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03 March 2005, 03:20 PM
Fotis Tsantilas has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Texturing: texuring persephone (

started the texturing. There are some more details to add.I hope u like it so far.I used a photo of my girlfriend as a reference and for the texture.Next will be feet and hands.

03 March 2005, 05:21 PM
Hi all, i chose for my subject a part of greek mythology. It’s the story of Hades and Persephone.

Hades is one of the six Olympians. He and his brothers divided creation into thirds and each took a portion for their own. Hades chose, as his dominion, The Underworld.
When mortals kneel before the cold hearted Hades, he metes out somber justice and no one, once there, can ever leave his domain.

Hades abducted Persephone the daughter of Demeter (earth goddess who blesses all phases of the harvest) and force her to be his wife.

Demeter raged ,cursed the land and no seeds grew and all fields remained empty unless she get her daughter back. Zeus and the other immortals were worried that this would be the end of mortal life on earth .

Zeus forced Hades to return Pesrephone to the world of light but he tricked her by giving her a forbidden fruit that made her return to the UnderWold for one third of every year. Each time Persephone returns to Hades, Demeter hardens her heart and the earth is wracked with bitter cold and harsh winds .

This story actually explains in mythology the existence of winter.

I ll try and make Persephone under the submission of Hades and his servants, captive in the Underworld.Hope you like it

Thanks for viewing and best luck to all.

Have fun. :)

03 March 2005, 05:29 PM
Dude, that's one of my all-time favorite myths. I wish you the best of luck!

03 March 2005, 05:55 PM
good to see the old myths coming into fruition into 3d. good luck, may zeus be with you. :wise:

03 March 2005, 09:47 PM
i ve started modelling the servant but its not finished yet.I also must finish the sketch hopefully tomorow.
i started the model in zbrush and then chopped each part and painted with topology brush.
Any comments are welcome
This is my first challenge here and i m having great fun.:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 10:18 PM
good start to the modelling...

to me, the shoulders don't look right, they should be moving in a downward slant.. I'm not sure how to explain it ;(

keep it up, your character shows alot of promise, the head is very cool

03 March 2005, 10:22 PM
to me, the shoulders don't look right, they should be moving in a downward slant.. I'm not sure how to explain it ;(
ok ,got it:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 10:55 PM
nice start fotis..
i would tweak the hands a bit although i dont know if they'll be visible or not..
epsecially in the part of the finger and palm...

i'd use ctrl+drag in silo for that ...

03 March 2005, 10:55 PM
good to see another greek silo user ;)

have fun mate..

03 March 2005, 12:10 AM
This method (Z-Brush+Silo) seems to be very interesting...:)
Good luck man!:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 12:30 AM
This contest is infected with ZBrush :twisted: ...Trust me I say that with adoration and curiosity. Looking forward to seeing how all these ZBrush entries turn out.

So far so good though, cant wait to see how it all turns out. Good Luck!

03 March 2005, 12:39 AM
Hey ..good to see u in this Mr Micro26 ...

I agree with Versiden about shoulders (Prepei na kateboun kai na erthoun ligo mpros)
Biceps need some definition and a little better placement ..BUT for sure this is a very promising character..

Have fun man..u surely gonna get addicted...:bounce:

03 March 2005, 08:14 PM
Helloooooooooooooo Foti :)
Congratulation for your entry :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Nice work man
:bounce: Good luck :bounce:

03 March 2005, 12:37 AM
hey micro
best of luck man
well is the servant a human character or a monster?

Cant really say anything about the shoulders, a side view whould help
other that, the fingers look a bit too much spread or something
i mean he has some big hands bbut small fingers.
I whould prefer a skiny servant but thats just my taste.:D

03 March 2005, 01:25 PM
thanks all for your comments,
you re right i ll correct those areas hand/arms etc
as soon as i can and post that sketch of mine.:scream:

Sun: you re one of my favoutite arstists.:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 05:48 PM
and another model,
i decided to make the throne of Hades made of skulls and bones:scream:

03 March 2005, 07:35 PM
hey nice modleing there. But i dont have much of an idea of what u have in mind for the final scene... so can we please c soem of ur concept drawings?.... btw, good luck with the challange :thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 08:21 PM
Interesting design. I will be looking forward to more from you. My only critique is in the shoulders and chest area. It looks slightly strange. Any way, Good luck to you.

03 March 2005, 09:10 PM
Hi Mr Micro26, I can tell you're really gonna have some fun with all this...I like the style already;)
Good luck

03 March 2005, 11:21 PM
good luck! ~Mr Micro26:)
i like your Zbrush model!! go on man!:thumbsup:
i`m looking forward to see your next step!

03 March 2005, 01:20 AM (

this is the concept sketch of my theme.

03 March 2005, 01:38 AM (

it is still wip, and needs tweaking

03 March 2005, 01:42 AM (

Throne is build of bones and skulls.
thanks for viewing.

03 March 2005, 01:45 AM
I just uploaded the images on the cgtalk server

Thanks all for the kind words.:love:
have fun:scream:

03 March 2005, 04:18 AM
:buttrock: Nice skull!! No crits abt that, but for the guy, i would say its the neck and the collar bone area that might seem to need some tweaking. Great job and good luck dude! :D

03 March 2005, 11:47 PM (

still trying to define the overal look.
i ve added some details like the lion statue and bones

03 March 2005, 11:51 PM (

a closeup to the lion statue

04 April 2005, 02:56 AM
Beautiful details of the throne.Good luck!

04 April 2005, 07:39 AM
wow the throne is amazing , keep it up :)

04 April 2005, 08:14 AM
Hi there...

Nice work man and amazing modeling...
I like it...

Keep Walking...:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:15 PM (

the hand model, i plan to add more details in texturing.I havent figured out how hades is going to look like but i m working on it and i ll sent updates

04 April 2005, 01:17 PM
any c&c are welcome:)

04 April 2005, 04:26 PM
the greek mythology surely rulz this challenge .
the [i]Hades is also popular, here ( is another thread by =BlackNull=. You might want to check it out, because he's also doing the Hades character.

04 April 2005, 04:41 PM
I love your modeling and your ideia!
your progress is so impressive..
I think you can review the skull's modeling..
It looks strange for me..
but if it is intentional, ok..
I'm watching you!

04 April 2005, 05:51 PM
Nice modelling! The pose of the character is really aggressive, looks good!

04 April 2005, 06:43 PM
Awsome modelling man,
Really enjoy these updates.:)

04 April 2005, 07:02 PM
i think the servant hands needs some work, but great throne:thumbsup: :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 07:18 PM
Nice modeling dude. Keep on goiing

04 April 2005, 07:44 PM (


04 April 2005, 07:54 PM
crapple : thanks dude

deadman inc: i think everything needs more work:D

gui_mends: thanks

Miezis: yeah i saw BlackNull Hades and loved it:thumbsup:
when i saw the m&s title was the first thing that poped in my head.

SUN: u rock:buttrock:
tha lion idea came from your avatar:bounce:

jarvetu: thanks man

04 April 2005, 01:48 AM
hey buddy, we chose the same theme!! hahaha, I just found out, best of luck for your hades scene and hopefully we will both bring something different. I see yours is coming along quite well and that throne is going to be sweet! take care

04 April 2005, 03:38 PM (

tweaked the torso and added some props, any comments are welcome.

04 April 2005, 04:39 PM
hey buddy, we chose the same theme!! hahaha, I just found out, best of luck for your hades scene and hopefully we will both bring something different. I see yours is coming along quite well and that throne is going to be sweet! take care

04 April 2005, 04:40 PM
hey buddy, we chose the same theme!! hahaha, I just found out, best of luck for your hades scene and hopefully we will both bring something different. I see yours is coming along quite well and that throne is going to be sweet! take care

i m a big fan of your modeling skills BlackNull:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:07 PM
Hey there, awesome work. You are doing a great job on the muscle definition, all the details look great. Also wonderful work on the environmental details, Hades' throne looks very cool, gotta love the little lion statues. :applause:


04 April 2005, 12:48 PM
Cool hardcore-bodypiercing!
the belt looks very ... hm... mediterrenian :)

Love the throne!

04 April 2005, 05:25 PM (

just started the difficult stuff:clothes
I roughly posed it to adjust the clothes.
Any comments are welcome,thanks for viewing

04 April 2005, 05:28 PM
the head is not the finnal just doing tests:)

mikkislehtola: thanks

mmbenya: thanks dude i ll do my best:scream:

04 April 2005, 11:17 AM
good stuff man
i especially like the clothing
master of disaster

04 April 2005, 02:52 PM
zukezuko: thanks friend, i try to achive a mam-ra look to this guy.
i sculpted the dresslike cloth and displaced it.:buttrock:

04 April 2005, 09:03 PM (

masters head with z displace map extracted.
Hope u like it.

04 April 2005, 09:18 PM
Hi's all coming along real well....I like the depth and character you have going here,the looks and style are coming together very nicely.....I am using Zbrush for the first sure is a nice compliment to our other apps.......Keep coming with the nice updates,looking very nice..:arteest:

04 April 2005, 10:28 PM

Good start to modelling..The pose is meaningfull:).

04 April 2005, 10:38 PM
Virtuoso: i m watching u too :thumbsup:
Gáll Attila: thanks mate:)

04 April 2005, 11:27 PM (

added some hair and teeth to the master character.There so much to do and so little time.

Zlatan B.
04 April 2005, 05:04 AM
Unbelievable what a difference ZBrush makes. Great work. I love your character design.:thumbsup:

my stuff: (


04 April 2005, 08:41 AM
Zlatan B.: thanks man.:)

04 April 2005, 08:44 AM
Wildness to the maximus......I lke it.fierce and very un-tame.....Doing a very nice job Fotis.....Keep it coming as you are.......:arteest:

04 April 2005, 03:41 PM (

i pose the base body and now needs hands and feet, oh i ll add more details to the wrist and ankle.
Any comments are welcomed and thanks for viewing.

04 April 2005, 04:18 PM
owe! very nice modelling! is it box modelling?or patch modelling?ur using Max?

keep it up coming!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:50 PM
Madlight_1988 thanks

its box modelled in xsi and sculped in zbrush

04 April 2005, 05:17 PM
Fotis , maaaaan...this is coming so great :bounce::bounce:...can't wait to see her finished :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:18 PM
thanks dim u re my favourite:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:26 PM
Beautifull modelling!
Looking forward to seeing her with one of those classic Greek profiles.

04 April 2005, 05:31 PM
I like lightning and rendering.. nice :)

04 April 2005, 08:18 PM
what a great progress. very nice modeling :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:52 AM
hey there man.. sorry i missed this thread earlier this is fantastic.. the only crit i would give you is to make her stomach a little thinner just to give her a womans curves.. because a man from his ribs to his hips is pretty straight but a woman has alot more curves then a man has so just thin her stomach from her side a little just to give her more of a feminine look... other then that your flying right through and this is lookg Fantastic!!! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:51 PM
persephone looks great man
and masters hair give him this mythic/magic look

great stuff

what bugs me is the girl breasts
i quess its the hi-tech looking bra
or is it leather (i mean will be, after texturing it) ?

04 April 2005, 12:35 AM (

I ve almost finished the hand model, i ll try and throw that in xsi :) and see how it goes.Any commments are welcome

04 April 2005, 01:06 AM
nice skin shader!:thumbsup: nice updates...! waiting your another wip!:)

04 April 2005, 01:12 AM
Kanga,Maxko,smaddl,goktug: thanks dudes

Neeno: i ll fix those areas and i ll post more updates man:thumbsup: thanks for our comments:bounce:

zukezuko: nope thats definitly leather :buttrock: thanks for stopping by:bounce:

04 April 2005, 01:22 AM
Great modeling, is there steps between the sphere model and finals?

04 April 2005, 03:53 AM
Very nice.. why not give a render from a 3/4 view to better show your model, can't really get a cool view of your hand..

04 April 2005, 08:06 AM
Hi Fotis...... Zphere magic.....;) ......I am about to do the same with my servants...Brutes Rudes......a nice z-sphere session.....I think the hands came out very nice......very nice details and in-depth extras......My only suggestion.....and it's a small one.....Is that the hand or palm a tiny bit too's real close,but to me it seems a little too long.....Could be me,but thats my thought on it.......other than that it's looking excellent.....not very good,but excellent......keep up the nice work here......I'll be watching for more....:arteest:

04 April 2005, 09:42 AM
Mr MICRO,,dude,,I just replyed one guy,,,he is using Z brush to,,,how do you makeit like this,,,Im trying with Z but there is lot of unancwered questions to be ancwered.
I have bad net conection so I can't go commenting all the good works as I want,,but I think I'l stick to this one amongst few others to see where it is going.

04 April 2005, 09:54 AM
damn nice modelling, now i wanne have z-brush as well...:sad:

04 April 2005, 09:57 AM (

The steps are: first started out from zsphere then sculpted in low res and exported to xsi for topology changes.Then back to zbrush for more sculpting and refinement.I think it needs some more tweaking and i ll update as soon as possible.
thanks dor viewing.

04 April 2005, 10:04 AM
d-tox: u do that :)

A I R: anything u wantna ask fire away:bounce:

Virtuoso: cant wait to see your image man :thumbsup: I ll try and fix it u are right its not finished
thanks man:thumbsup:

RealCapri: thanks man:bounce:

arlutik: hope i helpept with steps thank u :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:04 AM
Nice work with ZBrush, but palm i think is a little bit "fat" :).

04 April 2005, 11:38 AM

Great modeling and texturing :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Keep going :) GO go go


04 April 2005, 08:58 AM

good ........waiting for more WIP

04 April 2005, 01:45 PM (

started the head , basic box modelling.Now i ll get to the ears and then some touch ups

04 April 2005, 01:49 PM (

tweaking to get a better look on her and added a few props.Also feet and hands added.
thanks for viewing

04 April 2005, 04:14 PM
There is a lot of great work going on here, the pose looks excellent, very well done! :thumbsup:


04 April 2005, 07:56 PM
Really nice stuffs. Also a promising female body! Maybe thre are some proportional problems with arm's lenght and finger lenght on the other update, but it's just my personal taste and i don't wanna disturb you with that. So keep up your quality work! :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 08:15 PM
Great modelling :thumbsup: . Awesome hand too.

Keep up good work.

04 April 2005, 11:11 PM
:wise: great theme, you start with a great promising model

the best luck to yoyu
sorry my bad english

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Modeling: Persephones body wip (

tweaking to get a better look on her and added a few props.Also feet and hands added.
thanks for viewing[/QUOTE]

04 April 2005, 11:16 PM (

finshed the head and next im gonna attach it to the rest..
Hope i ll make it on time cause theres so much to be done.
Anyway, hope u like it :)

04 April 2005, 11:22 PM
Abishai_: thanks man:)

Tremoside: i ll tweak those as much as possible, thank u:)

mmbenya, manikantkujur: thanks:thumbsup:

SUN: glad u like it:bounce:

Maxko: fixing that too

04 April 2005, 11:43 PM
you got loads of great models going on mate, like em all, hope you got time to finish them.
see you later and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:25 AM
Lovely concept and detailing on the throne (great!), Persephones pose, and the servants face (well realised tessellation from the mid-nose to the well-formed lips) :thumbsup:

Looks also like another ZB afficionado here also - nice shader (TriShader?) on the hand model.....

Be checking in later, dude, when I next need a little stroll down the road:)


04 April 2005, 08:15 PM
People like yourself make me feel just so lazy on my updates!!

Your entry has come a long way from your first posts up!
You have put alot of care and detail into each and every element of it. I am loving the amount of work it is displaying in the process.

Very little to really comment on. I would preffer to just see how things are going to evolve


04 April 2005, 03:15 PM (

started the texturing. There are some more details to add.I hope u like it so far.I used a photo of my girlfriend as a reference and for the texture.Next will be feet and hands.

04 April 2005, 03:20 PM
BlackDidThis: thanks man i wish i had more time for all this, but i ve go so much to do.:scream:

Atwooki: thank u :bounce:

alex.h. : i hope so too:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:52 PM
Wow but this one is very good!! Great work here Fotis!!
Great modeling and textures!
Keep it up mate!

04 April 2005, 06:38 PM
going nice`mate!:)

04 April 2005, 06:48 PM
This some realy nice nito things.I like accesories.
Wonder about the final..keep it up. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:41 PM
very nice model, great work on the details and i really like the richness of the acessaries. the character looks very natural too.

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