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03 March 2005, 10:39 PM
Yves R. Adam has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Modeling: Reversal - Dog [wip] (

Just some more progress on the dog, added front legs & paws, not sure if I;m happy with it, but I think I am . . .

03 March 2005, 10:39 PM
Yeah baby yeah, I've Entered :cool:

03 March 2005, 10:44 PM (

1st pass at the concept. I skipped the doodle fase and went straight on to detailing it a little including colorconcept. Will probably go a little more indepth in this before I start modeling.

I tried to get a sence of 'what happened' and a subtle reversal of roles by putting the ball in the humans hand, suggesting it was him getting the ball instead of the dog.

03 March 2005, 11:37 PM
wooo nice to see you in yves , more competition :)

I like your concept and knowing you the models will kick ass too.


03 March 2005, 11:40 PM
Hehey! Another one! :)
Nice start man. Good luck to you :thumbsup:


03 March 2005, 11:44 PM
thx guys, I think I might actually pull this one of with things I learned the past year.
And besides, I haven't actually been doing anything prodcutive at home, so the time's right.

03 March 2005, 11:47 PM
hmmm...very interesting direction, and I really dig the skills
Will most definitely be along for the ride

03 March 2005, 01:48 AM (

Ok, so I decided that the concept should do for now and started modeling, which is what I do better then concepting anyway. On a side-note, I would NOT like to say thank you to my dog. what a mess trying to get him to sit still for some nice reference photo's

03 March 2005, 02:03 AM
Blown away, seriously. I just want to squeeze that dog and he isnt even finished. Very good poly flow, doesnt come off stylized or's a cute dog man. I really want to see this finished :) dog wishes I fetch the ball :scream:

03 March 2005, 02:13 AM
thx. after I posted this i changed the flow around the nose so that's better now.
I'm trying for realistic, so the comment about it not being cartoony makes my day.

more soon.

03 March 2005, 02:27 AM
You really nailed the dog look in its eyes

03 March 2005, 04:36 AM
so mr skank thought he could sneak by and I wouldnt notice he entered...jsut cause im not on msm doesnt mean i don't see what you do!

lookin keen mr yves! I was thinking of having a doggie like critter in mine as well, but im not sure(dont worry its not like yours concept wise :D)


03 March 2005, 11:23 AM
Hehe Ian, you lil bugger. I was hoping you'd drop by . . prettending to be all busy and whatnot. To busy for your friends now ey, but then again, you're not .

good to see ya my friend.
Go for the dog, I'd like a little tete a tete with you . . .

as for the eyes, yeah I really wnat to nail them, a dogs eyes are what describes the dog as a whole in my opinion...

03 March 2005, 09:55 AM (

Did some more work on the dog. at least the edgeflow agrees with me for a change. now lets see if I can get those legs to look right ey.

03 March 2005, 10:03 AM
Hey Yves! Your work is coming great man. I can't wait to see with the textures :)


03 March 2005, 10:03 AM
oelala... love the concept :thumbsup:. Modelling of the dog is great sofar.

~ Reinierrrr

03 March 2005, 10:35 AM
Yeah thats coming along really nicely, Ill keep checking back for more!

03 March 2005, 11:17 AM
Aha - Mr Noxx!

I really really like the idea. One suggestion, you could have the guy lying face down in the grass, weakly offering the ball up to the dog... This could exaggerate the relationship between the two, plus the dog could then be looking down at him - creating the perfect contrast to the 'His Master's Voice' pose of the dog looking expectantly upward.

Look forward to more :D

03 March 2005, 02:15 PM
Kris, thx, that makes the both of us :D

Reinier, thank you

Phyle, thank you as well. hope I can offer things to make you keep coming back.

AJ, long time no talkie, not a bad Idea at all, but on the other hand, I sort of want the master / servant relationship to be blurred just a little.

on the one hand you have the dog as servant, dragging the man outof the water, on the other hand there's the man, having gotten the ball for the dog.

I'll experiment once i get to laying out the scene. perhaps it'll prove to be better and stronger to have the man indeed offering up the ball. we'll see.

thx for the input tho.



03 March 2005, 01:03 AM
Cool looking dog you got there. The only thing that bothers me is that sharp edge/crease on the neck.

03 March 2005, 05:56 AM
wow nice man! I really like this, very simple and relaxing (or so it looks) hehe

Great modelling job so far!!

03 March 2005, 08:26 AM
Pencilhead, if you mean the one running downwards on the front of the throat, dogs have that, I should know since this is MY dog. it's somewhat loose skin [that, agreed, I need to make appear more dangling]

Geta, thx :D I can't seem to break away from this clean style

03 March 2005, 08:53 AM
Heh, but I think it works for what your going for :D you could always just sneeze on your drawings and hope that spices things up a bit ;)

EDIT: took a good look at your concept and realized the dog was saving the guy, to be honest my first thought was the guy was just relaxing under the tree with his dog, you know? heh. Well this definatly adds to the overall of the image.

Perhaps make the guy a bit pale? and a more dramatic pose for the dog? and a lazer eye, and a huge *cough* nevermind

03 March 2005, 09:12 AM
yeah the final image will have some more drama to it and it will be more obvious that the dog is saving the guy. I want the viewer to wonder who the master and who the servant is.

As a dog owner I often wonder if it's me who is the master or if it's my dog. He's got a mind of his own if you know what I mean. I thought that would be very fitting in this challenge.

Trying to go for an image with an underlying message so to speak.

03 March 2005, 09:42 AM
Check this out..

In order for your dog to be as happy as he wants he only has to obey 3 simple commands


With those commands he gets, your love, food, toys, play, friendship, excersize, your attention, etc etc


Just something to think about (if only children were so easy)

03 March 2005, 09:47 AM
if only it were that easy. When I play fetch he drops the ball just outof my reach so i have to walk over to pick it up. I admit we spoiled him when he was young so he isn't the most obedient dog ;)

03 March 2005, 10:01 AM
Love the concept man! Thought at first you could maybe have the dog pulling the man by a leash to further the concept but after reading I like the idea of the lines of relationship being blurred. Also like the drawing of the concept drawing. Good luck to ya

03 March 2005, 12:27 PM
the 3d modeling is nice thanx to fine lined topology. keep on

03 March 2005, 12:33 PM
thx guys,

I was just wondering, are the images dark for you guys ?
It's damn dark here at the office while at home they look fine . . .

03 March 2005, 12:40 PM
Looks fine to me at home but to be sure I think you can turn the shader a little bit less dark for the next posts :)
Looks great BTW ;)


03 March 2005, 12:46 PM
thx I'll do that ;)

03 March 2005, 12:49 PM
:thumbsup: Heartwarming concept dude, and really nice modelling on the dog! Would be nice to see him come to life in your final work!

Looks abit dark, but still viewable :)

03 March 2005, 12:55 PM
hey yves ... yah the pics are a touch dark but no biggy

real nice work on a challenging model .. i have never dared model a dog .. it's all looking clean and you got a top notch dog there :thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 03:25 PM
I have to say I like how the dog is coming along. This should turn out pretty good. Like others have mention some brighter images would be nice though. Keep it up and good luck.

03 March 2005, 03:45 PM
Toh Kwan, thx, exactly what I was going for, trying to get some feelings into the piece.

Gehry, I learned that a dog isn't that much different from a human in terms of edgeloops and things like that. The form, yeah that's different, but the same techniques apply.

Tony, thx, following images will be brighter ;)

03 March 2005, 09:11 PM (

Just some more progress on the dog, added front legs & paws, not sure if I;m happy with it, but I think I am . . .

on a sidenote, how's this in ways of brightness ? better like this ?

03 March 2005, 09:26 PM
on a sidenote, how's this in ways of brightness ? better like this ?

I hope you didn't take me the wrong way.

it's just for me when a model has the default or grayish shader on it, it's easier to see the contours on the model better. Like how the shoulder muscle transitions to the rest of the body or the brow transitions to the eye socket.

Usually it wouldn't matter, but I'ma work looking on a crappy monitor so when there is not much contrast a darker image sort of bleeds all together.

Wasn't trying to be an ass.:blush:

03 March 2005, 09:33 PM
I hope you didn't take me the wrong way.

Not at all my good man. I was serious when I asked if it's better, I mean, what good does it do If I show progress and nobody can see it because it's to dark.

Don't worry man, ALL crits are taken in a good way.

that said, you haven't answered my question, is it better now :D

03 March 2005, 09:35 PM
Definitely better and nice update.

Just looking at the model, I think Golden retriever, but it also has it's own look, which is your own personal touch.

03 March 2005, 09:41 PM

and Yeah you've seen it almost right, it's actually a Labrador Retriever, which is basically a Golden Retriever with shorter hair.

03 March 2005, 10:02 PM
you are doing a realy good modeling on the dog.nice and wich u luck:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 02:05 AM
hey there dude.. i totally agree with the other folks very heart warming feeling to this piece. your dog model has come along quiet nicely, it looks great i cant see anything wrong with it. Reminds me of a gentle yet strong dog "A mans best friend" feeling to this dog.. Make sure you bring out the total feeling that the dog is a mans best friend in this image exactly like you have in your concept.... very nice dude very very nice...

04 April 2005, 07:30 PM
Really like your progress with this. Strong composition and emotion. Your model is looking great too. Looking forward to more. :)

04 April 2005, 11:13 PM
stop slacking! get back in the game you rogue! :D

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