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03 March 2005, 10:28 PM
M Grant Hillier has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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Latest Update: Final Image: Conjuring the Storm (


Thanks everyone for helping through this one. Wa-hoo, digital painting #2 under my belt! Yay! I promise I won't wait till the next challenge to do painting #3 (gotta try to get better before the next challenge! Too much damn talent to compete against, LOL)

Good luck to everyone. It's been fun.


03 March 2005, 11:13 PM (

first of several concepts I'm playing around with. this one shows a huge cyborg giant being attended to by servants or worshipers. still mulling around with the backstory for this one.

03 March 2005, 11:20 PM (

thinking about some kind of religious pilgrimage... the meditating monk and the attending novice being ignored in the bg. Strange how some who search for 'enlightenment' choose to devalue those closest to them - in this case, the servant girl.

03 March 2005, 11:25 PM (

this one involves a blind cleric or wizard (completely stark raving mad, of course) who uses his feathery host of ravens to 'see' for him.

03 March 2005, 09:09 PM (

another idea I've been playing with... here, a wizard displays his power by conjuring a storm. the child learner is awed and frightened by such power and cowers (ironically, he hides from the storm, and not the one who summons it... ah, silly, stupid humans)

03 March 2005, 09:12 PM
great scene,very expressive!

03 March 2005, 09:12 PM
i like the last one, i like wizards, love fantasies artwork, but whats with the grasses on the left of the image? what compo are telling us? anyways, :)


03 March 2005, 10:06 PM
good luck ~Grant:thumbsup:
i'm looking forward to see your next step.

03 March 2005, 10:14 PM
hi my bro....
really special thing to see you again in an other challenge....
your sketches are really good like everytimes...all of theme have a perfect deepness...i really liked all of theme, i'm curiousing about which one will you choose.....................................

good to being in the same challenge....bro...

good luck.....:buttrock: :buttrock:

03 March 2005, 10:21 PM
anil tells about you a lot to me :)
good luck man!:bounce:

03 March 2005, 10:35 PM
looks great man. really like the sketches. looking forward to seeing some more.

03 March 2005, 10:54 PM
thanks so much for the kind words folks. I think I'll post one, maybe two more concepts and choose one to work on.

eclipson: the grasses in the foreground (on the left) are there for two reasons 1) to balance the composition and 2) to guide the eye into the painting, carrying the viewer thru the grass to the wizard & pupil and over to the distant gathering clouds on the right. But if you have to ask, maybe I'm not doing things right, ha ha ha. Any ideas?

anil6tr: great to hear from you again, brother! thanks for your generous comments. looking for your artwork in this challenge too!

03 March 2005, 10:57 PM
Ohhh, these are all awesome. My favorites are the pilgrimage scene and the storm summoning. Not sure which one out of the two, although the storm is clearer in the story it tells. Best of luck in the challenge! :)

03 March 2005, 11:12 PM
u junkie! excellent sketches dude , great feeling in all of them

03 March 2005, 11:18 PM
thanks squibbit! great to see you in this challenge... have you chosen from one of your many concepts yet? Looking forward to seeing which you'll develop.

03 March 2005, 11:31 PM
yea of course..erhm ... well , going with the knight and squire setup, but I'll
probably be posting some extra concepts anyways :D

03 March 2005, 11:58 PM
really nice sketches... that final concept is a keeper, Like the idea of the storm brewing, and I think the idea that the girl is hiding behind the stronger actually makes a lot of sense. He is the more powerful of the two and she believes he will protect her from the storm.

What would be nice is some kind of foreground particles like leaves, or blowing dirt/dust. this could show that some kind of force is growing from the source and not just shown by the clouds in the distance. Could be an option?

03 March 2005, 12:43 PM
Nice. I really dig this piece (conjuring the storm). It has a nice compostion and mood. The grasses and the clouds really gives that coming of the storm and sets the mood of the piece. So i think the grasses work at the foreground. The gestures of the characters works for me.

Just watch out for tangency with the characters and the grasses at the foreground. One suggestion is to maybe use leaves flying around to really feel the strenght of the wind blowing.

Goodluck :thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 12:46 PM
Hey great sketches and really a lot of energie in them!!!(not so original,I know:D )
Love the last 2 ones!!!
Good luck and loads fof fun espspecialy!!!

03 March 2005, 12:59 PM
number 4's my fav love all the angles though :)

03 March 2005, 01:22 PM
thanks for the encouragement folks, I really appreciate it.

peterpop88 & Arc80: that's a great suggestion about including some blowing leaves & debris. I'll definately include that into my next version.

I'll post one more concept (warmaster), but I think I've already decided to go with the storm conjuring idea. Need to start linework soon.

03 March 2005, 01:31 PM (

okay, this is the latest (and last) concept I'll post. Here we have a dark voodoo priest/samurai guy who's raised an equally demented and dangerous army of disciples. they stand poised, waiting for his command to unleash doom and destruction upon whatever poor fools stand in their way. the flags in the bg will read: 'I like destroying' or 'destruction is nice!' ha ha ha... no, not really.

03 March 2005, 02:03 PM
Oh yeah!!! You concepts looks great. If you ask me I found the fourtth illustration with moust potential. I'll look forward for your next step. Keep the good work!

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03 March 2005, 04:48 PM (

just a 'lineart' version to make sure I cover all the milestones required. from here on I'll be painting.

03 March 2005, 04:53 PM
I'm digging perspective of this one, very nice.

03 March 2005, 04:54 PM (

just a small thumb to play with some colours. I like the warm palette for the landscape, but I think the sky and clouds aren't dramatic enough (will need to do more research). Untill then I will rest my tired brain within my delicious head (hmmm... taste like balogney)


03 March 2005, 04:54 PM
LineArt looks great thus far keep with it. I like the visual of #4 the best thus far.

03 March 2005, 05:24 PM
excellent stuff mate..... really am.liking ur idea. could be great

03 March 2005, 06:02 PM
Great stuff so far dude. I like the battle field idea. Maybe the leader should be carried buy some slaves or something followed by his army, it would make the connection between the great sketches and the subject more obvious. That's just my silly opinion :D

03 March 2005, 07:50 PM (

just beginning the rough paints... I began with upscaling the colour thumbnail study and began painting over the sky (used some handy photo reference I took last year of an approaching thunder storm). Next phase will be to begin rough detailing of the hills & landscape (fingers crossed)

thanks for the encouragement / crits everyone. back to painting!

03 March 2005, 01:10 AM
these are some of the more intriguing sketches i've seen for sure. i'm stoked to see how you develop this. niiiice.

03 March 2005, 05:26 AM
i must comment on the lighting its superb.

will look out for more updates.

03 March 2005, 07:24 AM
Hey Artjunkie!!

I looked art your first page and was gonna comment on my favourite... and then opened a new window and my favourite is the one you've chosen! Woohoo!!

But the set of ideas and sketches look really impressive. I could imagine any of them being worked up into a strong final image. Each one's got great mood and fantastic camera angles. But i really like the way the kid is clinging to the leg of the wizard on the one you're going with...

Fab... i'll keep watching this one...

03 March 2005, 02:47 AM
Great concept sketches and I like the way your heading :thumbsup: I do like the storm one :)

03 March 2005, 11:46 AM
thanks for the input and encouragement folks!

I'm experimenting with more detailed designs for the wizard and girl characters. will post these soon. I was thinking of making the wizard look less human in the face... like maybe he once was human, but his long life of magic had begun to transform him. the girl will still be a young human. any thoughts?

03 March 2005, 09:24 PM
what's up dude,

So you are doing the one with the shaman. cool. I think that's the most strongest piece you have, especially when it comes to composition and emotional content. Good start on the painting so far dude. I'll be watching your thread dude.


03 March 2005, 09:34 PM
Can't wait to see the next steps.
I really like the raven-guy. But maybe that is a bit too much of a cliché?
Make sure that all those highlights and textures in the background don't distract from the figures too much.
That is the only danger I see when I compare the grayscale sketch and the colored one.
Rock on!

03 March 2005, 09:45 PM
Hey these are some awesome sketches!! You have ood perspevtive skills. (something which I must work on)

ered dium
03 March 2005, 09:47 PM
Hi artjunkie, I really like your sketches. The color of the last one is nice.
The character looks interesting and also his past (he once was human, but his long life of magic had begun to transform him).....keep going.

Master and Servant ( - Leo Calv

03 March 2005, 01:03 AM (

still working on finalizing the look of the wizard... here are some sketches. any suggestions?

03 March 2005, 01:15 AM
Great stuff so far, Artjunkie! Like duddlebug, I liked this layout the most, so it's good to see you moving forward on it. As for your wizard sketches, they're all interesting. #3 is too comical for me, and #2 just doesn't look incrediblty intelligent. (It's the impression of buck-teeth and the eyebrows' expression. And once you're doing so many interesting things with a non-human wizard, 5 loses some appeal because it's all just a mask, it could very well be just another elf underneath. That leaves 1 and 4, which are both cool. I think I find the nose and especially the eyes on #1 really the most interesting, though it could be worth fooling around with different expressions.

Anyhow, great work so far. Good luck with it!


03 March 2005, 01:40 AM
i agree. #1 Definitely stands out the most. The expression on the face really gives the sense of his concentration and power

03 March 2005, 04:19 AM
(1) for sure. shows an old age wisdom, the village witch doctor and his apprentice.

03 March 2005, 07:27 AM
Yup... i'd plump for no.1 too...

He's got a wise old face and a head full of clever stuff and good fire-side stories!! I reckon he could start the fire with a couple of twigs too. And cook up something splendid and delicious from things he found in the trees. And survive for weeks in the wilderness with only a box of matches, half a plastic bottle and a handkerchief. He's the fella. F'sure. :)

Being serious though. I'd definitely go for something like no.1. And i really like your sketches!

03 March 2005, 09:51 AM
good design.....
i'm pursuiting....:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 11:35 AM
thanks alot guys... I really appreciate the advice.

duddlebug: LOL, you're crazy... but you're right! he DOES have a head full of clever stuff (twigs, lint and buttons). sad to say, his cooking sucks... otherwise he'd have more pupils to tutor. Wha ha haaa!

I'll begin working on different expressions for wizard design 1 while I continue my rough paints for the bg scenery. Damnit! A friend at work said she liked #1, but at the time I wasn't fond of any of them. now I have to go into work and tell her she was right! (shakes fist angrily into the air) ha ha ha.

anil6tr: still waiting for your updates, buddy!

03 March 2005, 12:38 PM
Wow, that´s a great character concepts, it´s good for the eyes! good luck on your entry!


04 April 2005, 12:06 AM (

finished fleshing out the ground (this feels more like a landscape than a bit of fantasy... but, that's okay I guess since I've never painted landscape before)

I tried blurring the grass in the foreground to mimic depth of field (and possibly give some movement energy, though the flying bits of debris will help with this when I get around to adding them)

I'll finish designing and do rough paints on the characters before upres-ing the file for final details. Any comments or crits are welcome, folks.


04 April 2005, 08:57 AM
oh starts....
really good start ...:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 08:57 AM
very well!i like your last paint very much! nice DOF.
i'm looking forward to your update:)

04 April 2005, 10:13 AM
good progression dude and cool sketch of the old shaman. I would go with the first one too.


04 April 2005, 11:21 AM
thanks again for everyone's comments... they encourage me.

I'm looking forward to this weekend so I can devote some time to this challenge (storyboarding for animated TV shows has a way of cutting into my free time... go figure). My next step is to rough in the characters and make sure they're integrated into the environment. Now that I look at it, I think the clouds could be darker (more moody & threatening) and I need to carry some of the pale yellows from the grass highlights into the clouds. Anyhoo...look for updates soon!

I am soooooooooo glad it's Friday!


04 April 2005, 11:22 AM
oooh nice colours,liking those clouds.

04 April 2005, 11:22 AM
Very nice progress man!
Did u used photo references for clouds?

04 April 2005, 11:31 AM
Xtronik: Yes, I used reference for the clouds. Last summer a thunderstorm front began covering the sky, so I ran up to the rooftop patio of my apartment building (not too smart in a thunderstorm, I know) and took 3 or 4 snaps with my digital camera.

Well... (yawn)... I've gotta get my arse in gear and head down to the animation studio and finish my week. Looking forward to beer and pizza!


04 April 2005, 07:52 PM
Omg I love that background !:eek:

04 April 2005, 02:52 AM
WOW ! that is some FANTASTIC mood you got going there art j. i really loved the witch doctor and the grass all swirling up. I also loved your concept with the master and his army on the battle field. :wip:
Can't wait to see where u take this.

04 April 2005, 03:25 PM (

did some fine tuning of the wizard... a little more 'realistic' and not as stylized as my initial sketches. Will proceed to rough paints with this as my guide. I'll add bits of jewelry and probably body paint or tattoos?

I'm still working out details on the little girl servant, which for some reason is proving a bit more difficult for me.

anyhoo... back to painting.

04 April 2005, 03:41 PM
Very powerfull stuff inhere! Im ashamed that I didnt find this thread before... My best concept was no. 3 I think, the raven master. Probably coz of the perspective and light and darg places on the image u shown us there. But the storm master looks like a very powerfull image as well. Very beautifull colors, which I would desaturated a bit at he end, maybe colorize half of the pic in more blue tones... U know.. the storm is on its way :) Just to show that more and for a better dramatical feeling I think. Just my opinion... Keep going with ur great work! Im following now :)

04 April 2005, 04:06 PM
dude he is looking pretty creepy... i love it. I would give him a little bit more expression though. Just to show his superiority or to show that he is conjuring the storm.


04 April 2005, 04:59 PM (

beginning to rough the wizard guy. I put him in the scene to give me a feel for how the colours work (need to add some brighter hits of sunlight on him). I also gave him a bit of a grimace - he is concentrating on summoning a storm, after all!

Once I get the girl to a similarly complete stage, I'll uprez the art to final dimensions and finish detailing (grass & bg hill need to be at the same level of detail as the wizard & servant girl)

Anyhoo... it's beginning to take shape.

04 April 2005, 05:01 PM (

Just a detail of the previous post. I'll lose the sketch lines for the next painting step.

04 April 2005, 05:34 PM
can't wait to see the image without the sketch line , anyway I like the compo , but WHere are servants? ^^

BTW he is very scary :/
I'll don't sleep tonight , ehehehe ^^

04 April 2005, 05:46 PM
It's very nice image! coloring and lighting is great ! wait for the detail coloring version! good luck

04 April 2005, 05:48 PM
Patience my Neozoom friend... the servant is coming soon... the girl will be huddled behind the wizard, clutching to his skirt (that's right, he's wearing a SKIRT!) I just need to find some decent reference for children (a scared child at that). The face is key... needs to portray the emotions.

Thanks for checking in folks. Updates will follow soon! Cheers!

04 April 2005, 06:05 PM
excellent work!! i luv the clouds the most.

04 April 2005, 06:10 PM
Hi artjunkie,

Thank you for your comment! Looking at your work now, youre definitely talented. I like what you have so far, particularly the background and your choice of colors. I live in Colorado and just east of where I live are nothing but plains and sky. Some of my favorite days are ones where there are obvious storm clouds, Im talking really dark and moody, but there is an inexplicable light along the fields, almost as if it was a cloudless sunny day. I think your background captures that scene so well.

The wizard looks great but I do agree with ARC80 that the he needs a little more expression and dynamisism. Maybe have him screaming to give the image a little more motion, like hes just about to **** shit up. I think the servant will add even more to this once we see her expression/reaction to whats going on.

Since I realize that this is not complete, I will just say great work. I will be coming back to check in on your progress:)

04 April 2005, 12:17 PM
Hey I also forgot to reply, I have this separate bookmark folder for the entries I'm following(tha damn thing stretches over the entire screen:argh:), so little time and so little a head. :(

You've been doing some great stuff. The pose on the indian wizard/witch is really strong. You could always google for images. Wouldn't know if it turns up anything but probably will. I even found high res photo's of orchids!:shrug:worth a shot.

C Ya

04 April 2005, 05:29 PM (

A couple of you suggested giving the wizard a little more expression. Here are two face sketches, a grimace and a yell. I think the yell is closer to what I'm goin' for. Whattaya think?

04 April 2005, 05:34 PM (

here's a rough lineart of the little servant girl, hiding behind the wizard in fright. I compiled this drawing from various reference material (hard to find good children reference).

Anyhoo... I'll be taking time to begin roughs on these characters and then plop them back into the scene to bring all the colours together as a harmonious unit (at least, that's the plan)

Wish me luck!

04 April 2005, 06:59 PM
i like the open mouthed expression,

the gurl is great....aaaaaaw ain't she cute

i hope she dies:twisted:

04 April 2005, 07:15 PM
Yeah very cute kid.

face and curly hair do it I guess.

04 April 2005, 11:50 PM (

Here's a background update I forgot to post last week. Grass has become my newest enemy.

04 April 2005, 12:33 AM
The updates look great, I really like the way it is coming together. the expressions are great on both characters. Keep up the great work!

04 April 2005, 12:41 AM
well bad news for grass! cause it seems like you beat it hands down! You rule the prairies! This background alone should be given a cgchoice award. Don't ruin it with characters hehe!

okay stupid joke, very neat, clean,and doesn't feel plastic at all, rather illustrative and captivating!

looking really forward to your final image!

cheers friend!

04 April 2005, 12:44 AM
whoaaa! sorry I missed your character sketches!

the little girl looks excellent even with only line art, the master looks great, but not as top notch as the little chic!


04 April 2005, 01:34 AM
This is coming along nicely Grant. No crits from me at this time. Just wanted to say that I really enjoyed going through your thread.

04 April 2005, 10:53 AM
I really like what you've done so far. The character design on the master is really nice. And fantastic has a really nice warm feel to it. I also like the blurred grass in the foreground, nice touch. Oh and I like your clouds a lot, very dramatic. :)

Look forward to seeing the next stage! (maybe I'll actually have some suggestions, rather than just gushing over how much I like it!).

04 April 2005, 10:58 AM
oooookaaay u got my attention, this is a seriously incredible background:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:02 AM
Eeeee, such a wonderful, dramatic landscape!

I love how the landscape alone is projecting emotions; this is not an easy thing to do. I also love the composition of it, the flow of it (the clouds and the hills all seeming to dance together). I'm curious to see how you'll get the human elements in without interrupting this flow and the way the landscape 'works' :bounce:

04 April 2005, 01:04 PM
Thanks sooooo much for everyone's comments. This is only my 2nd EVER digital painting (the first being my attempt at the Machine Flesh Challenge) so your encouragement and critiques are MUCHLY appreciated.

Yeah, Linda... I too am curious as to how the characters will work out (wipes sweaty brow & hands shake in fear). Here's an idea... why don't YOU do my humans for me! Oh, and feel free to fudge with the background too, while you're at it... and the clouds... AH HECK, just do my painting for me and I'll pay you, mwah, ha haaa! (sigh) I guess I wouldn't learn anything about digital painting if you did that for me, now would I.

Thanks again for everyone's helpful suggestions.

Now for the pityful earth monkey and his human worm baby (paints furiously)

04 April 2005, 11:06 AM
Nice background, this should look great!

04 April 2005, 02:05 PM
Oh I am glad you are ging with the storm :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:12 AM
awsome depth! Id love to be there right now...

04 April 2005, 12:21 AM
Hey, I haven't checked in in a while and it's looking great! Wonderful sense of light, and a great warm/cool contrast you have going on there with the whole setting and the figure on the blue sky backdrop.Of the two facial expressions, I actually like the grimace more than the full-out yell, which I find too extreme (and it might be interpreted that he's yelling at his servant.. is he? (She's really cute, by the way!))

If he's summoning a storm, it might not hurt to make the clouds on the far right even more extreme. Right now they're dark, but i bet it would look even more intense if the color got even darker, huge black clouds ready to burst but holding it all in until commanded to drop forth the rain by their own master the sorcerer.

Anyhow, great work so far... I look forward to seeing the girl painted in too!


04 April 2005, 02:17 PM
thats really nice... i felt like i was laying pon the ground lookign at the far horizon ad the storms gathering... nice

04 April 2005, 04:22 PM
I've quite missed the first part of your thread, but I'm quite happy to see it now. Your landscape is just perfect! It would be cool to see a duel between your sorceror against my witch... It would certainly do some interesting destruction! :D Great work so far.

04 April 2005, 11:25 PM
Kraull, that's an awesome idea, LOL! Magical destruction at it's best.

walrus... yeah, I kinda like the grimace better too. I started painting the sorcerer with the shouting expression and didn't like it... too over the top. I want a more subtle strain on his face. So I'm goin' with the grimace... grrrrrrrrrrrrrr!

Those of you who like the landscape enough to want to be there... that's a great compliment. Thanks. Like I said earlier... this is only my 2nd ever digital painting and I've never painted a landscape before (in digital or traditional medium). So, your comments encourage me greatly.

I'll soon be posting some rough paints of the sorcerer and little girl (she's quickly becoming my favourite, the little nipper). Will look forward to everyone's helpful crits!


04 April 2005, 11:30 PM (

Okay, started laying out the base colours for the wizard guy and decided at first to go with the yelling expression. Once I got this far, I didn't like it so I repainted the head and continued from there (post to follow shortly)

04 April 2005, 11:35 PM (

I like this expression much better. A more subtle, strained look of concentration. Added some highlights and shadow to get a feel for the lighting. I may add some tats to him (did an overlay test and they looked kinda cool).

I still have the pencil linework overlaying the paint, but that'll get removed for my next update. I just need it to see where I'm adding all the wizardy bits of jewelry and junk (oh, and his hair)

I'll post the rough of the little girl (in a similar state of completion) soon. Right now... I must sleep.

04 April 2005, 02:16 AM
Ooo! Technically there are two servants here: the girl AND the storm. I like the shaman's wide-set (understatement!) gaze--it gives him an odd sort of distance from the humanity of the girl.

Can't wait to see the rest! May Dib not invade your lair and distract you with his pitiful human schemes. :D

04 April 2005, 03:57 AM
great work on the body. i cant wait for you to start work on the girl ^__^ then i think this piece will start comming together more.

04 April 2005, 10:19 AM (

After alot of repainting, I think I'm finally headed in a direction I feel comfortable with ('comfort' being used as a relative term... I'm not that used to painting - let alone PEOPLE! Grrrr)

Used some photo reference from various sources (some I took myself to act as a lighting guide... NO, I didn't take them of ME! Yeesh, that'd be just WRONG, LOL)

As always, your crits and comments are most welcome... I do need help, you know.

04 April 2005, 03:03 PM
This is wonderful! I love the golden fields! And the wizard! Ok, I am partial to half-naked wizards... hahhaa... :)

Wow and this is ur 2nd digital :)

04 April 2005, 09:36 PM
I don't want to nitpick or anything, but She seems a little too red or something. I was expecting to see orange on her because of the grass around her. :shrug:But I can't really paint, so.

04 April 2005, 01:13 PM
what's up dude,

Good expression and i think the colour is fine. It just needs to be polish (which you're probably working on, hehe). That's all i could say right now. I'll wait till there is more details, but as usual your work is looking great.


04 April 2005, 04:42 PM
I don't know why your thread has long been invisble to me.
Really interesting subject. And you're doing a great job :bounce:



04 April 2005, 08:09 PM (

Just updating the BG... finally got around to properly painting the grass in the foreground (still not finished) and I darkened the clouds a little to make them a bit more moody.

I'll work on the characters this weekend, I PROMISE! The 'ol dayjob thing was getting in the way of painting this week (sigh).

Oh, and thanks to everyone who keep dropping by to encourage me. It means alot...

04 April 2005, 08:12 PM
looks lovely,inspirational.

man i haven't update in like 5 days

*opens photoshop*

*closes photoshop*


04 April 2005, 10:39 AM
great progress, those clouds are so awesome :thumbsup: I see some really nice skin tones coming out..

04 April 2005, 02:05 AM
artjunkie: Hi there! Very nice landscape! I love what you did with the sky--the clouds are terrific!

As I see how you're going to put the master and slave characters, I suggest you place them near the foreground so we can see them more clearly. I'm interested with their faces and emotions.

That's all. Good work so far!

04 April 2005, 01:03 PM
Awesome clouds :thumbsup:
The contrast between ground and sky is great, maybe just a little fuzzyness on the horizon to increase the feel of depth.
Can't wait to see the characters set in this very nice background.:bounce:

Keep going on

04 April 2005, 05:26 PM (

Just begining to flesh out some details on the wizard. Still haven't worked on his 'dress' (need to get some fabric references... most likely a thick weave dark canvas or perhaps rawhide... something natural)

I'm also avoiding his face for now... there's an idea I'm toolin' around with regarding face paint (like some shaumans or warriors have in many tribal cultures). I'll let you know how the experiment goes *fingers crossed*

04 April 2005, 05:28 PM
looking good so far.. just love that sky

04 April 2005, 05:31 PM (

Here's the latest on the little girl, clutching to the unfinished painted skirt of her master. Still need to finish her hair and body (and the raggy clothes she's wearing) but I'm pretty pleased with where it's going. Wish me luck on finishing her.

I'll post one last WIP for today so you can see the master & servant in context.

04 April 2005, 05:41 PM (

Here's a bit of a wider shot (not the full wide) to show master & servant together in their environment.

Still need to incorporate some blowing bits of grass & debris (you know, frizbees, flying saucers, bigfoot, etc.)

Time to go out into the REAL world now and try to enjoy what's left of this weekend. My skin is soooooo pale from lack of sunlight, I'm practically transparent... like those creepy blind gecko-like lizards that live deep in caves! At the office we call it a 'studio tan' (there's very little natural light at our animation studio).

04 April 2005, 05:50 PM
Finally, un update from you, hehe. Very nice. The colours are blending out nicely and the details are coming along great. One thing that's bothering me is how the foreground blade of grass cutting part of the hand of the shaman. Just watch out on tangency.
Their expressions are great. Very cool. very very cool.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend bro.

Archie :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:04 PM
wow!looking good!:) nice coloring mate!:thumbsup: go on!

04 April 2005, 06:09 PM
hey bro....
really it's going fascinating...we're pursuiting my bro...
really good....go on...

04 April 2005, 06:23 PM

This is turning out wonderfully. Colour choices are flawless and I adore the depth of field. If anything, I would like to see the highlights on the girl's arm and shoulder tuned down a little - they feel a tad bit too drastic.

Can't wait to see next update :D Wheee!

04 April 2005, 06:33 PM
actually nice concept I really like it and I will keep watching your WIP artjunkie .

04 April 2005, 06:35 PM
Looking good so far - very dramatic. I like how the grass in the foreground kind of drags the viewer into the painting. Keep it up! :)

04 April 2005, 06:59 PM
I was on my way out the door when I realized I had visitors... thanks for the encouragement folks. I really felt like I needed it today, lol!

Arc80: Thanks... and yeah, you're right. I don't want to cover up something I spent HALF A F***ING DAY TO PAINT, ha ha ha haaaa.

goktug: Thanks man!

anil6tr: Thanks, I will forge onward... when I get in the right mood again, ha ha ha. I need a break.

Enalya: You doll... you have no idea how encouraging it is to hear compliments from you. Especially regarding the characters (something I've painted precious little of). Your input is a treasure. Yes, I will cut down that stark highlight on her shoulder and hand... it is a bit glaring isn't it.

abourabe: Glad you like it... and I'm watching YOU too! LOL. Keep up your good work.

Mythmaker: Thanks... I was hoping the composition would take the viewer's eye through the grass, to the characters, across the field to the hills and then up into the sky. Well, that was the plan anyway, ha ha ha. I'm glad you, at least, appreciate it!

Oooookay! Seriously, I need to go outside while it's still light out. Chat with you all later, and thanks again for the helpful input! I am humbled.


04 April 2005, 07:02 PM
Great interpretation! Nice environment, rich relationship... grats!

cheers: Kornél

04 April 2005, 08:04 AM
Looking great, mate.

Love the expression on the child.....very cool


04 April 2005, 08:57 AM
Yo Grant!... or Yo M! :)

I've been a huge fan of your landscape already nice to see that you've got just as much detail going on in character development. I really like both character's hair the best though. Small issues with the torso of your master I couldn't explain, but I feel something about it (maybe the twisting position or the hips, but excuse me for not being able to explain what actually "bothers" me). I went through your challenge page but could not get an overview of how your comp looks with both characters in the scene, and I'm really looking forward to the storm you're gonna whip up! Very nice mood, the lights on his body are totally believable!

Good vibes, and persistance to You friend!

check you later!


04 April 2005, 09:01 AM
You know actually nothing serious with the torso, leave it! it was just me being too much of a know-it-all on my last post!

sorry, really...


04 April 2005, 10:46 AM
NOW THIS IS MUCH MORE LIKE IT ! Hey man been holding back watching u do the landscape. The Shamen dude is looking cool. I like the lighting in your piece.
This is turning out very nice. :applause:
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04 April 2005, 11:22 AM
Wonderful looking work so far. And the idea is one that really appeals to me. I love the way you've not made the sorcerer or the child clichéd, they have a very unique look. The framing of the picture with the grasses is a lovely touch, really give a sense of depth and mystery to the characters. Lovely work on the storm clouds too. I can't find anything to crit on thus far, great work!

04 April 2005, 12:41 PM
his head is kinda spooky, but thats expectable, since he is blind. i love your work, all of your sketches are great, and the last one is truly magnificent..the colours look great!:)

04 April 2005, 08:27 PM
Will you some hair on the shaman's body ? To me, he looks a little to tidy :wise:
Anyhow, great piece of work !

04 April 2005, 11:50 PM
Thanks to everyone taking time to visit my humble little thread. I've recieved much in the way of gracious advice and encouragement from artists far more talented than I may ever hope to become. You guys & gals are GREAT! Thanks soooooo much! Now, onto the replies...

Kornél: Thanks... the relationship extends to the weather as well... the wizard is master of both the little girl servant AND the elements are also under his control. I think that's why I wanted to include so much landscape in the painting... it's just as much a character as the wizard and girl.

Paul D: Dude, thanks for droppin' bye... I'm honoured! Love your entry by the way... as always, brilliant stuff from you.

Adamos: Thanks for the crit, man... and it's cool if you feel 'uncomfortable' about certain parts of the wizard's anatomy - I'm taking some artistic license with it to give him an 'unnatural' vibe.

Tariq12: Thanks man... the wizard still has quite a bit of work... I'm gonna maybe add some tribal face paint and tats on his body (perhaps magic symbols?). I'll try to get him finished off this week, but more likely it'll be after next weekend.

Zepyhri: Thanks alot... glad to know you enjoy what I've done so far. Thanks for droppin' in!

calisto: Yeah, I wanted the wizard to look 'unsettling'... but he's not blind, I just haven't finished his eyes yet - which will be a very dark colour with no whites to them. And I have them really far apart to give him that 'unnatural' look.

spacesnail: Nah, I won't be giving him a hairy body because I want to try putting some tattoos or magic symbols on him. Hopefully he won't look too squeaky clean after that, lol! Thanks for the compliment.

04 April 2005, 04:10 AM
Wow, I love the concept. And the background is awesome.

yeah, I agree he looks a bit too clean for a crazy shaman... Tattoos/runes on his skin would be awesome. There's just too much... white O_O
I dunno, he seemed quite out of place in the surroundings... can't seem to place a finger on the exact thing that bugs me - but it may be just his skin tone. That, or it may be the hair color/style.. or maybe it's the sinister looking face. I'd prefer the master looking more wise, than just like a complete psycho.


04 April 2005, 04:34 PM
He is creepy, which is a credit to you because its really difficult to convey a genuine 'freaky feeling' of a personage on paint. And you have just done it..good job.

04 April 2005, 05:27 PM
Nice work junkie. I think you have something original here. While to me it looks like it takes place in some Fantasy storyline I think you've come up with a really cool and different take. Creepy Master, looks like a real nasty bastard. I think you did a great job on the kids expression. Oh and of course the landscape looks mint too.

04 April 2005, 06:03 PM
cool concept, a dominant mentor and an adamant servant... likes ur grass. i agree w/ comments on the shaman's body, maybe make it a little rougher, i dnt know whats your plan though... great work!

04 April 2005, 08:27 PM
REALLY AM LOVING THIS ..the angl is really nice.... got nothig much to add realy. just enjoying it

04 April 2005, 08:14 AM
Hey artjunkie!! It's looking reeeeally nice...

The girl is just brilliant. There's so much life and emotion in her. I love the pose and the expression on her face. Perfect.

It's really coming together... good luck!!

04 April 2005, 04:39 PM
damn this is great.

if i were a gurl i wud be having multiple orgasms.

04 April 2005, 05:04 PM
Your picture look very good..sketchs were great and color WIP look in the same way..good good..

04 April 2005, 05:29 PM
wow cool scene artjunkie .... the grass, the hair, the sky! the expression on the girls face...

very good artjunkie :thumbsup: I love finding fantastic entry's i havent noticed before :)

hmmm no crits really....ahhh one little thing maybe... your shading is very good and I'd like to see 1-2 more colortones in the shadows on the shaman ... mostly on the left side the shoulder and breast part...preferably some blueish - lila tones from the wonderful sky ... but this is just personal taste really..



04 April 2005, 05:50 PM
still lookin great! keep up..and post more!!:)

04 April 2005, 02:24 PM
great work :bounce:
waiting for your great final pics
good luck

04 April 2005, 03:31 PM (

I've only had a few hours during this weekend to begin detailing on the wizard... and I'm not feeling up to painting much more at the moment... so I'll post what I have and try to make time next week to bring this piece together more.

I'm trying out my tattoo idea... I kinda like it, but I don't want to hide too much of the nicely rendered torso. Added some bits 'o stones & feathers for jewelry... still struggling with the skirt material (so I won't bother showing that just yet, tee hee)

Constructive C&C most welcome! Oh, and a big thanks to you guys for taking the time to comment and encourage.

Will be posting again in a couple of days... cheers!

04 April 2005, 04:10 PM
Very nice Shaman. That is looking nice. I personally like the tattoo and how it is not too dark. It adds some mytisicm to your character. The add ons are nice too. Can't wait for your next post dude. :thumbsup:


04 April 2005, 07:20 PM
Just a little drop to encourage and admire : nice work on the tattoos :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Keep going on

04 April 2005, 07:36 PM
Hello, your technique and the details are neat in your painting, I could suggest you re-examining the tended arm and the hand to go further, go, go

04 April 2005, 07:51 PM
That's great! Go on, it can only become better :bounce:

I like his face, very stylish and the hands are well drawn.

04 April 2005, 09:55 PM
good consept and coloring ...kepp it up...

04 April 2005, 11:25 PM
Very well done mate.the tattoos are super.The work here is inspiring.:buttrock:

04 April 2005, 08:03 AM
going better! nice tattoo!:thumbsup: good update!
now..waiting your another update`mate:)

04 April 2005, 08:25 AM
The tatoos add greatly to the shaman's character. Look forward to seeing more. :)

Small question, how far apart are the shaman's eyes supposed to be?

04 April 2005, 12:48 PM
ugh... down with the flu or something today... feelin' pretty crappy, but I thought I'd just catch up on my replies to you awesome folks who stopped by. Again all your c&c have been muchly appreciated.

Nemein: thanks for dropping by. I know he (and the girl) may seem a bit out of place in the environment at the moment, but I plan to remedy that toward the final stages of painting when I make sure all the colours and textures are finished and each relates to it's neighbour. *sigh* so much yet to do...

sho-nuff, Gamoron: Thanks... I'm glad you find him creepy but not too typical of most wizards.

arkinet: yeah... I USED to like grass... now I don't, LOL. It was a bit of a pain to paint, but once I saw Enayla's grass, I stopped complaining :eek:

W!L: thanks for droppin' by, mate.

duddlebug: Dude! thanks for the encouragement. Your stuff is comin' along great too! :D

NOOB!: LOL thanks for that... sheesh, multipule orgasims... you crazy...

Fiolka Alexandre: Thanks... I love sketching and don't get to do as much as I like. These challenges are great ways to exercise myself artistically. y'know... try things I wouldn't ordinarily get to try.

Vahn: Thanks for checking in and the encouragement! :D Yeah, once I get close to the end of this piece I'll make some minor colouring adjustments to make sure everything gels together as a whole.

calisto: thanks, bro... I'll try, but working a regular day job (storyboarding for animated TV shows) usually doesn't leave me with much free time... usually just weekends to paint.

xric7: thank you... and good luck to you!

Arc80: I'm glad you like his tats... I had some fooling around with overlays to get the right look, not too dark, but also the right colour. Still have to finish his hair, staff and 'dress' yet.

spacesnail: thanks bro... your encouragement means alot. I'll be checking in on your post soon! :D

Tranchefeux: thanks for you comments. yeah, I know I'm not finished the extended hand just yet (like alot of other things in this painting, LOL). I'll get to it, I promise! :D

Maidith: Aw, thank you so much. Love your entry by the way.

korayarts: Hey man, I'll try :D Appreciate you stopping by!

Onsloh: thanks... I hate designing for tattoos LOL! Glad you like em.

goktug: Yeah, it's slowly coming along... thanks.

gorvien1: Thanks for commenting! The shaman's face (as I have mentioned earlier) has been slightly distorted from his long life in dealing with magic... the practice has altered him. Hence his eyes have become dark and 'stretched' further apart. Also his nose has begun to sink into his face and become upturned. I wanted to add these little physical 'oddities' to give the shaman an unsettling, almost unnatural feel. Was I successful? *shrugs* who knows, LOL!

Okay, folks... I'm gonna unplug for a bit and slip into a nice medicated coma for a few hours. I hate being sick. Thanks again so much for all your helpful comments and encouragement.


04 April 2005, 12:55 PM
Cool drawing and idea ! GG :)
I'll keep an eye on u!

04 April 2005, 01:53 PM
now i'm thinking about tattoo
can i copy yours :twisted:
very nice tattoo design.
my m and s

04 April 2005, 04:48 PM
yippee, that's gonna blow some minds maaan =)

04 April 2005, 12:58 AM
hey, this is looking great man, details are coming along nicely.

04 April 2005, 05:00 AM
DUDE! The tat's are wild! I love it! they do not "hide" the rendering. they add to the picture! Awsome!! :thumbsup:

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04 April 2005, 05:23 AM
Awesome piece, unique and defiantely fresh style. love the wicked way you create neat detailing and powerfull high dynamic posing. light and skin-"shader" look awesome.! keep on going! cheers:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:53 AM
hi artjunkie!

just popped in to wish you luck and to say that the idea is really great.. i like it a lot! the tatoos suit the magician very well :thumbsup:

waiting for updates!

04 April 2005, 09:59 AM
the waist hightlight are too high

04 April 2005, 10:21 PM
Hi artjunkie! This wizard is looking great, most if it his tatoos! I like tatoos a lot. Cant wait to see the rest! Think... perhaps the shadows could be a little more sharpened, not so soft, I think. I am thinking in a sundown where the sun is more yellow and the shadows more strong. Just a comment! Good luck!

04 April 2005, 12:35 PM
Come on artjunkie, just a little update :scream:

04 April 2005, 06:29 PM (

Sorry for the lack of updates for those who've been watching for 'em (spacesnail... I'm lookin' at you, ha ha). I honestly haven't found time this week to paint much... I promise I'll work ALOT on the weekend. PROMISE!

Anyhoo... I've just begun roughing in his shaman's staff. I wanted a big skull on the top of it. I tried adding a hairy mane on it, but it looked horrible. I'm not sure if I want the skull bigger or smaller... any thoughts?

Also, I don't know if you can tell from this update, but I fixed the little girl's eyes. A friend at work pointed out they were a bit misaligned (good eye, Rae!)

Now I'm off to order D'artiste... oh, man I can't wait!


04 April 2005, 10:03 PM
Just dropping by to check out the update. Pretty cool. That's another nice add on with the staff. I know you're not done with it, so i'll wait for the next update. :thumbsup:

cheers :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 10:45 PM
*sigh* This is progressing so amazingly well, the details are simply too good... <3

04 April 2005, 12:20 PM
Superb detail, very well thought out. However, I'm a bit peturbed by his resemblence to Michael Jackson. Aeow!

04 April 2005, 12:22 PM
you're goin great! this stuff looks soo cool!:applause:

maxim capra
04 April 2005, 07:50 PM
wow, your stuff is awesome, you have some great concepts ... i would have liked the raven master most... i wish i could draw such expressive characters

04 April 2005, 09:02 PM
I like the tattoo and the whole piece is wonderful
great work man !

04 April 2005, 09:08 PM
Interesting idea you have there (lately, I'm seeing more of the "Master/Apprentice" concepts in peoples entries... which is nicer than all the "naked women servants" ideas I saw at the beginning :D ).

I love the look of the Shaman; his design gives a sense that he's spent a long time in this field (his body could be a bit older, but that's just me). The skull on his staff looks about right - any bigger and it would double as Skeletor's weapon. :p

04 April 2005, 11:35 PM
Hey, folks... had a COMPLETELY unproductive weekend (and I loved it :D ) so I'm afraid no real updates to show just yet. Will work throughout this week and post next weekend... PROMISE! (where have you heard THAT one before, right? LOL)

k33d: Thanks

xric7: LOL, dude my tats would just make your beautifully painted character look like ass! I'm sure you can design something far better than I could. :D Thanks for the complement.

LonTree: Thanks man... love the avatar. Is that Raziel from The Legacy of Kain?!! Cool.

Nigel Q: Appreciate you stoppin' by... and thanks for the encouragement.

Samuraikuroi: I used some of the layer options in Photoshop so I wouldn't just be hiding the carefully rendered highlights and shadows. I was pretty pleased with the result. Thanks for the comment, bro.

the1st_angel: Oh, such lovely encouragement from someone sooooo talented. Thank you so much! :D

dunkelgold: Hey! Great to see you stop by my thread. Thanks for your encouragement. Love your 2D entry by the way.

Darkone2652: Thanks for the crit... I tend to disagree, but I may need to do some minor adjustments when I get close to finishing. I'll keep this point in mind. Cheers!

kaparo: Thank you for your comments! Yeah, I probably could have sharpened the edge of the shadows a bit more... but at this point, I still think it works fine as is. Again, when I'm close to finishing this piece I'll see about adjusting little things like that.

spacesnail: Thanks for kickin' me in the ass to keep me on my game, bro... LOL! Keep in mind, I'm not as prolific an artist as you are (or as talented)! :D I'll do my best to keep updating regularly. Thanks for the encouragement. Love your entry man... awesome stuff.

Arc80: Thanks for stoppin' by to check this thread out. I'll visit yours in a minute!

BlacKeri: I really appreciate your kind words. Thanks so much!

Baron Impossible: LOL! Michael Jackson?!! LOL! Dude, that IS scary... thanks alot, now I can't help but see something of a resemblence, goddamnit! :cry:

calisto: Thanks so much for the encouragement! I think your stuff rocks, by the way.

maxim capra: Thank you. I kinda liked the raven theme too... I'll most likely go back to it after this challenge is up.

abourabe: Thanks for the encouragement. Cheers!

ArtisticVisions: Thanks... you could be right about his body *shrug* I wasn't sure how old I wanted him to be when I started painting him, :hmm:

Well, thanks again guys for all the wonderful interest and encouragement. I'll update soon! No really... I will. Honest. :D


05 May 2005, 05:38 PM
Good day ,eh. Shapeing up very nicely indeed! Love the mode and the lighting on the kids face. Good stuff Grant!

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05 May 2005, 05:42 PM
very impressive man!

05 May 2005, 12:29 AM
Samuraikuroi: LOL, oh god pluheeeeeese DO NOT say 'eh'... I'm not sure what dufus from Canada talks like that, but they certainly aren't around where I live, ha ha ha. Thanks for your comments. I've been workin' on the kid a bit this weekend, but I'm not ready to post anything just yet (not quite going where I want it... but I'll work it out... eventually)

NOOB!: Thanks alot for stopping by to encourage me.

I've been a bit preoccupied this weekend with visiting family members (great to see them, it'll be even greater when the leave, ha ha ha... no, really). So, I haven't done as much work on this challenge as I wanted to. Next week will be crunch time, however so I'm sure I'll get ALOT done.


No, really!

05 May 2005, 12:58 AM
hehe, expected uhm... a bit more :p luckily time doesnt run want that timestoopmachine too. Hehe, go go go!!! (hope to see next time a bit more of an update mate :D) keep it up!

05 May 2005, 01:25 AM
beautiful... cool tatoo, and creepy face, neeatt...:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 11:09 PM (

Oooookay... crunch time is upon us, and I must get this piece pulled together. I worked on the wizard's costume and finished his staff. Also added some grass and twig debris in the air to give the indication of strong wind (not sure how successful it is *shrug*).

I'll post a detail shot in a bit... until then, c&c muchly appreciated (and needed, I think LOL)


05 May 2005, 11:11 PM (

Just a detail of my previous post.

05 May 2005, 11:19 PM
i like the tattoo... love your blurring of the foreground grass too... i have a question about his left hand, is he casting something or pointing? overall, looks great dude:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 11:48 PM
No critzs here bro :cry: The shaman's outfit is great and the tattoo is awesome :thumbsup:
Love the clouds bro :buttrock:

Just finish it dude :bounce: Hurry, Hurry :twisted:


05 May 2005, 02:30 AM

I really like the colors that you use. The light, shadow and the wind. :thumbsup:
The felling expressed in the face of the child it's great too.

05 May 2005, 04:30 AM
realy cool effect!i almost flowed by ur wind.:bounce: :thumbsup:
anyway the hair of standing man should be more twisted.i's up to u.
will wait to see ur update.good luck,mate

05 May 2005, 10:52 AM
Amazing picture, i really love the landscape you made. great work!

05 May 2005, 02:16 PM
amazing scene, I like it, specially the clouds and ground!


05 May 2005, 02:23 PM
Lovely feeling to realy get the kid's emotion.

Job well done.....excellent!


05 May 2005, 06:30 PM
aawww that kid ,so cute ,guggy gooooooooo!! hehehe

rest is crap.

hahah kiddin

excellent work!!

05 May 2005, 06:35 PM
loving it!nothing to crit.. really such a nice feeling in this... feels a bt like something i am writing, fiction book for kids, fantasy

05 May 2005, 09:37 PM
Great picture although I feel like his right eye is slipping around the side of his face...

top concept and I'm loving the depth of the image

05 May 2005, 09:41 PM
yeah, i really like youre background, and the wind and stuff. really great work!

05 May 2005, 11:38 AM
I'm very impressed! :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:10 PM
hey, that cloth on him look like a kendo-tare! :love:
keep going! looking very good!! :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 01:40 PM
Wow, such wonderful responses... you guys are great!

arkinet: Thanks... the tattoo I found a problem to get good reference, so I checked out some tribal stuff (from actual native tribes) and 'formulated' a stylized tattoo. No, the wizard isn't supposed to be throwing anything... just stretching his hand to summon the storm.

Arc80: Thanks bro! I'll try to finish this mid next week (fingers crossed)

Viviane Figueira: Thank you for your warm comments. I wanted this piece to be strong in the use of colour (since I usually only draw in monotones). Glad you like the kid!

xric7: Glad to hear the 'wind' effect is actually reading well. Yeah, his hair and that of the girls still needs to be finished (I got a feeling I'll enjoy painting that as much as I did the grass, lol)

itaioi: Thank you... I wanted the landscape to be a dominant part of the composition because 1. I've never painted a landscape before, tee hee... and 2. it is also a 'servant' to the wizard... it bends to his will. So the master (wizard) has two servants, the child who is obvious, but also the landscape.

Gus_clifton: Thanks alot!

Paul Davidson: Dude, thanks again for visiting my rag of a thread here, I'm honoured. Glad you like the kid's expression... I had a bit of a hard time trying to nail that down. :D

NOOB!: LOL, you jerk :D But seriously, thanks alot.

W!L: Thanks so much... I love that fantasy vibe. Magical worlds just beyond the reach of everyday FACINATE me! I did so much daydreaming as a kid about stories and places and creatures... C.S. Lewis' 'The Chronicles of Narnia' was such a huge influence on me as a child. I'd really love to read some of that book you're writing... please do share! :bounce:

peterpop88: Yeah, I kinda wanted to 'squish' his features a little to give him that 'unnatural' feeling... like, his long life of magic began to alter his body as well as his mind. Perhaps the eyes aren't the best feature to alter in that manner? *shrug* I'll think on it... Thanks!

Mordalles: Thanks alot!

O.Martin: Dude, so am I... LOL! This is quite the challenge for me since it's only my 2nd ever digital painting and I feel like I've learned so much from everyone's input. I actually feel like I'm getting better... slowly, but surely. This CGTalk community rocks! :applause:

dunkelgold: Hey, good eye! I actually used that as my reference (I didn't want his costume to be too tribal, so I tried to sneak in some asian influence). Also, I just LOVE kendo! :D I've never tried it (I practise another martial art) but I just love watching those folks... great history and culture behind that art too!

Thanks again folks for the awesome feedback. I'm gonna go enjoy the dreary, rainy weather which is my weekend with my wife and I'll get back to painting early in the week. Have fun, guys...


05 May 2005, 08:29 PM
Hi man! Just stopping by to tell u ur piece is looking fantastic and better and better everytime I pop in this thread. I specially love the background but all others follow that :) great image!

05 May 2005, 08:58 PM
To be honest, this picture is one of my favourite.

05 May 2005, 05:32 PM
M Grant Hillier has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Coloring WIP: WIP detail (

Just a detail of my previous post.

oh danm, thats so freakin awesome. sorry for the little timedelay, had a crash last week aand had to rework 3 days. crap. lol. so was a bit busy.
Love how things come together, the shaman really has some japanese old master attitude. the girl behind him looks so sweet and vulverable.
your works on the light make it a great athmosphere, and the poses worrk so great together.
i love how she obviously trusts him and searches his protection, and him, so strong, so proud, so mighty. exceptional cool character developement, and wonderfull painting that really is so much alive. i can feel that storm. blown away. keep on rocking mate!

05 May 2005, 05:56 PM
I like the composition of your picture and the good feeling of relation between your character. Congratulations.:)

05 May 2005, 06:03 PM
Very emotive! The piece has a lot of motion, I can feel the wind blowing. Awesome!

05 May 2005, 08:24 AM
Excellent !! That's all :bounce::bounce:


05 May 2005, 08:28 AM
very very nice, love the work you've done on the girl, can really feel the emotion, great stuff :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 10:33 PM
I agree to flyingP

the character poses are very convincing especially the girls expression.
I very much like the use of colors > the contrast between the warm colors
of the ground and the cooler ones of the sky

The only thing I would mention is the current arrangement of the content within
the image because the right image side looks a bit empty compared to the left

But I´m sure you´re following a special intention with that composition.

good luck on the finishing line


05 May 2005, 07:58 AM
Nice stuff dude, think you have your own style going here.
good luck with ur pic.:wavey:

05 May 2005, 09:37 AM
A very good image...very expressiv..good work!:thumbsup: ..the final one??

05 May 2005, 11:35 AM
Nice job :thumbsup: the amount of detail is very cool...

05 May 2005, 12:10 PM
Looking good, loads of movement and that sky is really well done.

05 May 2005, 02:25 PM
Looking great! The wind is really tangible. :thumbsup:

Something's bothering me about the colour. I'm not very good at critiques, but it kind of feels a bit compartmentalised - like it's not quite meshing as a whole. Maybe if you add a touch of blue into the landscape it might help.

Just a thought... :)

05 May 2005, 12:12 AM (

Started putting some final touches on this piece when I started playing with the placement of the characters (sigh, why do I do things like this to myself?LOL)

I think I prefer the bottom one, there's more emphasis on the characters. Any thoughts?

Anyhoo I've detailed his 'skirt' a bit more, adjusted some colours (warmer skin tone & added a blue wash over the bg hill) tweaked the hair a little and refined some grassy areas.

Hey, I was freakin' cause I thought this weekend was the deadline... but it's not until the 18th! Yay, now I can go sea kayaking on Saturday!

Thanks again for everyone who took the time to comment on my work and encourage me... lots of great crits. MUCHLY apprecitated.


05 May 2005, 12:26 AM
Wow, turned out real nicely this one Mr. Junkie, or can I call you art?:wavey:

I must be tired, I just typed a completely bullshit message for you. So you might not wanna take this seriously. I think that either the grass should come down and then the characters stay on the left, and you could spread some grass in front.

Or indeed leave them on the right and put som extra leaves closer to camera and with a good motion blur like the others, but they're closer and way bigger. Maybe also with those bokeh spikes. You know like a build up of high energy light, making a bright spikey area on a brighter surface even when blurred like this.

:thumbsup:Damn nice!

05 May 2005, 12:36 AM
It's looking really nice, artjunkie. I have to say, I really think the bottom one with the characters on the right is a much stronger layout. I agree with you that it emphasizes the characters more, and isn't that the point of the piece. It also ties the wizard more closely to the storm he's whipping up. And there's even some little serindipidous things, like the dark thin swirl of cloud at the top whipping around to enclose him... It's just a little thing but compositionally it's very nice. So it's kismet: It was fated that you were supposed to end up with this new composition! :-)

Good luck with the final touches, but it looks like you're pretty much there...!


05 May 2005, 01:17 AM
ah nice composition change artjunkie... this is much better .... as walrus said it ties him more to the storm and it is very good for the movement as the now empry space on the left draws the storm more to the left ...

gj man :D :D

05 May 2005, 01:17 AM
hi artj..:)
both of urs are interesting comp.:thumbsup: :buttrock:
if u go for upper one.i think the near land and far landscape are too similar'n it?personally i think that they should be more u should make the mountain on the right more powerful and frightening.maybe use the cluad's shadow cover on it or make more contrast of lighting or add or chagee some will make viewer feel that some thing big bad crawling to ur main characters.:p

for the lower one.the farest sky at the left need some things special to make imagination for the unseen comming from the right(out of the frame).maybe u can add some huge things(that can see from faraway) twirling in the storm but not too outstanding!
or u can re-design the claud to another savage form.:twisted:

whatever u choose is good for me.goodluck mate.:)

05 May 2005, 02:44 AM
The upper one bro. It emphasize more of the storm coming and the focal point is much stronger read. You also don't loose that nice lighting you have on your grass and that mysteriousness that your both characters have.

The one below, you have that foreground grass distracting you from going to the characters. If you also cut that page in half, you'll see that they are so symethrical in terms of detials, positive and negative space, and overall shape.

So my vote, upper one. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
cheers bro

05 May 2005, 05:46 AM
Grant, awesome composition, the clouds are great. I prefer the top one but we see the girl more on the bottom and it would be sad to loose that amazing work you did on her expression, maybe in between the two would be nice, maybe if you add up a bit of leafs flying in the empty space. Really nice composition you did love the colors.

05 May 2005, 06:46 AM
This is going well, artjunkie. This new character position might work better. Good luck dude!

05 May 2005, 06:55 AM
if u go for upper one.i think the near land and far landscape are too similar'n it?personally i think that they should be more u should make the mountain on the right more powerful and frightening.maybe use the cluad's shadow cover on it or make more contrast of lighting or add or chagee some will make viewer feel that some thing big bad crawling to ur main characters.:p

I was sort of thinking similar thoughts with some of that, maybe some just a slight colour variation on the grass in the front would be enough, or perhaps the mid ground would add a bit more depth IMO. Otherwise to be honest I think I prefer the top composition :)

nice piece all the same :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 01:44 PM
well, well ,well look who desided to finally update ;)

In all seriousness Grant, both compositions are good, I'm still leaning towards the upper one only because you get more of a feeling that the coming storm is really coming from the shaman... but I like the slight scaling of the characters. Perhaps move them not so far over and keep the scaling 'cuz we can see all the neat details you've done to the skirt and the expression on the girls face.

see ya at work.


05 May 2005, 02:55 PM
i think you should go with the upper one. in my opinion i doesn't look good when you have characters looking right and and at the seme time you cut the scene from that side. now you have empty space behind them. only some grass. so it's better to have more landscape in the direction they are looking. i think that the viewer will look at the charcters and then follow their eyesight. if you want the shaman closer to the storm, don't move him, bring the storm closer to him.
sorry for bad English. i hope i made myself clear.
and this is a very nice image. good luck to you!

05 May 2005, 08:55 PM
Don´t know if I told you before, but if I forgot..... your pic rox!

I would go for the top one, If you follow the rules you should have space/air on the side your character is looking at, but rules are ofcourse there to break :) , but here I realy would go for the old one -
Best of wishes what ever you choose.:buttrock:

05 May 2005, 10:12 PM
Wow... thanks for your input people. Lot's of food for thought.

Now that I've read everyone's opinion (and had a day's break from looking at this damn painting, lol) I think I was wrong to second guess myself. I liked my composition at the start and really shouldn't have begun playing with it AT THE END of the challenge. So, to agree with most of you, I will retain the original composition... and take some of your suggestions when I next update this piece (this weekend?).

Thanks again to everyone for helping me out on this one... I feel like I'm learning sooooo much (and still have so much to learn :D )


05 May 2005, 08:08 AM
only my opinion i prefer the first composition because The investment of the characters in the first one gives a bigger idea of width of the BG, the fact of moving them on the middle, reduit the greatness of the BG. In more I think that the herb placed in front of person is more, ....beautiful, it is everything, the first image is better consisted, to my opinion, and makes her more beautiful, stronger

05 May 2005, 10:28 PM
Upper one ! Upper one !
And there is still a great picture :bounce:

Good luck Grant


05 May 2005, 01:17 PM
I prefer the bottom version as well. MUch more focus on the characters and with that kind of composition more dinamyc as well. And yea... I also thought that the deadline is a week ago, so its a good think to mistake sometimes :D good luck! A very good entry!

05 May 2005, 07:40 PM
i always cheer keep it up,buddy.:bounce: :buttrock:

05 May 2005, 10:03 PM
upper one... & pls stop messing around w/ that wacom ok? :D hurry, hurry!!!

05 May 2005, 11:22 PM
upper one! upper one! :bounce:

i think it´s better because it looks more "dangerous" (<-- i think i have to polish my english word pool a little.. :rolleyes:) and the shaman looks more "storm-causing"

maybe in between the two would be nice

and marcheen has a point here:

in my opinion i doesn't look good when you have characters looking right and and at the seme time you cut the scene from that side. now you have empty space behind them. only some grass. so it's better to have more landscape in the direction they are looking. i think that the viewer will look at the charcters and then follow their eyesight.

but anyway.. you are doing a great job and you´ll choose the right version that suits you best.. (the characters look really great, so you can also choose the bottom one..)

now that was a helpful comment, wasn´t it? aaarrggll! :)

good luck with the final strokes!

*waiting for updates* hurry!

05 May 2005, 11:41 PM
I can't remember if I commented on this before - I know I looked at it...

Anyway - what I was thinking was maybe positioning the characters like that makes the area behind feel a bit redundant.

Maybe :D

Edit - I think maybe this post is also a bit redundant... sorry - I don't really have time to read other's comments now! (busy busy)

05 May 2005, 11:27 AM (

This is pretty much it folks. Not had the time I wanted these last few days to polish up some of the details, but hey... I've learned sooooooo much from this challenge! Thanks alot folks for the crits and encouragement.

I'll post some close ups just before I upload my final image.

05 May 2005, 11:28 AM (

just a couple details... more to follow.

05 May 2005, 11:30 AM (

a few more details. my next post will be the final image! Yay!

05 May 2005, 11:57 AM
hey that's neat!


05 May 2005, 06:48 PM
ur detail is realy great!!
can't wait for final.:bounce: :bounce: :thumbsup: :buttrock:

05 May 2005, 07:12 PM
yes man! this one kicks asses :bounce: and now that u showed us details. im impressed. good luck man!

05 May 2005, 07:22 PM (


Thanks everyone for helping through this one. Wa-hoo, digital painting #2 under my belt! Yay! I promise I won't wait till the next challenge to do painting #3 (gotta try to get better before the next challenge! Too much damn talent to compete against, LOL)

The story behind this piece:
The wizard (or shaman) takes only one child as a learner. The first several years, this student is little more than a servant to the master, but in later years will be taught simple spells and charms. It is at this point our master demonstrates to the servant the potential power of such magic. He does this by conjuring a storm. The girl cowers in awe, ironically fearing the approaching storm instead of the one who summons it. In this instant, both the girl and the weather are servants to this master.

Good luck to everyone. It's been fun.


05 May 2005, 07:46 PM
Congratulations on a great piece.

Good luck


05 May 2005, 08:24 PM
Yeah bro, you finished it. AWESOME and congratulations on a kick arse job :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

It's been fun watching your progress.

Goodluck and see you around the community.


05 May 2005, 02:20 AM

CONGRATULATIONS to you! It's a wondeful piece you got there. Like me, I am just starting with this digial painting thing. My entry is my first ever digital painting. Yes it's true that there are lots of very good talents to compete with but it's the joy of participating, doing your piece, and seeing others develop is the most rewarding experience in joining this contest.

I hope to see more of your work here at cgtalk and participate in the next challenges.

Agian, great painting!:scream:

05 May 2005, 05:32 AM
congratulation!!:bounce: :thumbsup: :applause: :buttrock: :wip: :bowdown: :wavey:
great work so far, u comp and character a lot.
best luck in contest and thanx for ur support during this challenge.

05 May 2005, 02:37 PM
Wow man! really good one. Really emotive, and it's got some nice colours there. You must have been poractising for some time before getting digital! Awesome.:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM
Hey arty! I love the background, alot. Its cool, looks like a combination of sand and grass. Very awesome! Best of luck man!

05 May 2005, 03:05 PM
u know i luv this piece man! good luck!

05 May 2005, 05:49 PM
great pic, the background is really nice. Good work and good luck for the end

05 May 2005, 11:04 PM
I Love How You Leave What There Pointing At As The Unknown Well Done

05 May 2005, 11:07 PM
only your second digital painting? wow, i guess you learn quickly. nice work. you've used the lighting and colours to really express the mood.

05 May 2005, 12:37 AM
nice artwork!:thumbsup: > Good luck*Grant

05 May 2005, 12:41 AM
wonderfull work my friend! congrats and best of luck, your final entry ROX!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 06:15 AM
Congratulations!! Looks beautiful and nice colors!
Best Luck!:eek: :applause:

05 May 2005, 10:18 AM
Wow, great ending! Sperb dude! Good luck man! :applause:

05 May 2005, 11:24 AM
Great work mate... good luck to you. and for now i have to run to school.

05 May 2005, 01:16 PM
I love the expression on the little girl Grant! Good stuff, lots of emotion! And this is only your second digital? Excellent.. :)

05 May 2005, 01:46 PM
i too must gt better for the next challenge/.... juts aint got the time! Well done on an excellent piece... really hope you do well on judgement day!

05 May 2005, 06:12 PM

really great mood you caught in your painting :thumbsup: I especially like the colors you have choosen to use :)

05 May 2005, 09:43 AM
congrats on the end piece. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

06 June 2005, 05:38 AM
hi mate,:D
congrats on our best we did.:beer:
r u ready for the next challenge?

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