Lost Adventurer, Aleks Kirilenko (3D)
LC #42 Pipers Alley

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04-24-2005, 07:16 AM
Hi all!

Ive been inspired by so many artists here 2d and 3d so i gave my butt a kick and get a wacom.
Ive been also reading theories about color and how to get the form right in 2d painting and put it to a practice here....

I trace the form from the photograph but i didnt use the color picker since i want to practice in getting my own palette....(if thats the correct way to say and do it.) And the color mix on the base of the speaker is not that good.

I place a piece of paper on top of my wacom to get the paper texture....wacom surface is way too slippery for me.

Stroke and color practice...hehehe

i hope i can get comments from the gurus from this site. :)


04-24-2005, 09:29 AM
I think you are already quite good at drawing digitally... good mixing of colors, and nice strokes for a first.
Also good color choices, and great that you are trying to pick colors manually :D

I like it.. do some more.. perhaps try to not trace, and leave out the "lineart" that comes when you trace. Just define the shapes only with color and shadow :D

04-24-2005, 11:03 AM
Thank you Swoop....its an encouragement to me...
I jumped to do an update as soon as I read your reply!:D

Yeap there is a universe can be done about my stroke...if i were to leave the 'lineart' on, it'll be ugly....maybe i'll post it when i gets a lil' bit bettah...ehhehe
Thats y i have to put a paper over my wacom coz its like doing it on paper instead of 'skating' on the tablet with ur pen! :p

Here's some update....trying my hand on detailing...se how far my patience can get me:p


05-01-2005, 03:15 PM
I dont know why i posted this. just ignore

Its a color practice that i did. I trying out hue, saturation and value.

And on the other pic, ive sketched out the basic colors for my composition...But how do you determine the number of values in the pic like some people have done?



05-01-2005, 06:10 PM
I guess i hafta start with doing it in B&W before moving to colors, as most artists here starts with.

Understanding how to get the form by playing with values before getting to hue....hehehe

O well...


05-01-2005, 07:04 PM
A light study with a cellphone....

Trying to get use to sketching on wacom..... loooong waaayyyy to learn.

http://img157.echo.cx/img157/3943/color48st.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

05-02-2005, 11:49 AM
A tutorial from Craig Mullins sets me off....

I started with dark value....working through midtones....then higher values.....
very good exercise to eccentuate the form in 2d painting....

Still so much to learn abt colors.

Mouse.....10 minutes

http://img157.echo.cx/img157/7637/color56tz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

05-02-2005, 07:38 PM
I wanna try my color toning out to i sketch and color it by refering to the original photo....but ive learned not to use the color picker.

I'll try to acquire the hues and values myself.

Well here goes....

Alot of correction on the anatomy but in the end still its two different person with two different body built. the original girl just touching gently the shoes but the sketch is really pulling her heels and she got obviously longer neck than the original...

...but im skipping that part coz this i wanna try coloring....

2B pencil on copy paper....approx 1 hour

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/7024/ellie3rt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/1374/ellie025gg.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/4635/ellie038zt.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

05-02-2005, 07:39 PM
This is the original gal...

I love model shots coz the lighting resembles a painting so much ....a kind of composition style that i like, one properly positioned light source...accentuate the form and all.

http://img174.echo.cx/img174/2381/ellieoriginal9hx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

05-16-2005, 06:25 AM
a thread full of my own avatar! lalalalaaaa...

posting an update tonite....

05-16-2005, 06:43 AM
Maranello go right ahead posting, this is a forum, it's healthy to get your thoughts somewhere past the front of your own mind or you own computer. I'm fine with what you're learning and sharing with us, I'm seeing improvements. Just try to spend as much time as you feel is deserved for each study and you've got yourself in a healthy pattern developing.

Keep on going!

05-16-2005, 05:24 PM
Thanks tdamcbigity (http://www.cgtalk.com/member.php?u=135024)! Thanks for replying and good words from you.

Yeap..Looks like im just putting my thoughts on the net thats all.'
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Some progress....painting the dark tones first......then some midtones....

I try not to follow the form n lighthing too much....since the my sketch is way off the original anyway...Im trying to learn shadow and light first...eheheh

http://img16.echo.cx/img16/4863/ellie047mn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

Wacom + Photoshop + 30 minutes.

05-16-2005, 05:39 PM
Hi there!
I like seeing these kind of threads! I am newbie as you, keep doing your sketches and practice a lot! Use a lot of reference picture to learn the basic shape drowing technics. Keep posting!


05-29-2005, 03:16 AM
Ah after so long i finally got time to get back to this one.....I did a little detailing on her and i put my understanding on color and values to test....I dont want to carry too much similarities to the original photo coz i want to have my own value, palette on the painting....

Im a newbie so be easy on me....:D

http://img287.echo.cx/img287/7780/ellie058zc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

05-29-2005, 03:19 AM
I had some difficulties with the form and i draw some overlays as a guide not to lose the from while painting the shadows and highlight.....i spent almost two hours to get to this...:sad:

http://img287.echo.cx/img287/649/ellie069rx.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

.....and thanks all and BrutalMonk for the support!

05-29-2005, 04:00 AM
looks good, maybe some a little more color to the skin, more pink or something...

05-29-2005, 10:54 AM
Yeap....i couldnt agree more....skin tone looks dead....

Here are some minor updates....the waist line looks humungous on the previous ones....so i trimmed it down....and added a pink hue to the skin....

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/4885/ellie073ed.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/9227/ellie085za.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img270.echo.cx/img270/1998/ellie090on.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

05-29-2005, 11:47 AM
i dunno if the wacom works with photoshop but why you dont set the basment color on that art and the you just use some tools to make it more clearer.

Anyway if you just used the wacom its pretty accurate for now.

05-29-2005, 11:50 AM
i dunno if the wacom works with photoshop but why you dont set the basment color on that art and the you just use some tools to make it more clearer.

Anyway if you just used the wacom its pretty accurate for now.

*omg , plz delet this post*

05-29-2005, 11:53 AM
Yeah doode...i get wut u mean....I actually started with the dark values that has been set as the base....then working up to mid values and then high values.... In term of cleanliness, i think i need more practice...like any other stuff lol!!

Im just using the standard brush and playing with opacity and pressure sensitivity. I think its not time for me to use custom brush yet.

Do i get you right, man?

05-29-2005, 12:42 PM
well i think you understood me half.

i didnt meaned anything with brushes at all. I mean... why you just dont place the basecolors on this art and then u use in Photoshop Blur/sharp/dodge/burn and staff.

thats what i mean.

05-29-2005, 12:49 PM
well i think you understood me half.

i didnt meaned anything with brushes at all. I mean... why you just dont place the basecolors on this art and then u use in Photoshop Blur/sharp/dodge/burn and staff.

thats what i mean.

I don't like using that way as i find you have less control over the colour. I prefer doing it colour by colour , i find it to be much more fun but more time consuming.

05-29-2005, 12:56 PM
well im a lazy guy so i dislike to make me everything harder then i could do it.
also its not wrong to do color by color. But you can finish if faster with the blur tool... you can use a normal color and then a 25% darker color... then use blur tool and you will have a great result instead to place each color itself and then get a "artistic" view.

05-29-2005, 03:21 PM
hmm i sort of like the painterly look that you had going before...however, i know you're still working but if the rest is gonna look like this you should try smoothing it out more then.

05-29-2005, 03:42 PM
Hey guys, thanks a bunch for the feedbacks!! I really appreciate it!:D

TryForce - Ok now i get what u mean finally. Yeap...actually i just tried that out (laying the base colors and blur them out to mix them) ...and i kinna like the effect but its a bit flat coz i love to see, well almost, the stroke (well not evrywhere....):rolleyes: ..like an artistic filter is PS.:wise:
Blue demo - Yess!! Fun! thats why we do this rite!?:bounce:

hpslashluvr - Got that ma'am!

05-29-2005, 05:34 PM
A minor update....

We all know all this while there is something wrong with the arm......the elbow location is not aligned with the inner elbow...so i fixed that and some shading issues also on the arm.

I liked working on the chest area because it is interesting mixing colors there to indicate greenish illumination coming from the shirt. It makes a painting alot more lively (i think) if you include some illumination...it also characterise the material property of the shirt as well.....as only shiny or glossy material can reflect color like that (i think).....

http://img61.echo.cx/img61/7751/ellie104gz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

05-30-2005, 02:49 PM
An puny update on the chest area and a bit detailing there as well....Got rid of the boring and gloomy BG and leave it white and let my imagination go wild....hmmmm...wut can be done.....http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/shrug.gif

http://img288.echo.cx/img288/8061/ellie116vs.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

05-30-2005, 05:07 PM
i sort of like the white...i think there could be a plain bg, maybe with a few items.

05-31-2005, 02:56 AM
I think so. More contrast this way compared to the gloomy one earlier..hmmm...thinking of an outdoor scene, or a fantasy one...but...anyway....back to it later...

Thanks all for the support!!:bounce:

06-05-2005, 12:57 PM
Hey Dude!

Realy great skills in painting! :thumbsup:

She looking very nice so far and realy good coloring!

Keep it up, no critique so far ;)

Cheers Alex

06-05-2005, 01:32 PM
a begginer you say???
well i got to say this is really good for a newbie.
keep posting.

06-05-2005, 01:39 PM
doing good there mate.the colors are very well observed.more updates please!!http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/bouncy.gif

06-05-2005, 05:30 PM
stop replying to other people's threads and go update! *shakes fist*

06-05-2005, 05:40 PM
oh and could you post the links to where you read about theory and so on+

06-05-2005, 08:30 PM
Yeah man! You're procrastimalising...:curious:

06-06-2005, 01:52 PM
Argh!! Im overwhelmed! I never thought that anyone would be interested in my thread...to have you guys commenting my work...this is a kick-on-the-ars* for me to get back to it! :thumbsup:

vampeta - Hey man....thanks a bunch....honored to have you here...the GSO master himself..Im humbled.

Skurai - yeap Skurai...I am a beginner in digital 2d painting..but I have draw few lines on paper before... :scream: YEap...Although i have not much to share about theory...I'll post some links soon mate!

ms@zx (ms@zx) - hey mate! Nice to see you here! Im flattered...I'll post an update soon!

hpslashluvr - Ow..alrite...i'll getting back to it now *getting the remote with a big bowl of pop corn*

jmBoekestein - hey i only have one..u have three nymphs and you have been procrasti-wut-sing????? LOL....

06-07-2005, 05:23 PM
I found out that i will learn nothing but stroke and color matching with that previous exercise....so i practice with my skin tone for the first time!! I took me soo long...but it was lots and lots of fun...:bounce:

6 hours?? yeap....

http://img279.echo.cx/img279/4125/face8qn.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

http://img98.echo.cx/img98/8892/face4ae.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

06-07-2005, 05:29 PM
great lips...eyes are a bit large...but who cares, I shouldn't be talking...I think you need to work in more cool colors and brown/yellow/peaches...I prolly already told you about enayla's skin tut...it hasn't quite worked for me yet but *shrugs*...and don't worry about the 6 hrs...sometimes it takes me that long too, just to think of something to draw x.x;;

can you explain how you did the lips?

06-07-2005, 08:40 PM
yep yep, nice lips, the rest is nice to but i got to say you did the lips the best.
post some links dude!!:D

06-08-2005, 01:21 PM
I think the lips alone is great....looking at the face as a whole...u see a concave, moonlike face...with a squashed nose...(i hate to do noses...maybe manga influence, again..lol).

Thanks for liking them guys! im flattered by ur support.

This is how i did the lips...

http://img82.echo.cx/img82/8828/facelips1jz.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

First I just sploched around that lips area to get a nice shape. Use a lusher, red color than the skin.

When you finally got the shape, u need to play with the form of the lips. On mine, I put a shade of purple (thanks, Enayla) as shading at the upper lips (3)to indicate its depth and the light is coming from above.

I kept the tones of the lower lips as it was ..or did i made it lighter. Anyway...u can just play and undo if it sucks. And since the light is coming from above, and if you want to make your lips looks shiny, naturally, do a highlight with a bright color (2)....the stroke of it should follow the crooks (i dunno wut to call it) on your lips.

Then I gave a little dark line in between the lips to accentuate depth further....(1)

Finally, I created highlights at (4) to make the whole lips pop out a little bit more while keeping (5) dark coz its below the nose....( i hate doing nose...yeah i told you before already.)

06-08-2005, 01:34 PM
o Yeah Skurai....here are the links that ive been following. Ive learnt alot from these masters.

Niklas Jansson (http://itchstudios.com/psg/art_tut.htm)

and of course,

Linda Bergkvist (http://www.furiae.com/index.php?view=gallery) and check the 'thoughts on skintones' and since we are on it 'lip tutorial' (you can just purge all the things ive written above....sucks :rolleyes: ) and 'nose tutorial'.

06-08-2005, 08:10 PM
thanks, i have seen both before, but i lost them, so thanks:D

06-09-2005, 06:56 PM
Here are some updates....im still afraid to give it some highlights and hard shadow!!! arrgh!! why why??? *slaphead*

few hours...no ref

http://img194.echo.cx/img194/707/face27vk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

06-14-2005, 07:25 AM
move the bottom half a bit up, or the nose will be too long IMO. i think the eyes themselves are a bit too large still, but it has that deepset look that is very attractive! (i have nothing actually against large eyes) with lovely blue eyes like that, she should have a different color eyeshadow or at least eye shading! either way, 1000000000x better than i can do - this will turn out very nicely. do you do art normally or study it?

06-15-2005, 04:41 PM
move the bottom half a bit up, or the nose will be too long IMO
Yeap I agree with you. But too lazy to do that. (What a useless ****** am i??)
Thanks for the compliments hpslashluvr....i think you are doing better than me at being consistant...I am not....can seem to stick with one sketch and ***** finish it! ehehheh...

Still so much to learn........

What color you think would suit as the eyeshadow?

Ive never studied art in my life (formally that is). But i study it as a subject when im online and when im out at the bookstores. Ive been pasteling on sugarpapers drawing people and stuff...thats all. now im going digital coz u really doesnt have to buy colors and papers...

http://img32.echo.cx/img32/1005/face37gr.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

Sorry youre wrong to think that this is gonna turn out ok...Im just impatient. Strokes and colors everywhere...


06-15-2005, 05:02 PM
it sort of looks more like a man now. not a man man, but like one of those adrogynous (sp?) ppls that you can't tell...i think it may be the brows. also the brows would be lighter imo if the hair was so fair. maybe you are watching anime too but her chin is awfully pointy...maybe you didn't change it but it looks that way.

06-18-2005, 03:54 PM
A small update....but Ive learn some tricks creating custom brush from one of Enayla's tutorials. Man, looking for her tutorials are like a treasure hunt....its everywhere! But it has been fun and I think an added knowledge about the brush is important in my painting vocabulary.

Here is that link to Enayla's brush tut (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=239810&page=1&pp=15).

http://img46.echo.cx/img46/8950/ellie125db.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us/)

hpslashluvr - i think i go back to that chin later on...heheh...yeap im the great procrastinator!

06-28-2005, 09:08 AM
I want more comments!!! Harsh one even...i dont care! :scream: :D

06-28-2005, 04:09 PM
Harsh ones you say...okay....:twisted:

*The blonde haired girl needs a nose. Go away from the anime style a bit...and be brave to ventrue into that realm a bit (yes, most anime styles have noseless characters).
*Same blonde haired girl needs redness around the corners of the cornea...
*Hair....like everything else...has layers that make it more realistic. Therefore I suggest more various blonde locks in her hair...the ones closest to the scalp dark...the ones hitting light, lighter...and a few darker blond and lighter blond...Why don't you look at real life photos of models with blond hair and see for yourself.

Now the other pict...I can't crit on the face because she doesn't have one yet...but...I challenge you to make it as realistic as possible...You have that potential.

Good luck.:thumbsup:

06-28-2005, 11:54 PM
Ohh!!! Nice update, and thanks for the link.
You are really good with reference, i need to try using some later, do you have some good references?

08-04-2005, 02:32 PM
Geez...its been a while...Thanks Skurai and Loulu79! I'll take that challenge and Skurai...im pretty much out of reference now....as you can tell from my work. LOL....

Hey guys..this EXOTIQUE thing...can i use this one as an entry...if i ever managed to finish it that is......

Im the great procrastinator!


p/s: Sorry guys i had to post this thing twice on one page.....just saving u guys on scrolling time.....:curious:

12-01-2005, 08:21 PM
Its been a long time since i use my wacom....

Ive been listening to James Horner's Troy OST.....inspired by the Achilles theme and sketch....finally...

im bad with anatomy so this took 4 hours....No ref. only my bad photographic memory.

If you all can help me with the poses....which one is better ...? I wanna try to put color on this one....heheheh...yeah dream on.


12-28-2005, 05:50 AM
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/9800/05122805copy4bt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I bought the d'artiste book on matte painting...i found it very inspiring indeed and have been practicing since. Especially the tutorials by Dylan Cole. He's technique and workflow is very easy to pick up and understand, even for a guy that have a basic Photoshop knowledge. He explains the reason behind most of his actions that makes u understand better why are you doing things when youre finally doing it.

So here goes....one of many to come...i hope

12-28-2005, 06:04 AM
yea it's a nice book

nice pic too, good feel of distance, nice lighting

way to go dude


12-28-2005, 08:04 AM
I tried to make a panoramic one...like a typical matte...i kinna like doing this...heheeh

[/url][url="http://imageshack.us"]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/9646/05122806copy0cn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

12-28-2005, 12:04 PM
maybe some more highlights and darker areas....but i dunno about this stuff ^^ i got the gnomon dvd by dylan cole and it's great so far. keep posting ;)

12-29-2005, 01:43 AM
Ah....Dylan Cole gnomon.....wait till i get one!

01-02-2006, 05:22 PM
http://img432.imageshack.us/img432/6339/achillescopy26en.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Always being tempted to do this piece from my sketches earlier. I think i getting comfortable with coloring and using my graphire3. This is due to huge amount of reading posts in CGtalk and tips from experts all around. Im really owe alot to you guys. To be able to do this although its not much means alot to me. Thanks.

I am planning to finish up this piece (like wut i said about my other works). Achilles has always intrigues me as a mythical figure. In this painting, im trying to show Achilles and his quest for immortality. As he realises the impenetrable wall of Troy is not easy to breach. But his graps on his spears are not easing down. He is going for it...immortality.

No ref..around 3 hours.

Edit: Please mind the anatomical imperfections since this is just a stroke and color practice...thank you.

01-03-2006, 12:19 PM
Lessons ive learnt from Philip Straubs' Composition Tutorial. :)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1997/achillescopy2edit1ob.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/813/achillescopy2edit24vj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-03-2006, 12:55 PM
Something I did during lunch and after while waiting for a render....Still trying to familiarize with color choices especially on the left side of the painting:)

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3403/06103damiencopy7ul.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-03-2006, 02:26 PM
Wow :eek:

You can be my comp partner! I too have to work on composition. Up to now I haven't touched mine! :arteest:

Oh welll...you're improve a whole lot.

I'm impressed :bowdown:

Keep up the good work... at least I'm not the only one who's slow in response :twisted:

Happy New Year! :beer:

01-03-2006, 02:35 PM
Happy New Year to you too, Loulu79:beer:

Its encouragement like this keeps me going....i appreciate it alot....Thanks for dropping by!

01-03-2006, 05:10 PM
ooooh composition is a biggie for me too ^^

i meant to mention the building being askew but i guess you've fixed that already...his front leg seems just a teeny bit long? *could be wrong* great pic so far...add more contrast maybe...

i like the drippy stuff down the last face you posted >.<

01-08-2006, 08:39 AM
hpslash....thank your for dropping by......Yup...the leg is a teeny bit long....and here are some gesture studies i made...rather backwards tho...(Sorry Rebeccak):D

But Ive found the dynamics of the pose i guess...C n c is always welcomed. And i sorta like flip it coz the previous Achilles was left-handed....I dunno which one is correct but the right hand would be ok...i guess...

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/7318/achillesgesturescopy46df.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-08-2006, 05:09 PM
That's good what you're doing there...the anatomy break down...keep it up!:thumbsup:

01-09-2006, 09:37 AM
Thanks Loulu79! Thanks for dropping by. Actually Rebeccak anatomy thread is has been a big, big help for me.

The links are at http://www.rebeccakimmel.com/ .

Heres a doodle on the armour color scheme....still bloody lazy to start on the body yet.

Edit: 45 minutes i guess...no ref.

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/1466/bodyarmour0sk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-09-2006, 06:05 PM
Good improvement dude! Nice to watch all those cool sketches and stuff

01-10-2006, 08:26 AM
Good improvement dude! Nice to watch all those cool sketches and stuff

Thanks! I just wanna share...hehe.

Here is a compo update on my Achilles piece. I think it'll give a broader feel if i include the sea element, the land and the sky...i dunno..wut u guys think?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4547/achillescompositioncopy4yh.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-10-2006, 08:46 AM
looks great comp wise except it's sort of dead center.

01-10-2006, 09:05 AM
this is quite a thread,some cool stuff going on here .:scream:keep it going mate:)

01-10-2006, 09:57 AM
hpslashluvr - Yeah....the dead center look is intentional and i think only goes to gate..but Achilles is slightly off center. His body curve and the swing of his arms is pointing away and into the composition....i counter that with the curve from the splashing waves.

This curves vs the monolithic, dead-center gate of troy i think can create a subtle contrast..i hope.
My real intention is to come up with 'iconic' type of composition. Thanks!

sh@ke - Hey man...great to see you dropping by and dont just drop by!...drop some precious tips!! :twisted:

This is a quick color study i did....1 hour...no ref...

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3426/achillescolorcopy0fx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-10-2006, 05:35 PM
Further color studies...............
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/6447/achillescolorcopy39tw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-10-2006, 05:49 PM
i sort of liked the colors in the first one better but i know you're going for a stormy look...but the new one just needs some light parts too...maybe a part in the clouds or lighting.

somehow achilles looks funny just standing there so close to the water, almost like he's gonna fall off. but i can't really say that you should change the pose...maybe you just need to break up the monotony of the rocks with some moss or littler rocks/sand - but of course those are details and you haven't done that yet.

01-11-2006, 06:28 PM
yup...still far more to go. Detailing....ermm..later hehehe

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/3360/achillescolorcopy45ig.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


01-11-2006, 06:54 PM
on wich resolution are you working?

01-12-2006, 07:41 AM
on wich resolution are you working?

About three times the res of the above image. i'll get bigger when i down to detail stuff...:thumbsup:

01-14-2006, 09:44 AM
Some of the rocks update....Still getting the forms and stuff right...And i still dunno what going to happening at the background with bright lights....:shrug:

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4369/achillescolorcopy53wy.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-14-2006, 10:41 AM
Highlights...no Achilles....

http://img363.imageshack.us/img363/6587/achillescolorcopy66gw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-14-2006, 02:30 PM
That's what I should be doing! Mastering and perfecting the highlights for the sake of really Great composition.

Damn it I have a lot of the things on my hands. :banghead:

Ooopss :eek: ....my mum just called me for my eye check... :banghead:

I have: My publishing/graphic designing work to be done...Today...to work on this Monday deadline....

I have my Dragonfly/Snail to tweak...EVERSINCE! :banghead:

I have another project for the School of Music to help them out in :banghead:

I have my own 3D animation to finish up for one of those international film fest. NOT complete! :banghead:

And this wonderful fun project here at cgTalk...the Pgymalion Project...Darn! :banghead:

I know I sound like I'm complaining...but in actual fact they're all interesting projects to do...but sooooooooo little time! :cry:

I even schedule myself to wake up around 3:30 am to get those interesting projects done...hopefully at the end of it all....it'll pay off...

How about better composition...yeah...I need that...oooooo...you're making me envious!

Well done maranello55.....make me envious. :p

01-14-2006, 04:27 PM
Loulu!! Hehehh....YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO DO! :scream:
I ENVY U! :scream:
I HAVE ONLY THIS!!:scream:

But I have to put aside lots of things to improve in as short time as i can. Such as my girlfriend....shes furious....:scream:

Anyway...here is an update...im leaving Achilles for last i guess....i know i'll spend years on him...:scream:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/957/achillescolorcopy76pu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-14-2006, 04:42 PM
Loulu!! Hehehh....YOU HAVE SO MUCH TO DO! :scream:
I ENVY U! :scream:
I HAVE ONLY THIS!!:scream:

But I have to put aside lots of things to improve in as short time as i can. Such as my girlfriend....shes furious....:scream:

Anyway...here is an update...im leaving Achilles for last i guess....i know i'll spend years on him...:scream:

http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/957/achillescolorcopy76pu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Hey this composition is looking great! The only thing what looks odd to me is the way the guy is standing, it doesnt feel natural to me.
Keep the updates comming! :D

01-14-2006, 07:42 PM
Heya maranello,

Some nice work you got going on here! You should join us in the next Open Figure Drawing Workshop, which starts next Sunday / Monday ~ I believe we'll be doing a Master Copy of a Painting ~ a great way to improve one's skills! :)

Hope you'll join us!

Cheers, :)


01-14-2006, 11:51 PM
nooooooooooooooooooooooo!! i liked the stormy look better...it seems more suited for the oceany theme. maybe mix it and make it sort of dawn-y looking. mostly i think you're just missing the wet look to those rocks in the foreground.

01-15-2006, 12:54 PM
To be honest, i must say I better luv the blue-ish concept, it has a bit nicer atmosphere.
About the concept i think if you add a few pixel to the upper part, to accent the height of the gate would be cool. And maybe the rocky part of the picture is too long, the half would be enough...

But yours the decision! Keep it up!

01-15-2006, 03:12 PM
Achilles look as if .... he's not standing...I think he's....on the verge of ...of...of....of...um..."pushing off...to the next move."

You know...like he's between mid-air...and standing. It's like the camera shot him in this awkward motion.

Either you have motion blur to give us that hint...which will be one of your finishing touches...or give him a stronger...more obvious pose...

I like it so far...and you're just putting the basic necessities first...before you put a lot of detail. That's very smart...now I should do that to mine....when I get that chance.

Darn! :banghead:

01-16-2006, 05:36 PM
zng-Y - Thanks friend! Ive moved Achilles up to center abit...thats y he lost his footing on the rocks and looks akward...other reason is i havent really found his real pose yet....Cant work on it yet.....arrghhh..!

Rebeccak - OMG....Rebeccak?? On my thread?? Inviting me personally to join the OFDW??? Of course I'll join! Err....depends...on the Master Copy......my girlfriend forbids me from painting nude women....:cry:

hpslashluvr - Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!! I finally change it back to the stormy look with abit of hue and saturation adjustment....Personally i like this updated version too...like you said it suits the oceany theme...and i think i gives more color contrast between the foreground and the background....More comments n tips please!:bounce:

Brutal Monk - Good to see you here, friend....i remember you for your early encouragement on this thread....:) I agree with you totally....the sky seems to be squashed into the picture....few pixies wont be enough i guess...i need to rethink the framing....Thank you the comments! More please!:bounce:

Loulu79 - Whoa...i think thatd be kewl....capturing an in-between-move in a 2d painting...neah....i rather do a still....a motion blur would look too comicy...perhaps.:shrug: But who knows....i might accidently try it and find it to be ok! I dont plan these things so i 'll never know!!

Keep ye snail moving Loulu79! Im anxious to drop a line in ur post!:bounce:

01-16-2006, 05:40 PM
Here is an update.....Just some hue and saturation arrangement to improve the atmosphere...i think the comments posted is really helping me! MOre guys..MORE!! :twisted:

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/934/achillescolorcopy84ov.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-17-2006, 01:36 AM
yummmmmm.....you don't suppose the building is a bit too centralized...why don't you work on placing it a slightly off centre...just for the sake of curiosity.

And good point on my work...one of my characters is a snail...and I'm becoming like one!:argh:


01-17-2006, 04:42 PM
yummmmmm.....you don't suppose the building is a bit too centralized...why don't you work on placing it a slightly off centre...just for the sake of curiosity.

And good point on my work...one of my characters is a snail...and I'm becoming like one!:argh:


Yup...thats intentional...the gates of Troy is a static so-called stage for this scene and i want the only moving thing is Achilles and Hector (yup...that small guy i added on the mid-right rock)

Quick! to your thread and update before u become a full-flesh snail!!

This is an update.....(obviously)...I detailed and color corrected the rocks further....put a wet look to it....repair the splash.....move hector...reduce the fog near the middle line....tab achilles a tad to the left....stretch the sky....change the overall mood....and add detail to hector and move him....

Hope you guys are enjoying this...more to come!!

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3812/achillescolorcopy90os.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

01-17-2006, 04:56 PM
make the rocks more jaggedy!!! i stilll don't really get a wet look offa the rocks but really that is something that you'll prolly work on later.

i prolly wouldn't even have noticed the guy on the rocks (hector?) without you mentioning it. maybe make him just a wee bit more noticeable.

01-18-2006, 09:13 PM
OMG, new stuff.
I just wanted to drop by to say, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK.
You will get great in no time :D

01-19-2006, 05:47 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4154/achillescolorcopy100hm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

hpslashluvr - I think makin the rocks more jaggedy on the foreground might take away the focus from Achilles....I intend to emphasize more on his heels since it is his weakest part.

I read the myth that said the Gods wants to make him an immortal and dip him in the river Styx.....but the Gods forgotten his heels because they held him by it. So only his heels in mortal and i wanna capture this.

Does the rocks looks wet now? :D

I dunno where to put HEctor honestly...we'll just see....:)

Skurai - Thank you my friend.....you have been encouraging since the beginning.:)

01-20-2006, 06:43 PM
oooh it looks a lot better!!! i think you could use some barnacles (or random crap)/seaweed and wear and tear to the rocks too. maybe push the highlights just a little more...maybe make them sharper.

a billion praises to you for doing the bg first! i totally have to admire you for that. ::hug::

01-26-2006, 05:37 PM
An update....................
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1182/achillescolorcopy116qm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
hpslashluvr - Thank you a billion....:) Please dont stop sharing thoughts.

02-07-2006, 02:42 PM
Took a panoramic of a sunset and use a portion on this....wutcha think?

http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/6711/achillescolorcopy122vn.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02-07-2006, 03:20 PM
try desaturating the colors a bit, and then post it again. ^^

02-07-2006, 03:57 PM
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/4154/achillescolorcopy100hm.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Wow! This looks fantastic! Love the water and those rocks.
Great thread. Interesting stuff in here!
Keep going! :thumbsup:

02-07-2006, 04:51 PM
^ i agree keep going, your doing a great job

02-07-2006, 05:21 PM
I think you should put Achilles closer to the 'camera' and stress the length of the leg. Also you should ask Becca for anatomy crits for this type of subject!

02-24-2006, 02:24 AM
Erm....these are some quickie i did yesterday and last nite....around an hour and a half each. Im trying to gather myself before proceeding with my achilles piece.

http://img150.imageshack.us/img150/5923/praire7lk.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/5104/lies4ad.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

For Thee
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/7335/forthee28gf.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02-24-2006, 02:31 AM
paperclip - Yeap...she advised me to join the live figurative workshop....but im so lazeeee...:D

Dl_lncan, MichaelMotion - Thank you guys. :D

hpslashluvr - Yes maam!:p

02-24-2006, 02:40 AM
the latest stuff's are pretty nice~the brush flow and the textures.i most dig the 'lies' piece :)

02-24-2006, 05:08 AM
Another one....1 hour

The Devil's Office
http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/630/thedevilsoffice9pw.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02-24-2006, 05:49 AM
another great piece mate~nice mood study and for 1 hour to come up with the piece is awesome:thumbsup:

02-24-2006, 06:20 AM
Wow, you've improved heaps I just went through the entire thread big changes there for sure! Could you perhaps post any of your recent pencil sketch outlines like from your first page? I'd be interested :)

02-24-2006, 09:19 AM
Another one....this one takes 3 hours....

Hey thanks Mike....im practicing....hope itll pay off otherwise im giving up!:scream:

Jerussalem 4006 A.D. - Late For Pilgrimage
[/url][url="http://imageshack.us"]http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3971/jerusalem6ji.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02-24-2006, 01:18 PM
Another one....this one was intended for the Spectacular challenge...but....:shrug::shrug:

http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/525/spacedivecopy9ei.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

02-28-2006, 10:54 AM
Shake - Thanks mate...
FurnaceFace - Gee thanks mate.....i have pencil sketches like those of page 1 but its all over the place...books, photocopy paper...everywhere. I think by going digital i can finally learn hot to organise...thanks again!

03-05-2006, 02:51 PM
Your speedies are great, keep it up!

03-08-2006, 06:09 AM
Hey thanks Skurai....uve been very supportive since the beginning....:)

03-09-2006, 01:49 AM
WOW. great improvement.

i can feel a lot of engergy from your drawing.... very very impressed and inspired. good work
keep it up!

03-09-2006, 09:03 AM
awesome stuff, you make me wanna sleep, I mean practice :D And I think I will.. :) Where did you learn all of your color theory?

03-15-2006, 06:07 AM
sturmkim, Geta-Ve - Thanks guys...I learned lots of my stuff from the beautiful people around here. By really observing their works and comments and tutorials...and of course practice. But most of the time i just go with 'as-long-as-it-looks-right' approach to things. Thats y it still takes me hours to match that vision in my head.....close enough though. :)

03-15-2006, 06:09 AM
A quickie during lunch....

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/8900/praire028rb.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

03-15-2006, 07:37 AM
Some other quickies...around 30 minutes each....

Balrog Approaches
http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/1447/balrogapproaches3sj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/6326/exodus2ip.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

03-15-2006, 09:42 AM
dude i think you should change the thread title, this so isn't newbie work :P really amazing. i love the 4006 jerusalem one, it's got such a tranquil atmosphere.

(sorry no crit from me, i horrible at digitalmedias)

03-17-2006, 11:33 PM
damnit, i hate you! haha

sorry i haven't commented in forever...your color skills are getting wonderful! i think you should take one of these aside each week and spend maybe a few hrs developing it just a little more.

04-14-2006, 10:33 AM
wonderful stuff naz. I particularly liked that stereo on the first page and the Jerusalem peice on this one. Keep it up!

04-17-2006, 07:14 AM
lanternkid - thanks mate...glad you like that piece...Pfff...horrible at digital media?? welcome to the club:scream:

hpslashluvr - Thanks hp! Im loving your grayscale works as well on your anatomy thread...ure improving yourself! I wish i have the time to develop them more... *excuses*:scream:

beaux - Thanks for dropping by beaux! Glad you like the piece...i must agree with you the stereo on page one does, to me, have a painterly feel cozI didnt know about opacity jitter so i had to pick the colors manually and be really careful with my strokes....

Thanks guys!!

04-17-2006, 07:20 AM
So its close to the first anniversary of this thread of me and in a year i have learnt so much.....these are a few from my doodle collection.....:scream:

Teacher for the DSG...

Black for the DSG..

Thanks for all the support guys!!:beer::beer:

04-17-2006, 09:44 AM
awesome man, fantastic work.
First time to your thread and i had a look through - huge progress!
your work is looking great :D
Very inspiring what a bit of hard work and dedication can do :)
now im gonna go draw :D
keep up the posts mate

05-29-2006, 01:28 AM
Hie guys!

Long time never post here....after around a year getting my wacom, here is my entry to the CGChallenge...
It took a long time for me to figure out what to show and draw...and i was struggling with colors...i try not to use any reference as a color exercise. I tend to follow the colors of my ref and that to me can ruin my whole paint.

Thank you guys for all the support and hope to keep posting here with all of ya.

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/1483/108451148773148large0sj.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

05-31-2006, 03:17 AM
beautiful colors although i'm not sure what is going on >.<

07-20-2006, 09:06 AM
beautiful colors although i'm not sure what is going on >.<

*sigh...* I know....It was my first shot on 2d painting....

But here goes....the fishy creatures in the foreground is the tetrapods, the first fish that develop a hand-like limb on the journey to the land. The evolution goes from there (depicted by the bluish neon lines) to a form of a modern man in a conductors' suite, orchestrating destruction to its own evolution journey.

Anyway...here are some shots i did....

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1483/conceptsketch2copydg7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/5738/conceptsketchcopyfq3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Im joining the blizzard art contest and the architectural wonder contest at the same time......so....showing the world how bad my sense of art is.....

07-21-2006, 07:14 AM
My Diablo initial sketch.....

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5929/diablorn6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8155/diablo2ry1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

08-29-2006, 07:19 AM
2 Hours each....no ref...abit slow though.


http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8878/mechaapecopy2lw2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

08-30-2006, 10:20 AM
Another one...


09-04-2006, 07:57 AM
A genie...an hour

[/url][url="http://imageshack.us"]http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/3816/genieip2.jpg (http://img95.imageshack.us/my.php?image=genieip2.jpg)

09-05-2006, 03:29 AM
A quickie, An hour


09-05-2006, 06:39 AM
I just got into the whole digital painting and getting my mind around building up color and so on. As well as working on good composition. good to know Im not alone. and from what ive seen i like the thought process and the work. keep up the good job. (entered the blizz contest too :)

09-05-2006, 07:34 AM

09-05-2006, 07:39 AM
Hey! Good to see that someone actually had a look at my work!

Welcome to the club! I found myself inspired lately instead of my super-procrastinator alter-ego.....


09-05-2006, 09:18 AM
great work here mate! :thumbsup:

09-05-2006, 06:38 PM
great feel for colours man! I'm really digging the landscapes! :thumbsup:

09-11-2006, 08:04 AM
jmBoekestein, nethken - thanks for dropping by guys. Appreciate it. Here some quickies i did...around an hour for the lair, the lower two has bee touched up in PS...the rest is textured in 3D....

Bought the new Balistics book, Concept Art yesterday, looked into George Hull's work, really inspiring....

Well, you'll be the judge.


http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/3149/finalstrikerd4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/7591/suburbiazp2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

09-13-2006, 08:15 AM
Inspired by Enemy at the Gates....Around 4 hours.....over 2 days...no ref.

The Wait


09-13-2006, 10:33 AM
An update.....with textures....free textures from www.cgtextures.com (http://forums.cgsociety.org/www.cgtextures.com) !!

1 and a half hour


09-18-2006, 10:25 PM
hey man, you work looks amazing. Im in a similar situation as i am trying to tech my self to use my wacom tablet.

i was wondering if you could post links to all the tutorials you used

i would really apperciate it.


09-18-2006, 10:36 PM
hey man, your work looks amazing. im also trying to figure out how to use my tablet

i was wondering if you could post links to the tutorials you used.

i would really appericiate it.

thx bro

09-19-2006, 01:36 AM
Good stuff, looks exciting! Was loving your anatomy lesson torso's! Hope to see more a' those still. :D

09-21-2006, 05:53 AM
will - thanks for dropping by! I think the whole internet is the link....u can find alot of good threads here too....I cant tell you where to start. But u got to know what u want to look for and why...

I figured out that to do digital paintings, u got to understand abit of traditional painting too.....color, composition theory etc. Also depends on what u actually want to do, characters or environments....

Even i dont know what kinna artist i wanna be. :)

jmBoekestein - Thanks bro! Im pretty bz lately so cant post more torso's...It seems that it has been a good values practice 4 u!! See u later at the torso thread!:thumbsup:

09-21-2006, 05:57 AM
Here some sketchies....around 30 mins each...



Return of the weirdo

edit : Sorry for the 'Naboo Bigen' (Huge image)

09-21-2006, 06:06 AM
Hey Nazirull :) You have some really really nice work here! Time to change the name of your thread ;) I liked your work in the torso thread too!

09-26-2006, 01:21 PM
Iridyse-Youre too kind. I love your sketches too. Very2 pretty. I think this thread dont deserve to change its name yet. Its still not up to par and its still stroke and color practice.

Thank you!

A quickie....around 2 hours.


09-26-2006, 01:46 PM
Its evolution is divine. I wait to obtain so fast how much you

09-28-2006, 03:49 AM
Gisaiagami - Thanks for the kinds words man. I can understand your english so its not that bad really. yet you dropped a line here. Thanks again.:)

Listened to 'Duel of fates'.....Just cant help doing this one.

Great tunes from John Williams.:thumbsup:


09-28-2006, 10:31 AM
A follow up of the one above...but this one is called 'Courage'.

I think this is a WIP


10-18-2006, 11:34 AM
Hey, i was away for way too long, but im back drawing and all. I'm astonished by the fact you developed so much in that time.
(btw, your nickname is a bit tricky...)

10-30-2006, 02:12 PM
Hey, i was away for way too long, but im back drawing and all. I'm astonished by the fact you developed so much in that time.
(btw, your nickname is a bit tricky...)

Hey! your back! Long time havent seen ya around!

Gee thanks man....i hope i can par up with you guys.. :)

Here's a piece from my Eon entry.....1.5 hours


10-31-2006, 08:36 AM
cool start dude.....damn i have to begin with the eon challenge too, but i still have to read the book first :banghead: :D

11-17-2006, 01:41 AM
Yep...im halfway thru the book..but i sketch out any ideas i have.....just for fun.

heres one i did last nite....of Alexanderia...


11-17-2006, 03:25 AM
Heres another quick one.....of Thistledown....


11-19-2006, 06:51 AM

Yet another one.......im playing lots with texture overlaying now.....coz my brushstrokes suxx.....:D

11-19-2006, 09:43 AM
Nice to see your sketches, Nazirull...now I'll notifications when you do new pieces.


11-19-2006, 09:49 AM
You know... looking at the first posts in this thread... compared to the last ones... immense progress you've made... really enjoy seeing that :)

11-19-2006, 04:54 PM
Thanks for dropping by Cris, NR43.

Sorry, no sketches in this post. :sad: I need to broaden my brush vocabulary more....for now its monostroke. (if there's such a word).

NR43, Thanks for noticing. I must practice more. :)

12-06-2006, 05:22 PM

Here is a sketch i did for my Eon entry.

Cris, i hope its worth returning here after that pesky notification. :hmm:

12-06-2006, 05:49 PM
Just feeling ..............green.

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/8182/greenguy2lv4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

12-06-2006, 07:39 PM
Sweet perspective on the last sketch. It looks very promising. I also like those other studies just above it. :)

02-02-2007, 05:39 PM
This is my Eon entry...in the final hours before the deadline, i managed to put all my training into doing the characters....Can be better though but i didnt think that i can pull characters at all. :)

02-03-2007, 05:49 PM
hi nazirull,

haha it's kinda cool watching your progress from post #1 to post #160. Your latest paintings are totally amazing. It's kinda encouraging for newbies.

On my side I have a hard time with my tablet, I can't get used to it.

02-18-2007, 07:58 AM
holy shit man, your eon pieces are awesome!!

i hope you're going to make a tutorial, i'll go through your thread but you really ought to make one :D

02-18-2007, 08:35 AM
Wow, you have improved sooo much. I definitely should be doing what you did..Starting out with references, etc. and just study. But its good to see such a big change from beginning to now. keep it up :) I like your work.

02-22-2007, 10:03 PM
hpslashluvr - Holy shit gurl! i thought this thread is due to be 'cgtalk moderated' LOL...Thanks ! Hmm...a tut would be nice...ive learn heaps from this piece myself....would be nice if i can share with all of ya! I'll let ya know! :)

karvboy - Thanks for enduring all the crap! I hope you'll learn from my mistakes! LOL...yes tablet needs a little getting use to...but with practice...nothing is impossible! :)

gmoney1 - Thanks man! Ive learned from reading the pros threads here too... :)

Thanks again all!

02-22-2007, 10:08 PM
Heres a lil something back from the journey begins challenge....:)

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7974/conceptsketchmi5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

04-06-2007, 08:58 AM
One during lunch


04-06-2007, 09:59 AM


05-11-2007, 05:11 PM
Ahhh...glad to be back....

Heres a quickie....an hour or so...im getting rusty..
photo ref pending photographers permission....


07-24-2007, 07:23 AM
You've really, really made great progress in your skills. I read the entire thread in one sitting and felt you were a bit stuck with the troy image, and then 'wham!' came the devils office. Fantastic.

Keep it up. It is inspiring!

- christian

08-16-2007, 07:03 AM
Thanks chrleon! Glad u enjouyed ur visit...LOL

This ine is just an overlay of an old blank 3d render....one hour maybe...

01-02-2008, 04:16 AM
some lazy sketches...HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL!
THe first one is ofcourse...inspired by Zhuzhu...LOL:scream:


06-03-2008, 03:14 PM
Its been ages since i paint...(not that im any good at it) Heres a quick one for Daily Sketch


06-03-2008, 07:08 PM
Hey Nazirull
just seen your thread, great stuff, but I have to say I think you've strayed a bit from your original intent. You might want to get back and focus on your line and colour rather than trying to produce more final pieces.
I only say this because the idea is a great one, full of discipline and artistic merit. Well done.

06-05-2008, 12:35 PM
Thanks for dropping by Tymotzues!

Comments noted. Ive really started with line and color practice but as u said ive strayed rom my objective and this thread is looking more like my sketch thread.

I need to change to thread name or do some color and line comments to my pieces that i post here.

p/s: man this thread is 3 years old??? whoa

07-12-2008, 07:51 PM
For Daily Sketch...

I use default brush...hard edge, opacity set to pen pressure. Reference from a scene in the first movie


07-17-2008, 02:10 PM
The thunderbirds for DSG....


07-17-2008, 02:19 PM
DSG 'Final Boss'


07-23-2008, 01:55 AM
Played with values and just overlay it with color... Just scribbling around to get shapes. Around 2 hours.


07-23-2008, 04:00 AM
Nice works Man! :beer: :beer: :beer:

07-23-2008, 05:31 AM
The last one is really beautiful!
Love the atmosphere

07-23-2008, 08:28 AM
THanks guys!

Heres one for DSF....Joker..


07-23-2008, 02:17 PM
Nazirull, your dedication and effort are to be commended. I thought you might be one of the "serious ones" from your first post about getting your Wacom.

You have one major drawing flaw which was evident from your first piece, and is evident through today, that slows your progress, and hinders your development. No matter how good you become, this one poor technique will keep you that little bit from being better. It is like choosing to walk hunched over and stooped, rather than tall and confident. It is the making of short, hesitant, unsure, strokes to create your outlines and shapes. I saw it in your first tracings.

Even now, you are creating some very precise shapes, but spending so much more time and effort "chicken scratching" them into existence, rather than drawing a simple smooth line with one stroke.

The last statement is the reason you need to put a piece of paper over your Wacom ~ to slow you down. You need to learn to draw faster, instead. That is the digital freedom that awaits you, the ability to confidently make a very quick, yet very accurate line to define whatever you want it to. That same skill will allow you to paint Shapes with 2-3 strokes that will be fluid and dynamic, conveying not only the shape, but the personality of the artist.

SEE the shapes as you paint. Paint your shapes with as few strokes as possible. Think simplify. Paint the largest shapes of color first, as shapes, not strokes. Then work to paint the smaller shapes with one stroke, not three or four. At first, you may find your perspective to be thrown off, with shapes too close together, or too far apart, but your eye will start to observe the shapes better, and perspective will improve.

If you can just scratch less and stroke more, you will find your speed and accuracy will improve by leaps and bounds. You have a really nice style to your work, with a kind of Art Nouveau feel to it, even the spaceships. I think if you can get your strokes to match your style, you will see some great works.


07-24-2008, 07:18 PM
Great advice.

I DO hesitate alot. Even with traditional media (pencils and pen) i tend to alot of strokes to get the desired shape.

I tried putting paper on my wacom last time. I dont know why i quit that. Time to put it on again.

More practice time!

Thank you for your insights on my work and to thread the pages. :bowdown:

07-24-2008, 09:01 PM
Great advice.

I DO hesitate alot. Even with traditional media (pencils and pen) i tend to alot of strokes to get the desired shape.

I tried putting paper on my wacom last time. I dont know why i quit that. Time to put it on again.

More practice time!

Thank you for your insights on my work and to thread the pages. :bowdown:No, NO NO!!!
No paper. Learn to draw FREE, and fast, and be confident of the long, gliding strokes you will make!!! You will be hesitant at first, your strokes won't be too smooth or even at first. That's okay. You will NEVER improve until AFTER you get past the sketchy, hesitant phase.

I WAX my plastic overlay, and buff my stylus tips to make them glide over the Wacom with as little resistance as possible.


07-25-2008, 03:18 AM
Oh...If thats the case, then that means over these years my strokes are not improving! Im getting no better even without the paper. I was thinking with paper, it can slow me down and produce more confident and sure strokes! lol

I'll keep on doing it without then....looks like i have to do more practice.:cool:

07-28-2008, 04:37 AM
Still got the 'chicken scratching' syndrome though....

FOr DSF...75 minutes..


07-29-2008, 05:30 AM
For DSF .....45 minutes...


07-29-2008, 05:30 AM
Another one for DSF........75 minutes...


07-29-2008, 09:03 AM
Ooh, a fight in a parking garage!

Just kidding. Good colors, some beautifully clean perspective lines, but it does look like a car park...Not bad at all for a little over an hour.


07-29-2008, 03:34 PM
True....it could be anything actually. Since there is no object to indicate the function of the space....

Here's an attempt trying to get used to custom brushes, instead of painting entirely on default brush. The brushes are from Matthias Verhasselt collection..impressive set indeed.



08-04-2008, 07:38 PM
Remember her?
I restarted from scratch (with ref) a little under 3 hours.


08-04-2008, 09:38 PM
I LOVE this rework!
Her pants look almost mystical, with the golden bits, which go wonderfully with the bracelets and shoes.

This is truly impressive work from you. NICE JOB!!!


08-05-2008, 09:16 AM
Thanks CybrGfx, youve been very supportive. :beer:

Heres another one for DSF....


Credit to Matthias Verhasselt for his superb custom brushes...(its abit obvious aint it?)

08-05-2008, 11:19 AM
And credit to you for using them properly.
You're kicking ass lately... I need to shift up a gear or 2

08-05-2008, 08:11 PM
Thanks NR43...ive got my ass kicked thats why..LOL

heres another one...


08-05-2008, 10:59 PM
Great updates, great progress, you seem to be loosing that "chicken scratch" flaw Cybr was talking about. Seeing many bold and unhindered strokes with these new ones...keep it up! Btw, how exactly are you kicking your own ass...cause i'd like to know for myself =)

08-06-2008, 03:11 AM
Rabid1 - Thanks man...if CybrGfx didnt point out that 'chicken scratch' issue, (i still have that by the way). I wouldve wondered wut the hell is wrong (amongst other things) with my sketches.

Its pretty easy to kick ur own arse....sketch it, print it, stick it nicely to a wall and give it ur best shot. LOL
M kidding...well i looked back thru the pages of my thread and thought that i shouldve been further with it. Many progress were hold back by procrastination n laziness, although i have everything and adequatly equipped. So there should be no excuse not to produce.

A kid, a magazine vendor nearby my place had this passion that drive me forward. He is a poor kid and over these years i never fail to see him do sketches of his favourite chinese comics...and pretty damn good and consistant with it. And he had only scrap paper and a ball pen! So wut excuse do I, the one with the wacom and licensed sofware, and all the resources in the world within reach, have not to produce? Or at least try my best to? None...there shouldnt be...so thats how.

Abt the piece above, I think the hesitance is still there in my strokes...u can see that. I refered to movie screen capture and use grids for easy refs. And I do feel a little bit constrained with the grid restriction....Its like plotting, rather than being natural with ur hand-eye coordination, which is wut i supposed to do...
Plus, my brush and color selection thru out the stages of the painting is still all over the place. I think im giving it a second try.

Thats another thing im lacking. I hate to comeback to my piece and do it again...i simply hate it but i think in order to improve i just have to do it.

Thanks Rabid1 for dropping by...see at DSF!

08-06-2008, 06:12 AM
Well, perhaps you're not gonna like what I write now, but I must do so:

Stop using grids!

I know that you are now probably thinking "wtf" but I think at this point, where you have a decent understanding of light, color and value composition and all that, this grid is holding you back.

Yes, your sketches will look a lot less accurate.
And yes, it will feel like you are dropping 10 levels back and you will feel bad about it in the beginning

But accuracy isn't the most important thing, it is actually not more important than SCHWUNG (or FLOW).

About 2 years ago I stopped using grids and I can tell you that once you start seeing progress in accuracy, the feeling is AMAZING! I felt really FREE and liberated.
Try it, resist going back to using the grid if you're not doing a commissioned piece where accuracy is demanded) and you should get the same feeling after a while

Keep inspiring!

08-06-2008, 07:14 AM
Please DO write more stuff that i dont like abt my stuff here please! Only by that, i will know where i can improve! :scream:

Lol...honestly i didnt know why i used grid last nite. Probably because theres a grid brush in Matthias brush pack...lol. I have NEVER used grids before...EVER, for the same reason that uve pointed out, spot on.

Unless something that requires accuracy....but i cant think of any? An exact likeliness in portraits perhaps? That would be downright boring though. I would like to do my version of someone if they ask me to do their portraits...like, how Picasso would draw George W Bush?? :scream:

12-12-2008, 10:14 AM
After a long absence...


Credit : Obsidian Dawn brushes from ImagineFX dvd for the dragon.

12-16-2008, 06:00 AM
One during lunch...


Now im hungry...LOL

12-16-2008, 09:11 AM
Another one


12-16-2008, 03:36 PM
Nice updates... that is a cool soldier character...great pose!

12-16-2008, 03:59 PM
You are geting better and better. Keep it on

12-17-2008, 02:05 AM
Thanks guys.
Those are a character taken from the PC game Crysis.

12-26-2008, 02:02 PM
OMG...the colors are so different in my office lcd!
One for DSF :p

12-30-2008, 03:12 AM
A compositional disaster, i think the breakdown is better abit.

Credit hairdo and costume to Marek Kobrin piece as a ref. :)

12-30-2008, 06:54 AM
Another one during lunch (ref fr magz of course)

12-31-2008, 06:05 AM
A few more :P

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1371/krishpb6.th.jpg (http://img185.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krishpb6.jpg)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2281/koreanuq8.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=koreanuq8.jpg)
http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/7885/krish02gc1.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=krish02gc1.jpg)

12-31-2008, 08:58 AM
Another one from ref photo...
Photo is here...

Not to achieve likeliness..but just a practice. :)

01-01-2009, 04:15 AM
Your characters dont very well blend in the background, so i suggest u to work on that

01-04-2009, 09:34 AM
indeed....something to work on. tq

01-06-2009, 09:10 AM
Some clouds practice....
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7898/01copyuk6.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=01copyuk6.jpg)
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5770/02copydw6.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=02copydw6.jpg)
http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/9594/03copyks7.th.jpg (http://img360.imageshack.us/my.php?image=03copyks7.jpg)

And the final crap lol


01-07-2009, 11:12 PM
nice sketch there.. post more! :cool:

what brush did you use for the cloud sketches?

04-23-2009, 06:37 AM
@Icesoul...its one of the fluffy brushes in Matbrush collection. Thanks!

Here a two latest sketch...some photo manips.



04-28-2009, 11:05 AM
one for DSF

05-26-2009, 06:05 PM
finally i found your sketchbook!
amazing stuff u got, well done.

contact u soon bro, sorry for m.i.a a while coz busy.
all the best.

05-27-2009, 09:17 PM
i like your last envirement.realy coo colr dude
waiting to see more and more

05-28-2009, 01:54 PM
Nice for u guys to drop by, simon, ghassem.


heres new one for DSF NTL 'Student'


C ya simon

05-28-2009, 02:37 PM
I love you clouds study ^^
And you improve is nice
The question. Uou use opacity or painting with pression of tablet?

07-10-2009, 07:23 AM

@Gisaiagami - Thanks! I usually use opacity for layers and pen pressure for my brush strokes.

07-13-2009, 07:54 AM
Another airship for DSG....

Recycled clouds as BG and overlayed 3d as guide for the blimp.


07-14-2009, 01:24 PM
DSG - Jetpack


07-15-2009, 10:24 AM
DSG's 1930's Henchman + pirate....4 hrs...


07-30-2009, 07:44 AM

07-30-2009, 01:34 PM
Another DSG


07-30-2009, 03:45 PM
Great DSGs man...glad to see more from you!

08-03-2009, 04:13 AM
Thanks Rabid1.


08-21-2009, 06:04 AM

Great work man! Although I might want to add to you that you need to practise more on the basics, anatomy/perspective...
You kinda started right in with color and some random things before starting with only cubes, spheres, perspectives...


08-21-2009, 06:59 AM
Sothw!!! .... F@#!% Y&%^

09-30-2009, 02:38 AM
Thanks guys...hafta kick myself again to start sketching...again.

09-30-2009, 05:28 AM


10-20-2009, 07:33 AM
Thanks for the kick!

Been working on Monster Madness competition in joomcool.com


10-20-2009, 05:49 PM
Finished one

He ain't heavy, he's my brother.


03-07-2010, 11:01 AM
A couple of development sketches...



05-04-2010, 10:05 AM
Wanna be back on my sketching!!!

05-04-2010, 03:41 PM
Sketch Man!

05-12-2010, 08:23 AM
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7056/emomech02.jpg (http://img52.imageshack.us/i/emomech02.jpg/)

05-09-2011, 06:18 AM
Oh my....must sketch!

10-11-2011, 02:37 AM
My office give free anatomy sketching class! So heres a couple.



09-25-2012, 09:17 AM
copied fr imaginefx

10-04-2012, 10:30 PM
Welcome back! Nice anatomy sketches and that last pencil one is cool too!

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