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03-22-2005, 01:54 PM
Gerardo Damian Barbero has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5899)

Latest Update: Final Image: Lord of the Depths
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116246873_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116246873_large.jpg)

Lord of the Depths.
Lhotar Master of the underworld, it maintains the harmony of all the alive beings of of their world.
He is taken care by their three servants, they love him and for the master they are the most valuable
treasure, they live a relationship of affection and love.


Thank you another time for the whole help and the encouragement received during this challenge.

03-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Hi smooth, again a other great 3d artist in this challenge, i wait your terrific pic:thumbsup:

03-22-2005, 02:23 PM
good luck!
I'm waiting for first skethces :)

03-22-2005, 02:50 PM
The Criminal returns... :thumbsup:
Best of luck.

03-22-2005, 03:03 PM
Hi gerado!
nice to see you here again!! can't wait for your high detail modeling from you!! have fun and good luck!

03-22-2005, 03:17 PM
Hey hey yet another big gun in the challenge! Have lots of fun, I know I will!


03-22-2005, 06:10 PM
• Hello Damian! Welcome in!:beer:

03-22-2005, 09:24 PM
Hello my friend! Great to see you here again. I can't wait to see your work!

03-26-2005, 08:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111869519_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111869519_large.jpg)

This is my idea, the master loves the servants and these to him, I try to give the feeling of contact between the creature and servants, i use this tentacles to accentuate this idea.
I have to made many changes to the shape of the master, but this is the general idea, the color is only for test.

03-26-2005, 10:52 PM

& nice to see you again... "lovely" story you got there... can`t wait to see it form in 3D

03-27-2005, 02:27 PM
theuni: hi men, tonight I am going to put some 3d modeling, good luck with your work!:thumbsup:

03-27-2005, 09:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111958904_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111958904_large.jpg)

finish the body of the girl, i start with a basic model and export to z-brush to make the details, still need to model the face.

03-27-2005, 10:21 PM
hey smooth-criminal....... nice to see u here!:) ... a very touching concept .... like the way how u shown the modeling steps and not to mention a great one!:thumbsup:

03-27-2005, 10:40 PM
i like the concept
make a good 3d out of it

03-28-2005, 12:11 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111968667_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1111968667_large.jpg)

render of the girl body.

03-28-2005, 01:24 AM
Nice model ;) ; only C&C is in regards to the butt, which looks a tad big.

03-28-2005, 03:33 AM
Great job Smooth!!!, I would love to be the center guy :thumbsup: .
I'm eager to see it done.
I'll be looking you progress ok.

My Master And Servanthttp://www.cgtalk.com/images/icons/icon13.gif

03-28-2005, 03:43 PM
ArtisticVisions: thanks, i am going to retouch this part when the character is in the final position, i am planning to made this in zbrush.:thumbsup:
Miyagi: hey thanks! yes a lucky guy!!:twisted:

03-31-2005, 12:37 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1112272630_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1112272630_large.jpg)

I have put all together to see how it looks, still needs moch work, correct some parts of the girls, proportions, the master is not going to be so human.
crit. are welcome.

04-02-2005, 01:42 PM
Hey wonderful job, you know you have interesting and beautiful style, I enjoyed your GSO, and now you are again making something interesting. Good luck to you, I'll watch your progress indeed...

04-04-2005, 03:19 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1112627971_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1112627971_large.jpg)

head of the master, still needs to add more details in z-brush, and some elements. crit. are welcome.

04-04-2005, 04:23 PM
Great modelling job and the concept is also amazing. When could we see some textured images? :bounce:


04-04-2005, 08:05 PM
hI SMOOTH, again a good work, the head of your master is very nice. The concept is good and i wait with impatient the suite of modeling:thumbsup:

04-04-2005, 09:00 PM
Hi Smooth-Criminal, from that first sketch I can tell this will be a classic image, I really enjoy the execution of the concept and your progress is amazing! keep it coming!

04-04-2005, 09:21 PM
WOW thats gonna be fantastic. I really like your modeling you got an exelent start i can't wait to see what's next keep it up :)

04-05-2005, 09:03 AM
hi smooth-criminal.... a great well modeled head!:thumbsup:....hack away at the polys:)!

04-05-2005, 10:48 AM
Thats great..Like in the fifth element!
I like this kind of style..Im waiting for your new updates..

04-05-2005, 11:27 AM
Great modelling! i want zbruuuuushshhhhhh,i dont know it yet!and is ee every one is using this incredible tool,so that im thirsty too!:sad: :thumbsup:

good luck mate,am lookin forwrd to seein more!

04-05-2005, 01:00 PM
robillo,MDN67,DaddyMack,Cygnus_X,Crying Horn,yunisirees,Gáll Attila,Madlight_1988:
Thanks for the opinions!!, I still fighting with the body of the master, but I finish the concept for the form of the body and the arms, i hope to put some soon! is only 2 months challlenge and i have to hurry! i have only 2 hours per day to work in this, but i do my best. I plan to texturing wen all the modeling is finished ( sorry bad english).:thumbsup:

04-05-2005, 02:07 PM
Nice work so far. So the Master is female? From the sketch I thought it was male. But anyhow solid modeling job on the head. Watch the female torso though. The human spine has an S like shape and the rib cage generally tips upward while the pelvic bone tips downward. Check it out and keep up the good work.

04-05-2005, 02:22 PM
Brent_3D: thanks for the help, i am not good in this type of things, the master is male, and the body is not going to be like the sketch. cheers!:)

04-05-2005, 03:39 PM
really are a smooth criminal.. eheheh smooth and very good models your makin here dude.. looking great.. love the concept.. lets see more

04-05-2005, 03:46 PM
Great modeling. An other good challenger in the running. good luck man


04-05-2005, 05:10 PM
Awsome modeling so far! Her face has a lot of character and personality, and the detail in on the horns is looking preatty good. I think the little notches in the ears are a nice touch also. My only suggestion would be to make the neck a little thicker, it dosn't look like it could supprt the wieght of the horns. Then again, it would look a lot less feminine. Anyway, keep up the good work, it looks like it's gonna be a great entry. Alexi

04-05-2005, 05:11 PM
looking sweet mate, cant wait to see more

04-11-2005, 01:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1113226058_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1113226058_large.jpg)

adding details to the tentacles, still need more details and correction in the position, I am not very happy with shoulders of the master, I will modify them in the future, and still need much work crit. are very welcome.

04-11-2005, 02:20 PM
Beautiful work.I think one of the few challenger's scence,showing the emotional connection between Master and Servants.And realy this is the point of the challenge.A lot of great modelers have forgotten this.

I am looking forward for more updates

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04-11-2005, 03:05 PM
Very good posing and impressive modeling. Hope the render will suit.

04-11-2005, 03:46 PM
cellent job of the head, I like how you've done the ears. Haven't seen that before. Good luck with it.

04-11-2005, 05:52 PM
wow ..great work ..I like this hentai style ..
I dont like just a thing : he has a sweet expression!
keep it up

04-11-2005, 06:01 PM
Wow, again a big modeling of smooth. I wait the suite, background and texture, i hope you make a great pic like your grand space:thumbsup:

04-11-2005, 06:02 PM
excuse me,.. alittle crit the legs of the xoman in the center is too big

04-11-2005, 07:49 PM
Hey nice work so far. I like the way it is sort of tender and creepy at the same time. Cheers

04-11-2005, 07:54 PM
I really like this style. My eyes is on this thread :) continue

04-11-2005, 10:11 PM
what an impressive model. It is emotional 100%

You have done it in z-brush, but how did you pose them? Tell us a bit about your workflow because this is amazing!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

About the shoulders they feel out of place. Maybe too high and too squared? I guess heīs strong so he should have this muscle neck-to-shoulder a bit more visible, that way the shoulders would come down a bit. I hope this makes any sense because Iīm not very technical about anatomy.

04-11-2005, 10:57 PM
Pretty work:thumbsup:,

those tentaculos by all the parts and these bodies, remember much to a titled illustration "the Space Machine of 1980". it was a squid in the space with many women.))

Much luck.:)

MY MASTER AND SERVANT (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=229293&goto=newpost)

04-12-2005, 08:07 AM
hi smooth-criminal .. nice details on the tentacles:)...yeah the shoulder is a bit odd!..anyway excellent modeling!:thumbsup:

04-12-2005, 09:08 AM
I really really like the expressions on all the characters.. great emotion and design...

04-12-2005, 12:17 PM
S.DIMIS,authentic,riki,soapy,Maxko,pierre_bixquert,icedeyes: thanks for the support and opinions !:bounce:

niki: thanks! I try to make him less sweet!!:D

MDN67: yes donīt worry i am planing change this.:thumbsup:

bealobo: thanks! the tentacles are simple splines, with the option to make them visible in the viewport and in the render, later I transform to editable poly and export to z-brush, make the details and export again to max(the low resolution model ) and make a displacement map in zbrush and use this in max, I use this technique for all the models in the scene, the girls are rigged in max , I use skin tool for the deformations, and to pose the models.:)

yunisirees: yes i am going to correct the shoulder I donīt like it:thumbsup:

04-12-2005, 12:29 PM
Hey Gerardo, Wicked models dude :thumbsup: I like your style .....you have mastered zb then eh! good on ya mate...Looking forward to more of this one ...rock on dude...

04-12-2005, 12:36 PM
Hey mate!
the shoulders dont look that bad. Arm maybe could use a bit definition in the delts/biceps/tricepsarea. and the boneending on the backside of the handjoints caused from bending hands.
supecool composition and sweet modeling. pauldorns could look a bit more paralel to the upper arms. that would set shoulders right maybe?
Keep it up, this is an awesome piece, looking forward to your next update!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04-13-2005, 12:48 PM
Great job :thumbsup:, The master's expresion is so gentle his personality looks so good.

04-13-2005, 01:07 PM
thats smooth modeling you got there.
Cant wait to see more udpates:thumbsup:

04-13-2005, 01:45 PM
Great work man. I like concept and modeling. Maybe to reduce the size of legs of this girl/woman, I think they are too heavy. Anyway it's very good.

Great work and good luck! :thumbsup:

(sorry for my english)

04-13-2005, 03:59 PM
blackdragoncg,the1st_angel,Crying Horn,Mr Micro26,Abishai_: thanks for the crit. and words, the girls are not finished, still need to make some cloth and correct proportions,I am going to change the shoulders of the master, now are testing some texturing and fur in the tentacles, I hope to put an update soon!!:bounce:

04-13-2005, 06:17 PM
Hi. love your modelling:thumbsup: . What's the background is going to be? Be Cool.

My thread http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=224891&page=1&pp=20

04-16-2005, 01:18 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1113657495_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1113657495_large.jpg)

testing some colors and backgrouns, and painting the hair to have an idea of the final look. still needs to change many things...crit are welcome.

04-16-2005, 01:25 PM
Wow! Better and better.

04-16-2005, 01:29 PM
aaaaaaaa... GREAT!!! sh*t.. That's GREAT :)

04-16-2005, 02:08 PM
I think that girl's legs looks too fat, and the butt is too rounded, but generally looks great, great colors and composition, nice...

good luck!

04-16-2005, 02:26 PM
:eek: congrats amazing work !

04-16-2005, 02:31 PM
you are a smooth CG criminal.. very smooth approach to the textures.. as you said still needs a bit of work but the colour scheme looks really good dude.. sticking to style and looking great man.!! lets see where this goes shall we... awesome :applause:

04-16-2005, 02:38 PM
Whaoo great stuff here! congrat so far Smooth-Criminal :thumbsup:

Really nice feeling on this shot :bounce:

04-18-2005, 12:05 PM
suk-grigorij,Maxko,jddog,Neeno,collings: thanks for the comments guys!!:scream:
Crying Horn: yes, i am going to change this donīt worry.:)

04-18-2005, 12:37 PM
Wow looks like a clay model...nice subtle details :thumbsup:

04-18-2005, 12:45 PM
hi ~Smooth-Criminal ...looking so cool`mate. beautiful modelling progress. +good texturing+ good concept. i`m looking forward to see your next wip!...going nice!...good luck:)

04-20-2005, 03:13 PM
3dRaven,goktug: thanks! tonight I hope to make an upload:) !

04-20-2005, 03:15 PM
Really?? GREAT! :) I can't wait .. :)

04-20-2005, 03:18 PM
youve been stopped by...a smooth criminal [insert michael jackson wooo ooooo oooh] :eek::argh::applause:

04-20-2005, 04:39 PM
Nice work! :applause:

The concept is great. I wait to the next step with more textures and more details.

I have only a little critic, No offense!
I have problems with the left knee of the girl on the right and her left shoulder. The shape look like a bit weird. But No Offense.

I love the scene.

04-20-2005, 09:36 PM
Wow Smooth-Criminal, I haven't been here in a while and it looks like you're near done! You've really pulled together a very powerful image so far man!
Keep it up:thumbsup:

04-20-2005, 09:42 PM
That last rendering reminds me of the Arnold renderer :)

04-21-2005, 12:52 AM
Maxko,jdsb,DaddyMack,3dRaven: thanks for all!!:thumbsup: venum:thanks, is No offense, the girls are nor finished i am going to change this errors more late!:buttrock:

04-21-2005, 01:02 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114045373_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114045373_large.jpg)

light test in cepia tone, and adding the background to see the whole.

04-21-2005, 01:09 AM
great work, its a beauty. see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04-21-2005, 07:45 AM
I like the tentacle guy,,,U pulled nice job with tentacles here,,the way they swirm arround and under girls legs,nice.

04-21-2005, 08:27 AM
It's pleasure to see how do you working - from sketch to exact scene :) I like it, it really shows love and warm feelings :thumbsup:

04-21-2005, 12:12 PM
alex.h.,A I R,(o)ne:thanks!! again!! for all the comments:bounce:

04-21-2005, 12:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114086567_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114086567_large.jpg)

color version,with a little retouch, still working in some details for the master, and leving the girls for the last, i hope to finish all the modeling this weekend, crit are welcome.

04-21-2005, 02:31 PM

What kind of shading will you do on your scene. Clay, photorealistic...?

the clay look is actually is really interesting


04-21-2005, 02:38 PM
venum: I use finalrender stage-1 with 1 directional light, with a blin basic color texture and a noise in bump channel thatīs all. still need to make the textures is only a material for testing!:thumbsup:

04-21-2005, 03:05 PM
very simple way of lighting a scene yet great results.. final render always does the trick such a great renderer.. Good work dude.. this is looking as such a great piece of cg art as it unfolds.. good luck on your progress..

04-21-2005, 05:17 PM
Hi Gerardo,

really nice progress you got in here :thumbsup: Just one little thing... the hands of the master look a bit to large... I bet you wanted it so...

04-21-2005, 05:41 PM
:) smooth criminal, that's a good news.
I'm eager to see the next step with the textures. Move on...

:applause::applause::applause: triple bravos.

04-27-2005, 12:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114604084_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114604084_large.jpg)

thanks for all the words, here are an update, with new elements in the background I have to change some details, and start with the textures, I hope to finish in time,I have some few hours per day to work in this, sorry for the delays in the updates, the critics are always welcome.

04-27-2005, 05:51 PM
:thumbsup: great update.
Nice design for the light. The ambiance is warmer. I like that.
Now the light don't have any effect onto the characters.
I hope to see update soon:applause:

04-27-2005, 06:01 PM
right, but It's getting better :thumbsup:

04-27-2005, 06:52 PM
Very nice feeling in your image, the modeling looks great as usual. The one thing the background seems to light in color or something, just my opinion. Great job so far.

04-27-2005, 07:33 PM
very very nice work. although i don't like the subject, i must say it deliver a lot of feeling. realy tender work.

04-28-2005, 12:32 PM
venum,(o)ne,mmoir,smaddl: thanks for the crit., is only a fast composition, i am going to correct the light in the characters!
:thumbsup: .

04-28-2005, 07:48 PM
:thumbsup:Smooth-Criminal, I'm gonna wait your next step:twisted:

04-29-2005, 08:03 PM
This like this so far, I can't wait to see it finished.

05-01-2005, 04:09 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114963770_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1114963770_large.jpg)

thanks again for the support, this time I modified the yellow light of the bottom so that it has influence in the characters, still missing the textures, in this test, i am going to put an update soon.

05-01-2005, 05:42 PM
The master need as weel to receive light even more than the ladies.
carry on. We need to see more:twisted:

05-01-2005, 06:13 PM
Great work, WOW. :thumbsup: Everything is just perfekt! (i am jealous:) )

05-01-2005, 06:22 PM
Awesome work man! I like it:thumbsup:

05-02-2005, 02:42 AM
Lighting is coming along great I think! Everything is nicely lit up, I think what your scene lacks right now is atmosphere, that's all. Some dust or specks in the air, but this will come later. Cheers to more good work mate!

:thumbsup: :buttrock:

05-02-2005, 02:56 AM
I am quite new to this, and I have been reading through the forums, and am amazed at the big guns that are competing. I guess I just wasn't thinking about it when I signed up! This makes me very excited, and very anxious to be getting to work! I like what I see.
I look foreward to your final product- I think the composition is very good- but I am a sucker for heavy bottom compositions.
Good luck!

05-02-2005, 04:23 PM
Very warm and beautiful background, wasn't expecting something like that :thumbsup: , but you still need to corect those legs and butt to that girl in masters arms, just my opinion, good luck!

05-03-2005, 12:36 PM
venum,raid,mmaxx,keetmun,mrdpoe,Crying Horn: thanks for the copmments and crit, I am working in the changes, the only problem is time, i am going to do the best i can, thanks for all!!:thumbsup:

05-05-2005, 11:13 AM
Hi Gerardo!

Nice progress!..Your work is amazing:thumbsup: ...not much to say just keep it your way...

MyMaster&Servant (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=224272&highlight=Rogerio+Masao)

05-05-2005, 11:33 AM

Simply perfect! :bowdown: Those girl faces with that smile...also that hug is very impressive as an emotional action! Keep it up mate! :bounce:

05-14-2005, 11:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116114448_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116114448_large.jpg)

only a texture test of the tentacles, master face and armor, the tentacles are going to be diferent in the final version.

05-14-2005, 11:55 PM

hey that's look promissing:applause:

05-15-2005, 12:49 AM
venum: thanks for your comments!:thumbsup:

05-15-2005, 12:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116118396_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116118396_large.jpg)

close to final, I think this is going to be the final, still needs some little adjust, but the end time is close!! crit. are very welcome!.

05-15-2005, 01:14 AM
Hey Gerardo,
I like what you have done with the face of the master. :thumbsup: The facial expressions of the characters and the little flowers all over the ground really creates a great mood to the pic.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Good luck with this.

05-15-2005, 05:06 AM
lovely piece smooth criminal ... really came together with this color scheme .. the flowers are an incredible touch ... so much detail in those

wonderful piece :thumbsup:

05-15-2005, 02:28 PM
:thumbsup: Really original work! On the last comp, we can't read the shape, the volume. The picture look like too flatten. Maybe, there is too much ambiant light or too much light.

I like the flowers a lot.

Smooth-Criminal 3 days to go.... It's going to be good

05-15-2005, 06:03 PM
so emotional!
good work!

05-16-2005, 12:34 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116246873_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/9/5899/5899_1116246873_large.jpg)

Lord of the Depths.
Lhotar Master of the underworld, it maintains the harmony of all the alive beings of of their world.
He is taken care by their three servants, they love him and for the master they are the most valuable
treasure, they live a relationship of affection and love.


Thank you another time for the whole help and the encouragement received during this challenge.

05-16-2005, 10:24 PM
mmoir,pigwater,bealobo: thanks for the crit.!!

venum: thanks for the tip!! I hope that you like the final image.:thumbsup:

05-17-2005, 12:14 AM
:thumbsup: I could tell you a lot of things, but it's too late. I like your concept.
If I tell you It could be better, I hope You're not being offensing. I like the ambiance and the concept, the modeling is great.
Amazing work smooth.

05-17-2005, 01:14 AM
venum: is not offensing, make all the critics no problem is betther for my to improve mi concepts in the future, i know there are many things, and that they could have improved with more time, but well, this time I did not have much time for this challenge, perhaps the next. thanks for your interest, and time!!:thumbsup:

05-17-2005, 04:53 PM
Hey Smooth-Criminal, finaly you've finished it, looks very beautiful. So touching, so gentle and warm, colors are very soft and sweet to my eye... Everything looks so clean and very well crafted... good luck!

05-17-2005, 04:59 PM
thats one lucky master hehehe... great work btw... congratulations dude & good luck!!!

05-17-2005, 05:01 PM
Brilliant image, muy buena amigo, congratulations and good luck

05-17-2005, 05:19 PM
nice composition, but maybe not enough atmosphere in the scene...

Anyway, i'ts a very good modeling work ;)
Good luck man :thumbsup:

05-17-2005, 07:18 PM

interresting mood you caught there... I like the warm colors... :thumbsup: you got my vote!!!

05-19-2005, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the comments, and good luck to all!!!:thumbsup:

05-21-2005, 12:17 PM
the master is adorable!


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