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03 March 2005, 05:39 PM
Da Feng has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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Latest Update: Final Image: Fears & Insanity (

its 5:30 am... and school tomoz, i NEED sleep... lol
im going to draw up a little sheet so u can understand everything, its basicly called Fear and Insanity. Its called this because i fear loosing my sight, and ill go insane, once thats happened, my imagination thats stuck in my brain will over run me therefore turing into the master.

emmm i hope that kinda makes sence... sorry its a little late and im tired :P anyway great challenge!! learnt so much more this time!!

gud luck to all :D

03 March 2005, 07:10 PM
Welcome to this challenge Daadaa. Good to see you around. Have fun m8:beer:.

03 March 2005, 03:46 AM
hey dude!! nice to see you around again! :D

03 March 2005, 08:31 PM (

hi this is the first thing in my mine... its a creature protecting a little grl from the evil race.... emmm EVILIANS!!!! ... yes

oh yea... id like to thank CGtalk sooooooooo much for timing this just before my exams!! :D

thanks :P


03 March 2005, 08:38 PM
looking great!!!

03 March 2005, 08:56 PM
good concept and looking great,:thumbsup::thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 09:31 PM
thanks guys :D.. thats the nice compo... got a evil drawing up right now :twisted:

03 March 2005, 12:20 AM
Not bad, but... yet another girl/monster pic? Don't want to "curb your enthusiasm" but I know you're a good artist, the only thing you need is a unique concept to set you apart from the rest ;). Maybe the same concept but the other way round (girl protecting monster), that would be funny.
Oh, yeah, exams are a drag!

03 March 2005, 01:41 AM
Hi there Daadaa! Good to see you back! I think your concept is quite nice, just need to develop the theme more to add depth to the image (I'm talking for much later stages of course!). Good luck!

03 March 2005, 03:17 AM
Feng of the Daa:twisted: , I am glad that you are back. Seems as if this one is gone a be a very nice one:thumbsup: . I love your concept dude. So, keep it up and dont deceive me.:scream:

03 March 2005, 02:04 PM
hey, thanks guys for the support!! :D

@GaeasHerald (member.php?u=130247) ... yea the reason my mind is a little restricted atm is because i gotta fit it within my school art project.... otherwise i wont have time for this :(... the project is "fantasy creatures" which isnt bad but still a bit restricting as my major is mechnical... :P anyway... its just a child, so i can make it a little boy if u want me to.. :P

but i know what u mean and yea it sucks now u mention it... but i got another idea up my sleves (reason its not from my brain... cus he sucks... grrr brain!! :P )

anyway.. thanks again... ill hopefully update this today with another idea!

03 March 2005, 02:07 PM (

this was an idea i was doing when i realised.... f it... its dogs breakfast and unimaginative....

[edit]... and he looks like a right retard... with tounge out an everything going "mehhaaaaa"

03 March 2005, 02:13 PM
lol, your posts are funny, can't wait to see what you come up with next! :)

03 March 2005, 04:36 PM (

emmm master slays servant for somereason which at current time is unclear... and he feels regret for what hes done... blahh blahh....

i should give up now... :'(

and soz for bad sketch

03 March 2005, 08:01 PM
Maybe the servant crapped on his floor. Reason for a slaying if ever there was one. Seriously, though, I'd keep on with this theme as it's very original. We have a few servants slaying masters knocking about, but to the best of my knowledge no masters slaying servants.

And it's a good sketch, what do you mean? All you need is to sort your story and build it from there.

03 March 2005, 08:05 PM
thanks dude for the compliment, but i cant say im so good with facial expersions... and that is what im gonna need for this... (ouch), but i might keep this concept... i got another one knocking about which is much simplyer, and im going to see how that looks with a sketch.

and thanks again for the encouragement :)

03 March 2005, 10:27 PM
Hey! That last sketch looks really good! Good angle! I think you should go further with it although I quite like the girl on the beast as well. You're making rapid progress in drawing! :bounce: Great determination! Keep up! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:32 PM (

yea sorry that i havent done anything for a while, been busy with school... and maths isnt giving me a break, but did some stuff... and here it is... crits appreciated :)

04 April 2005, 05:34 PM
yeh i remember school,tough life,get good grades and go to college,life is much easier there.

anyway excellent update!

04 April 2005, 05:45 PM (

emm original sketch for the squid lady, too big for scanner so had to photograph it :(

04 April 2005, 11:27 PM (

emm since i dont do line arts... so ill just use this :P

ive been playing around a bit with the squid, and smoothing that out, but now i realised it looks too bright??... emm input will be helpful


04 April 2005, 11:29 PM (

emmm an close up

04 April 2005, 11:37 PM
Interesting concept, but what is the story behind it? Also, may want to pay more attention to lighting.

04 April 2005, 11:40 PM
hi, story is around the lines of the evil squidy is the queen of the seas, and if any of her servants dispeases her, she gets her also very evil fishes to kill them (ones with red eyes) ... there are going to be more servants around... but hiding in places...

as for the lighting, ... i dont know how to do it is the simple answer, its deep under the sea so technically there isnt any light... so.. emmm that works well :P

04 April 2005, 03:10 PM
This is a very original idea and concept. But when I first looked at the Image, I could not figure out how the whole image could be related to the Master and slave theme. I couldn`t make a link with the theme and the image. It is after reading what you wrote that I understood what was happening. I would therefore suggest making the squid creature more imposing. May be you could change the pose of the chartacter. Making her raise one of her hand ( If we can call it as such) as if it were giving orders can give her more authority over the other characters may be. The composition seems nice. As for the light, I would suggest lighting (direct lighting) the squid creature only to impose her as the main charater and use indirect light for the surroundings. Well, this is just a suggestion and it might prove wrong but for this original concept of yours, its worth trying it.:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:38 PM
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well, a little change to the story to make it easyer to understand, a slave escapes and they are after him, going to change the squid's pose a bit.. but dont know to what yet, but still testing on that one.. might put a wip or something in her hand to show shes the enemy...
also might spice up the designs a little... looks rather boring imo...

also changed the background, i just realised hat an idiot i am for putting a building down there... and change some other bit that arnt worth mentioning...

any more input will be awsome ... thanks! :D

04 April 2005, 06:46 PM
Hello, color sympathetic nerve and there are an environment a little like Chagall, good courage for the continuation.

04 April 2005, 09:16 PM
Yet again i miss another cool thread. This piece is looking nice and it's the only underwater scene i've seen so far. The character designs are awesome. I'll be checking back later. Me want to see how this finish.


04 April 2005, 10:48 AM (

emm updated the woman a bit.... added more detail.. not much of a update really

crits appreciated


04 April 2005, 12:16 PM
Yo Daadaa!

Good to see you again mate! What took you so long?! Remember when GSO was over we said "see you in the next challenge!" to each other! Brotha! Now I'm keepin an iris on your thread so bettah work hard! So far you've got a nice composition coming along waiting to see more!

Peace Friend!

04 April 2005, 12:18 PM
Oh so now YOU ALSO have an issue with maths! welcome to the club Partner!



04 April 2005, 12:33 PM
daadaa - Interesting concept and nice looking start to the image. However, you might have a problem here. The Rules for this challenge state that one of the two subjects, either the master or the Servant, HAS to be a Human. Not a Mutant or Half breed or humanoid. So not an Elf or a Mermaid etc. And the main figure is not human. Other then her there is just fish. This may mean the judges wont consider your art for inclusion.(If you plan on putting a Human in, then I appologise for this post) Check out the Rules and the FAQ.

Hope this doesnt mess things up for you too much. Good luck!

04 April 2005, 01:08 PM
hey, yea i am aware of that, but the thing is, i wont have time for this if i dont fit it within my school coursework, which is fantasy creatures.... so yea :P

anyway, i dunno if its under water i wont be able to randomly add a human in and having a plausable explination. Though i might change the face into a human face.. blahh ... i dunno still thinking, but thanks for your concern:)

04 April 2005, 01:51 PM
I like to see the sketches you've done so far. And the creature here you did now, looks cool to me.

04 April 2005, 01:59 PM
hey, im at school atm and dont have a scanner, will be scanning some stuff when i get home today just for u;)

04 April 2005, 11:19 AM (

just some sketches that i did.. as requested

04 April 2005, 11:30 AM (

ok, this is as far as ill go on this... and sorry for my language, but it is Sh**... so ill count this finished, so its good enough for school, no one else can produce anything like this so teachers will be impressed none the less. anyway i got another concept comming up... doing some sketching for it and ill see how that goes.

04 April 2005, 01:07 PM (

hey... just some more concepts that i came up with, ... dunno, i might just do the first one as it can look quite spectacular while fitting with my school project in the process.

anyway... input will be nice

04 April 2005, 01:35 PM (

ok... got some time now... so doing a bit... cant see much but ill build it up soon

04 April 2005, 02:00 PM (

emm did the person alittle more...

04 April 2005, 02:26 PM
whats the latest concept about?is there a story behind this?it seems alittle empty composition wise..just a thought:)good luck

04 April 2005, 02:35 PM
hey, story is a little long winded, its about a woman who was thrown into the abyss, and was torchered by demons of the seas. after many years she used her wit and beauty to please god of the seas neptune, who now is making her imortal.

in the centre of hte picture, you have neptune(havent drawn the trident yet) with the woman(still needs a cool name) above him. she has chains of light in her hands which will string around the necks of the ones that mistreated her (still needs to be concepted).

the giant turtles will have masses of slaves chained to the big boards all praying... and there are also going to be some rock land here and there which i havent got around to do yet.

i hope that sort of explains it a bit, if i have time i might even write a bit of poetry about it.... but prolly not. :P

04 April 2005, 07:02 PM (

ok... detailed the background a bit... and played around with the values... next step would be the evil demons who will be torchered... well something like that

THE Wizard
04 April 2005, 10:45 PM
Wow, Cold thones realy bring life to this picture... nice!

04 April 2005, 01:42 PM
nice work.:thumbsup:
no crit for now.
i'll wait to see more.
good luck to u
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04 April 2005, 02:17 PM
thnks alot man :D will be doing some more when i get home tonight... gonna work on the grl next... and have no idea how to do it... lol ah well can always redo it if it doesnt look right :P

god bless undo!

04 April 2005, 06:31 PM
Your lighting is definately starting to add some atmoshpere and depth. Nice work so far!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:57 PM
Awesome. Powerful.

04 April 2005, 07:01 PM
Very interesting new concept. Good luck with perspective - right now at first I thought the lighter figure was simply very small. But since you mentioned you're going to include a lot of creatures, I guess that should be no problem. In other words, me likes. :D

04 April 2005, 07:08 PM
hye, thanks alot guys, when i said im going to work on it tonight... well i cant, cus wasnt able to borrow a tablet from school, i have bought one, should have arrived today, but i guess tomorow will be the day :(... anyway hopefully i can add in loads of characters soon.
Another thought i had was to make the turtles smaller, but i will have some stuff to give a sense of scale :)

04 April 2005, 08:17 PM (

ok, my tablet arrived today :D (intuos 3 :D ) and just dont some stuff with it now, "detailed" up the woman a bit, but its not all that detailed anyway :P

04 April 2005, 03:59 PM (

ok... first layer of the background is on... still needs detailing, but its mostly there, the setting is going to be a underwater ruin of a temple or something.

04 April 2005, 07:59 PM (

ok, got some time to do a bit more, tho not much, i copyed the background a bit to give me an idea of what it might look like, i need to repaint those so that its not just copy and pasted and also added the slave/servant type creatures being captured... and some preatures on turtles on the bottom.

anyway, pls tell me if im going in the right direction! thanks

04 April 2005, 08:58 PM
This is looking pretty good man! I like the detail you put in on the columns! It's coming along nicely!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:14 PM
Nice! However, maybe reconsider the placement of the creature to the left in front? It is blocking those interesting figures in the background, and I'd like to see a bit more of those. :)

04 April 2005, 09:32 PM
hey, thanks for the crit, and yea good point... i do have alot of empty space at the bottom so i might stick that fishy down there, and probably add some more forground ruines as well?

04 April 2005, 09:49 PM
'sup Feng?

I see your going for the dramatic lighting in your scene, pretty well executed so far, good luck to the rest of the image. Perhaps minor (tiny) adjustments on the anatomy of the servant? Maybe a little muscle definition, but not Schwarzenegger style, just maybe Bruce Lee style ;)...

Just a thought, but don't listen to me!

Peace, fellow maths warrior!

Cheers, Adam

05 May 2005, 09:21 PM (

emmm gave up on the other one cus i think it sucked, so i got another idea, something around the likes of imagination is controling your body... and being a pain in the ass, basicly what romatic poets mess about with.

05 May 2005, 04:43 PM (

ok... did some colours, but looks a bit too crampt so gonna do something different with the person... dunno what yet, but gonna do it soon...

p.s im soooo fu**ed (time wise)

05 May 2005, 08:32 PM (

ok... started some detailing... havent dun jack all really tho.... emmmm poopy

05 May 2005, 10:24 AM
this's cool!!
ur style is realy unique.
keep going.
good luck.:)

05 May 2005, 03:05 PM (

emm did a little more... not much tho...

and thanks xric7 :D

05 May 2005, 08:49 PM (

ok... did some more... but ALOT more detailing... and just everything else to do... :'(

05 May 2005, 08:50 PM

05 May 2005, 11:37 PM
Wow, another surrealistic piece (big fan of surrealism). Love the idea and the wide range of interpretation. Keep it up and i can't wait to see it finished :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Thanks for droppping by me thread. The reason why i didn't detailed the pipes is that the background might overtake the characters. I had enough details on the left and back area that i had to sacrifice the pipes, hehehe. Thanks a bunch dude.


05 May 2005, 01:17 AM
nice update.:thumbsup:
keep it up.:buttrock:

05 May 2005, 04:17 PM (

not the biggest/best of updates... but heres that head more or less done... ish if i get time ill fill it in with more random bits.. but short on time :P

05 May 2005, 05:05 PM
great detail!!
very realist.
can't wait for final product.

05 May 2005, 07:35 PM (

emm... this was rather strange experiance for me... ive never painted expressively before... and suddenly i started painting rough... which i have to say is very odd, but i guess its one of the stages that u pass when ur learning?... but i think im going to leave it rough... to give the impression of fading old... etc...

still very odd!! im deeply shocked! :P

05 May 2005, 09:55 PM (

ok.. got a bit furthur....
to explain the skull face thing... that has always gave the creeps... dunno y i just dont like that at all :P... one of my fears really... and my usual way to combat things is just to stick a happy face in it... :D this painting is gonna look like its been dun by 2 artists... emmm shi**y ...

05 May 2005, 11:14 PM
your piece makes me insane alright:scream: ... lol... i love it dude for its originality, hurry up & finish it... be back later.

btw, thnx for dropping by my thread:)

05 May 2005, 11:46 PM (

ok... another update... tried doing curly hair on the greed person (emmm orange hair one....) but that didnt go down too well as it looks just like a clump now... :\ but anyho... did a nice cats eye cus they are cool...

anyway thanks arkinet for posting :)

p.s... REALLY need to remove that happy face... its giving me the creeps now :( :P

05 May 2005, 12:21 AM
helpp..... how do i draw diamonds? pls if anyone out there who has a simple answer to this rather complicated matter, pls tell me

05 May 2005, 03:24 AM (

emm... a but screwed but this shows my fear of loosing my sight....
basicly this is the guy at the bottom with his head blown up... :D

05 May 2005, 07:07 AM
Hey, sorry I couldn't get back to you tonight. Was kinda busy. It's been a while since I've seen your work, and it certainly looks like you've been improving :)

Uf, I just realized that I did a paintover of the wrong file...the one right before you added the person with the orange hair. I hope this all makes sense, because I'm pretty tired right now, so grammar, punctuation, and overall coherency is about to fly out the window. I think the composition in that one is certainly stronger, but I think it could be pushed a little. I think one problem is that there's a very dominant diagonal line running from the bottom left to the upper righthand corner (I'll e-mail you the paintover I did). The skull, orange-haired person, Asian woman, cybernetic face, old guy coming out of the ear, body of the woman holding the globe all share the same orientation. It serves to bisect your image into a very dense right triangle, but leaves the other half in the upper left a little empty. I think it would be a good idea to take a more curved composition line (blue swoop in the paintover), to break things up a bit.

In terms of color, I think you're at the point where you can start introducing some more color variations in (if you already aren't planning on doing so). Right now everything seems to be a bit localized, with each element having a very monochromatic palette, as if you picked a color on the color wheel, and then went straight down or up to get variations. Introducing other colors would also serve to unify the elements into a whole, as opposed to sections. The bottom half in general has a very light, low contrast look to it; the amount of flesh tones you have there combined with the sky tends to wash things out. It also creates an interesting reversal in weight, as the heavy dark colors sit on the top, while the light colors fill the bottom. The cross coming out of the naked girl's hair was a nice touch, but I feel it could be enhanced a bit more if you were to increase the height of the composition and give it a little more breathing room.

I think I covered it as best as my current state of mind will allow :P Anyway, it's looking good :) I hope I can get a chance to talk to you before everything's due!

05 May 2005, 08:49 AM
nice update.
th eyes are realy cool.
almost finish?

keep going,buddy.:buttrock:

05 May 2005, 09:46 PM (

not trying to sound negitive... but no hwere near.... :P

anyway, thats a quik sketch of what i want it to look like.. and things left to do/detail are:
cloths around him
grl on top right
bottom left skull
gun of life
sewage from bottom left skull (will restrain the other arm)
tree on skull
and general tidying up

lol..... "Time left: 1 days, 14 hours, 17 minutes, 28 seconds." ... emmmm yes :P

and xric7 (member.php?u=159411).. thanks for the encouragement :)

05 May 2005, 11:51 PM (

emm... small update

05 May 2005, 01:54 AM (

ok.. did a bit more dun the hand (hate hands... grr) and still got the other side to design ...

oh and also did hte ball

05 May 2005, 04:54 PM (

ok... tidyed up the stars abit... and did a bit more on the top right woman... arggg 19 hours left!!!

05 May 2005, 06:06 PM
this's simply insane!!:eek: :twisted:
wonderful pretty scary sexy awsome work.:drool: :arteest: :bowdown:
co crits.causse it great.
keep going,mate.
can't wait for final.

05 May 2005, 06:14 PM
:eek:.. lookig at yours, i am really supprised that you find mine good! :o! :P

thanks sooo much :)

05 May 2005, 08:28 PM (

this is mainly for my teacher at school... dont think he fully beleaves that i did this cus he dont paint all that much.. and he doubts ppl who does stuff that he didnt teach :P... anyway this is a little stages thing that i made so i thought i might as well stick it in here as well :)

05 May 2005, 08:41 PM
cool step by step thingie.. thats exactly how i paint too :)

05 May 2005, 08:45 PM
hey man, i read yours... that kinda gave me the idea for mine... tho u do do it the more professional way i think... u make block colours first... then u change that... i just more or less go straignt in after a quik sketch.... mainly cus dont know how to do block colours without it putting me off... and also i mainly learnt by my self so never got into the habbit of blocking each area out i guess... :P anyho.. back to painting :P

05 May 2005, 09:10 PM
hey there ,very nice detail, nice pic too, looks like a monday :D

05 May 2005, 09:17 PM
Awesome...!!! cool it..good luck.

05 May 2005, 11:26 PM (

ok... finaly did the crappy sky in the middle... im gonna throw away some of the little details in there, cus dont have time and cant be arsed ... i know thats not the attitude, but i dont give a damn! :D


05 May 2005, 01:04 AM (

ok... did a bit more... looks like an all nighter tonight!

05 May 2005, 01:59 AM (

ok... main part done... now to add the gun of life... and chain of evolution.... lol i ammmmm crazy!! :D

and a high res:

05 May 2005, 02:06 AM
crazy is right! looking at the picture makes me dizzy. It seems hypnotic in a way. nice work.

05 May 2005, 02:07 AM
this is something to marvel at. i can stare into this all night. i think i shall. :) good luck mate!

05 May 2005, 02:08 AM
thanks alot guys for the encouragement :D

05 May 2005, 02:22 AM (

ok... just a sketch of what im proposing to be in the front... how ever mr time here isnt very happy about that... so ill see what i can do :P

05 May 2005, 04:11 AM (

ok.. out of time... this can be it... not how i wanted it to be but it'll do :P

05 May 2005, 04:13 AM (

its 5:30 am... and school tomoz, i NEED sleep... lol
im going to draw up a little sheet so u can understand everything, its basicly called Fear and Insanity. Its called this because i fear loosing my sight, and ill go insane, once thats happened, my imagination thats stuck in my brain will over run me therefore turing into the master.

emmm i hope that kinda makes sence... sorry its a little late and im tired :P anyway great challenge!! learnt so much more this time!!

gud luck to all :D

05 May 2005, 06:20 AM
Man that sent me on a journey... thats some brain you've got there. Lots to look at and think about, nice work... best of luck!

05 May 2005, 06:25 AM
cool surreal image, nicely executed too! sory to hear about your vision - hope you can find a way to solve it! Good luck on the challenge

05 May 2005, 06:58 AM
congratulation!!:applause: :thumbsup: :bounce: :wip: :bowdown: :beer:
stunning final image!!
love ur style a lot.
best luck in contest.
ps.thnx u for ur support during this chalenge.

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