You guessed my choice is the nr3

Great work :thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 04:23 PM
I'd definately go for no.2
Looks a bit like Gary Sinise. Keep going :thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 04:33 PM
great update madlight, nr 3 is my favorite, see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10-17-2005, 11:22 PM
I definately say 3. Looks more evil than the rest, and fits a cheater.

10-18-2005, 05:31 AM
yea looks nearly perfect now. the teeth are much better. go for #3 :thumbsup:

10-18-2005, 06:20 AM
How did you make those face hair whiskers? Some sort of alpha fur map? Or did you model actual strands of hair and stick them in?

10-18-2005, 07:27 AM
3 definately.

10-18-2005, 05:26 PM
yunisirees,hey thanx for choosing man!

makaron,heyyy! lol,that was just a kidding! by "guys" i mean,people!thanx for choosing man!(:D)

Lemog,hey! thanx for choosing man!say again,thanx for the continouse support!:D

monsitj,Thanx man,sure!


MichaelMotion,Thanx Michael!:rolleyes:

alex.h.,hey! nice2cya here,thanx

N_krypsh_N,Thanx mate! i'll be sending u a mail soon,az khoone gmail kharab shode! bayad beram coffeenet!:D

Jed D,Thanx,man! i'll be adding some dirts again!thats really a clean,white! it hurts the character's evilness and foolness!

gardogg,If u have worked with ZB,its Fibberbrush,wich is modified a little,if u wanted i'll be giving a more detailful explaination!

Versiden,THanx,ur BIG frog really pushed me! that was a nice update! thanx for dropping by!

Hey guys,i have came to a Final conclusion,which i'll be showing u soon! some of u have forget bout FOOLNESS,instead of Evilness!:twisted: vs:banghead: ! ill have an update,this will be really the final!Thanx again....

10-20-2005, 04:05 PM
owww....long time no seee....:bounce: :bounce:

realy nice progress..i lke the way you're Doing your challenge....

and about the vote on NUMA 1.....(dont know why...just like him more)

Do Good and keep working...i mean Rocking:thumbsup:

10-20-2005, 08:15 PM
Great character... no 3 seems the best.. evil grins, so well implemented always get me.. gives him a lot of character...

10-20-2005, 09:15 PM
first of all, Sorry i couldn't reply sooner,loads of issues around....anyway i hope that it helps in some way.
|Let alone the lighting is different|
if you meant foolishness,not evilness,then you better not go for the 3rd one. the eyebrow is showing some potentials in evil being.
The one in the middle, it's in the middle indeed. some Young Pure Evil. i wont go for it either.
But...The first one,which is i guess just different in case of Eyebrow and a little of Beard is more kinda Decent and acceptable for both evilness and foolishness.after all,you did an evil looking model, it might be hard to expect a fool looking guy.
btw,i would really appriciate if you explain in detail the fiberBrush that helped you made the beard:) Thanks Ali!
And....Good Luck Mate:thumbsup: hope to see you on the Winners Page Soon!

10-20-2005, 11:18 PM
Hard to choice, but my favorite is the first one, then the number 3 and the number two last ;)

I just prefer the way you've set the fur in the first one..I think it's the version wich fit the best with the character :thumbsup:

10-21-2005, 05:05 PM
number one

10-21-2005, 06:00 PM
wow man, the texture job is very cool, u have a nice character here...ok im subscribing to see your next steps!:thumbsup:

10-23-2005, 11:22 AM
kmest,heyy! thanx Reza! i hope u continue urs,as soon!
icedeyes,Thanx mate,evillnes vs foollishness! this is the question! and ofcourse it might be more fool than evil! look how mad he is! poor goodold fatty horse!
3rd user,hmm,thanx pooya,absolutly! the next update will be the result of allof these votes! and ofcourse personal vote counts as 2! about Fiberbrush,its a tool in ZBrush,if u work with ZB,then im going to give u a full tour!:D
mosconariz,Thanx mate...
rattlesnake,heyy..thanx,i like my thread to be subscribed to more thaan 1 people!heh!

Thanx alot guys,tommorow is the day! damn,these days am really busy pisy! but,ok,ill update is soon,and thanx again for all the support guys...

10-23-2005, 07:07 PM
wow man, i couldn't think you would go for that's so evil,even more than the third,But i really like it.
about the FiberBrush, i'v worked with it a little and i have no idea how you have used it for your Hair. i would really appreciate it if you give me some insights:)
Keep it up Buddy:thumbsup:

10-23-2005, 07:56 PM
the third?... yes!

great model:thumbsup:

10-24-2005, 06:08 PM
nice work there,I like the character:thumbsup:
Eyval baba.

10-25-2005, 01:18 AM
Number 3 :thumbsup:

10-27-2005, 10:26 AM
hey,i was very very busy! and i'll be having something to update soon,my schedule is mixed up!
Thanx for all the support,....

3rd user,heyy! by that sentence i meant my vote is like 2votes! and probably the final will look like none of them!:D by the way,Thanx,sry i wasnt clear!

Maxter,Thanx mate!

Fredy,Thanx Fredy!

Climax,Thanx,fellow ZB user!:D


10-27-2005, 10:41 AM
Cool character job! Good luck with your entry!:thumbsup:

10-28-2005, 09:55 AM
The excellent character! This person very much impresses! )))

10-29-2005, 12:11 AM
Nice job on the cheater Ali. I just saw the change from the skinny version to this fat and hairy guy. Keep up the good work.

10-29-2005, 06:11 AM
I'm waiting for some big updates from you! Get to it! I understand if you are trapped under a load of homework though... That's where I'm at right now. *cries* Keep up the great work!