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05 May 2005, 05:06 PM
Veera Luhtala has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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Not much different from the last one. though I'm not as dissatisfied in it now.

05 May 2005, 05:12 PM (

I've been working on this here Ivan in a basement with no Net. That's my excuse for getting into this challenge so late. I did start early, honest. Burning CDs and lugging them to a Net connection's just, well, not that much work, but there's other business to attend to.

05 May 2005, 05:24 PM (

Notice something familiar about the sorcerer? I do admit to being shamelessly influenced by Eisenstein's Ivan the Terrible. I've tried not to look up images of the chap though, in order to have at least a bit of originality in the character. I think the original might've had this Fu Manchu -moustache. Mine doesn't.

You'll see that I've cleverly Photoshop'd four images into one: the first one is so that you'll see my, er, scetchy method, the second is the idea of the sorcerer a bit more clearly, the third's already quite nice, but you can see from the fourth that I changed the position of the arm - something that I'm currently having doubts about. It's nice that he holds the strap with both hands, but the position of the arm on the right bothered me.

05 May 2005, 05:31 PM (

This is another line of inquiry I'm investigating. I was thinking along the lines of livre'd servants and this chap happened to pop out of the old gulliver.

05 May 2005, 05:39 PM (

I quite detest this absolute darling of a king. I'm shocked, even. I don't do cute. I'm not that kind of a person.

We shall have to see how long this creature will manage to survive in the bleak landscape that is my imagination.

05 May 2005, 05:44 PM
Your line work flows nicely, very smooth!

05 May 2005, 05:44 PM (

Just what it says in the title.

05 May 2005, 05:48 PM
Yay, my first ever comment! Thanks, the_mighty_m.

More will follow in a minute.

05 May 2005, 05:50 PM
Thats a cool sketch buddy...i like it!, goodlux!:buttrock:

05 May 2005, 06:00 PM (

This is just about the composition that suits these two chappies. The situation is that of the manifold cutlery. One simply abhors it, the situation, to be more exact. Abhors, like the good old n. does to the v.

05 May 2005, 06:00 PM
I really love the design and pose of the master. Very machiavelic :twisted:
But I don't really understand the pose of the servant. Is he on the clothes ??

05 May 2005, 06:03 PM
Nah, he's hovering, though admittedly it is not quite obvious yet. I inted to bring him out more, and probably add some mystic-swirly-hovery-lighty-things just to be on the safe side.

05 May 2005, 06:20 PM (

It appears that I'm now enjoying the fruits of working with an uncalibrated monitor. The images here seem to be a bit on the pale side, at least when viewed on this monitor. Please adjust your contrast for full viewing pleasure.

Or don't.

Another thing that at this stage, the original image was at least a thousand pixels too small. Photoshop has an annoying lag when I work with brushes bigger than 120 pixels, so starting small seemed quite sensible at the time.

Stupid as I am, I only discovered today that allocating more memory for Photoshop helps. I've been thinking for a year that it's about the processor, but nope, it's about the memory. And that's about the long and the short of my knowledge on hardware.

05 May 2005, 05:17 AM
The master has wonderful body language! Good work!


05 May 2005, 01:50 PM (

The background was a sort of an apropos. Right now it's just 'orrible, but it'll get better.

I was thinking of not doing a background at all, as it is more about the characters. But then it became obvious that without a background, it would be quite difficult to express the particular nature of the spacemonkey's services to the Ivan. Who is in fact a sort of a Rasputin now. Later you will see the addition of the Csar Nikolay on the stairs, having some kind of a fit.

John Keates
05 May 2005, 04:06 PM
I like the theatrical characarisation of this. It will be interesting to see how you pull the compositoin off.

05 May 2005, 06:04 AM
Veera, very nice start, your style is really cool :applause:

05 May 2005, 09:00 AM
i like very much the intense caracteristics of your figure...i think you have to rush to finish it...keep on and good luck

05 May 2005, 11:26 AM
Looking good!

05 May 2005, 11:48 AM
This looks great! What a brilliant style! :)

05 May 2005, 02:45 PM (

I started at the wrong end with the stairs. Then I figured out that I simply am not able to suggest the architecture with cunning brushwork only.

There's really no perspective to speak of, but that's ok. This piece isn't going to be very realistic, in any sense of the word.

05 May 2005, 02:51 PM

And thanks for all the kind words, people.

05 May 2005, 10:10 AM (

The closer I get to finishing this, the worse it becomes.

05 May 2005, 10:14 AM (

The czar became something that's not really a czar. Some sort of an admiral, probably.

05 May 2005, 10:18 AM (

The sorcerer got an ear, and the ear was good, but everything else just bothers me immensely.

05 May 2005, 07:42 AM (

Not much different from the last one. though I'm not as dissatisfied in it now.

05 May 2005, 08:13 AM
Oh, no! This is good a paint, but in my humble opinion, painting looks unfinished to me.. If you had strenght and nerves still left, please render more those surfaces.. thought master and servant-challenge is passed by time.

05 May 2005, 09:01 AM
Thanks preacha. And yes, you're right. It is unfinished, but on the other hand I had no idea what to do with it, so I just went and posted it. I think I need a breather before I touch it again.

An excuse for some of the brushmarks that are a bit too visible is that the monitor I'm working with's really dark. I'm not a great believer in smoothness, but yeah, this is a bit too rugged still.

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