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09 September 2005, 12:37 PM
Chih-Han Hsu is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: Leviathan _ final image (

09 September 2005, 12:49 PM
Hi everyone! It starts again~ I've been waiting quite a while for this challenge now :applause: I'm also just started working as a juniour and gotta travel far to work too, so i'm not even sure if i got time to finish this one:sad: anyway i'm gonna give it a shot, it'll be fun. At work people use maya, max and zbrush. And since i've been thinking of learning maya i might make use this challenge to learn it. Might learn zbrush too, lol maybe that's a bit too much to learn :).

I haven't really thought about an idea yet, hopefully somehting spectacular.

I really look forward to this and i hope to see some cool artwork from everyone.

09 September 2005, 01:01 PM
Hi hhssuu, good luck mate;) I really enjoyed watching your M+S evolve and look forward to seeing what you do here...

09 September 2005, 01:26 PM
Hi , how are you , long time no see, I remember your emotional entry from MS , hope you bring it here again!

09 September 2005, 01:32 PM
Hi Chi-Han, good to see you enter again. Good luck and have fun!

09 September 2005, 02:07 PM
hey chi... good luck dude. looking forward to some good work!

09 September 2005, 07:27 PM
Good luck in this challenge:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:14 PM
Hi Chi-Han,
Thats good news about your job, sounds like you have some nice tools at the new job.
I look forward to what you come up with .

09 September 2005, 10:48 PM
hi everyone thanks for the warm welcomes, sorta busy atm :( still haven't got any good ideas yet, hopefully i'll have an cool dream and gimme some ideas soon. Anyway it's nice you see you all, i can't wait to get started. Cya.

09 September 2005, 10:52 PM
May your inspiration hit you like a giant wave mate:wavey: good luck!

09 September 2005, 10:51 PM
I've been thinking and had many ideas but none seem to be very original. Except i have one sorta really strange one, i donno if it actaully fits to be spectacular.

I had a dream once that i was waken up by someone banging on my front door, i ran out early in the morning and it was a neighbour of mine, a greek guy, a sorta big guy in a singlet. He rushed to get me out of the house, wanting to show me something. I ran out with him, and i saw thousands of birds (cocatoos i think) taking over the neighbourhood. I stared at them for a few second then realised they started flying towards us. The greek guy had a sling shot in he's hand and begain shoting at them, i had no weapon and began to run away...

This is really weird, although i sorta like the story, i might do this as an image if i think of nothing else. I would have to some how spice up the image to make it spectacluar though... please let me know what you think :)

09 September 2005, 03:36 PM
Well, thousands of birds taking over the neighbourhood sounds pretty spectacular to me!
Now, go and make some sketches of it :wip:

09 September 2005, 10:55 PM
Hi Gunilla, yer i should get started :) i sorta thought of another idea, doing a spectacular whale hunting scene. It seem quite impressive to see tiny man taking on the powers of the great ocean and a giant whale in crazy weather. But this will be such a rendering job though... sorry to keep people waiting i should be more definate soon :)

man i'm not very snappy with my ideas am i...

09 September 2005, 07:36 AM
ok i decided finally, i'm doing a spectacular whale hunt, the traditional little boat dagerous way. Simple idea but should be a fun idea to play with. I haven't even checked if anyone else is doing it, i hope not. There should be sketches soon :) yeah~

09 September 2005, 02:48 AM (

This is a quick sketch of my idea, i'm doing a whaling scene with a massive sperm whale. I think i would be cool to have the whale in rage with roped harpons stuck on the whale and lifting the boats and putting hte crew in danger. I sketch is a little dodgy atm, the details of the boat and crew etc is not decided yet, just a general feel atm. I should have better pictures later on. Feel free to comment thanks :)

09 September 2005, 04:02 AM
Looks cool. You could maybe even lower the point of view so that you show what the fishermen would have seen.

09 September 2005, 05:04 AM
Super sweet sketch! Looking forward to seeing your progress!

09 September 2005, 01:01 PM
Hey Chi-han,

I like the whale hunt idea and look forward to what you come up with, nice dynamic sketch there. Ar-lutik is doing something similar but I think you should be fine, here is his link.

09 September 2005, 01:07 PM
Very dramatic sketch! If you can catch the stormy mood it will be spectacular ... looking forward to the rest :)

09 September 2005, 02:06 PM
Whoa...your concept sketch blew me looks amazing!!

09 September 2005, 02:40 PM
Whoa that's possibly one of the best concept sketches in this challenge! Very well thought out and concieved, it should make realising this piece a lot easier. Ocean's a real nightmare for people like me... But you should have no problem!


09 September 2005, 07:15 PM
nice, looking forward the progress on this one!

09 September 2005, 08:32 PM
Great concept sketch hhssuu

Looks wonderful:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 10:59 PM
ChrisThatGuy: yeah nice suggestion, i'm not totally sure about the composition and details yet, i will do a few more sketches and play with your idea, thanks :thumbsup:

gardogg: thanks dude!

mmoir: lol i haven't really checked out a lot of the entries yet :) lucky mine is a dangerous whale hunt thingy and the other guy is a more plesent whale perfomance. Hopefully both entries will look spectacular :)

gardogg, Gunilla, Yongkiat, keetmun, SNoWs and Maxter: thanks guys, i'm very glad you like it. It's gonna be a big challenge tachnically and lots of modelling and rendering... should be fun. I hope i can finish it :)

anyway i'm still using max, i don't think i can do decent in maya yet, i'm just gonna try learn zBrush with this challenge... so my brain doesn't explode. Thanks for the comments guys, hope to show some more pictures soon~

09 September 2005, 12:35 AM
nice concept, very dynamic, powerful! way to go!

good luck!



09 September 2005, 06:47 AM
Hi. realy cool sketch. and good idea.its one of those good works. i am waiting to see the final image. good luck :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 11:12 PM (

This is another sketch... i played around with some simple geomety in max to work with the composition and doddled over that. Petrry similar to the last one... I think I've got a fair idea of the image now and will start modelling now.. yeah~ please let me know what you think, thanks.

10 October 2005, 12:07 AM
Hey Chi-han,

This second sketch is better than the first, there is more of a relationship between the boat and the whale:thumbsup: . Now , lets see some polys.:) Look forward to your modeling of this scene.

10 October 2005, 05:26 PM
I like the cyans in there.

10 October 2005, 11:05 PM
mmoir: thanks mate, can't wait to model too :)
dvelasco: yeah i like the cyan too, i actually didn't look at the first sketch and ended up with similar cyan on both lol, i guess it works. Thanks.

Yeah sorry for the slowness, busy at work lately. Plan to do some decent modelling this weekend. Please come check it out later, Cya.

10 October 2005, 10:50 PM
man... got a bad family financial problem atm... donno if i wanna do this challenge at such times... i might do it if it gets better. I really wanna do this challenge, already did quite a bit of reseach on it...

10 October 2005, 11:04 PM
I like your idea very much.

I hope you find time, cause I sure would like to see it progress.

10 October 2005, 07:04 PM
Greeeeeeeeeeat concept .motion is shown here perfectly.environment is nice.
This is my favorite.
Good luck pal,
I'll follow your thread definitlely.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 10:56 PM
Jesp: thanks for the encouragement man, yeah lots of things going on atm, i will try and find time, i would really like to see this picture complete too. Even if i can't finish it, i'll give it a shot.

adel3d: wow for my concept to be your favourate, i'm very happy to hear that man, your entry last time was one of the top and of course one of my favourates too. Man i haven't had much time or peace to do much on this challenge lately. I'll try to keep working on it definately. Thanks for visiting.

10 October 2005, 11:08 AM
Dude I really wish you all the best man, 'cause I really like your concept for this one, and I too would love to see this one cross the finish line.

Don't give up, do what needs to be done first, and hopefully everything turns out all right for ya!

Cheers from Keet Mun
:thumbsup: :buttrock:

10 October 2005, 11:17 AM
Nice sketch and cool concept.

10 October 2005, 09:23 AM (

I finally started modelling, haven't done much though, better get a move on. Pretty simple model, basically a bread roll with eyes and fins. It's not finished yet of course, please gimme some feedback.

Man i just realised so many people are doing whales, donno why...

10 October 2005, 10:08 AM
Hi ! mate , it's seem you 're busy like me , and I just start modelling yesterday too:bounce:
hey ! we're late! hahaha , your model look good so far , nice loop, keep goin man! good luck

10 October 2005, 12:18 PM
Great start for the modeling - good to see you getting started :wip:

10 October 2005, 12:26 PM
Hey Chi-Han,

It is good to see you started the modeling , the whale looks good so far. The basic shape looks accurate to me , good job and look forward to any updates.

10 October 2005, 11:21 PM (

Hi, i've done some more on the whale this weekend. I decided to add the details in zbrush to use as desplacement maps, the texturing is on the way (looks a bit sketchy atm) and i'll add bump maps on top of hte displacement too. Cos the whale is pretty big on the picture i hope to make sure there's enough detail. Anyway, feel free to comment.

... still behind schedual.. try to catch up soon...

10 October 2005, 01:06 AM
Hi Chi-han,

I don't know my whale anatomy but this looks very good:thumbsup: . Nice job so far and keep plugging away .

10 October 2005, 07:01 AM
hey man,
thanks for checkin out my entry!

Nice concept and idea.
Have fun & Find luck!:D

10 October 2005, 05:41 PM
Hey Chih-Han very nice model... i'm looking forward to see your wip:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:46 PM
Marvelous work hhssuu, I'm anxious to see your whale in the water.

10 October 2005, 11:04 PM
Sorry i forgot to reply to after my previous post too :) i reply them now.

monsitj and Gunilla and mmoir:thanks, yer slow start, hopefully things go smooth and i get it done. Thanks for visiting :)

mmoir: yer the sperm whale anatomy is kinda weird but i like the details in it and it's the bigges whale with teeth so i chose this whale.

tuck: thanks for visiting mine :D look forward to checking yours out soon.

Maxter and claudio_jordao: thanks man, i'll do my best to update soon.

10 October 2005, 10:54 PM (

Sorry i haven't posted for a little while, I sorta gave the whale a rest and started on the boat. Fairly simple model with a many little parts stuck on it. Still to add the harpoons, the sail and many little buckets and tools. The boat looks a bit clean atm, will be adding rough wood grains etc with bump maps in zbrush.

C&C are most welcome :)

11 November 2005, 04:00 AM
wow , nice boat man! good modeling job so far!

11 November 2005, 11:05 PM (

Here's a simple model I did up to zbrush, i'm basically going to do up a Universal whaler in zb, then i will pose the sdiv1 mesh in max to change the model form in zb then make changes on each model for my whalers. Just the basic mesh to show atm, i aslo UV maped this dud so i can texture in zb. Feel free to comment :)

11 November 2005, 07:11 AM
I love your modeling skills... you make it look so easy!
The boat have very nice lines and the lowpoly human is looking good too - can't wait to see what you do with Zbrush. :thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 10:56 PM (

monsitj: Thanks man, still got a long way to go :)

gunilla: Thanks man, my modelling skills are "ok" still like to improve, as we all do :) thanks for visiting

Hello, here's the complete model of the boat (i think), i've just started to texture it. It should have enough detail to hold up in the image (the boat will not take up too much space). Feel free to comment thanks for visiting.

11 November 2005, 11:59 PM
hi man, your work its very interesting, the models look great, i hope you´ll get the time to finish, good luck.

11 November 2005, 07:56 AM (

Here's a little bit of modeling on the universal whaler, not much really, C&C are welcome.

11 November 2005, 11:00 PM (

Hi no time no update :), i did a rush job texturing the boat over the weekend, it's a bit rough at some areas but should hold up for the size on the image, it's got no shading on it yet just a plain defuse. Comments are most welcome.

11 November 2005, 08:45 AM (

This is a bit model zb on the whaler, still far from correct, and the hands and foot and face are still "blurry", comments are most welcome :)

11 November 2005, 09:28 AM
nice anatomy! for me it's not far from correct!:cool::cool: good job Hsu!

11 November 2005, 08:00 AM
monsitj: thanks man, my thread is so quite good to see you still replying :) i'll keep working to have new updates soon.

11 November 2005, 04:54 PM
Nice modeling work chih-han, good progress on it:thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 06:20 PM
Very good updates! I'm especially fond of your boat texturing... really nice. And now, go, go, go - there is not much time left :wip:

11 November 2005, 10:33 PM
Maxter: thanks man :)
Gunilla: hehe thanks, i did quite a rush job good to hear you like it :) yer time is running short, i'm not sure if i can finish as well i would like to but i try finish it :) your entry is always good managible size i should learn from you and not stress myself out trying to do too much :D

11 November 2005, 11:45 AM
Gunilla: hehe thanks, i did quite a rush job good to hear you like it :) yer time is running short, i'm not sure if i can finish as well i would like to but i try finish it :) your entry is always good managible size i should learn from you and not stress myself out trying to do too much :D

Do your best to finish - and next time, try a smaller scene. I never know in advance how much free ime I will have for this, that's why I do manageble scenes... this time I almost wish I had done something bigger since I've ended up having more time than usual.
So, just keep working and you'll get there! :thumbsup:

11 November 2005, 01:44 PM

The boat model is looking extremely well done and the textures are great too.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: Now , the character model is fabulous too, very detailed and very accurate as far as I can tell. Good luck with this.

12 December 2005, 02:51 AM (

Thanks for the previous replies guys. I haven't posted for a while, being doing only little by little after work. I'm sorta just trying to get it done in time and not being pick now. For the character models i quickly zbrushed some clothing and painted them quickly since they will only be small and placed them in the scene. Fot the splashes i made around 10 variations in zb and placed them around the boat and whale. I will later render them seperatly so i can add more in photoshop in post. I think i'm gonna need a lot of post to get this looking ok :) Comments are most welcome.

12 December 2005, 08:48 AM
Wow. I didn't see this thread before. It's a success. Like the composition really. My only advice : hurry up there(s no time more. I want to see it finished.

12 December 2005, 02:00 PM (

This is a little colour check with the texture of the whale, most things have textures now although not all that good but should look ok in the composite. Anyway i corrected a bit more of the lighting. I will spend saterday on rendering and sunday composite and monday fixups then submit... nearly there... comments are most welcome :)

12 December 2005, 02:08 PM
authentic: thanks man, i'm very happy you like it :) thanks for the advice, your too right time is running out i gotta get my act together for the final dash, congrate on your finish, cya at the finishline :thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 02:11 PM
Hey Chi-han,

The composition looks great, the whale is really imposing in this image:thumbsup: :thumbsup: , I am looking forward to the final image. Good luck to the finish line.

12 December 2005, 02:19 PM
Looking real nice there hhssuu. Is this the actual composition or a framed detail shot? If it is the actual composition I suggest you add a lot more negative space above the whale; as is it is screaming for a more vertical negative space. I f I remember from your concept it had more space right? anyway it is coming along quite well.

12 December 2005, 02:23 PM
Hi there! I'm glad to see you're back on this. The whale looks really impressive - so does the fishing team. Good luck for completion - looking forward to see it fully renderd :thumbsup: :wip:

12 December 2005, 02:33 PM
Impressive scene... spectacular...
Beatiful texture and lights... waitng to see more up-dates, until now nothig to crit.
A very powerfull image :applause:

12 December 2005, 05:40 PM
very good job so far Hsu! I like the color , lighting , I think it will be wonderful when you add the sea surface! your schedule seem to be tight ! maybe you should beware the last day traffic while upload file ! good luck man!

12 December 2005, 09:26 PM
Heya mate... make a mighty dash, this is killer:buttrock:

May the force be with you

12 December 2005, 02:02 AM
mmoir & Gunilla: thanks man, i do my best to finish :thumbsup: best of luck with your entry too
SNoWs: thanks for your comments, um this is actually the final composition :( i had a look at other composition and this one's sorta the one i liked better. I'm very thankfull for your advice but unfortuantely i don't think i have anytime to reagrange compositions anymore. I hope you will like the final image though :)
jddog & monsitj & DaddyMack: thank you guys, yer the schedual is very tight, i do my final charge now... RAHHH~~~

I'll be doing my rendering today, i'll split up my image into multiple rendering and render out seperate elements, i will also renderout a image with material ids for easier compositing. For the splashes i will render some within the scene as well as seperate splashs so i can add more in photoshop without too much stress on my computer. My lighting is kept simple with one key light (sun) and a slight blue back light (acts like fill light, though i'll add a bit of blue to suggest reflections from the water surface), then i render an ambient occlusion pass with mental ray then composite.

Ok i hurry on to my renders now! thanks for the replies:)

12 December 2005, 05:35 PM
Nice progress and concept! This looking good so far. Goodluck! hope u will finish!:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 07:45 PM
Woooow Chih-Han Hsu, this looks so great... I love your whale, and the dynamics of your image it's just incredible, come on friend... finish this quicky!

12 December 2005, 10:58 PM (

ok rendering is finished now, i basically rendered all the objects ina a seperate layer and have the element passes seperate as well, i also rendered a material id (for isolating selections) and an ambient occlusion pass to get a bit og GI feel.

A more complete composite and post effects is on the way...

Dogreas3d and claudio jordao: thanks guys, nearly finished now, i hope you'll like the final image too :) and best of luck to you guys also

12 December 2005, 11:11 PM (

Here's how i rendered my water surface, i basically rendered a procedual water- looking shader on my surface and then rendered a seperate pass with a texture i put together with wave bubbles and sea water tones. Then i put the texture layer over the procedual layer with linear dodge and colour lodge in various levels and played with saturations until i was happy.

I rendered bits and pieces of water splashes and placed them with the same lighting of the scene. I will used them to add more water splashes in the scene so i wouldn't need to have a huge max file that would not render.

comments are most welcome.

ok i gotta goto work now, i hope to finish the final tonight and submit :)

12 December 2005, 12:52 AM
oh great! very nice idea and execution. The water spalsh around the whale doesn't look very realistic though, at this scale it should be smaller water drops and more foamy! grab some ref, easy to find on google .. (type whale jump or something..)

12 December 2005, 02:44 AM

This scene is coming together nicely, the water is looking excellent:thumbsup: . Good luck to the finish line.

12 December 2005, 07:08 AM
Yeah - good luck for the final steps, you're almost there now :thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 08:02 AM
Yoinks this is looking stunning mate.... Good luck beating the clock!

12 December 2005, 08:18 AM (

M@: thanks for the suggestion man, i added some more splashes, hope you like it :)

mmoir, gunilla and DaddyMack: Thanks for checking out my thread guys, i'll get busy and finish off now, hope you'll like the final image

Ok i've added most of the splashes in now, there's a mix between cg splashes and some splash photos i took at a fountain. i made some colour corrections around the place.

Next i will paint in some streams that flow off the whale from the head and teeth then i should be pretty close.

i better get busy, feel free to comments :)

12 December 2005, 08:48 AM
That looks cool ,almost finnished and good luck.

12 December 2005, 09:05 AM
Incredible, unbelievable.. I have no words; Realistic and illustrative in the same time. Emotion....Colors....Light and shadows.

I just can cry fotr this picture. Hope you'll win.

12 December 2005, 09:10 AM
Very cool man, its really come together. The only thing that doesn't hold up to my eyes is the rowing guys. The two standing guys look great, but to me the rowers look much less stylish and believable. Short of re-modeling, texturing and posing in the one remaining day, I'd suggest maybe darkening or desaturating those figures so that they don't draw the viewers focus. Or, nothing wrong with trying super cheap techniques like overlaying a texture or another image to get a bit more interest in the offending area, or even a 2d warp with photoshop liquify could work nicely. Nice work anyway!

12 December 2005, 09:23 AM
WOw! very nice ! and good technic ! glad you share here! and can you explain more about water texture? is it image or something? but not now , just finish it , I can wait , heheh
your image looking great ! but some point if you have time is big whale is look dry , maybe you can add a layer of thin surface to represent the water drop that on the big whale surface !:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 09:25 AM
SONIC-X: thanks man!
authentic: hehe it's prob not as cool as you decribed it :) thanks a lot i'm glad you like it.
gjpetch: yer too true, i've been staring at the sailors for the last couple of days, i'm sorta trying to fix it in photoshop atm cos rendering is prob to time consuming atm, i wish i could rerender though :(. Anyway give what you said a go, thanks for the suggestions.

12 December 2005, 10:38 AM (

monsitj: thanks, wow, glad you like my techniques :) the water is a mix between cg rendered water and photo, compisited in photoshop, nothing tricky really, i'll explain after i finish if you like :).

I took your advice and added more water fro the whales body, and did more clean up.

Should be near finish now...

comments are most welcome :)

12 December 2005, 11:43 AM (

Title: Leviathan

My image depicts a spectacular whale hunting scene. Following the lines of “excites and scares at the same time” I thought a traditional whale hunt would be the perfect topic. It seemed impressive to me that man would risk their lives taking on massive powers of giant whales in extreme weather conditions. With my image I tried to capture a moment of great danger and the bravery of the traditional whalers.

12 December 2005, 11:55 AM
a really spectacular scene... :bounce:

12 December 2005, 12:09 PM
Oh, very good final! Great concept and execution right there!


12 December 2005, 12:48 PM
awesome scene... sorry I missed your thread. Truely magnificent!

12 December 2005, 01:02 PM
ultra -spectacular image super good execution here... congrats !! this very beautiful:buttrock: :applause:

12 December 2005, 01:28 PM
wow, good luck to those guys :)
anyway, really spectacular!!

12 December 2005, 01:43 PM
Hey Chi-han,

Congrats on finishing this, it is an excellent image all round. :thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: . Great job on this Spectacular image.

12 December 2005, 01:45 PM
That´s a big fish, yes sir!:D Good luck with your work!:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 02:03 PM
Now this just rocks!


12 December 2005, 02:42 PM
Ahhh! This is just beautiful, just as I knew it would be... - congrats!

12 December 2005, 02:44 PM
Yeah, when I first saw your concept I loved it. Nicely done.

12 December 2005, 03:26 PM
Great work! well done in every aspect :)

12 December 2005, 05:09 PM
Awesome final image :eek:

I liked alot your explanation about water techniques, this is a wise approach to not render millions of polys :thumbsup:

Good luck for the final voting :bounce:

12 December 2005, 05:18 PM
i liked the colors and the composition.nice work:thumbsup: best of luck:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 05:31 PM
Ok Chih-Han Hsu... I'm speechless.
I just love your image. What a spectacular work my friend. Congratulations.

12 December 2005, 06:15 PM
Wow!! That is just wonderful!

Congratulations for finish.

Good luck.:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 06:35 PM
hi hhssuu .. an incredible image man! :bounce: :bounce: congratulations !
cheers and goodluck man!

Digital Amigos
12 December 2005, 07:07 PM

Awsome work, very nice color and compositing, i really like effect of the water, however i dont like to much shader of the people. (plastic) , maybe they should be splash by the water ;-)

anyway great work !! :)


12 December 2005, 08:41 PM
wheyaahh Chih-Han Hsu... Congratulations for finishing this beauty mate:thumbsup:

You've knocked out another stunning piece and again, you've made it look really easy along the way... Rock on mate:buttrock: Good luck with the jury

12 December 2005, 09:58 PM
Impressive and really spectacular final image, love the mood and render, you've done a great work. Look like an old painting !! Good luck for vote! :beer:

12 December 2005, 11:14 PM
Hi chih, i'm impressive with your job mate, really amazing and espectacular. congratulations :applause:

12 December 2005, 11:39 PM
wow is really spectacular....congratulations:)

12 December 2005, 12:10 AM
This is honestly a masterpiece. Incredible execution and storytelling with this picture.

12 December 2005, 12:59 AM
Great Image you got there!


12 December 2005, 08:59 AM
makaron, JamesMK, Versiden, Jaba153, Zongo, mmoir, gonzalo golpe, squibbit, gunilla, SNoWs, Momentum, Normad, CUBISIS, claudio jordao, tuck, yunisirees, DaddyMack, SuperXCM, denverbz, melkao, gardogg, mosconariz: thanks a lot guys! :) it was an busy but enjoyable challenge, i hope everyone had fun, and i'm glad you liked my entry. good luck to everyone!!

Digital Amigos: hehe yer i don't like the plastic looking people myself too, i wish i had time to rerender :) anyway i'm glad you liked the other aspects of the image. thanks for visiting :)

12 December 2005, 09:02 AM
Wow very spectacular and beautiful picture. Great stuff! Good luck for the judging!! :applause: :thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 09:20 AM
:thumbsup: o yes! that's really spectacular! love the water effect! good compositing, well done hhssuu!

best luck!

12 December 2005, 10:03 AM
nice pic coool atmosphere

12 December 2005, 01:37 PM
Hi man.

Want to congrat on one of the best cought spectacular images I'VE SEEN HERE.
This is my favorite pal.
U have great sence for making inspiring art.
Holding my thumbs.
AIR out.

12 December 2005, 08:06 PM

fantastic realisation of the theme... you got my vote!!!:thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 10:59 PM
thierry2005: thanks man, your entry i amazing, i'm glad you like it, best of luck to you too :)
3dmiao: thank you, a few people have asked about the water, i'll prob do up a little explaintion on the water over the weekend for people who are interested, it's nothing special though sorta a 2.5d effort.
tomas slobodnik: thanks man :)
A I R: wow i'm very happy my image is your favourate :D your entry is very impressive to me, are you going to finish? it's due in like one hour or something... best of lucks to you if you're still entering:thumbsup:
theuni: thanks mate :)

12 December 2005, 11:30 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
Awesome work, man ! One of my favourite images !
That's what I call spectacular !
Excellent, impressive :-)
Congratulations !

Roman /Grin3d

12 December 2005, 09:10 AM

This is realy awesome work. absolut stunning!

I just can imagine a movie poster 4 a new upcoming "MOBY DICK" movie! ;)

Great work and my one of my favorites in this challenge!
:beer: Alex

12 December 2005, 10:07 AM
Really a spectacular work... I love the colors of your images.
Congratulations for your impressive work !

12 December 2005, 12:33 PM
amazing work!!! really spectacular!! the best luck for you!:beer:

12 December 2005, 02:31 PM
Congratulation for the Great Work. :thumbsup:

This is one of my favorites. Really Spetacular :applause:

12 December 2005, 05:22 PM
Really nice, image here dude, there is a lot of action in this, best of luck to you in the judging!

12 December 2005, 08:51 PM
Thats a great moby dick style scene man :thumbsup: , Dont ever wanted to be in this boat :scream:
Fine work here :) Congrats and best luck mate

12 December 2005, 07:50 AM
I VOTED THAT YOU WOULD WIN THE CHALLENGE. Your work is impressive. :) Maybe next time I would do something better like yours hehehe congratulations. Mine got busted maybe because i haven't read the instructions clearly. I was just in a hurry..We'll better luck next time for me..heheheh

12 December 2005, 11:10 PM
Grin3d, vampeta, jddog, Smooth-Criminal, JR.BRAZ, beelow, rept0r, dunkinjonats: thank you very much for the support guys :) i'm very happy to hear the positive repose to my work, make all the hard work worth while :D i hope everyone enjoyed the challenge and happy resting after the finishing:applause:

12 December 2005, 11:10 PM
There was some interest in the methods involved in my water splashes, so I decided to write a little explanation for those interested. It's nothing fancy but i hope some will find it helpful :)

The splashes in the image consisted of 3d renders, photos I took of real water and painted details.

For the 3d splashes I created in zbrush, I made a around 20ish variations and composited them into the scene; the lighting were kept in the same so the composite will look natural. The following explains the steps in zb that I used to make the blobby splash look:

1) I create a plane with enough divisions to mask out fine details like water drops.
2) I then masked out the water drops, either by applying an image rough water then using the image intensity as a mask or just painting the mask directly.
3) I then hid the unmasked polys
4) Following, I deleted the lower res sdivs, and then deleted the hidden polys
5) I now store a morph target of this, inflate the geometry then use the "create difference mesh" function to make a sorta extruded look of our splash geometry.
6) At this stage you can pull the water drops around with the move tool to give it a more natural look, rather then it all sitting flat on a plane. I also like to give it a smooth or inflate to my likes.
7) As you can see it still looks sorta stiff and un-blobby. To make it blobby, I create a unified mesh from the current geometry. This usually gives a more averaged out and smooth look.
8) And finally I like to give it a bit more unevenness by drawing some over the geometry randomly to give the water a bit more fluid appearance.

I created many versions of this, shaded and rendered in max for the composite.
Some splashes like the water surface surrounding the whale and some splashes around the boat were rendered with the scene to at least have some water interact more believable. I also rendered some water with transparent and refracted shades as well as a white foamy version so I can decide the balance of foaminess later in Photoshop.

For the 2d side of the water I took some photos of splashes form a local water fountain. These pictures were taken from a high shutter speed so I get minimal blurriness. The following shows the steps I did to add splashes form the photos to my composite:

1) Grab a copy of one of the channels, and then adjust the levels until you have the desired fineness of your splash.
2) Load the selection from the channel then fill it with white over your composite.

This method only worked for my case cos the splashes are generally white, otherwise it could look a bit flat.

For the painted details I simply painted streaks of waters on the whale by eye.
Although I would have like to create the image fully with 3d elements but as time was running short I decided to go for a more hybrid approach, and I think I’m quite happy with the result.

I hope my explanations are helpful and please feel free to ask questions if I didn't describe my steps clearly.

12 December 2005, 04:47 AM
This entry will definately make a big splash in the Spectacular Challenge! Very well done. :thumbsup:

12 December 2005, 12:01 AM
This definitely deserves an award. Congrats on finishing this piece, and good luck!

This also reminds me of Moby Dick! ;)

12 December 2005, 08:57 AM
webhead: thanks, big splash :) that'll be great, i'm glad you like it.
Loulu79: i'm very happy, thanks for your comments :D

12 December 2005, 10:54 AM
Mary Christmas my Friend!
have sonme nice Holidays :beer:

01 January 2006, 08:16 AM
WOOHOO!!! I got 2nd runner up :applause: i'm so happy!! There's so many amazing works in this challenge that just blow my mind, I'm so happy to be a part of this and much much thanks to the people who gave me the useful feedbacks. I still can't believe it, does this mean i get a nice cgtalk logo next to my name :) hehe

01 January 2006, 09:08 AM
Congratulations mate for you success... your fantastic piece desserved it...

You're a very spectacular guy :thumbsup: continue like that :)

01 January 2006, 09:19 AM
Congratulations on an awesome piece! :)



01 January 2006, 12:20 PM
A big congrats to you Chi-Han! You made an amazing job especially since you had limited time for it. I'm so happy for you - you must be very proud of this, good luck! :thumbsup:

01 January 2006, 12:30 PM
Congrats dude! I already know the result when you post your final image ! hehehe
good job man! see you

01 January 2006, 02:13 PM
Congratulations!! I belive we can see at next challange!! :)

Good luck!

01 January 2006, 05:05 PM
Hi, Congratulation for your price and your great image.
E.T :cool:

01 January 2006, 05:10 PM
That's so awesome, man:bounce: ...You deserve it!...

:applause: CONGRATULATIONS !!!:applause:

01 January 2006, 05:17 PM
damn that is asome
serious skills you got there man

01 January 2006, 09:07 PM
That's so awesome, man:bounce: ...You deserve it!...

:applause: CONGRATULATIONS !!!:applause:

INDEED. :thumbsup:
Congrats man. :bounce:

01 January 2006, 02:25 AM

Congrats on your placing , your image was great and see you in the next challenge.

01 January 2006, 01:26 PM
Lemog: Thanks you soo much, i'll do my best to continue hehe :D
Rebeccak: Thanks you, best of luck to the CGWorkshop, i think your knowledge of anatomy is amazing
Gunilla: Nice to see ya man, ta for the congrats, I'm very happy with the limited time i had :D hope to see ya again in future challenges :thumbsup:
monsitj: Thanks man, best of luck with you, i checked out the site of your work place the other day, some talented people you work with i was very impressed, congrats to you too again
Staszek: thanks, yep looks like i'll have to try find tome to do the next challenge now hehe, cya
Tranchefeux: Ta, yep think i'll have fun with the prize :D
Maxter: thanks man, nice to see ya, we'll prob meet again in next challenge, cya
chemical-nos: Thanks you, hehe i'm alright still working on it :)
DimitrisLiatsos: Hey man, how's it going, thanks for the congrats, i'm very happy
mmoir: thanks man, yep we'll prob meet again in next challenge, cya

01 January 2006, 04:15 PM
Congrats man. A really stunning image. It really leaves me wondering who will prevail, the whale or the men. I love images that leave me hanging like that. Great work.

01 January 2006, 11:42 PM
a great pay for a great piece!

01 January 2006, 03:12 AM
Novacaine: thanks you :) i'm very happy that my image has such affects
Climax: thanks, yep i'll be sure to enjoy the prize :D

02 February 2006, 12:32 PM
hello ,
I really enjoyed watching this , fantastic colors , i guess it will be my wallpaper for while .thanks

04 April 2006, 06:50 AM
very nice ..good luck.

04 April 2006, 09:16 AM
hellmr: Thanks mans, sorry for the late reply, wow people using my pic as wallpaper that's so cool :) thanks again
goulei: thanks man, the competition is over by now though, i got 2nd runner up, i was so happy, but you're good luck message will come in handy still, ta.

06 June 2006, 03:14 PM
Wow! very nice.. execellent level of detail.. just like real image
Furqan Qidwai
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