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09 September 2005, 02:06 AM
speachless enjoying your amazing progress. wow. keep on rocking Simon!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 02:42 AM
This was one of the first submissions to really grab my attention. Very professional illustrative style.

09 September 2005, 04:31 AM

Color looks awesome now! Looking forward to your new concept, this one aint no second stringer though.

09 September 2005, 07:29 PM (

Messing around with my next concept, even though I haven't finished my last pic.

09 September 2005, 07:35 PM
Tyrus_88 - Thanks. Hm, I'll have to find out how big machetes are. I'll get back on that one.

beelow - doh ;)

Spin99 - Thanks, final colouring yet to come (some time)

the1st_angel, 2tacos99cents, Jose Pardo - Cheers! :)

09 September 2005, 08:00 PM
mhhm nice colorscheme in the new one .. can say more when u go into a little detail :D

09 September 2005, 08:18 PM
Hot against cold background, seems to be working out good luck with it, holla!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 10:50 PM
Pff.... pfeh... hmph...

...typical...'re already working on your second piece... and I haven't even started my first!

...what am I gonna do Simes?!! I just can't decide!... It's too... open!...

... one looks interesting by the way...


...and if you get time... maybe you could bang one out for the new Epilogue contest! :D

09 September 2005, 02:57 AM
u are not gonna abandon the one in progress right?this new sketch seems to be potentilally good either~:scream:

09 September 2005, 09:53 PM (

A half hour more on my new(est) concept. You can't really see what it is yet, I know, but the kid's been taken by his father to view the rocket launch and he's dressed up as a rocket for the special occasion (that's what comes of listening to Kate Bush, although she wasn't singing about this particular type of rocket)

09 September 2005, 10:00 PM
Vahn - cheers, will have detail soon(ish)

beelow - Hope so, thanks! :)

Mythmaker - Yeah, pity it won't be judged on speed alone :) I'll check out the Epi contest ASAP, assuming the site stays up long enough for me to load the thread...

sh@ke - No, I'm still going to finish the monkey pic, just having a rest from it. Thanks for commenting

09 September 2005, 10:13 PM
I really like your new concept! Keep working on that one!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:32 PM (

Getting all the elements in. Can start on the detail next.

10 October 2005, 07:36 PM
Tyrus_88 - thanks, will do ;)

10 October 2005, 07:38 PM
sweet atmosphere, nice pic


10 October 2005, 08:44 PM
cool great work! I really like the colours and composition. Interesting design :)

10 October 2005, 08:49 PM
rats, like my starting concept .. but better

10 October 2005, 09:12 PM
That image is incredible. Very cool perspective and style. You've got some serious skills! Looking forward to seeing more.

10 October 2005, 11:42 PM
Squibbit - thanks Mr Squibbit

enialadam - Cheers. Colours should get better with time, too

Ranath - Not better, just different is all. It's actually No. 4 from my original 6 thumbs, with a few fancy rocks thrown in

gardogg - Thanks, more coming tomorrow, I hope

10 October 2005, 07:16 AM
Very intresting place to launch the rokets,there is so many cliffs.It is possible that rocket will hit the cliff and this is not good fo budget :D ....But anyway cool stuff

10 October 2005, 08:23 AM
Interesting concept but rather haphazard for a rocket launch, don't you think? :)

P.S. The child reminds me of this pointed hat gnome

10 October 2005, 08:54 AM
Still a little early to crit, don't notice anything yet, colors may be a bit juicy, but yu said you will fix that, and compo seems to be working well, all equals up to a great wip, will see ya next update!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 03:24 PM (

Made a start on the rock detail. I think it won't start to look "spectacular" until the cloud detail is in, cos this will (hopefully) really push the sense of scale.

10 October 2005, 04:21 PM
Wow! What can I say. Seems quite eerie with the smoke from the rocket in between the rocks. The huge planet in the sky, the scale, the perspective and the colours make this a seriously great piece I think. Waiting impatiently to see more!! :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 04:21 PM
hehe an interesting job. Your albino gorilla was interesing too. Iīll see your progress on this new project. Good luck!!:thumbsup:


10 October 2005, 04:49 PM
Nice stones and colors!


10 October 2005, 04:59 PM
This is great. Reminds me a little of the Final Fantasy movie. I really like the lighting in this piece and the details on the rocks. Good luck!

10 October 2005, 05:23 PM
Looking very nice Simon! It has a real feeling of size and imposingness... ness... er....

10 October 2005, 08:05 PM (

That's it for today. Didn't get as much done as I'd hoped. Some more detail on the rock + testing out cloud texture (far top right). Not using any refs cos I want it all to look other-worldly and weird.

10 October 2005, 08:13 PM
sepi - Thanks. And don't worry about the rockets, they'll be just fine.

jeromoo - You've picked up on sepi's concern over the rocket launch. Trust me, they've got it all covered, they had a dry run and everything. Houston, we don't have a problem. Thanks for the comment. And the gnome.

yAdam - Eerie is good, I like that. Hopefully it will retain its eeriness when I've done all the mist swirls.

Gonzalo Golpe - Oh aye, me monkey. Forgot about him, I'll have to finish him soon.

p4b10 - thanks

angwa_falmar - Cheers. Never seen FF, but it sounds like a cool comparison.

Poshspice - Why thank you, your royal Spice-ness-ness

10 October 2005, 08:22 PM
Great work, I like it! This is much better than White Gorila, I like monumental character of it.
Means backgrund with planet and this rocks.

Keep great working! :applause:

10 October 2005, 08:24 PM
Seems like it is coming together now, great stuff so far, very nice atmosphere, holla!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 06:31 AM
Absolutely stunning, your composition and color use are masterful. I realize you are still refining a rough layout, but if i'm allowed one nagging suggestion it would be to weave some smoke through the rock formation on the very right or lighten some of the clouds behind it a touch. Very subtly it seems to stand out to me like its not part of the other rock formations, can't quite place what it is exactly. Anyway good luck, this is a very strong piece and I can't wait to see it more refined.

10 October 2005, 11:35 AM
one of my favorite

10 October 2005, 02:48 AM
quite a captivating piece right there. great stuff. :) keep going.

10 October 2005, 03:40 PM
wow! amazing work. This is coming along beautifully!

10 October 2005, 04:01 PM
wonderfull new attemp. still excited watching your show :scream:

10 October 2005, 04:58 PM
those rocks look amazing, i give u 12 hero points for that


10 October 2005, 06:51 PM
this is painfully good!! wow:scream:

10 October 2005, 01:04 PM
The textures are mind blowing, the colors are mind blowing, the movement is mind blowing! :eek:
Love the dreamy look to it.
Not sure if this is useful, but check out this movie "Kumo no mukou, Yakusoku no basho" (Beyond the Clouds, In the Promised Place, english title "The Place Promised in Our Early Days").
You can check out a trailer here:
(site: < the 3rd trailer from the top there)
The trailer doesn't show it that much, but the last few minutes of the movie where the main characters soar around this tower reaching past the clouds high in the sky is breathtaking.

10 October 2005, 03:28 PM
I just love the way you get to see all the details emerging from your pictures. This one especially started out as such a random mish-mash its really exciting seeing sense develop from the madness. On a side note, I like the picture too...

10 October 2005, 09:40 PM (

Adding more detail at random. Keeping the best til last (clouds and foreground).

10 October 2005, 09:51 PM
rawwad - Thanks, I definitely will keep at it

beelow - hope so, cheers

MasonL - Yep, will be working on the mist and cloud later. Thanks

grobouk - Nice one

Slav - Cheers, will do

enialadam - Thanks for the encouragement

the1st_angel - Cool, thanks

Squibbit - 12 hero points, nice one!

OrO - Ha, cheers

aoisabaku - Thanks for the link. Can't view it yet cos it would take 27 days to load on this connection, so I'll wait til I'm at work tomorrow

kboss - Thanks. Yep, all my stuff starts out the same way, like multi-coloured offal

10 October 2005, 10:05 PM
I don't have much of a critique for you but just wanted to add that your painting really did make me widen my eyes. It's a fantastic perspective and I love the composition. I love the colours too, so bold and bright! Excellent work :)

10 October 2005, 10:09 PM
Beautiful layout, that last one, Baron. Nice colors, nice perspective, very beautiful style!


10 October 2005, 10:18 PM
ach! - my tiny laptop screen won't show me the whole piece in one go! - I shall look at it at work tomorrow.

Beautiful rocks.

Make it rain as well (you don't have to - but I bet you can :)

10 October 2005, 06:18 AM
thats utterly fantastic. everynow and then i pop into the spectacular forums to view the top contenders. this is my favourite.

10 October 2005, 09:16 AM
Very realistic smoke...:thumbsup: Bright, beautiful work!
Good luck !

10 October 2005, 09:29 AM
Hi Simon,
Itīs quite some thread you have here. A whole lot of great concepts, some better than others but in the end they all deserves to be worked out.
Your last concept offers great rock formations and a great view. But somehow it doesnīt seem as spectacular as some of your other concepts (concept 5).
For now I think itīs more pleasant for the eye than spectacular.
:applause: Iīll be hanging around

10 October 2005, 09:41 AM
This looks awesome - I love the colors you are using.

10 October 2005, 09:59 AM
this image is looking great! good work baron you really make the impossible:bounce:

10 October 2005, 07:14 PM
I think you images are amazing.

Very inspiring, you lighting and rendering skills are just Sweet!

keep it up, every time I see your thread it raises the bar or this contest.

it's getting exciting!

10 October 2005, 07:23 PM

I think your work is impressive. And as a guy who is new to painting in general, im intrigued at your workflow. Do you have any pointers or advice on the process you use to begin a concept? Im mostly amazed at your concept thumbnails, and have tried to do something similer, but I dont have any luck laying out all the colors before I get into some of the forms.

Keep up the good work.

10 October 2005, 08:16 PM
Gorgeous! :D

10 October 2005, 08:25 PM
Amerasu - That's good to hear, thanks

walrus - Thanks v much

Avatarist - It'll be raining down in that valley, mark my word. Cheers.

Peddy - Thanks for the encouragement

Sergey Banityuk - Thanks, I'm leaving the smoke til near the end, I love drawing smoke

Norberg - Oh, it will be spectacular when I get into those clouds, trust me ;) Thanks for commenting

SONIC-X - Cheers

mannix8 - Thanks

Mr. Bobizzll - Thanks for that praise

2tacos99cents - Tips on concepts... no magic, I'm afraid, most of the time I just scribble until something recognisable emerges and then build on it. Perhaps one thing, I do them really fast, cos I think if you consider them too much they become awkward and contrived - detail can always be added later providing the basic forms are there. I'm really no good at form, which is maybe why I don't go for line-work. Re colour, I almost never return to the colour palette once I've got the colours down, I just colour-pick from the canvas. I find if I don't do this the colours tend to become compartmentalised, especially when I'm working zoomed in (the exceptions would be returning to the palette to choose very lights and very darks, cos sometimes this method soaks up on-canvas contrast)

lula_assassina - Thanks

10 October 2005, 07:42 AM
Heya Simon

Marley here, she is certainly starting to look fantastic alright. I caught an earlier glimpse about a half week back, well i can say you have brought the piece together really nicely.

I like how you paint your rocks using square brushes, I am learning lots by seeing your process, keep up the great work :D.


10 October 2005, 01:18 PM
Light Sovereign - Hi Marley, I would've recognised your avatar if not the name :) Thanks for dropping by, I hope to get another update posted later this weekend. Cheers.

10 October 2005, 03:31 PM
huh, thats looking great! much more spectacular than the previous one for sure. I especially admire details on rocks and back in the clouds. Very good work so far and I dont doubt it'll get only better :)

10 October 2005, 04:41 PM
Wow can't even cover it really. Amazing work, a huge inspiration. Can't wait for updates.

10 October 2005, 06:03 PM
I like your approach to painting this. Keep up the good work.

10 October 2005, 07:16 PM
HE WOW!!! This is a really beautifully rendered piece, I really love how you've used light in this one. Even more so the colour usage. :scream:

Quite astoundingly done! :thumbsup:

Going to watch your progress, excellent so far!!!

10 October 2005, 09:21 PM (

Some more detail on foreground and planet. Hopefully the real improvements will come as I do the clouds and mist, as they take up most of the picture. I'll leave the figures and smoke til last, likely as not.

10 October 2005, 09:27 PM
NinjaASSN - Thanks! I'll be round to look at your thread soon, haven't visited in a while

Red_Plague - nice once, thanks

pushav - cheers, will do

jmBoekestein - thanks for the comments, glad you like it

10 October 2005, 10:20 PM
Light Sovereign - Hi Marley, I would've recognised your avatar if not the name :)

Well, i'll be honest simon, i actually forgot i had an avatar at all, I don't frequent here often enough :P.

best of luck


[edit] holy moly, didn't see your new post, that foreground is looking sweet :O. the clouds are looking fantabulous, simon.


10 October 2005, 11:07 PM
WoW, great move, This looks better and better :scream:

I like colors, very much and details like clouds, grass and ...
Keep rocking :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 02:17 AM
Baron, your work to me, is mind blowing!!!

I love the colors of this piece. It's evolving into something very spectacular.

10 October 2005, 04:42 AM
I don't know why but this painting reminds me of Skittles, everytime I look at it, LOL!:D A lot of work done since I have last been here, great stuf so far!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 10:06 AM
Baron Simon! You sure show some skills. I love the way you use color. It's so vibrant! I think that is what I find most spectacular about your work...the lighting and resulting colors. Congratulations.

10 October 2005, 10:12 AM
Wow, very nice:bounce:

10 October 2005, 10:43 AM
I love it; Nice composition. Impressive colors and clouds. With a good work on characters it would be really great.

10 October 2005, 11:24 AM
Hi Baron. What i can say. Just like the oders. COOL Paint.
May be to many colors on the left but they work, beacuse they are armonic. The green grass I LOVE IT.

Keep your nice work and make some updates. I'm going to follow and see your nice work. :thumbsup:

xbo :scream:

10 October 2005, 08:42 AM
Hi! All this looks fantastic! You are very proficient in the use of colors and forms! Good luck!

10 October 2005, 12:19 PM
Your colors and technique are so Awesome! I could look at it all day long. There is one small thing that bothers me and I am not sure if its fixable or just me. The rocks in the foreground look the same in scale as the ones in the bkgd as far as scale. Maybe the formation the characters are on needs to be simpler?

10 October 2005, 12:26 PM
wow.. just wow. Can't believe i have not checked back on this for ages.... you have a winner on your hands me thinks.

10 October 2005, 12:53 PM
I love the clouds and lights in this one :)
Great work Simon!

10 October 2005, 02:51 PM
Simply breathtaking...

10 October 2005, 05:16 PM
Great composition, Lovely color choice and cool concept..
You're in my twenty fav! Keep it up.. :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:05 PM
amazing style, I love your work dude, best of luck!

iam new to cg painting,my work

10 October 2005, 08:00 PM
I love this drawing! You did a wonderful job! I love the colors and the detail and i really love the perspective and the depth! Great job!!! Great idea! :)

10 October 2005, 09:44 PM (

Done some more messing with the clouds.

10 October 2005, 09:52 PM
Light Sovereign, rawwad, remcv8, beelow, andreasrocha, anskrit, authentic, 2xbo, Atris, Jose Pardo (I'll fix those rocks :) ), W!L, Lady Medusa, Selvagem, MichaelMotion, paulthomas, nerdy ninja...

Thanks :D :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 01:25 AM
Wow! Will you add a fire work explosion in the air? That would be the icing on the cake.

10 October 2005, 02:33 AM
Wow! Baron I really like this. The clouds alone are spectacular! The colors are brilliant.

10 October 2005, 04:41 AM
How the hell do you do that? I love the natural stuff you do, rock/grass/leaves/hair/clouds/etc...
Seriously, wow!
Keep up the great work

10 October 2005, 09:31 AM
wooow! the color & point of view are great~! i like it very well~ :lightbulb

10 October 2005, 08:38 PM
that I can say to you? only very good luck, great concept and work:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 09:43 PM
Your work is the most spectacular imo. :thumbsup: Keep it up!
Tho the rock in the middle is kinda distracting. Should point to the rockets or I would just erase it, but as already said, this is just my opinion. I wish you the best. :)

peace, pete

10 October 2005, 02:17 AM
awesome puffy and cute clouds :) its simply a pleasure see you do this, still here, enjoying eyecandy :) keep on rocking Simon!

10 October 2005, 02:48 AM
I never mentioned anything about the rocks. Don't fix em. They rock!!! Just love to see updates of your work. T'is fascinating!!!

10 October 2005, 05:59 PM
Looking real good so far Baron. Those rock formations kick some serious ass!


10 October 2005, 06:31 AM
well it has the usual wide amount of colours, lots of puffy clouds and details but it lacks of something spectacular.
you should think about deleting the small ships and doing something more specacular/big into the middle (something crashing into the planet, meteor, ship, whatever or simply a big technical structure/wreck at the planet).

your m&s entry should have got at least under the first 3 so i wish you all the best with this compo. i hope it goes abit better this time.

10 October 2005, 09:02 AM
Havent had a look at this thread for a long time and I must say your progress is awesome.

Great work-beautiful.

10 October 2005, 03:29 AM
i love how you colored the rocks.. beautiful texture!

10 October 2005, 07:00 AM
Super stuff,
overall looks very nice,
but the man looks like his hat is a rock? it has the same colour/shape as some on the left.
unless he is suposed to be balancing one on his head as thats quite spectacular :scream:,

great work though,
keep it up.

10 October 2005, 11:31 AM
Powerful image :thumbsup: Much more interesting than the gorilla.
I like the small details especially the brige on the left. It helps to get the scale of the rocks.

I`m looking forward to see more great updates :bounce:

10 October 2005, 04:55 PM
Hey man! I must say that you are now my champion for winning this challenge.
It looks spectacular, more than spectacular. I like it very much, especially colors, clouds, rocks and grass :applause:


10 October 2005, 05:26 PM
I love your style, your textures... the whole image is majestic yet sensitive, subtle; yet awe-inspiring... damn, what you doing for dinner?

10 October 2005, 06:04 PM

Awesome! Fantastic! :thumbsup: You've got a real winner with this one. I can't wait to see it when it's done. Love your style and vision. Remarkable.


10 October 2005, 10:00 AM
reminds me of a poster that came along with the secret of mana game (best rpg ever! BAR FF7) Where the chracters were looking up at the huge mana tree.. so colourful and the same sence of wonder that this pic is producing.... keep it coming

10 October 2005, 10:01 AM
wow wonderful! This has progressed so well. I love the colours and composition. The details on the grass and rocks are amazing, very well done!!

10 October 2005, 08:59 PM
This is one of my favorite entries so far, nice work on the smoke and clouds, I also like the impossible rocks, reminds me of Roger Dean...

10 October 2005, 02:31 AM
wow this is very nice but color wise I only have one crit... the green forground where the 2 ppl are standing instead of it being green make it a lushes yello-orange... because the gren forground flatens the rest of the pic and I know ya want it to pop out so theres my 2 cents and good luck man :)

10 October 2005, 02:38 AM
great rocks, spectacular color.
good luck

10 October 2005, 05:29 AM
WwwwOW great Work!:thumbsup:
Wish you success...

10 October 2005, 05:49 AM
Awesome thread! Very inspiring paintings. Sorry if it was already asked but which application do you use?
Great job


10 October 2005, 05:48 PM
pushav - thaks for dropping by. No, no explosion, just rockets

Euphrosyne, SquishMe, kyokaisen, Herr_Alejandro, The Peteboy, the1st_angel, remcv8, Malachi Maloney - thanks v much

xeNusion - thanks for the comment. I'll be leaving the subjects alone, for better or worse, cos I want to keep the storyline. And there's no way in a million years I'd win a prize here, trust me, I'm just doing it cos it's fun

SONIC-X, Silveraxe - Cheers

IKIN - The finest rock hat money can buy, that's what it is. Thanks for the comments.

Nomad - Thanks

rawwad - Oooh, not a chance, but thanks for the encouragement

Avatarist, TMArtist, W!L, enialadam, Steve-h - thanks all

TwistedReality - Cheers. Yep, hopefully the colour will be improved in the next update

renton, adel3d - Thanks

zegritch - Cheers. I'm using Painter 8.1

10 October 2005, 05:51 PM (

Messed about with the foreground and colours, did some work on the mist, and a few other things.

10 October 2005, 05:51 PM
i love your concept..and most of all the takes my breath away..and the detail is great :thumbsup: keep it up

10 October 2005, 06:10 PM
Thanks for the info Baron, and wow this update is spectacular :eek:

Nothing to crit to me, I love the rocks and trees.

Again, well done!

10 October 2005, 06:37 PM
yeah, the whole green landscape in the foreground is really popping -- the depths are separating very nicely -- awesome

10 October 2005, 08:16 PM
you made it even better as the version before!!! no critics .... a w e s o m e.
I just love the colors, the design of the rocks, the grass, the contrast from the foreground rock and the clouds and the red rocks... everything. Its spectacular, and I like the idea behind it.
Now you will start with the next painting? there is still time until december you know :D
(btw I visited your website -> :eek: )

10 October 2005, 05:19 AM
This is simply amazing, Simon, what next?:D

10 October 2005, 05:24 AM
This is really shaping up to be a great piece! figures seem a bit flat(cut out looking), but if you develope their shadows, and you obviously know how to, it should round them right out. Keep it up!

10 October 2005, 05:57 AM
Wow! :eek: That is awesome! Beautiful colours, composition, detail, lighting... Wow! :bounce:

10 October 2005, 07:27 AM
Its, Amaizing Pict !... colours is great !
good luck with it ! :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:55 AM
It's a so impressive work. I'm looking for something to crit to improve the picture but d'ont find anything wrong. Love the colors and of course clouds/smoke. ANd also the little bridge on bottom left.
My favorite for the moment (2d and 3d)

10 October 2005, 10:36 PM
yep, pretty much agreeing with everyone else, beautiful mood in it, really dig your rendering style

10 October 2005, 10:38 PM
Very nice atmosphere. Good work :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 11:08 PM
damm great work! kind of intoxicating atmosphere, i can't think of anything wrong, it's to damm good :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:19 AM
Great comp man...

10 October 2005, 10:00 AM
I did'nt think it could be better than your first image... BUT HOLY COW... This one is top notch! I hope you win! (Only because I want a tutorial on how you work :D) Nah but seriously great work you would be one of my top few people who I want to win! Keep going strong! :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:57 PM
Simon, the latest concept and it's state now is absolutely breathtaking.
I was struggling to find some inspiration to work on my own entry but looking at your concept scribbles and progress brought my spirit back. I actually might work on my own again *crosses fingers*

The only little issue I can see right now is that the two figures look pretty stiff at the moment but I don't think I need to mention hat since I am sure you are going to work on them more anyway.

And I am going to kill you if you are going to answer to this and use yellow for my name..

10 October 2005, 06:50 PM
:banghead: Now why doesn't my entry look that good :hmm:

Simply fantastic Simon.... great depth and the lighting is really something

Not sure how I've missed this before, but after the amount of replies coming through email for your thread, I just had to have a look...

Simply Spectacular :bounce: :thumbsup: :applause:

10 October 2005, 09:25 PM
Oro - Cheers!

zegritch - No probs, thanks

markw7 - Glad it has some depth, I've spent too long looking at it and to me it seems, just... I don't know

M. Baumann - Thanks, and glad you like my site. I was certainly intending doing at least one more before competition end, but I've got quite a lot of stuff on so perhaps this really is the last...

beelow - Cheers

AM KITTNLITTER - Yep, the figures need sorting. One thing that bugs me at the moment is that they're not even looking at the rockets. When I've got a minute I'll redo them.

Lync - Why thankyou

HamsterFly - Cheers (love the name BTW)

authentic - Thanks very much

spyroteknik - Thanks for the encouragement

Levan - THanks

ori@r.a.m - Glad you can't think of anything wrong cos I probably wouldn't have time to put it right! Thanks for dropping by.

igorstshirts - cheers

Mason Roberts - I won't win, believe me, but it's great to have such encouragement and praise - thanks

Kyena - That's great news. When someone says they get inspiration from my stuff I can barely believe it (what, like, mine?) but if it's true then that's wonderful. And yes, the figures will be history soon

... and please don't kill me, I had no choice... :twisted:

MrFreeman - Thanks very much, appreciated

10 October 2005, 09:50 PM
Like everyone says... its simply spectacular! Great job!

About the characters.. I kinda like where they are looking right now. The rocket-Girl/boy(to me its a girl :p) seems so exited by the rockets and the man in the robes looks down at her(he is looking down at the child isnt he?) only caring about her happieness. He smiles when he see that shes happy(i stuck my hand through the screen with a mirror, i saw it! thats great depth!)!

Good luck :)

10 October 2005, 10:35 PM
Hi Simon, I just wanted to say that I'm loving it to bits. It's a feast for the eyes, no doubt about it. If I were pushed to give a crit, I'd say the level of detail is verging on being too evenly high all over. Buuuut, I mean, it's so chock full of gorgeous little touches - the contrails on the rockets, the milky nebula at the top, the shadows under the clouds on the planet, the bonsai shrubs, the oriental figures, the rope bridges ... it's superb, and since it's built up on top of a solid composition it just works beautifully. I like.

10 October 2005, 10:57 PM
wooooh this is my fav entry till now

the contrast of the colors and the detail is just amazing!

nothin to say, just awesome :cry:

cheers Kam

10 October 2005, 11:16 PM
Awesome work man!
Nice synthesis and awfully well done, with dramatic lighting etc.. Kudos:thumbsup:

Between your last two posts, I would keep the last rock formation and bridge , but I think the righ plane was more bold before, nowwith the trees and warm colours (although still very nice) imho it looses its punch a bit. It starts to look like a bonsai garden to me.
The smoke under the Γ rock is a tad too stylistic making whirpools.
In short I would make a diagonal from bot left to top right, and keep the right side as was in this post, (
and the left side as you fixed it in the latest post.

10 October 2005, 11:43 PM
oo i forgot to ask, what program are u working on?

10 October 2005, 07:27 AM
very spectacular baron :thumbsup: Maybe you should put some flames comes out of rocket.

10 October 2005, 07:11 PM
Great colours dude! I like it :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 01:19 PM
FrozZT - Thanks, glad you like it

Speaky - You've pointed out the one thing that I need to work on in all my images. I tend to stuff so much detail in there it sometimes ends up bitty. It's good that you pointed it out. Thanks for commenting.

Kamjar Fadai - Thanks v much

evanfotis - Thanks for that opinion. If I have time I might do some more work on the foreground, and certainly the mist.

ori@r.a.m - I'm using Painter 8.1

sepi - Thanks. The trouble with flames is that, because the smoke is bright white, they would be darker than the smoke, which makes them look a bit weird.

Xillion - Thanks

EVERYONE... Sorry if I haven't commented on people's images yet, I'll try to get around to everyone before competition close, you just wouldn't believe how long it takes to load stuff on this dialup.

10 October 2005, 03:55 PM
Great job, Simon, you've outdone yourself.
I'm not sure about the figures, the one on the right might be too stiff.
But the whole environment is just awesome :applause:

10 October 2005, 04:14 PM
I think that people said already what there was to say, I'll just add that I think I would make the upper clouds less detailed, make them rather blured into the atmosphere, that would pull out the rockets. And I agree with ARTOONATOR about the right figure - it's a little bit too stiff. But those are just details, the image is fantastic!

10 October 2005, 12:53 PM
Nice you have already done 2 Great pictures.. So you planning on the third one already? I know you are.

I personally like this weird space picture more. Not saying that the white gorilla is any bad, but i sense more spectacular athmosphere in it.

Keep up the good work!:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 02:35 PM
nice, original imagination you have. I like this composition...and the colors are great

10 October 2005, 04:14 PM
Baron - It's looking quite wonderful. Great colors and details all around!
I agree with Speaky and others about the high uniform level of detail, especially in the upper clouds, but at least aware of it.
I am also in agreement with evanfotis about the stlyization of the foreground whirlpools. I'm not bothered by most of it, but merely point out that the two foreground whirpools of mist come off as perfectly symmetrical, and just skewing/scaling/lowering one of them could easily make them seem a little less coincedentally stylized and a little more naturalistic to fit in with the style of the rest of the piece.

But that's all small stuff, it's coming out really well. Kudos!


10 October 2005, 04:18 PM
Beautiful entry Simon, love the colours and the depth. The theme is great too!

Congrats:thumbsup: :thumbsup: and good luck to you!

10 October 2005, 09:45 PM
Wow : amazing clouds and stone. The lighting is very good too.
One -very- small crit : the foreground seems a bit less contrasted than the rest of the pict.
Keep it up.

10 October 2005, 09:14 AM
Good work! Beautiful

10 October 2005, 09:48 AM
Uh...and I forgot: some high quality works are so lively that, just merely looking at them, you can quite hear a sound. This is just the case. I can clearly feel the roar engines driving the rockets into the distant skies. Amazing.

10 October 2005, 03:14 AM
amazing work as usual.respect.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: i'm sure you can paint everything in the universe.
anyway,love your new concept.very beautiful color and cool compos.can't wait for more.cheers.:bounce: :buttrock:

10 October 2005, 05:00 AM
your rendering skills are simply amazing. love how your piece grows and all those great details get in place. As you are one of my fav. painters, I simply wanted to thank you again for your great points you mentioned over in my thread, they been very helpfull and your crits and oppinion mean a lot to me. Keep up your great and inspiring work, keep on rocking!:buttrock::wip::beer:

10 October 2005, 05:13 PM
nothing to add except of another "great job" hehe... just had to stop by to say that coz I really love ur work. Waiting for the next amount of details :)

10 October 2005, 10:26 PM
ARTOONATOR - Good to see you over here, thanks for dropping by my humble thread. Agree about the figures. In fact, coming back to look at this pic after a short time away I think the whole damn thing looks stiff... I don't know, there's something wrong somewhere. If only I had the time...

angwa_falmar - Yeah, you're right about the clouds. Thanks for the comments

Falcor_ - If I get time, I'll do another and scrap this one. Or rather, I'll repaint this one to be more realistic. How long now, 50 days or something. There must be time...

asparta - Thanks

walrus - Cheers, I appreciate your crit. The wisps of fog look like an old dude's moustache, no? Yep, they gotta go too.

thierry2005 - Thanks

Arctis - Thanks for commenting, good point about the contrast

Sergey Banityuk - Cheers

Xillion - Thanks, that's a great compliment. Strange too, cos whenever I look at certain views or landscapes I sometimes hear sounds too.

xric7 - I'd love to be able to paint everything in the universe, but I'm not quite there yet. Thanks for your comments

the1st_angel - Thanks a lot, and glad I could help

NinjaASSN - Thanks, hopefully I'll get the final update done in a week or so

10 October 2005, 12:43 AM
Looking absolutely fabulous. One small crit though if I may: the vortices in the misty rocket trail seem too symmetric. Did you intend it that way? I wonder if you could break them up a bit.
Apart from that, bloody excellent!

11 November 2005, 02:24 PM
wow! amazing and absolutetly spectacular!

11 November 2005, 11:14 PM
man that's awfully good, you are the my opinion, so far, i haven't seen all yet. Good job!

11 November 2005, 12:41 AM
Are you planning on doing another painting, or you just gonna not do the next one?:curious:

11 November 2005, 06:49 AM
Baron Impossible,


Startling detail and color.

With that much skill, you could easily make the rockets a bit larger and scratch in extra character.

Your albino kong joined the space program, after pummling Indiana Livingston with one of his associate's kneecaps, no doubt.

Inspiring entries. Both of 'em. :eek:

Hopefully you get the urge to do one more, and complete your trilogy. Maybe try something with a massive cityscape and . . . uh . . . mechanized weasels with jetpacks and gas masks.

That'll tie everything together. Sure.

Beautiful entry. :bounce:

11 November 2005, 02:16 PM
Looking realy great.When can we see more?

11 November 2005, 12:58 PM
have a look
or - looks familiar doesn't it? :))

11 November 2005, 01:33 PM
Thanks, people, loads more thumbs to come :) The more I think about this theme, the more difficult it appears.


11 November 2005, 06:39 PM
The color work is fantastic, i'd say spectacular but i've read it too many times and its starting to lose its meaning. Either way, the overall composition is excellent as well. One of thes best i've seen for this competition.

11 November 2005, 06:54 PM
What can i say about your work?! I would like just to say you that your work impresses me. very very good composition.. i wish you best luck for the challenge man.:buttrock:

11 November 2005, 06:58 PM
Damn, I forgot all about this. And I don't even like it any more. It's a cruel world and no mistake.

SquishMe - Yep, you're right. Thanks for commenting.

pleatsmaster - Thanks

noelt - Thanks for the vote of confidence

beelow - Hm, I'll be lucky if I get this one done. I'm just planning to spend half an hour sorting it, then decide if I want to submit. Not enough hours in the day...

ravioli_rancher - Thanks, I kept the rockets small just to give an impression of scale. Still, I understand what you're saying. Unfortunately I won't have time to do another... until the next comp, of course. Interesting screen name BTW.

SONIC-X - Good question. Thanks for dropping by.

Mortimmer - A Russian CGTalk, eh? Wonders will never cease. Good job I didn't post a picture of a fairy or an elf or else you'd have to post 60 million links.

Ste7en - I know what you mean. Thanks a lot.

11 November 2005, 07:17 PM
Fiolka Alexandre - Thanks v much

11 November 2005, 07:38 PM
Impressive texture work !

The 2 characters need to be contrasted a bit, darker I would say.
But that's minor crit.

11 November 2005, 08:40 PM
amazing work mate.. i could only wish to pull off something like this... spectacular for sure.. u have to ahve a winner here again...

11 November 2005, 09:06 PM
dam...this is a winner



11 November 2005, 11:09 PM
ooooo greaT long shottttttttttttT:scream:

11 November 2005, 09:14 PM
Yeah, I know the feeling, I still have to work on my reel and class work on top of this contest, I am having a rough time getting time to finish my entry, while on top of that still trying to do research on just old masters paintings, I don't do that very much though! Hope you get to at least finishing this entry! Good luck with it!:thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 03:38 AM
Excellent work Simon. I love your use of colors. It shows you know something about photography as your use of light is dynamick and moody.

Now I haven't gone through the entire post but I'm guessing your latest image has something to do with an artificial world, that is to say one created by man or some other sentient being.

Very nice. I'm watching this one.


11 November 2005, 09:37 AM
Beautiful work, good colors.. I like stones

11 November 2005, 04:53 AM
simply elegant why idid i not think of somthing simple, good stuff man

11 November 2005, 05:37 PM
Wow… you’ve definitely put a lot of work into this illustration since I last saw it. I love the hazy smoke along the ridges of the rocks and the detail you put into the grass and trees on the lower half of the image. The way you have your cliffs laid out so that the viewer’s eye follows the smoke which then bleeds into the cloud formation is top notch. Beautiful fluidity and of course your colors are outstanding. Top notch work. - J

11 November 2005, 11:29 PM
It's beautiful! one of my 2d favorites to the grand prize! great updates btw- cheers

11 November 2005, 01:58 AM
Fine work,sir! Of all the thumbnail views at the top level, this piece stands out the most. And at full size, it does not disappoint. Beautiful colors. Wonderful piece.

11 November 2005, 04:59 PM
hi simon

once again - i really love your work - amazing stuff!

i checked out your website again - stunning works....... i love the ideas, i also voted for your last challenge entry as my favourite
u wrote on your website that u have been practicing art for only three years and do digital work, did u do also traditional stuff? its just that i cant believe i can get closed to this level
of art in such a short time myself....
i also am trying getting onto painting now- (just got a new wacom tablet) and i also try to learn traditional oil this year

do you have any more tips on how to get this amazing lighting and colors that u achive, i mean like do u study photos or somthing else and if u do than what, iremember u told me last time you influenced by this famous landscape painter i cant remeber his name now but u know who

cheers , omer

11 November 2005, 10:39 PM
Ahhh - its been a while since I saw this, and it is like a breath of fresh air... is it finished? it looks finished - its' beautiful. But it says Work In Progress? You initial sketches - the variety and swift approach is one of the first things I saw on this site that got me wanting to make my work more spectacular.

11 November 2005, 10:45 PM
I agree with Avatarist. What more do you need to do on this image? It already looks so polished. You've put us all to shame with your awesome work ;)

11 November 2005, 11:12 PM
Hey Simon,

Nice image , it has a wonderful feel to it.:applause: I like the scale of the characters too.

11 November 2005, 09:48 PM
Mecha Hate Chimp
- Thanks very much everyone, I appreciate all your comments
(omer-n - glad you like my site. Yep, been doing it almost 4 years now, but not really tried tradional yet - a couple of oil paintings is all, and they're rubbish. Yeah, I look at a load of photos and paintings (Albert Bierstadt is my favourite landscape painter) but light and colour are two things I don't really think about -I have the problems when it comes to human form and architecture!)

OK, I decided that I'm not going to submit this for the competition, for a couple of reasons ~ 1) I don't much like it anymore and I don't have the time or inclination to revise it and 2) I haven't been around here much, so it wouldn't really be fair to submit it when I haven't visited 99% of the other entries. One day I might tidy it up and stick it in my gallery or something. I'll try and make a bit more of an effort for the next competition, promise.

Thanks again to everyone who's dropped by this thread, and the best of luck to everyone! See you's later! :)

11 November 2005, 09:53 PM
You aren't going to submit your image! But...but...but... it's brilliant!

I know what you mean about not liking your image though. I can't tell anymore with my own image and I have looked at for so long that I don't like it either. So, this is when you have to listen to others: your image is AWESOME!

11 November 2005, 10:45 PM
what?!? hehe, thats a surprice! c'mon, stop kidding, quick post some replies to our threads (just that u'll sleep better), uploud a final version to the CGTalk server and won some prizes :D I stopped looking at my pic as soon as I finished it, coz I found so many things that could be better done, so thats completely normal. So, lets finish this now! good luck :)

11 November 2005, 12:29 AM
goood colors..good image

11 November 2005, 03:41 AM
I really like the colour here,and the concept you got ,the rocket totally match with this natural
what a great work
good luck!!:thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 04:30 AM
What are you talking about baron? :shrug:

You already finished your picture. If you dont like this space scene. Remember you already completed white gorilla.. Send in that picture.. Or did you already forget about it?

Youre having mental disorder :sad: .. Of course you will submit final picture.

Dont be silly about visiting other peoples thread. You have visited enough. Lot more than most of the challengers.

Anyway.. Its your call, but seeya in the next challenge!

11 November 2005, 05:08 AM
This is friggin hardcore the colors are amazing. Awesome work


11 November 2005, 07:46 AM
Your work is Amazing. I really get a sense of awe when looking at it.
Good Luck! I hope you win! :D

11 November 2005, 09:21 AM
Hello Simon, I'm shocked to hear that you chose not to submit. To be very honest, I didn't care much for your early concepts such as the white gorilla, but the image you have now is extraordinary! I know a lot of artists loathe their own works after or even during making them. It's totally understandable and I respect that. For one, I'm tired of looking at mine mid-way thru. The only difference is that yours is already finished and seen by all of us, so what have you got to lose? You'll just be doing us all a favour by not submitting, serious. So please reconsider, and if you don't mind, you can always give me your prize after you've won!

With respect from a fellow artist,

Patrick Lee

11 November 2005, 10:44 AM
Oh man... You are so asking for a swift kick up the jacksie!

There is nothing wrong with this picture - it's imaginative, colourful, dramatic and has a great sense of scale.

Only you could have painted it.

If you really don't like it, then at least submit your other one... or paint another! ;)

11 November 2005, 10:34 PM
Hey Simon,

less participation canīt be the reason my friend....this is definetely not the right sportmanship. Itīs your image and itīs your entry but you canīt build up two finished images and submit none. Just think about it, dude....donīt relegate this thread to a "WIP/Critique Thread".

There is some kind of responsibility to the other challengers who look up to you and your art/technique. What does this behaviour suppose to tell me? That I should stop painting for my own entry cause it isnīt worth it anyway? This doesnīt convey any motivation to anyone else here.

Sorry for the harsh words but thatīs something I really donīt understand.
Be proud of your work!



11 November 2005, 11:18 PM
this is getting good ha ha ha. he's kidding i don't think he will do it. i'm taking bets right now!!!

11 November 2005, 11:21 PM
if he's serious, why would he really do that???

11 November 2005, 11:22 PM
this is good. he must be doing this because he know's that this is the most spectacular piece, maybe to see the reaction. That is a good concept he's not gonna enter.

11 November 2005, 08:53 AM
Hi Baron Impossible

I hope you change your mind on the decision you have taken, but on the grand scheme of things one has to remember we are all artists, and throughout history many artists have destroyed their on work for one reason or another,

Francis Bacon : Bacon was disdainful of his work and destroyed the majority of it.

Paul Cezanne : He destroyed many canvases during bouts of black depression and returned home full of self-doubt rejecting his chosen career.

Georges Rouault : Rouault was such a perfectionist that he destroyed over 300 pieces of his own artwork because he considered them inadequate.

the list goes.on...........

the main reasons for distain are.......
1. Not satisfied with the work - 30%
2. Depression & self-doubt - 26%
3. Worries about persecution - 8%
4. Concern for legacy - 7%
5. Ritual - 5%
6. Other - 9%

I hope you follow the advice of your fellow artists....................Submit !

11 November 2005, 11:16 AM
Kazım Doku
Michael Chang
Galactic Flux
Pat Piper

Thanks everyone for your comments and advice. First, let me assure you I'm not doing this to create a buzz and see the reaction ( :eek: ) - I have made a decision and it's not going in :) Let me try and explain. For a few months I've been dissatisfied with my progress - I seem not to have improved in either technique nor imagination. I left this image for a while and when I returned to it, all it represents to me is a reminder of my failure to improve. Submitting the image will cause it to be entered into the judging, which usually lasts many weeks, and heaven forbid if I did win a prize (quite why I would is unclear) it'd pop up somewhere on the site six months down the line and I'd even have to write about the damn thing - the up-shot of it all is that this mediocre contribution would end up haunting me for the next 12 months, when all I want to do is forget I ever painted it! :)

Fahrija - you make an interesting point. Hopefully I've clarified what I'm talking about above. It's not about lack of motivation, or thinking that you're not good enough. Often it's not wise to push ahead if you're not happy with the way things are going (not you personally, I mean in general). IMO artists need to be able to make harsh judgements regarding their own work, during the painting process and also before and after. It's not about comparing your work to other people's, it's about judging what you yourself are capable of and using that as a milestone. In this instance I just don't see the point of submitting this particular piece because it falls below the standard I had hoped for and I know I could do better. To people reading this I say, if you're happy with your work, great, submit it, and good luck! But if you feel there's something missing, make a decision whether you want to go ahead with something less than your best, or take a step away and maybe do something different in an effort to improve for next time.

Of course, that's not to say I advocate routinely giving up in the middle of a painting, or giving less than your best during the painting process! That's a very bad habit to get into - always try to finish what you started. But what you do with it then is another matter entirely. If you end up with something you're not happy with, I say identify the problem and try to learn from it. That doesn't mean flogging a dead horse and chewing away at the same image. Sometimes work should be reclassified as practice, and the artist should move on.

patina - Some interesting stats there. I'm in good company :)

11 November 2005, 12:23 PM
Just a quick note, as this is one of my favourite pieces in the competition -

All of the reasons you have given to justify your lack of participation could just as easily be used to argue its' inclusion and are therefore void. I fully expect this piece to be entered and uploaded immediately... or I shall... I shall tell everyone... I shall tell eveyone you are a SCAREDY CAT...and..and a POOPY MOUTH...ahem - not really... I just can't think of any reason NOT to enter the piece.

*glances at watch*

*shuffles expectantly*

"Oh Baron! - You're Impossible!"

*storms out in a fit of ambivalence and mild confusion*

11 November 2005, 05:13 PM
Simon -

There's a bunch I could say about this piece, and about artists sometimes being too close to their own work to judge them until a sufficient amount of time has passed... but then, you've already got the point covered with artists needing to be their own harshest critics.

So I think I'll just leave it at this:
That must have been a tough decision to make, and you certainly didn't make it lightly. Sorry it didn't work out the way you had hoped it would back in the beginning, and best of luck... I hope the next one will be better, and more fulfilling. Best of luck to you!


11 November 2005, 06:50 PM
That must have been a tough decision to make, and you certainly didn't make it lightly. Sorry it didn't work out the way you had hoped it would back in the beginning, and best of luck... I hope the next one will be better, and more fulfilling. Best of luck to you!


I think Mike's response is very mature but also mild-mannered. I don't think you've made a 'tough' decision at all - its' a good piece of work - stand by it. I do however, agree whole-heartedly with his sentiments that follow and I wish you the same.

I'm sorry if this is straying into the personal, and I agree that everyone should be their own harshest critic, but I think that self-criticism to the point of incapacitation is just excessive. What you have produced is to a standard that most of your fellow participants would be hard pressed to achieve (I don't include myself among them - I am EVER optimistic ;-)), in that it answers the brief implicitly, is technically excellent and superbly understated.

While it is just a guess - intuition perhaps, I think that by entering this piece into the challenge, you stand to gain more than you lose. spiritually... psychically... impercieptibly??!!! who knows.

Well - if you don't enter it it's your business - but you can't say I didn't try to persuade you that you were wrong.

Moist regards
Ben Hooley

11 November 2005, 08:00 PM
I can't do much more than to post my agreement with others about the quality of this piece. On my very bestest-best-ever day as an artist, I could never hope to achieve what you have done here. And yet, for some reason you consider it sub-par. We are all our own harshest critics, but you far underestimate your work.

Best of luck now and in the future, and I eagerly anticipate what you consider to be your "good work"!!

PS - just went back in this thread and saw "Albino" - Oh my GOD! That is fantastic! Both of these pieces deserve a chance to compete. Please reconsider and enter at least ONE of them!

11 November 2005, 08:06 PM
hi baron,
i just wanted to add a little "really love what you have done to those fog surrounded rocks, the lighting is incredibly beautiful"-note.. :)

havenīt been here for a while.. iīm sorry to read that you donīt want to submit.. i like your work a lot.. maybe paint some horses (on another canvas) to get fresh eyes?

11 November 2005, 09:40 PM
Horses, Hamsters...

...whatever ;-P

11 November 2005, 09:53 PM
Simon, I respect you a lot as artist and I even respect you more now to make this decision.
I honestly think it's a pity but then we don't see all the flaws that you see if you have been working on it for a long time and if it stopped "being right".

I had the same problem with my latest commission but unlike you I HAD to finish it because it was paid piece. I know exactly how you feel therefor.

It's about pushing yourself and the urge to see some improvement with every piece you do. I can definately see how this could be disheartening to you. Even though the rest of us might not be able to see those flaws I can for sure understand what you mean - been there done that.

I can't wait to see another painting of yours coming to life - it's always a big inspiration :)

11 November 2005, 06:02 AM
Ok, I tried to sound nice, but now I will sound nasty.....

err...ok, I couldn't....but I'm not here to persuade you to submit again. On a personal level, your explanation was really heart-felt and I can totally relate. So my salute to you for possessing such artistic integrity.

ON THE OTHER HAND, what ever happened to SPORTSMANSHIP? If it's only about personal improvement, why even enter the contest? As artists, we always want to believe that we can do better. Who doesn't? I'm sure Michaelangelo felt like tearing down the sistine chapel if it wasn't because he wasn't doing it for himself. When you entered the challenge, your work is no longer private property (spiritually), you have exposed it to the world and owe it to all your fans and supporters for a submission. How can you expect the final winner to be happy thinking that the prize might have been yours? Don't think selfishly!

sorry, hope I wasn't too loud.....rant out.

11 November 2005, 08:02 AM
:hmm: Hey Simon

Interesting developments since I last had a look at your thread...

It's a shame that you won't be entering this artwork. I know how you feel when you've looked at something too much and I still cringe at work I've created in the past, but as artists we all strive to do better and each creation is a milestone to look back upon and see what we were doing a that time.

I personally like the piece and think it one of the most dynamic in the challenge (as I'm sure you are more than well aware of judging by the number of views to your thread.

Keep up the great work and hope to see you in the next challenge - I'm always keen to see other artists from the UK taking part :thumbsup: :applause:

11 November 2005, 01:32 PM
Avatarist - well, at least I stopped short of cutting off my ear... I appreciate you taking the time to try and convince me, but my mind is made up :) It's not that I think it's particularly bad, rather that I know I could have done better and participated more and generally applied more oomph. Thanks for dropping by.

walrus - Cheers for that, nice one! Good luck to you and hope to see you in the next challenge.

robinayles - Thanks for commenting, glad you like my stuff. I don't know about the "underestimate" thing, but cheers anyway.

dunkelgold - Horses! That's what I'm doing, voluntarily painting horses. The last one was a commission but I hated it so much I just had to paint more. Medicine that tastes bad does more good, we all know that. Good luck!

Avatarist - Hamsters are great, but it has to be horses.

Kyena - Thanks, it's kind of you to say that. Good luck with the comp, I'll drop in on your thread later (and hopefully all the others too)

Pat Piper - Heh, that made me smile. Grrr... OK, I'll submit it. Just kidding. If it was a small competition I'd reconsider, but there are sooo many people entering and so much great work that it really doesn't make a difference. The prize winners will all deserve their rewards, based on who did enter. If we worry about who didn't enter, nobody would ever be satisfied - there are art whales out there who could win any competition they took the trouble to enter, but I assure you, I'm not one of them! Thanks for commenting, though, hope to see you next competition where I will make an effort to be sportsman-like :)

MrFreeman - Thanks very much. Yeah, it could be a case that I've looked at it too long. It's like repeating the same word again and again, after a while it becomes meaningless. Maybe next time I'll enter later, and make a real effort to win 1st for the UK :thumbsup: :)

11 November 2005, 02:13 PM
Blimey Simon! That's a shock! Are you sure...? huh? huh? ;)

I know exactly where you are coming from. I have that kind of reaction to my 'Monkey Girl' piece for the Machineflesh challenge. I finished it with seconds to spare and submitted it with elements still unfinished and loads i wasn't happy with and it got shortlisted and given an honourable mention. I think they were being kind because of the oodles of preparatory work i did... but it makes me wince when i look at it because i can see all it's faults... and then they put it in the book!! AaaRgh!! (although i realised i preferred it printed... teehee...). That's kinda why i did a new piece for 'Monkey Girl' with 'The Chase'... as some kind of therapy...

You're doing some wonderful stuff, and i do like the surreal elements of this piece... Don't suppose you're tempted to knock something else out for next Tuesday?

if you're adamant about withdrawing, i hope we'll see you in the next challenge!

11 November 2005, 05:12 PM
hola baron first time i've seen thi thread .. and i'm sorry cause this is fantastic yhe colors are awesome,very beautifull,very poetic it remind me a travel that i do in peru in 2002..waitin 4 the final image..congrats!

11 November 2005, 05:35 PM
sorry baron i've seen that u don't submit the final image...mmm i can understand cause i have the same problem with my work..and i think it's impossible to be totally happy with a last work cause u know that you can ever do better ...personally i do graffiti since 1990 and 75 percent
of my work doesn't exist anymore and i have paint tousands of pieces all over the world but one thing i'm sure is even if i don't like so much my work in that or that period..i know there's always people who's havin' good feelin with that same work and that's what's happen now with your image ..u're not happy but i'm sure i'm not the only fan of your work... so don't pay attention to your ego and give the people what they want...

sorry 4 my poor english...

11 November 2005, 06:27 PM
I am sorry you wont be submitting your entry since I am a big fan of your work. It is your art and you do with it what you please. As for your progress, it is perfectly normal to hit certain plateaus every so often. It doesnt mean you arent getting better, it's just that the improvement hasn't quite made it to the surface yet. I look forward to seeing you in the next challenge.

11 November 2005, 09:22 PM
sorry baron i've seen that u don't submit the final image...mmm i can understand cause i have the same problem with my work..and i think it's impossible to be totally happy with a last work cause u know that you can ever do better ...personally i do graffiti since 1990 and 75 percent
of my work doesn't exist anymore and i have paint tousands of pieces all over the world but one thing i'm sure is even if i don't like so much my work in that or that period..i know there's always people who's havin' good feelin with that same work and that's what's happen now with your image ..u're not happy but i'm sure i'm not the only fan of your work... so don't pay attention to your ego and give the people what they want...

sorry 4 my poor english...

I couldn't have put it better in English and I am English. NOw please... just submit it.

heh. there is no brilliant quip I can make here... just do it. I prophecy vast magical power will be unleashed and subsequently at your disposal if you choose to hit 'send'.

11 November 2005, 09:27 PM
Thanks, it's kind of you to say that. Good luck with the comp, I'll drop in on your thread later (and hopefully all the others too)

don't bother - I didn't have the time to even think properly about the challenge :[
way too much official project and work to do. I hope I can join the next one..damnit!

11 November 2005, 10:10 PM
i completely understand your desicion, it's partitially an artist thing if you look at a work for too long, to start "dislike it" or loose the feeling for it. in another part, sometimes you come back to a work and it looks completely different to the idea you once had. sometimes better, sometimes worse. still I'm sorry to hear it happend to you too :( i hope you'll get back to it in the WIP section, or, you fight against the clock and try a final run like i did, i started from the scratch 2 days ago as well, in case you do that, best of luck, and... it makes those challenges great to have great artist like you here that inspire you and let you improve. thanks for this.
see you soon.

11 November 2005, 10:39 PM
duddlebug - Thanks for the support. Well, it shows that artists can't be objective about their own work if you say your Machine Flesh pic was chosen because the judges were being kind - pffff! It was picked because it was one of the best, is all. Anywhow, judges aren't kind, we all know that. Some are barely human :twisted: I wish I did have time to do another, but unfortunately I must paint horses. Life - and horse anatomy - just isn't fair

Jaba153 - Cheers, I appreciate your comments. I know what you're saying, but I'm weird like that and logic doesn't sway me much. Thanks again.

Jose Pardo - Thanks v much. You're right, of course. Like Draven says in "The Crow" - "Can't improve all the time." Actually, he says "rain", but then again he isn't an artist. Still, I think I've been too involved in churning out mediocre stuff at regular intervals than sitting down and learning and taking my time to improve.

Avatarist - Were you a mule in a previous life? Talk about stubborn :) Or is that me? I do like the thought of magical power, but right now I'd settle for being able to paint a horse's front legs.

Kyena - In that case, good luck with the projects and I'll see you next challenge!

the1st_angel - Thanks for those kind words. You make a good point, that sometimes the image doesn't match what you imagined, and for that reason it seems to lack something. I suppose that other people, who didn't know what you imagined, don't see this discrepancy, and maybe like it more because of this. I don't know.

12 December 2005, 06:17 AM
Pat Piper - Heh, that made me smile. Grrr... OK, I'll submit it. Just kidding

Ok, now that's a good......Damn....I was so close!

Anyway, it's nice to have met you. I visited your site and I finally understood. With a portfolio like that, who needs to win a competition. You are in a class of your own indeed. I admire your sensitivity to colours and your creativity. My favorite is the Fisherman, really top-notch work!

It's cliche, but despite what you feel about your work, I think heart is what separates the good from the great and heart is what I find in all of your work!

BTW, pls don't hate me for saying. The first piece of work I saw of yours was the Albino Gorilla. That was hardly representative of your drawing skills. The Gorilla has the anatomy of a Teddy Bear! Haha.... was I mistaken, and I slap myself for that!

If I wasn't so ashamed of my own work, I would've liked to share it with you.....maybe with a few more challenges and paintings under my belt I will.



12 December 2005, 01:04 PM
Pat Piper - Well, I'm happy you like my stuff. I have a loooong way to go until I'm satisfied with what I produce, but at least it's an enjoyable journey (apart from the horses). Thanks for those kind words. I'd be happy to look at your work, and comment if you like, feel free to send me a URL. Re the teddy bear; if only you had commented earlier - a rogue monster teddy bear would have been an excellent concept! Thanks again.

12 December 2005, 01:34 PM
Baron Impossible, c'm on man, just send the tiff file in!
It won't hurt, its doing justice to all the work you put into this image.
Didn't you enjoy creating this image?
I love it and so do most of the cgtalk guys.
Now, you don't feel its up to your level or something.
Everybody goes through these stages.
You will regret not sending it not the opposite.You will always have the "what if" after you...
I've seen many times, pieces I'd done and thought "no good" getting the best comments from others, and the ones I though "this is great" and was pfroud of, being dismissed, so you never know how it will work.
'Nough said
Just zip it an send it as is!

12 December 2005, 11:21 PM
evanfotis - la, la, la, not listening, not listening :) Honestly, though, thanks for your support, and I appreciate your comments, but I don't for a second regret not submitting. I think it's a good thing and it's giving me incentive to improve. I don't look on it as a missed chance, rather a kick up the arse for someone who needs to get into gear and move it up a notch.

12 December 2005, 11:35 PM
Submitting or not ..this is some real awesome image :bounce: :bounce:

12 December 2005, 02:10 AM
Do what you want, but this image rocks! Magic, beautiful and omg amazing color choice, i'm happy to see it.
Great work!:arteest:

PS: How many post you need to submit your final, i'm sure we can post as many as you want to prouve that this image is amazing! :beer: Drink some beer all night until you're drunk and then submit it, the next morning you forget all! ;)

12 December 2005, 02:34 AM
and I appreciate your comments, but I don't for a second regret not submitting. I think it's a good thing and it's giving me incentive to improve.

yea u could try a version with the space area being all sharp and mostly black , for example,
with the planet edge and the edge of the clouds beeing seen more clear against it.

no idea if you understood, or if it would be better, even if i knew what i meant, but since
there's time left.. haha

yhen there could be some fissures in the orange rock where smoke would pour through
and stream like a river below, where it would grow thinner and lighter and rise up again

and other stuff :D


12 December 2005, 03:04 AM
Baron, in my opinion, you will never be satified as a artist, you will always need improvement, that is the beauty of being an artist and doing artwork! Send it, not send it, your decision, mate, congrats on a great image!;)

12 December 2005, 03:30 AM
and if u didn't know u can always send it again later for as long as there's time,
so it's really the same :P


12 December 2005, 07:32 AM
hi hi

The piece has soul, though it may be blackened by hardship, it exists there waiting to be set free for all the world to see.

12 December 2005, 03:03 PM
o wow this is amazing man! i love ur color and mood in the picture! all the best man... i can sence ur position on the short list.... keep up the good works mate :bowdown:

12 December 2005, 09:13 PM
DimitrisLiatsos - Thanks!

SuperXCM - Cheers! Heh, there's no convincing me. Still, I like the notion of beers...

Squibbit - Hello there. The sky was black once, well - dark blue anyway, a dozen pages or so back I think. Thanks for your comments, but this one's going to stay as it is. I'll probably put a small version in some corner of my gallery and forget all about it :)

beelow - Thanks for that, appreciated

IceKatze - I like it when poets comment on my stuff, I do :thumbsup:

overcontrast - Thanks, glad you like it (shh, nobody tell him...)

12 December 2005, 09:30 PM
hey, overcontrast! baron is not submitting the image, opps it slipped!:p :D

12 December 2005, 09:48 PM
bah, ok so i totally misunderstood what was goin on,
i thought u was gonna try like all sorts of stuff with it to
the last minute, when it looked like finished alreay, d'oh

well now , as to not submitting at all, heh, right, not
much difference, it's a fine piece, but i can see u
hating it, at least for now.
What if u have to write an article about not submitting it ? haha.

i thought about teasing u more about this, but i gotta go to sleep :p

how about u submit it just for the peoples?

i'm gonna be haunted by kangaroos in my sleep


12 December 2005, 11:56 AM
:( I can understand why you don't want to enter it. It's a shame though, such a beautiful painting. I know what it feels like to loose interest in a painting. I kept getting interupted throughout mine, because of college work, and eventually I decided to quit because I just didn't have time to work on any ideas.

I look forward to seeing you at the next challenge :)

12 December 2005, 12:01 PM
beelow - Doh!

Squibbit - An article about not submitting, there's some food for nightmares. Thanks for dropping by, and watch those kangaroos, they can be so devious

enialadam - Thanks, glad you understand. See you next time.

12 December 2005, 05:15 AM
hmm speaking of rockets... i need to finish mine. :) looks wicked mate keep at it.

12 December 2005, 05:22 AM
hie baron,i'm sorry for the decision u've made,totally understandable,but u know what?this painting of urs are potentially a winning piece,u might wanna try,sending this piece as the final image,since it looks finished to me~see u around ya:)

12 December 2005, 11:40 AM
Hi there, Donīt know if youīve left this image for good but one thing that really bugs me is the size of the characters. Iīd like to see them really tiny, maby one fifth of their size. I think that would make the trees look more like trees and less like bonzais. allso it would give the scene a grander scale.
Besides that character thing this image is very inspiring. maby you will apreciate it some time too.

12 December 2005, 12:18 AM
If you do not submit it, i will kill myself and haunt you for the rest of your... DAY!

12 December 2005, 12:26 AM
Haven't given in to pressure then?!

Tsk tsk...

Oh well... that's one less top quality piece to compete with! :D

12 December 2005, 12:29 AM
Greate picture! your style is impresive!!! good luck!

12 December 2005, 03:27 PM
This is juz tooooo fantastic!! My idol!

12 December 2005, 04:53 PM
A magical pic with a great style

12 December 2005, 06:07 PM
Slav, sh@ke, Staszek, thaisoon, ilusiondigital - Thanks!

Norberg - Maybe I'll like it one day, aye. Thanks for the comments.

ogar555 - Ghosts I can handle :)

Mythmaker - Pressure? What pressure?

12 December 2005, 12:27 PM
Great! Especially I like the color. Good luck to you~:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 01:31 PM
Not a big comment, just my favourite for this challenge..
Outstanding piece.. :thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 11:38 AM
Hi! I think your decision is wrong, but anyway I regard it with respect and understanding. (It's hard to explain it because my English is very bad :( ). And I only hope this your decision will give you much more then even a possible victory in this challenge! I really like your works! I wish you every success and good luck! :)

12 December 2005, 01:32 PM
I had no doubt your decision was ment serious and I hope it still feels right for you.
Cause some things often can be estimated after the event.
I would have loved to see your final image among the others > Thatīs what I personaly
think about it.

kind regards


12 December 2005, 05:57 PM
Sean J, MichaelMotion, Atris, Fahrija - Thanks and good luck to all

12 December 2005, 06:01 PM
Damn, we are gonna make you regret you ever made this decision, mwahahahahahaha!:argh: :twisted:
See you next challenge dude! :D

12 December 2005, 06:09 PM
beelow - Nah, but see you next time, good luck

12 December 2005, 06:23 PM
you did't finish your entry? oh, it's so bad... it's a great paint... anyways... more luck in the next challenge...:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 06:42 PM
I do not understand your decision, but it is not my decision to make.

12 December 2005, 08:21 PM
i m sorry that you couldn't finish. See you next time :cry: :cry: :cry:

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