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09 September 2005, 05:33 AM
Eddie Ellis is entered in the "Spectacular Challenge" update: View Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: Birth (The Demon King) (

Hey Guy's the title of my Image is called "Birth (The Demon King)".

I haven't really got a backstory for this image, but i would like to give you the reasons why i choose to do it for the challange.

a Couple of day's before the challenge started i became the proud father of a bouncing baby boy. When the challenge was annouced i read the instructions which asked us all to produce an image that depicted a moment or event in time that was spectactular. Which made me think of what was the most spectacular moment in my life, which funnily enough was a couple of days previous when i watch my Son being born.
A futher description in the challenge was to produce an image that would excite and sicken the viewer at the same time, i took this litrally and thought what would be the best thing i could do to show the spectular event of birth, but in just a way that would bring allot of controvicy and make the image talked about for along time after. I was reminded of something Goerge A Romero said in an interview which was "why cut the camera away at all the good bits, its what the vewier wants to see weather say it or not".

These were the reason why i decided to do such a image, plus the fact i love to shock people...

Highres Version at (

09 September 2005, 05:34 AM
Wahooooo, here we go again... good luck to all :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:28 AM
yeah you tell it, here we go again...
good luck Eddie !

09 September 2005, 06:36 AM
Glad to see you again too eddie :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:38 AM
Good luck eddie.... And have fun...

09 September 2005, 06:43 AM
All the best Eddie!

09 September 2005, 06:49 AM
Good Luck:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:27 AM
Go Eddie Go ! :buttrock:

09 September 2005, 08:29 AM
good luck eddieellis

09 September 2005, 08:44 AM
Hi Eddie...have fun man! :bounce:

09 September 2005, 08:54 AM
Best wishes Eddie... and let's goooooooooooooooooooooooo :bounce:

09 September 2005, 09:55 AM
Go for it Eddie, glad to see you back.

09 September 2005, 10:35 AM
Hi, looking forward to some more stunning work from you - have fun!

09 September 2005, 01:14 PM
Eddie! Mr make it look easy... Good to see you here again mate!

09 September 2005, 02:02 PM
hey eddie... looking forward to this one dude.. all the best!

09 September 2005, 05:00 PM
Hiya Eddie! Glad you join the fun as well, came to wish you best luck and loadsa fun! go go go!:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

09 September 2005, 05:22 PM
H I I I I I I I I Eddie!! :bounce: great pleasure to see you again my friend!! hope that you make another great participation again... I may participate too... but I'm thinking yet... Good luck to you my brother:beer:


09 September 2005, 06:29 PM (

Due to the recent Birth of my Son, i decided to do this image.

nuth said

09 September 2005, 06:58 PM
oh lal la...

09 September 2005, 07:24 PM
• WELCOME again mr. Eddie! cool to meet u one more time! now, LET'S PARTY! :beer:

09 September 2005, 08:01 PM
lol.... its good to be back dude, looking forward to freaking you all out with my sick imaghination:twisted:

09 September 2005, 08:04 PM
Haha! So fatherhood has brought out the devil within you? It will be a real change from the last challenge, looking forward!

09 September 2005, 08:10 PM
The devil was always there and i was just moonlighting for a while... i hope you ok with this Gunilla, as it's kindda the same as yours just alittle futher on... ( let me know if it isn't, as i have another idea up my sleve)

09 September 2005, 08:14 PM
well for a spectacular image, this is it ! Like eYadNesS wrote ho lala ! I'm sure that can be something with a really strong impact !

09 September 2005, 09:21 PM
Hi Eddie,

Nice concept you have…

I have something similar, but not the same, I have the opposite (the birth of the good)
Hope you don’t mind…
Good luck!!!

09 September 2005, 06:04 AM
i hope you ok with this Gunilla, as it's kindda the same as yours just alittle futher on... ( let me know if it isn't, as i have another idea up my sleve)

I see absolutely no problems here... even if our subjects are related I think we're going for very different expressions - it will be fun and useful for me to follow your work on this - go on! :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:05 AM
hi eddie .... nice to see ya again... freaking concept but cool i think.. :twisted:!

09 September 2005, 06:06 AM
jddog : Thanks dude, i have some great idea's in my head, i want to do a giger style pic (colour wise) and put the mothers face in the background. it al depends on compersition really.

el_newty : No Mate, i dont mind... I have to do this picture as the birth of my son, not 4 weeks ago was the most spectacular moment in my life. this picture has been in my mind since then and will plague it unytil i manage to get it on paper.

yunisirees ( : Thanks mate

09 September 2005, 07:18 AM
i want to do a giger style pic (colour wise)...
ho lala (second time)


09 September 2005, 09:41 AM
Eddie, congrats for your new born...:bounce:
It's a boy or girl???
You have to be very, very happy at this moment...
For me this subject is for now only a wish... maybie later I'll have this privilege to enjoy the crying of a child in my house.

I'll look forward to see your progress :)
Cheers & good luck :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 09:49 AM
Yeah... congratulations to the mother and to you too... :scream: and for sure Nice concept... I can reassure you, my second son just have 1 year in august... and he's always a monster king :twisted: hahahaha...

Have fun in this challenge... and lot of fun for many years with your pretty boy :wavey:

09 September 2005, 12:10 PM
Gunilla : Thanks mate, i didn't want to step on anybodies toe's

el_newty : Thanks mate, its a boy..... and im sure your day will come.

Lemog : Cheer Dude looking forward to getting stuck in, just trying to find the time.

09 September 2005, 03:39 PM
Cool Eddie, your up and runnin'. The thought of a Giger inspired image is already making me drool.

09 September 2005, 03:54 AM
hehe, I was wondering if anyone would show birth in their entry. After your entry, everyone on this site will knwo where babies come from:D . Good luck with getting the idea flushed out more.

09 September 2005, 10:05 AM (

Actually got around to do some modelling today, which is cool...

Done this so far, but need to change the expression to more of a crying baby.
Ive decided to do a basic head in Max and then detail and give demon features in ZB.

Will keep you all updated

09 September 2005, 10:33 AM
nicely coming up baby head.:) ... hmm zb detailing sounds good!

09 September 2005, 11:13 AM
Eddie my friend!! nice to see your entry:)

have good luck mate!!:thumbsup:


09 September 2005, 12:45 PM (

OK, another quick update, with more of the expression i wanted, still not right, as i will be putting all the wrinkles in with ZB, after finishing the basic model.

09 September 2005, 12:57 PM
I'm impressed, face looks amazing, is very expressive and you are just in a wip stage... wow

09 September 2005, 02:55 PM
Very, very good start for your modeling! already good expression, but as you say - more wrinkles will make it even better :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 03:08 PM
It`s ok .I mean the model , But for the shader (material) dont use oren nayar blin ,( cuz of green fallof lines around the character head .

09 September 2005, 03:26 PM
jddog : Thanks mate

yunisirees & Gunilla : I think Zb is the only way to go nowaday's, if you look at the winning entries in the M&S challenge, i would say 8 out 10 of them used ZB..

Ramtin_moom : Hey Mate, dont worry about the shader its just a quick ref, i will end up using allot of purple and brown (like Giger) and SSS for the photorealistic feel

alexfalchi : My old friend, good to hear from you again... so why arn't you entering this one ?

09 September 2005, 03:39 PM (

More expression.... need to do the boy now

09 September 2005, 05:08 PM
hmm zb it is ! :) ... just brush it good man!

09 September 2005, 05:17 PM
nice concept and head! congratulations to you and your family :thumbsup: keep it up

09 September 2005, 05:22 PM (

Ben thinking about putting horns on the baby... what do ou guy's think ?

09 September 2005, 05:29 PM
oh yeah... :twisted: I like it... still a personal thought...

09 September 2005, 07:12 PM
Hi Eddie... great start on the modeling

I like the face expression

Good luck!!!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:21 PM
Eddie... Making it look easy again already I see... Dig the direction, congrats on the new junior, good luck making this wicked concept come to life;)
Btw I think maybe somewhere in between with the horns... Maybe give him nubs to represent their presence, they kind of dominate the characters face for me...

09 September 2005, 08:48 PM
Hey Eddie,
Congrats on the new baby, life will never be the same. Your model is looking great , looking forward to what you are going to add to your scene.

09 September 2005, 08:51 PM
Nice proggress .:)

09 September 2005, 09:30 PM
yo eddie.. i just knew this was urs, modelling style and the curves lol lovin it...more!:bounce:

09 September 2005, 12:34 AM
Hey hey, I'm subscribed! That's a really cute kid you have, give'em some nice big horns!

I think it might be good to work on your concept a bit further, since based on your last sketch it lacks a bit of the spectacular, doesn't it? Cheers on the good start!

I'll be watching now...

09 September 2005, 01:22 AM
I will go ahead and subscribe to this thread, nice start and a nice model! I'll be back holla!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 02:39 AM
not bad man... the model is looking good...but imo the brow part could use some more work.... keep up the good works... :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:17 AM
Hiya,,, ooohhh people subscibing to my thread, i feel Honoured. :)

Ok people with a squimish nature please stop reading now.

The reason why i am doing this pic is because it was the most Spectacular momemt in my life, when my son was born, so i couldn't think of a more fitting image for the title.
I know my concept is not very detailed at the moment, but thats because i preferr to day my work in 3d rather then on paper.

So here is a decription of the final image to those who wont to no more. Birth is always a spectactular moment at any point, but what i will be attempting is a picture of the demon king being born. my thought are to try to show as much pain as i can get, the baby will be eating his way out of the womb, so i will have blood and tissue tailing from the baby mouth and horns, not to mention blood streaming from the mother.
The compersition will hopefully allow me to show the mothers face, with a extreme expression of pain but hopefully i will manage to attchieve this with a suttle amount of pleasure (giving the mother that sadist feel).... to top this off i would like to put the fathers hand around the back of the babies nect ripping the baby from the womb (not sure if i can do this depends out the compersition).

And Yes i have a twisted mind....:twisted:

jddog : Thanks again man

Maxter : Thank you, glad you like

DaddyMack my old firend, good to see you again, glad you like the concept and its always a pleasure working with you. :buttrock:

mmoir : Thanks mate... he's a bugger and i not sleeping but i wouldn't change it for the world.

Ramtin_moom : Thanks dude

nebezial : i do tend to have a style, but i do try to mix my images up as much as possible

keetmun : They Mate, i feel hounered, please read above and i'll try not to disapoint you

beelow : Hounered again and thanks man

overcontrast : Thanks mate, i know it need allot of work, and its hard not to add little things here and there, but i will be doing all that in zb, so i need to keep the model as basic as possible... which is something im finding difficult as i just wont to keep adding

09 September 2005, 11:08 AM
Great expression, cool modeling, horns? Definately

09 September 2005, 01:17 PM
That's looking awesome! Great work, keep it up!
And congrats daddy :D

09 September 2005, 01:56 PM
i like your concept idea eddie very cool, hopefully it gets completed because it'd be very cool .. nice start on the model and you gotta keep those horns.. nice touch.

09 September 2005, 02:33 PM (

Very minor update thus far today.. as baby's been running me ragid... Hopefully shall be able to give it some more attention tonight, so ill make a start on the body.

09 September 2005, 05:35 PM (

Sorry i cant stop play with the head... i think that these horns are better.. but would like your opinions

09 September 2005, 05:39 PM
Hmm... naah, I think I liked the previous ones better - these looks a little like curls. Can change when textured of course.
So, where's the body? :scream:

09 September 2005, 07:42 PM
Sheesh, the baby is already hard enough for women to push out and here you add horns:D . If you want a more painfull look, I would go with the horns that point upward, the new ones seem like they would be easier to push out and wouldn't cause as much damage....hehe, now i sound twisted. Waiting patiently for that body.

09 September 2005, 09:58 PM
handlebar : Thanks mate... horns are always good

coCoKNIght : Thanks Mate..

Neeno : hey mate, well the challenge is 3 months long, give me a month and im sure it will be finished... so lots of time to fine tune

Gunilla : i think the horms are gunna take awhile to get right, so i shall do and variation abit futhe down the line..

ace4016 : Hornas pointing upwards.... ahhhhhhhhhwwwwwww i see my evil influence i rubbing off on people... lol.. dont worry mate i will put the body togeather tomorrow.

Thanks for the input guy's

09 September 2005, 10:28 PM
Oh yes my friend .Now It looks like so nice .Really I like it .:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 04:26 AM
Wow Eddie,
this is a great, great start...
Nice had :thumbsup:
Regarding the horns... hmmm... I think they're better for the first time, now they are too curly ;)
Cheers and good luck :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:26 AM
great work so far eddie... has the chumbiness of a little boy... :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:14 AM
excellent modeling!love it a lot.:bounce:

09 September 2005, 08:34 AM
Hey.. very nice transformation... I like that... we ask for more... too funny :beer:

09 September 2005, 01:33 AM
Eddie, this character is great! Lil devil for sure but keep a cute shaping. I'ts a fine combo. Keep him/her comin...:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 02:03 AM
I like this a lot better, Yeah I tend to play with the head a lot longer than any thing else, until next time I visit this forum, holla!:scream:

09 September 2005, 02:29 AM
I just read what your trying to accomplish.....oh my :eek:

That is going to be one freakish image

09 September 2005, 06:35 AM
Gunilla : i think the horms are gunna take awhile to get right, so i shall do and variation abit futhe down the line..

Take your time - what you have going now is truly disturbing (in a good sense of course), the expression for that babys face is creepy ... keep em coming :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 12:34 PM
Ramtin_moom : Thanks Dude

el_newty : Hopefully the horns will look better when textured, not sure what im going to do with them yet

icedeyes & xric7 : Thanks guy's

Lemog : Its on its way dude, just need some time away to sit down.... lol

Tremoside : I was thinking of keeping the baby curvy, and was going to concintrate more on mother in the giger style

beelow : lol... well its a 3 month comp.. so have loads a time to fiddle

Kid Mesh : Freaky oh yes, hopefully will shock allot of poeple... lol

Gunilla : Thanks man, alittle way to go yet, but i think the real impact will come form the texturing

Well, didn't have any time last night to do anything, just manged to sort babies top lip out... will try to do some more, when i get home from work tonight..

09 September 2005, 12:41 PM
the horror!! thats one menacing baby!like the mouth area ( baby gums and fangs)!.should look great when textured!
cheers man!

09 September 2005, 01:50 PM
Hey ed! I was wondering when i'd see you here. Hope everythings going well for you on the island:D Your most recent update looks cool! Cant wait to see some more of the demon baby! :) Good luck! and knowing you, you'll be finished by next week ;)

09 September 2005, 09:03 PM (

Wahoooo, finally got 5 mins to start on the body...

09 September 2005, 09:26 PM
Coooool proggress dude man .:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 09:46 PM
Dang you're havin fun aint ya... What are the plans for the background?

09 September 2005, 09:51 PM
Dang you're havin fun aint ya... What are the plans for the background?

hadn't really thought of that one yet... i think most of it will be the mother, plus fathers hand of course.... Any sugguestions ?

09 September 2005, 10:01 PM
I'd consider what sort of an upbringing they plan to give their bundle of joy, their social class, financial status, ethnicity etc and then just set everything on fire... but then I do have umm... some fire issues...

Dunno mate, are they gonna be demon parents or everyday folk?

09 September 2005, 10:03 PM
lol...... Think Giger and you be on the right lines

09 September 2005, 10:08 PM
lol...... Think Giger and you be on the right lines

Ouch! I'm gonna love this... And I believe that answers my Q? Maybe they could be in a deep chasm...

Good luck mate, I just reserved my front row seat;)

09 September 2005, 10:19 PM
oh how evil this child looks..

09 September 2005, 11:52 AM
I think you'd better phone for an exorcist now, this dudes gonna cause havock. Delightfully evil.

09 September 2005, 11:28 AM
So... we're impatiently waiting for some updates here. The wicked baby needs the rest of his body :scream:

09 September 2005, 03:36 PM
So... we're impatiently waiting for some updates here.
Yep... si very :twisted: to wait so much :D

09 September 2005, 03:58 PM
Just stoped to say: "Hi! And Good luck"

09 September 2005, 09:00 PM (

09 September 2005, 09:08 PM
• C'mon! it is not a little update, now he can hand us the beer Lol :D, I am also with lots of work and little time for " Playing" :sad: But I am sure I am gonna finish my image this time, we have still good time:wip::wip:;)

09 September 2005, 05:45 AM
Little update mate ? well, it's always much pleasure to discover a new beautiful step... :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:48 AM
:thumbsup: Dang, good stuff so far, I will wait for the next update!

09 September 2005, 07:39 AM
Ahhh - he's growing! Good luck with the webwork - good thing we have plenty of time this time around, and you work so fast- you'll make it for sure :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 08:14 AM (

Hey Guy's Managed to get some time for myself to play this morning, so this is how far i have got.. i left the hands quite basic, as if can remember for my M&S entry, hands are a nightmare for me, so i will detail them in ZB as its so much easier...

The bodies nearly finished now, just need to extend the belly alittle more and add the umbilical cord, when i'll start to detail in ZB.

09 September 2005, 08:23 AM
Climax : Cheers dude, but dont think you would want anything this little one hands you

09 September 2005, 09:36 AM (

Well starting on the mother now... nuff said me thinks

09 September 2005, 09:59 AM
impressive...very nice model here :thumbsup: I will curious to see you work on hand into Zbrush... sound a great idea...

09 September 2005, 10:42 AM
Great job Eddie, looking forwar to the detailing, excelent pose and expression

09 September 2005, 11:21 AM
Hi eddieellis, nice modeling and congrats for your new born kid :thumbsup:

Looking forward to see your next steps on this. :)

09 September 2005, 01:33 PM
hum hhum - fine work in progress around here - keep it up - cheers


09 September 2005, 02:33 PM
Yap, I agree with you, modelling fingers is a nightmare.
Nice updates.


09 September 2005, 02:54 PM
It`s cool . I think U can try again to make the fingers better than it. all of another pieace is so good .

09 September 2005, 06:19 PM
jddog : always a pleaseure to see you hear dude, im curious too as im only a begginer in zb

handlebar : Thanks Man

thierry2005 : CHeers Dude, i'll try not to dissapoint

aBlackEgg : Thanks dude

suk-grigorij : Hey my Russian friend, good to see you back, looking forward to share idea's with you once again.

Ramtin_moom : i know dude, i always find fingers hard, but will keep you all updated

09 September 2005, 06:35 PM
great work eddieellis and cant say thats not been already said! :) nice ... keep on doing it man!

09 September 2005, 06:39 PM
Well, what can i say, it is certainly spectacular :D. Good work so far :).

09 September 2005, 11:32 PM
Yeah, I will be doin' some zb work as well I hope that will work out for ya holla!

09 September 2005, 12:55 AM
Hi eddieellis. I just want to say. NICE WORK. :applause: Its amazing.
I'm looking for the next step.

xbo :scream:

09 September 2005, 02:04 PM
Dunno about you guys, don't want to offend anyone, but I'd say: "F#ck Zbrush".

09 September 2005, 02:42 PM
Well starting on the mother now... nuff said me thinks

This is really beginning to feel painful - not exactly a baby I'd like to squeeze out :eek:

Love your updates even so :)

09 September 2005, 05:04 AM
yunisirees : cheers mate, good to see you back

DogmaD : well my thinking as that its the most spectactular moment in anybodies life

beelow : i think zb's the way forward and cgtalk seem to favour artists that use it.

2xbo : thanks dude... ill keep em coming

suk-grigorij : het me old mucker, unfortunatly i kindda need to use it, as its just not possiblt to get some of the fine detail without it. but i wont re relying on it too much

Gunilla : lol

Right guy's, had a bit of a nightmare yesturday and managed to delete and save over allot of my progress so im having to rebuild same of the goemerty.... unfortunatly i really am pushed at work at the moment, but should be finished at the end of the week. My boss said i can have Friday off due to all the hard work i have put in over the weekend and the last months or so, so i will be able to get my teeth stuck in at the weekend......

Take it easy guy's.. sorry i haven't done allot of posting on other threads but i should have more time as of next week, so i'll catch up i promise

09 September 2005, 04:23 PM
suk-grigorij : het me old mucker, unfortunatly i kindda need to use it, as its just not possiblt to get some of the fine detail without it. but i wont re relying on it too much

What U were drinking my friend? And thats right, it's not a good deal to rely on some sh#ty (sh@tty) sh#tware.

Best of luck, dude. See ya.

09 September 2005, 04:27 PM
so you never know my M&S entry might actually find its way on the a TV near you soon.... how cool is that.:thumbsup:

That is extrememly cool :cool: Congrats - it might cheer you up from losing your data.

09 September 2005, 10:08 PM (

Het Guys, very quick update, nearly back to what i have lost.. redone the hands and arms and started alittle skin shader... which is very rough at the mo.

09 September 2005, 10:15 PM
Nice looking baby so far eddieellis, am loving the expression on his face!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 02:29 AM
Hey my friend!! How are you???
amazing work, as aways!!! The expression in this face is great!
Best luck to you mate!:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 07:01 AM
heheh bizarre baby! Cool pose, though! I like the horned version best, as well.

09 September 2005, 01:45 PM
Nice modeling. :thumbsup:

One crit would be that the left hand looks like its on the wrong way round. This is because all his fingers are the same size. You can see this on the other hand but it's not as critical as you can see the thumb.

Although a subtle fix I reckon you'd see a huge improvement if you gave him correctly proportioned fingers particularly the little finger on his left hand.

The facial expression is great, look forward to seeing him textured...

Good work,

09 September 2005, 03:40 PM
Swamps is right.

09 September 2005, 05:50 AM (

Hey guy's i think i sorted the hads out.. i cnt believe just how long this is taking, but i have around 1 hour in the morning to work on it so bare with me.

09 September 2005, 06:32 AM
:) Take your time friend, but my opinion to follow Swamps's advice, he has a good point ...and it will solve your problem :bounce:.

09 September 2005, 09:22 PM
Hi eddieellis. It's coming something. Keep time to creat some cripy baby.

I wish you nice work.

xbo :scream:

09 September 2005, 03:56 PM
Mate I just read your description and I think this could turn out really wicked! Congrats on your son as well.

The procedurals are looking really good as well, can't wait to see more!


09 September 2005, 06:57 PM (

Hey Guy's, had some time tonight, so i got around to do some texturing..

All drits and comments are welcome

09 September 2005, 07:39 PM
Heya Eddie, looking good as ever mate:thumbsup:... You might wish you could take a swing at me for this but his hands bug me... they lack the 'flab factor' that you've got going with the rest of him and they look a little lifeless and rigid... sorry:P

big mouth
09 September 2005, 12:28 PM
ha guru ur spec..... coming well, keep it up....:thumbsup: ,Just check my spec... and give me some ideas and tips.

09 September 2005, 01:23 PM (

Did some more work on texturing today, still playing around with the hands. but im sure i will get them right one

09 September 2005, 01:36 PM
Hey man, that looks really sick :) but really unique within... Good luck!

09 September 2005, 02:01 PM
Ouch - that's really nasty :thumbsup:

About the hands... perhaps you should give him claws?

09 September 2005, 04:51 PM (

well. i think thats nearly there, just need to put in alittle more detailing.

Hey Gunilla think claws would be cool, but i kinnda unwrapped the model and when i ad more verts it messes it all up.. if anybody knows who to get around this easily i would appericate it.

09 September 2005, 04:54 PM
Are you on MAX? If so, you could add a editpoly modifier above the Unwrap - that's what I've done since I discovered a lot of mess in the mesh after adding the Unwrap. But as you know, I'm really now expert on Unwrapping - yet :)
You could perhaps also make it as separate polys?

09 September 2005, 04:58 PM
yeh using max and bodypaint, unfortunalty i do everything in Sub-d's so if i add a edit mesh mod after the uv mod it gives me a 100 polys for the finger nails...... doh doh doh

i think i might have to add the geom as a seperate object

09 September 2005, 05:39 PM
Just one word...
Keep up the good work :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:59 AM
great work so far eddieellis, wery spectacular and i hope your son dont have to muth in comen whith the figure you are making :scream: see you later mate and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 06:33 AM

That about says it me thinks;)

Re the claws you could detach the tips and work them from there maybe? Or even detach the whole hand.. then stitch it back on later... Sorry me no speak max...

09 September 2005, 06:51 AM
Hahahahahaha... great :thumbsup: continue like that Eddie :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

09 September 2005, 12:28 PM
Hello mate,

s'looking good so far, whats it going to be bursting out of? A goat? A woman?

2 words - forked tongue!! GO!!

09 September 2005, 12:33 PM
hey matty V, was thinking about that very same thing, but decided against it coz i wanted it too by as close too a human child as i could get it. plus i think forked tounge would be alittle too stereotypical. but might give it a go to see how it all turns out...

09 September 2005, 02:01 PM
very nice progress eddie... just one comment on the bloody part of the texture... i would add some geometry and make it slowly drip from his chin... right now it seems too static for blood... or it might just be me...

09 September 2005, 05:32 PM
Yes, this is really ugly creature, phweeeee... Good work, EddieEllis, it's always interresting to watch your progress (i'm sure I already said that somewhere before ).

09 September 2005, 06:12 PM
el_newty : thanks mate

alex.h. : lol... na he just seems to have the same temprament

DaddyMack : i think the best way forw2ard is to create an extra object for the claws and then try to find away to attach later on... thanks for you help mate

Lemog : Hey Lemog .. i plan too...... lol :bounce:

icedeyes : I see what your saying mate, and yes i plan to create some blood splahes, just wanted to have a base coat on the model... i think i'll prbably use from realflow too get the blood really moving.

suk-grigorij : hey my Russian friend alway to pleaseure to read your comments mate

09 September 2005, 03:59 PM
Sweet baby:scream:

Great update Eddie:thumbsup:

09 September 2005, 05:48 AM
Sweet baby:scream:

Sweet ? Sweet ? Sweet ? Sweet ? he remain me mine yesterday evening :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

:scream: hahahahaha

10 October 2005, 06:50 AM (

Hey Guy's, finally got around to making a start on the mother.. she looks alittle plain at the moment, but i usually try to get the human face'ish and when change to demonic properties. will keep you posted

10 October 2005, 09:21 AM (

Hey Guy's, this alittle more of the expression im going for, kindda want a pleasure and pain expression, tried doing a search on google for it, but you can image the results i got...... lol

10 October 2005, 11:25 AM (

Tring to get that giger feel now, not sure if its working, let me know what you think ?

10 October 2005, 04:04 PM
I personally think that you have such a strong image in the baby that it would look better if the mother was a normal human figure but with a look of total horror and revoltion on her face, as if she wasn't expecting the demon dude to pop out, but a normal child. If you get too geigerish with the mother i feel that the baby will loose some of it's impact.

10 October 2005, 04:40 PM
yeh you got a good point there, and a nice idea, but the setting would be all wrong if i were to place it in a hospital ?

But saying that the mother wont really be in shot that much as i will be using a depth of field shot which should hopefully blur out the mothers face in the background.

What does everyone else think, as im now in two minds ?

10 October 2005, 06:21 PM
:argh: creepy as hell!

10 October 2005, 07:05 PM
My vote is for human giving birth to a devilchild... :) I kind of like the first face you updated today...

10 October 2005, 07:23 PM
Heya Eddie, In keeping wiith the Giger feel I'd go with human, and make her utterly gorgeous, innocent and feminine... Push yourself on it mate, then I'd F**k her up somehow with some subtle demonic details, like she's just been possessed, veins protruding, wierd eyes, exaggerated expression etc... To be really out there she could be instead looking at the lil fella with utter adoration.. unaware of her pain or that He's hellspawn... Whatever you go with I'd say that the more subtle the overall demonic nature of the lucky lady the more attention is given to juniour... Keep Rokkin!

10 October 2005, 08:02 AM
Yep - I'm totally with Mack on this. Modeling so far is really great but I think the image might get even stronger with her completely human. A mix between innocence and devilness ... this is goiung to be so fab - just keep on :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 11:20 AM
hei eddieellis

nice updates on texturing the baby! creapy!!:eek: and DaddyMack's idea is cool!
cheers !

10 October 2005, 01:10 PM
Yup a pity the mother couldn't be human, but good work anyways, keep it up! Giger's work is great...


10 October 2005, 01:53 PM (

Hey Guy's, ok i see your point, i have tried to doa human mother this morning and got this far... but the more i do it the less it like the idea..

So i think im going to have to make an artists decision and go with my original idea, with alittle change in mind... ive decided to have the mother (demon) sitting in a thrown with birth stirups given birth.... the human mother idea is a sound one, but kindda puts a comedy element into the peice and to be honest thats not me.

So i hope you guy's will bear with me, as im kind of a sicko and really need to go with the horror twisted feel... But hey if it doesn't work out then you can all say i told you so.... lol

10 October 2005, 03:36 PM
Hey Eddie i'm sure your vision is gonna be great, and eye candy for us all. There are no rights or wrongs in creating an image just hunches and gut feelings. Follow your own path my friend and above all enjoy yourself.

10 October 2005, 05:13 AM
The way with a "normal" mother is very good Eddie :thumbsup: the contrast will be spectacular for sure... :D

10 October 2005, 12:56 PM
Hey Guy's, ok i see your point, i have tried to doa human mother this morning and got this far... but the more i do it the less it like the idea..

So i think im going to have to make an artists decision and go with my original idea, with alittle change in mind... ive decided to have the mother (demon) sitting in a thrown with birth stirups given birth.... the human mother idea is a sound one, but kindda puts a comedy element into the peice and to be honest thats not me.

So i hope you guy's will bear with me, as im kind of a sicko and really need to go with the horror twisted feel... But hey if it doesn't work out then you can all say i told you so.... lol


Go totally nuts on her then mate;)

10 October 2005, 05:45 PM
So i hope you guy's will bear with me, as im kind of a sicko and really need to go with the horror twisted feel...

Absolutely! Its your vision and if you want to go twisted we can only cheer you on :thumbsup:

So go! It's going to be cool to see her totally wacko :twisted:

10 October 2005, 08:10 PM
Ha ha ha... Eddie...
She looks like my mom when she's angry :eek:

Good continuation :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 09:11 PM (

Hey Guy's

thought i would do some work on compersition to give you an idea of what i am trying to attcheive.. i also did some more work on texturing the little one, just to give him more of a fresh born look. all mothers and fathers out there will know what im talking about.

10 October 2005, 10:47 PM (

alittle better compersition i think and some work on depth of field..

Crits ?

10 October 2005, 08:37 AM
Urrgghh - the awfulness continues - great :thumbsup:

I think the DoF is a good idea and perhaps also give the mother a less symmetric face? Right now, she and the baby have quite similar expressions and twisting her a bit might change that.
Nice website, so this is your new workplace? cool :cool:

10 October 2005, 08:46 AM
Hey Gunilla, yep thats my new work.... and its soooooo cool

Will do some work on the face and body today, hopefully ill be going with something like this.

And i be sorting out the face expressions too, hopefully do some work in zb. i was going to use it for the baby , but to be honest i dont think he needs it.

10 October 2005, 11:45 AM
eddie .. definitely sick stuff .. and love it .. such a reverse from the cutsey girl and monster from last one :thumbsup:

good luck with it and waiting for more :)

10 October 2005, 02:00 PM (

Hey guys, done alittle more on the mothers body and shall be finishing of the hand and then putting it through zb.

any thoughts so far ?

10 October 2005, 07:43 PM (

another little update for you guy's.....

Good Art is supposed to be contravertial.... is this image ?

10 October 2005, 07:34 AM
naaa.. this image is not too strong to my stomic anyway... giving birth is a part of life, even for a "devilgirl" i guess... :) you doing good progress... gonna be fun to see the mom´s body with that "skin"
you go eddie!... :wip:

10 October 2005, 04:18 PM
lol... thanks mate

10 October 2005, 04:32 PM
Holy immaculate misconception! hahah. How did I miss this messed up project? In about 2 years your son will start acting like the kid in your picture.

You should give the baby a cel phone and a briefcase...

10 October 2005, 04:33 PM
That's looking great. Good job so far on everything, I have nothing to crit.

10 October 2005, 04:38 PM
This image just gives me constant pain... congrats :scream::thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 04:59 PM
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WOW, WOW, WOW That IS really awesom stuff, mate. And, yes yure not just BAD, you're EVIL man, Eddie Ellis.

10 October 2005, 05:17 PM
WOW, WOW, WOW That IS really awesom stuff, mate. And, yes yure not just BAD, you're EVIL man, Eddie Ellis.

Maybe he's just its father? :twisted: :eek: :scream:

10 October 2005, 05:27 PM
soapy : lol, you may joke but thats the image i get on his 4am feed....

coCoKNIght : good to see you back and thanks for the encouragement

Gunilla : Its only the biggining

suk-grigorij : I try my best my friend, i buttered you up with my M&S thread, and im dunna knock you all down with this

(o)ne : just call me bob (bealsibob that is)

10 October 2005, 05:29 PM
the big secret is out... Eddie is the father... :eek: no wonder you catch this scene so well then, you was there when it happend... haha :p

10 October 2005, 05:35 PM
its a photo from my digi camera really, just touched up in photoshop

10 October 2005, 05:39 PM
i was never gone, i just don't like to say how good everything is and that i've nothing to crit all the time :D
btw. her expression is veryvery good, really looks like she's giving birth and like it's hurting the HELL out of her :scream:

10 October 2005, 05:54 PM (

another little update for you guy's.....

Good Art is supposed to be contravertial.... is this image ?

F£%king EVIL ! Really strange composition ! great !

10 October 2005, 07:16 PM
How terrific!:scream: ...Congrats man:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:23 PM (

Hey guy's little update on the mother texture... i know the specular level is off, but i want to get the texture right before doing bumps and spec channels.

10 October 2005, 07:37 PM
That's... disturbing.

10 October 2005, 07:43 PM
why thank-you

10 October 2005, 04:53 AM
Disturbing ? for sure, but terribly original nightmare... :D

Congratulations to the Father... Eddie ? :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 10:53 AM
I'm well and truely out of my comfort zone when i view your last update, which is a good thing, it takes great skill to achieve good horror without being overkill. Keep up the great work Eddie.

10 October 2005, 11:29 AM
Eddie,'s a cool stuff man! I see you well realizing that idea! Fine expressions. "HOT" topic. expressive theme. Just keep rockin! Only crit: moms face looks flat a bit. The baby's face looks very well rounded, but mom's face is not as rounded. Its not too important but moms face is seen a below viewpont. Personal taste you know. Go on your own way :buttrock:


10 October 2005, 05:26 PM
Make some bumpmaps, dude. Maybe there some truth in (o)ne's words? HEHEHE:twisted:

10 October 2005, 06:17 PM
absolutly great eddiee, wierd and :applause: :applause: .
have a great evening and dont get to close to your son never now what can happen.
see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 09:16 PM (

Hey Guy's, put some hair and alittle work on the bump map today...

I have to admit its starting to gross me out alittle.... which is something that doesn;t happen allot to me.... lol

10 October 2005, 09:21 PM
Lemog : thanks man.. im sure its not an image that comes to many peoples mind

handlebar : Cheers dude, im glad you like it, and the comfort zone is a thing of the past i think... lol

Tremoside : Hey buddy, i know what your saying, but hopefully that will be fixed when i start to texture the face, but im having alittle trouble with it at the mo, as everytime i put some colour in it, she looks like a cheap

suk-grigorij : there you go my friend, some bumps for you

alex.h. : cheers buddy and thanks for dropping by

10 October 2005, 10:40 PM
I have to admit its starting to gross me out alittle.... which is something that doesn;t happen allot to me.... lol

hahaha, but good work man! it's looking beautifully ugly :scream: haha

10 October 2005, 09:40 AM
Cheers man, im going for Beautifully disturbing

10 October 2005, 09:42 AM
Lemog : thanks man.. im sure its not an image that comes to many peoples mind

It's sure... and you give us an another proof with your last update... I can't imagine more... :scream: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 10:42 AM
Oh my, now that is getting nasty. How about some glistening slime?

10 October 2005, 11:10 AM
ouuuuhhhhh, well i have let to do the blood, so watch this space.... slime.... and you think im disturbed... llol

10 October 2005, 11:13 AM
lol that is sick!!

10 October 2005, 11:47 AM
This image just made my day - you need help man! Although not with your modeling skills I might point out.

Congrats on a totally unique concept, how about a devil father fainting in the background?

This is gonna be a classic!

10 October 2005, 12:05 PM
Hey Swamps.. thanks man... been thinking about the background for the last couple of days... and to be honest the only thing i liked the idea of is a really dank room and a beaten up blood stained cot in the distance.

Any thoughts ?

10 October 2005, 12:15 PM
Yeah maybe... How about several sinister looking forms standing in the background? You wouldn't have to model much as they'd be more effective in shadow (or maybe they are shadows), just their prescence would be really creepy - like they're some evil devil types witnessing the birth of the anti-christ or something. Could be really spooky...

10 October 2005, 12:18 PM
oooohhhhh, im liking that idea

10 October 2005, 12:26 PM
...and the kid should be looking at the camera and giving the finger! :D

10 October 2005, 02:17 PM
Ouch - last update is ... Yuck! Great work :thumbsup:
I think Swamps is onto something here... the crowd, just like in "Rosemarys baby". Could be very creepy.
I can't get over how different this one is compared to your last one ... amazing and I love to get surprised :)

10 October 2005, 08:56 PM (

Hey Guy's just a bit of fun while i think of the background..

Done some more work on Bumps, and will probably be working on the blood flow next.

10 October 2005, 08:58 PM
:eek: Gahhh this is just horrible ! heheheh
Perhaps you may work a little more on the baby's hand posing.

10 October 2005, 02:46 PM
agree, some kind of ppl/devils in the background.
warn´t you the father Eddie? maybe we can see a glimse of you then :p

10 October 2005, 03:59 PM (

Hey Guy's, been toying with an idea of having an evil preist in the background. i kindda like the firey effect in the distance.. but i watched Constintine again today and also like the idea of a burning city with all its minions watching... not sure what do you guy's think ?

10 October 2005, 04:29 PM
I think the texture for her leg is amazing...! The rest too, but really - that leg is killing me :bowdown:

For background I still like the idea of the evil crowd but a burning city could be pretty cool too.

10 October 2005, 04:40 PM
Good bumpmapping, but you could do better. Plus I'm not sure about the shaders. Are you going to leave'me like that, or you plan some more work?

10 October 2005, 05:40 PM
loking great eddiee, were is the slime and blod ? i think it could youse some juises.
great work and see you later mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:34 PM (

Hey guy's done alittle work on juices as requested, just alittle ... and mainly on the face.

Not sure if it looks right... what do you think ?....

Blood will be coming next

10 October 2005, 07:42 PM
Gunilla : thanks man, I like that part too, and will be trying to get the face texture just as good

suk-grigorij : Thanks man, not quite finished with the bumps yet so watch this space.. regarding the shaders im quite happy with them at the moment, there are a few things that need to be improved, but all in good time

alex.h. : Cheers dude and see above

10 October 2005, 08:28 PM
Ummm... Eeeyyeeeewwwww!

LYW Eddie:applause:

10 October 2005, 05:38 AM
Yeark... horrible :scream: great :thumbsup:

remember Eddie... if you need, there's much flesh (disgusting) textures on my website... that can be usefull for you my friend... :beer:

10 October 2005, 01:37 AM
lol, that's sick (the disgusted sick that is). Want to stop teenage girls from having babies? Just show them this:D .

10 October 2005, 06:05 AM (

When I see this image, I'm feeling sick... I think that the effect is made a success...
Great job on texture !

10 October 2005, 09:26 AM (

Hey Guy's, sorry been alittle slack in the updates for the last couple of day's but ive not been too well.

Anyway i had an idea to up the sick level of this image thanks to LEMOG's texture site (awsome site by the way mate) and come up with this.

10 October 2005, 11:05 AM
OMG .... i have never felt like this ..... this is very horrible but in the mean time a master peace! I hope you bring us a spectacullar final image.

PS: I think the little 'cute' baby needs to be with some moisture on him....

10 October 2005, 02:58 PM (

Hey Guy's, started alittle work on the glu today... not happy with the shader yet, but will sort out sometime soon.

10 October 2005, 03:17 PM
Euuww :eek:

What are the white thingies... some kind of larvas?

I shouldn't have looked at this right before eating :banghead::banghead:

10 October 2005, 03:23 PM
lol... their maggots mate... need to texture better i guess !

10 October 2005, 09:54 AM (

Hey guy's been working on this idea for the background.... im torn between either having an evil priest or a monk like robed figure where you cn only see his jaw and hands ?

What do you guy's think ?... or is it alittle too much for one picture ?

10 October 2005, 11:26 AM
my wote goes to, monk like robed figure... but not too scary so it draws the att. from the :twisted:-baby...

10 October 2005, 12:45 PM
It could work... the shapes looks fine in the comp I think. Perhaps making him a bit aetheral/spirit something? "Unflesh" besides the "fleshy" mother and baby could look really cool.

And please, don't texture better - this is way more than I can stand already... maggots! Urrk! :thumbsup::bounce:

10 October 2005, 05:15 PM
makaron : yep deffinately mate.... think i might add some more DOF later.

Gunilla : Spirit sounds like a good idea, think i need to take alittle break form the project. PLus need to sort out the baby texture, as im not happy with the wet look at the moment.

Grrrrrrr : tried to put that moisture, but need to do more test as im not happy with the result yet... and thanks for dropping by.

gpepper : Sweet, that the emotional response im looking for.... lol

ace4016 : lol.. might send it round to all the schools round my area to kurb that pregnancy rate.

Lemog : Hey Mate, your site is awsome and you have some sick flesh textures, which gave me the idea for the maggots .... thanks dude.

DaddyMack : Always a pleasure my friend

10 October 2005, 05:23 PM
Quite an amazing birth you've got there. I think thats the first one i've seen here on CGTalk. And I must say, I think any birthings in the future are going to have to be pretty extreme to top this. Great job man.

A few suggestions, Definately add more "slim" to the baby and the "mother". Make it look as wet and messy as possible.

10 October 2005, 07:43 PM
Those maggots are a nice touch.

Are you going to add more creepy crawlys down there ??

10 October 2005, 05:49 AM
Lemog : Hey Mate, your site is awsome and you have some sick flesh textures, which gave me the idea for the maggots .... thanks dude.
hahahaha... but I don't have maggots in my site ? :scream: hahaha
Well, if that can help, it's the principal... I'm waiting the monk now... for your so horrible masterpiece :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 07:24 AM
yeah, this one's really crazy entry :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 03:57 PM
Gunilla : Spirit sounds like a good idea, think i need to take alittle break form the project. PLus need to sort out the baby texture, as im not happy with the wet look at the moment.

yes, I think that the baby could do with some more SWSS, Slimey Wet Slippery Stuff. Perhaps you could try some blobmesh? That could be cruel :twisted:

A break is definitely a good thing - look at so much beautiful things you can so you get ready to grasp the nasty again :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 08:57 PM
Wow, that is pretty gross stuff, but I like it. The skin on the leg looks really realistic, the viens and strech marks are a nice touch. Keep up the good work. Alexi.

10 October 2005, 09:06 PM
a image can for sure affect the veiwer... :thumbsup:
I don´t think I´m gonna use maggots next fishingtrip, you never know where they coming from :p

10 October 2005, 06:49 PM
Hi Eddie, quite intriguing concept :) i'm waiting to see the final product. Good luck to you (though it doesn't seem like u'll be needing it!) :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 08:10 PM
detached : thanks man, i try to be original... im trying with the slim, but cant seem to find a good result.. going to try using blobmesh if i can find a good tut on how to do it.

Agent_Orange : No , no more creepy crawley's as i dont want to over do thing.

Lemog : i have a few more things to do before i start on the monk, i think im going to go for a kindda ringwraith type of creature but as a elemental spirit (which is on fire)... dont know quite how to do that .. but will give it my best shot

(o)ne : i try :)

Gunilla : hey buddy, swss is coming.. do youknow how to use bloobmesh ?

alexichabane : thanks man and thanks for droping by

makaron : lol... hopefully it will be one that you repulsed but cant keep your eye;'s off

Digital_Rebellion : thanks mate

10 October 2005, 06:05 AM
Blobmesh - sure! Here's ( a tut for using it with particles. You could also use manually created helpers for building the mesh, blobs/metaballs is really good for making mucus gooey stuff. I love it!
good luck sliming away:thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 08:16 PM
Goodluck Ed, I'm watching you dude...:thumbsup: (More goo)

10 October 2005, 09:44 AM
Eddie, Eddie, Eddie... You are one sick MF!
Good to see ya here mate. It's been a long time!

I agree with the "more slime" opinion. Imagine when you get a chinese take-away, and the chicken chop suey has leaked all over the bag... THATS how much slime you need...

Keep up the good work dude.

The Ton

10 October 2005, 04:54 PM
makaron : lol... hopefully it will be one that you repulsed but cant keep your eye;s off

true, I´m sneaking in on your thread, again... but, I just dare to look at the :twisted:-child with one eye... :eek: and hoping it gets more slimy soon...

10 October 2005, 12:03 PM
So Eddie - what's happening with your slime? :scream:

10 October 2005, 03:52 PM
Hey Eddie, that's soooooooo gross but bl**dy brilliant! Keep going with the gore factor. :bounce:

10 October 2005, 12:42 AM
You added slime and gets sicker and sicker by the day! lol, the funny part is that we are all encouraging this. Keep it up man:thumbsup: .

10 October 2005, 02:13 PM (

Hey Guy's,
done alittle work on the hands of the evil monk... tried to texture it, but haven't got a good result yet.

Hope ya like

10 October 2005, 02:18 PM
Gunilla : Hey Mate, still testing on the goo, but i havent'e been able to attachieve a good result yet , so will keep at it.

Buckie : Hey Bukie me old muker , thanks man

The Ton : hey mate, got to be about 4 years a reckon, and im not sick its the voices that tell me what to do.

Claireabella : thanks mate, but think i need to do the modeeling first then will rev up the goo factor

ace4016 : lol... yep you guys are all sick .

10 October 2005, 02:34 PM
looks great mate, nice hands, see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

10 October 2005, 05:10 PM
Awful pair of hands there... love them :)

10 October 2005, 08:26 PM
cheers guys, i actually managed to do them in ZB

10 October 2005, 08:58 PM
I think that the monkhand on the :twisted: -childs back does the image complete... hope to see the rest of the monk soon...

10 October 2005, 10:10 PM (

Hey guy's the last bit of texturing, before i call it a night tonight.

11 November 2005, 09:38 PM
Still very creepy, mate... when will we see the rest of him? :bounce:

11 November 2005, 04:31 AM
And the horror show continue... good :thumbsup:

Just the nails which appear a little bit odd, very visible at right...

11 November 2005, 06:30 AM
Hahah, so nasty! Bring it on.

11 November 2005, 07:27 AM
Hahah, so nasty!
:scream: that's true... very very 'dark&terror'... :wip: