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04 April 2005, 09:39 PM
Cameron Gardner has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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Well, this is it, my final image. Really? Really really.

The story.

The mean older brother, who constantly enslaves his younger sibling we see here, has since left to formulate more dastardly plans of masterful incarnation. The younger brother who is about to lay siege upon the unsuspecting mantis thus perpetuates the ever-descending chain of torture and servitude. The previously incarcerated bug of the jug has managed to somehow find his way out of the fighting rink, and is now on his way to freedom. The boy, who has become the mean and tyrannical master of the World Mantis Fighting Championships, also possesses, although hidden from immediate view, the ultimate weapon of torture for those unfortunate few crawlers who do not please him.... the dreaded magnifying glass in his back pocket. The mantis, in his surprise and shock from impending entrapment, has released his hungry gaze from his lucky lunchtime partner. Therefore severing the ever-descending line of the Master and Servant.

04 April 2005, 09:50 PM (

Hey everyone, I know I'm entering this challenge slighty late, but I finally had some spare time to think of an idea. Basically I wanted to do something a little different, and humorous for this time around. My idea is pretty simple and I don't know how much I need to explain. Hopefully everyone will get it. Let me know what you think. Does this work for this challenge? Crits and comment welcome.

04 April 2005, 09:55 PM
hi cameron ... i like ur idea :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:17 PM
lol! Very cool. I like it because it is unique! The composition is great too! So far so good my friend :) I'll check back often to see how you progress!

04 April 2005, 05:48 AM (

Well, here's the direction I'm taking with the color. I usually don't go this tight for the color comp, but for this illustration I want to paint it as crisp as I can get it, as it will serve for the final color palette. The expressions on the boys face and the mantis will hopefully carry the emotional impact I'm looking to achieve. The colors are meant to reflect the playfulness and carefree abandon of a warm summers day in the park. My aim is to instill a touch of mischievousness in the face of the boy that will play off the innocence of the mantis. This is where the story gets told and if I’m successful, engages the audience. Now is back to the drawing board to work out the line drawing and fix a few problems, before I start the final color. Let me know what you guys think. I need some honest feedback on this one, so no holding back please…

04 April 2005, 04:37 PM
I don't know why, but the look on the mantis's face made me laugh out loud. I guess because I have 3 kids of my own, and we spend a lot of time capturing the wee folk who live around our house. So I feel for that mantis!
I was looking at your drawing, the boy's face has a neat feel about it, while in the painting he's a bit more...maniacal. That may be entirely intentional, but if not go back and look at your drawing and see if you bring some of that into the painting.
Either way- what a great idea!

04 April 2005, 04:50 PM
I think the hat could be fixed, and possibly changing the hand on the cup's postion.

04 April 2005, 05:27 PM

thanks, I see what you mean about the face, I think that's going to be the toughest part of this idea...getting the expressions right.


thanks, you're spot on about the hand. Actually, I thought I would change the glass to a jar with the lid on the foreground and change the jar in the background with the other mantis in it to some sort of home made battle cage for mantis wrestling (like that idea alot)... I plan on fixing the hat and other small things when I do the line drawing.

Lot's of stuff to do still, thanks you guys, it really helps to have other eyes on your work. Keep the crits coming...

:wip: :wip: :wip:

04 April 2005, 06:07 PM
The expressions are perfect on this, conveys everything perfectly. Love the colorwork too, hope to see the real thing soon.

04 April 2005, 08:26 PM
Thanks sidchagan,

I appreciate your kind words. I think your concept rocks! :applause:

04 April 2005, 11:19 PM (

A few quick thoughts on the fighting cage for the caught servants unwilling to play in the battle for their master's pleasure...this will replace the jar in the background, kind of a secondary storyline going on here.

Any thoughts out there? Which one works best if any?

04 April 2005, 04:41 AM
they both work, but once as a kid I collected 500 catipilars in a milk jug and left them there to turn into butterflys. When I returned a week later instead of 500 butterflys there were 500 dead catipilars. No one told me the thing's needed to eat to become butterflys! So I'm a bit partial to the milk jug. And yes there were 500 catipilars, I'd found a nest.

04 April 2005, 04:51 AM (

Here's the line art. I went for the milk jug with the mantis trying to escape the upcoming battle. I liked the idea for a few reasons. The first being it adds to the story and creates some additional humor, and second I think it will be fun to paint the translucent qualities of the light coming through the plastic. I'll try to post more WIP for the color this challenge...

Let me know if this is working for anyone out there. Comments welcome...

04 April 2005, 09:46 AM
nice consept I like it so much good luck...

04 April 2005, 07:19 PM (

I promised to show more color WIP. This gives everyone an idea of how I like to work. This technique is basically how I approach my oil painting. The orange layer in Photoshop serves as the primed canvas...for this I thought a real nice warm color worked well against the all the greens. On top of that, you can see the underpainting starting to take shape...more to come...let me know if you like.

04 April 2005, 08:38 PM
Have you noticed your kid had only four fingers in his right hand ?

Noooooooo, I'm joking:D

I find your project really touching : childhood, insect wrestling...
About the mantis look, yeah it's really funny.

I really love your picture

Keep going on


04 April 2005, 10:43 PM

thanks for the props. Hope to work on it some more tonight and start the final color pass!

:wip: :wip:

I'll keep watching your thread, I love the feeling of yours, very moody...makes me want to start on something a little darker. Fun.

04 April 2005, 06:52 AM (

Color WIP. You can see here I'm starting to establish the values for the background and some of the areas for the boys face. This still needs quite a bit of work throughout as I have yet to complete the first pass of paint. This stage is where the piece starts to really come together in terms of the composition of lights and darks. You can see that the orange pops through in areas and although most of it will get completely covered, I feel it gives the piece a nice inner glow in the end...

Comments always welcome…

04 April 2005, 02:22 PM
hahahahaha, very nice. I think this is one of my new favorites. Maybe a bit more forshortended perspective on the jar to make it look like it's looming over the mantis?
Good work.

04 April 2005, 08:56 PM
ha ha...i love this... great expression and composition. It's looking quite nice. keep up the good work and good luck.

04 April 2005, 03:32 PM
Sorry for nor responding right away, work tends to take me off...

ChrisThatGuy: :thumbsup:

thanks so much for the respose, I'm glad you think it's funny... just what I'm shooting for...that's very incouraging! I like your suggestion as well. I want to finish the first painting pass and make some adjustments at that point, so we'll see. I could redraw it and scan it in, but I believe It would be simpler to make an adjustment in the distort menu after I flatten a few layers... :)

mybutterflyiris: :thumbsup:

same on the response! thanks, and good luck to you as well. Your work is very nice too. :)

I hope to have time to work on this tonight, I dunno, I'll see. I need to find some time before this Friday, I just got some more storyboard work for this weekend, so I probably won't have too much energy left till after that's done...

Best wishes to everyone BTW, the level of talent and creativity in the challenge is always a joy to be a part of...very inspiring indeed! :D

04 April 2005, 05:44 AM (

Managed to sneak a few hours in on this...more paint on the mantis. I'll keep applying the paint throughout the piece to bring ot up to about this level, then start on the next pass.

Comments and crits always welcome.

04 April 2005, 06:21 AM
Cool expression on the bugs head, he'll certainly be praying soon...:D This would look great on a kids book cover... like paul jennings or something. best of luck - jez

04 April 2005, 07:46 AM
What a nice bug and original concept.


04 April 2005, 09:30 AM
love the eyes, the mantis looks awesom e, like, ever had this feeling somethin bad was gonna happen...i do:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:46 AM
the eyes are so funny, very well done, fine expression

04 April 2005, 09:56 AM
Hi Cameron
really love the direction you're going to :love:
Just one crit about the boy's left arm : i don't exactly what, but it seems a little strange... maybe too short or something like that ?

04 April 2005, 03:34 PM

Yeah, I see what you mean about his arm, it's been nagging at me a tad, I think it's a problem with the folds of the shirt being too flat, I'll see what I can do to fix it on the next paint pass.


Thanks, I'm glad you like it.


Thanks to you as well. The expression of the mantis will really sell this piece I hope.


Thanks, your 3D work is outstanding.


Thanks for the props, I'm not familiar with paul jennings, sorry...maybe post a link?

anyway, thanks to you all for stopping by, your comments and suggestions are very much welcome and appreciated. I'm havin such a blast with this!! keep em coming...

04 April 2005, 03:42 PM
nice strat man ! but I want see next and what is the meaning of this with M&S theme? :)
some explanations?

04 April 2005, 04:05 PM
Glad you fouind some more time for this. Great facial expression and detailing on the chitin!


04 April 2005, 04:13 PM
wonderful entry! i love the "facial"-expression of the mantis! this is brilliant! :applause:

keep going!

04 April 2005, 04:24 PM
pretty cool dude, love ur mantis!

04 April 2005, 10:45 PM
Loooaaads of character! Even in the expression of the Mantis! Ha ha! Good stuff! :)

04 April 2005, 06:30 AM

Yes, I think a little explanation is in order...there's more to this story than meets the eye...for right now the picture says it all except for the mean older brother who constantly enslaves this younger sibling we see here who is about to lay siege upon the unsuspecting mantis. Thus the ever-descending chain of torture and servitude continues. The previously incarcerated bug of the jug has managed to somehow find his way out of the fighting rink, and is now on his way to freedom. The boy, who has become the mean and tyrannical master of the World Mantis Fighting Championships, also possesses, although hidden from immediate view, the ultimate weapon of torture for those unfortunate few crawlers who do not please him.... the dreaded magnifying glass in his back pocket.


thanks, more time to come I hope... keep up the incredible detail on your entry, I know you'll be in the top circle!


Thanks, yours rocks as well!


your appreciation means a great deal, as you entry is sureley a winner...


thank you so much, I know my concept is somewhat tame compared to yours, and hopefully I can come close to you painting abilities...

good luck to all of you and thank you for your votes of confidence...sooo rewarding!!

04 April 2005, 06:31 AM
hahahahha, man, children are kinda evil!

This is looking really nice!!! And very humorous - great combo!



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04 April 2005, 04:58 PM
Coming right along- I really liked those sketches of "fight boxes" you did BTW. I would reccomend getting some photo reference of a kid to nail that face, not to get it photorealistic but to just help pull it together. The mantis is awesome!

04 April 2005, 05:11 PM
I love the detailing on the mantis and they way he is set give him a great expression as well...

04 April 2005, 05:25 PM
Thanks you guys for visiting and responding, I'm still in this thing, I've just been completely buried with side work and trying to get my new site built...


Should have some time for some new WIP soon, till then, keep all the great work going and thanks for the comments and suggestions...

04 April 2005, 10:35 PM
:) Very nice illustration Cameron! ( it also brings back some good memories from when I was a boy). :thumbsup:

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04 April 2005, 06:40 AM (

Another color WIP. Just more paint all around. It's tightening up and the colors are getting closer...

Lot's more to go.

Let me know what you guys think.

04 April 2005, 08:25 AM
When I look at that kid I totally can put myself in the Mantis shoes (well whatever it decided to wear that day) I love its expression, I have to give you the most credit for that, the suprise on the face of the mantis just blows me away (boom!)

Great work. :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 07:23 AM (

More work on the face of the boy, the shirt, and jar. Tightened up everything and started nailing down the folds of the shirt. I need to spend some time on the grass and lid the the jar...all is going fairly well, and it's falling together pretty much how I invisioned it so far.

Love to hear any comments and crits...

05 May 2005, 06:46 AM (

OK, getting closer on this, put in some work on the grass, more tightening all around and some work on the jar lid...basically just minor tweaks. I'm throwing out a lens flare on the glass jar...I usually don't go in for many filters in Photoshop but for this paticular piece I thought it really worked.

Let me know if you guys like the lens flare thing...too much?

05 May 2005, 01:10 PM
Fantastic image the camera angle. The expression on the kids face is great and the face on the bug...priceless :applause:

05 May 2005, 01:45 PM
the face of the boy is a great piece of art, remerber me the sixteen's illustration, good work

05 May 2005, 07:28 PM
MDN67: Thanks so much, I'll keep my eye on your thread, very cool stuff! :applause:

element5: Much appreciation, thank you for your kind words! :applause:

05 May 2005, 08:16 PM
Awesome! How on earth did I miss this entry up until now? The bug's expression really *is* priceless! And yup, I'd say the lens flare works well. :)

05 May 2005, 09:01 PM
Thanks liiga, I think I like the lens flare too. I might even soften and blur the image more as it reseeds into the background to create an even more photographic effect...what do you think? :hmm:

05 May 2005, 09:09 PM
It is quite soft over there in the back already, not sure if you should soften it much further. But hey, this is digital, always possible to play around and see what happens. ;)

05 May 2005, 09:13 PM
lol! great image!

05 May 2005, 09:18 PM
Thanks NOOB. Hey, watching your thread for updates...when will we see the latest? Only a couple of weeks left in this...


05 May 2005, 09:35 PM
that wicked naughty smile, you really captured it dude... & nice details on the mantis...keep it up:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 09:58 PM

yeah that's the cool thing about digital, the undo button...the lens flare thing and the last pass with the blur tool were done on a jpg test file, if they hold up to scrutiny from any or all who wish to comment, there easily fixed...can't imagine ever doing that traditionally...whew!


thanks so much, the expressions on this were definately the fun part...character stuff is such a treat to do.

05 May 2005, 10:05 PM
Great work! Funny, but also very substantial graphically. :thumbsup:


05 May 2005, 10:55 PM
bad, bad kid!!!hahahaha!! very well done!!!


05 May 2005, 03:58 AM (

Alright I think this is the final coloring on this idea. It just gets to that point where you stare at it for so long, you can't find anything more to add to it, so I guess it's pretty much done. I'm hoping for a serious critique of this from all of my fellow artists out there in it really done? I’m not going to look at it for a few days (or more) and come back to it with fresh eyes. I’m sure I’ll find something to noodle with…

I want to thank everyone who took the time to comment, this challenge has been a real inspiring artistic experience and great fun as well. I am once again completely blown away by the level of talent displayed in these pages…truly amazing stuff. I’m honored, humbled and feel very fortunate to have had this opportunity to participate and exchange creative synergies with such a special group of people.

05 May 2005, 06:12 AM

reminds me when I was little! I love the perspective a lot! Colorss scheme is spott on! Poor grass hoppers@. Ill look for future updates! Great job!


05 May 2005, 09:03 AM
hey Cameron, good job with the composition, colour scheme and theme. one thing I thought I would mentioned stood out to me on first glance is the outline of the teeth.. it seems a bit too dark especially near the gums.. well that's just my impression. keep up the great work, i definately agree with you that you need to have a break after staring at one image for so long :)

05 May 2005, 02:19 PM
Haha! Very good! The ultimate in expressions... :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM
very love a grass hopper!! That's a terrible fear on it's face!

05 May 2005, 09:35 PM
Cameron - It's looking great! Nice work! I don't normally go for lens flares either but I agree with you, it really works here. And after looking at earlier shots, I'm quite relieved to see that you banged some holes in the jar's lid! :-)

A couple of comments, not necessary to change, just some things to think about:
The boy's teeth: Intentianally stylized, or does he just have a terrible dental plan? I get really distracted by them bacuse a lot of the piece is (relatively) realistic but the teeth's gaps are just huge, and thus feel to me like they're more cartoony than the rest of the piece.

Secondly he mantis looks terrific - expression, texture, lighting all great - but hue-wise it blends a bit into the grass behind it. Have you considered a minor shift in hue and/or value? Like a darker green, more of a yellower green, or maybe something redder like his claws are? Anyhow, just thinking it could help the guy stand out a little more.

Anyhow, great work! Good luck!


05 May 2005, 12:34 AM
Yeah,, ... I couldn't stay away for more than one night, I'm sure everyone out there feels the same these challenges just suck you in and grab hold of you and won't let go. Tons of fun though!


Thanks so much for your support on this piece; I've watched your thread with great delight as you've developed a very insightful and humorous work. Your observations on the boy’s mouth are so right on, I intentionally pushed the gaps as to really make the smile stand out and play against the expression of the mantis' mouth and eyes in particular. Maybe I went too far...I find that this style is a bit tricky in that you're always trying to find a nice balance between cartoony and realistic, you know what I mean?

Your suggestion about the colors is a good one, I'll play with that as well when I go back to tweak this further. I think I went too busy with some areas of the grass as well; they seem to be fighting for attention with the mantis.


Thank you for your visit and compliments.

Good luck to all of you in the challenge, this one is quite the display of artistic chops. I'm super impressed with the level of talent out there. Whoa!

05 May 2005, 05:50 PM
Very good pic man! U rendered it with right amount of realism as well as a cartoon style. Love the mantis the most! Good luck :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 08:41 PM (

OK, so here's the final image of this, unless of course I decide to tweak it and tweak it right up till the last minute...(probably will…just too fun to leave alone). I've made some adjustments to the mouth of the boy. I liked the gaps in his teeth and the exaggerated feel of the expression, so just minor stuff. I worked on the mantis to try to bring him out more and add some pop overall. I did these last tweaks on my computer at work, which is the same monitor as I have a home: 23" Mac Cinematic Display, but for some reason it looks darker on my work machine. mmmm. Did some print tests to ensure good color, density and contrast so I'm hoping what I see is what the judges see...anyone know how these are judged? Do they get printed first (if they get into the finals that is) or are they viewed on screen for color??

Anyway, thanks so much for all the visits from everyone. I know this piece wouldn't have been as good (or fun) without the involvement of all of you superbly talented and gracious creative types out there. Good luck to everyone!!!

05 May 2005, 11:39 PM

This is such a fun image! Great work, and congratulations.


05 May 2005, 01:00 AM
I just love this!

05 May 2005, 03:40 PM
Very cool image.....great concept executed very well.

Congratulations and good luck with the judging


05 May 2005, 05:19 PM
Fantastic! takes me back... :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 05:38 PM
hi Cameron Gardner.:D
great work.:thumbsup:
beautiful painting and nice idea.i like the face of the boy a lot.
thank for ur message.good luck to u.:)

05 May 2005, 06:35 PM
hahaha this is such a nice entry! :) i have to smile everytime i see the expression on the mantis face! i wish you the best luck! :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

oh, i just noticed the little beatle in front of her.. so this time the bad mantis is the victim and not the little one.. that´s life.. hehehe.. :D

05 May 2005, 08:00 PM
Fab! Fab! Fab! :D

05 May 2005, 10:43 PM
Great job! This really came out excellent. That mantis kills me every time I look at it! What a great answer to the challenge.

05 May 2005, 10:48 PM


05 May 2005, 11:09 PM
Whoa, start looking around at all the incredible stuff, and bam! Come back and all these posts! Cool.

gordonm: Hey thanks for the elevation and prpos. Yours rocks as knew that. Good Luck!

Samanthie: Thanks. Good luck!

Paul: Thanks to you and good luck. Your geni concept blows me out of the competition, but hey what can I da man!

Jezzarts: Right back at cha. Good luck!

xric7: Good luck to you as well, keep up the great work...very inspired.

dunkelgold: Hey Benita, thanks for visiting, I love your kitty's. Very delicate work on your part. One of my favs I must say. Good luck to you.

Poshspice; Aly, whoa, blown away for sure! Can't wait to see the full monty! Good luck!

ebrowning: Eric, thanks man. Your piece one of the most touching of all. I like your interpretation as well. Nice to see such thoughtfulness. Gret colors too. I'm sure it's gonna look great in print. Good luck!

Calvin: Thanks for dropping in. Keep working on yours till the end...push it, it's getting close. Good luck!

Thanks everyone for the kind words, I know I'll have more tweaks on this thing before submitting the final image. Hey, why not use all the time we have right? I't's just too much fun. I'm having a blast hanging at the challenge and watching all the cool stuff come to life! More too come... :wip: :wip: :wip:

05 May 2005, 11:32 PM
I love the painterly feel of this piece. I especially like the expression of terror on the insects face!

Great job!

05 May 2005, 09:07 PM (

Well, this is it, my final image. Really? Really really.

The story.

The mean older brother, who constantly enslaves his younger sibling we see here, has since left to formulate more dastardly plans of masterful incarnation. The younger brother who is about to lay siege upon the unsuspecting mantis thus perpetuates the ever-descending chain of torture and servitude. The previously incarcerated bug of the jug has managed to somehow find his way out of the fighting rink, and is now on his way to freedom. The boy, who has become the mean and tyrannical master of the World Mantis Fighting Championships, also possesses, although hidden from immediate view, the ultimate weapon of torture for those unfortunate few crawlers who do not please him.... the dreaded magnifying glass in his back pocket. The mantis, in his surprise and shock from impending entrapment, has released his hungry gaze from his lucky lunchtime partner. Therefore severing the ever-descending line of the Master and Servant.

05 May 2005, 09:42 PM
:thumbsup: Bravo mr Gardner

your picture exactly depicts the cruelty we, youngsters, could enslave the the tiny little bugs of mother nature He He

I especially love the mantis:thumbsup:

Good luck and see you on the next challenge


05 May 2005, 04:44 PM
are you sure thats the final?:D ... looks great dude, i like the atmosphere, the expression & the insects details, everythings jst right... great job!!:thumbsup:

btw, thnx for stopping by my thread, & your suggestions are really helpful.:)

05 May 2005, 04:56 PM
hi..Mr Gardner.:)
congrats on ur real final image.:thumbsup: :applause: :bounce:
great ur concept and expression.
best luck in this contest.

05 May 2005, 05:12 PM
hi cameron,
:bounce: i looooove the mantis!! and the angle of view works very well! perfect! :applause: :applause::applause:
i wish you the best luck and hope to see you next time!



05 May 2005, 05:39 PM

Thanks so much for you kind words and ecouragement, good luck to you as well, I can't wait for the next challenge!


Yeah, this has to be it. I can't find anything else to tweak...thanks to you too and good luck in the challenge! loved your last update btw...


Best of luck to you in the challenge too! I really feel your piece is one of the best out there...great work.


It's been such fun watching you work on your vision for the challenge. You have a unique and original way of creating...just allowing it to develop organically. That is just amazing to me; such freedom in your ability to let things happen and go with it, I'm very inspired by that...good luck to you in the challenge!

05 May 2005, 11:35 PM
Your mantis has the best expression ever! You've caught the emotion really well. You have a really cool style. Good luck and thanks for coming round my thread! :)

05 May 2005, 06:59 AM
Well Cameron you have done a great image... fantastic idea and finish with great style:thumbsup:

Good luck :)

05 May 2005, 03:33 PM
Beautiful composition! I looks to fun to leave alone if you still have time!

05 May 2005, 07:42 AM
awesome man, good luck on the voting:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 05:03 AM
Thanks again...


Thanks to you and good luck as well.


Thanks to you too!


I appreciate your compliment, your image is fantastic. Good luck to you too!


I love your style as well, Good luck to you!

I want to thank everyone who dropped in on my thread, I can honestly say that this challenge has been the most educational and humbling artistic experience I've had in quite some time. The level of talent and quality of folks out there willing to give their time and advice is a credit to the human race... (something this world needs more of in my opinion)...I'm truely honored to have had the opportunity to participate! Thanks! And good luck to everyone!!! See you all in the next one...

05 May 2005, 08:40 AM
Congratulations on finishing your piece. It looks great! The depth of field you've created is fantastic. Congratulations again my friend.


05 May 2005, 05:17 PM
hahaha! this is great! i love the look in the mantis' eyes. that's one expressive insect.

05 May 2005, 05:58 PM
I loved all of the expressions! Especially the big mantis. You draw the maniacal younger brother expression disturbingly well. :p

05 May 2005, 07:07 PM
The look on the Mantis' face is classic. Like he's visiting a doctor for a very bad exam.

05 May 2005, 07:19 PM
Whahahahaha! oooh. ouch! Thanks dude...

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