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07 July 2005, 01:29 PM
Hi everyone,
Short animation I started.
Still much to do both on the shots which i've done up until now, and of course the 4 shots (according to the story board) which i haven't yet started.
3D studio max, CAT, Vray, After Effects 6.5 and... thats it.
Tchaikovsky's Valse Sentimentale (Op.51 No.2).

Anyway, posting to get comments on my work so far. Its very important for me to hear some good crits.

thanks for your time!

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(if the streaming file works slowly, you can download the file itself at )

07 July 2005, 03:04 PM
nice atmosphere and character flow very nicely with the music :D

07 July 2005, 07:47 PM
nice atmosphere and character flow very nicely with the music :D

thanks mate :)
any crits regarding the animation? it is the main issue here after all....

07 July 2005, 08:40 PM

i like the shading and the mood of the light with the glow....
also a nice idea, you got a good feeling for the atmosphere.

keep it up

07 July 2005, 08:42 PM
woah... i watchet it again...
man, it's genius *lol*

07 July 2005, 11:47 PM
as far i can see the animation is very good ... the hands turning the glass and other small details u dont notice at first give those simple forms life ...

as for technical advice i dont know as im not into 3d animation myself :blush:

07 July 2005, 04:33 AM
Very moody and subtle character animation which, in my opinion, is harder to do than your average cartooney stuff. Good job with animation... im feelin it.
A moment that needs attention is when the glass makes contact with the table (0:24)... looks like the hand jumps.
Another moment is the single finger pushing the glass away slightly (0:36)... the glass slides a bit too far.
Overall, I can't say I like the cliche ending this seems to be heading toward. Its unfinished though... maybe you'll surprise me.

07 July 2005, 06:51 AM
Hey everyone!

thanks for all the good commentary.
Jesuislinus - Very glad you liked it mate :)
Vahn - Thanks again. Its time to start learning some animation then, isn't it? :D
HanningK - Hola, thanks. 0:24 has been pointed out to me by a friend and will be taken care of. Regarding the glass being pushed by the finger.. its a rather intricate matter. at first it used to, as you suggested, push it very little. the problem is that the camera movement, which i can't give up, contradicts the movement and one could HARDLY see it moving at all. Even now its difficult to spot, i think. Do you still think i should have it pushed less?
About the ending.. I have a few more shots to make; putting the bullts in the gun, closing the case, etc. but i'm still not sure about the end. having him put a bullet in his head, i think, is indeed too predictable. on the other hand i don't want a commit or parodical ending such as having the chandalire fall and kill him just before he squeezes the trigger so.. any idea's would be appreciated :D

thanks again blowks

07 July 2005, 10:15 AM
absolutely amazing! illumination is.... perfect? you've done a fantastic atmosphere. animation is very very cool. the movement of fingers is extraordinary, amazing, one of better i've never seen.

Really, a work of 10! :buttrock:

Major Bootay
07 July 2005, 01:09 PM
Was really looking forward to this when I saw the look of it and was very impressed. The only crit I can see is when he drops his head (0:24) it looks like it need just the smallest adjustment somehow. Soften it maybe? or maybe its just that his head drops down and his body/shoulders dont shift to compensate for the weight change? (if you let your head fall like that you'll see) Other than that I love the bit where he rests his head (0:33 - 0:37) perfect!

Well done

07 July 2005, 09:01 AM
Rafalon - Thanks buddy, i'm really glad you liked it. Is there any specific place you think I could improve?

Major Bootay - Thanks for the crit mate. I agree about the head dropping, i'll give it another go.

Thanks boys.

07 July 2005, 12:44 PM

am i the only one? or does anybody else like the way it finishes now? it leaves you thinking (will he, wont he, was he going to do it in the first place? is he going to kill himself? is he a murderer thinking about killing his wife? etc....)

good thought provoking pieces seem rarer and rarer these days....

i would leave it as it is, and refine what you have.....



07 July 2005, 01:19 PM
I'm not sure what to think.

As I look at the piece, it's good.

In the end, the gun can mean anything...which is kind of cool in a way.

On the other hand, I had the feeling I didn't find it interesting enough to like it...

I hope you make the story interesting with the last few shots.

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