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03 March 2005, 01:54 PM
Gerardo Damian Barbero has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: Lord of the Depths (

Lord of the Depths.
Lhotar Master of the underworld, it maintains the harmony of all the alive beings of of their world.
He is taken care by their three servants, they love him and for the master they are the most valuable
treasure, they live a relationship of affection and love.


Thank you another time for the whole help and the encouragement received during this challenge.

03 March 2005, 02:18 PM
Hi smooth, again a other great 3d artist in this challenge, i wait your terrific pic:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 02:23 PM
good luck!
I'm waiting for first skethces :)

03 March 2005, 02:50 PM
The Criminal returns... :thumbsup:
Best of luck.

03 March 2005, 03:03 PM
Hi gerado!
nice to see you here again!! can't wait for your high detail modeling from you!! have fun and good luck!

03 March 2005, 03:17 PM
Hey hey yet another big gun in the challenge! Have lots of fun, I know I will!


03 March 2005, 06:10 PM
• Hello Damian! Welcome in!:beer:

03 March 2005, 09:24 PM
Hello my friend! Great to see you here again. I can't wait to see your work!

03 March 2005, 08:38 PM (

This is my idea, the master loves the servants and these to him, I try to give the feeling of contact between the creature and servants, i use this tentacles to accentuate this idea.
I have to made many changes to the shape of the master, but this is the general idea, the color is only for test.

03 March 2005, 10:52 PM

& nice to see you again... "lovely" story you got there... can`t wait to see it form in 3D

03 March 2005, 02:27 PM
theuni: hi men, tonight I am going to put some 3d modeling, good luck with your work!:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 09:28 PM (

finish the body of the girl, i start with a basic model and export to z-brush to make the details, still need to model the face.

03 March 2005, 10:21 PM
hey smooth-criminal....... nice to see u here!:) ... a very touching concept .... like the way how u shown the modeling steps and not to mention a great one!:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 10:40 PM
i like the concept
make a good 3d out of it

03 March 2005, 12:11 AM (

render of the girl body.

03 March 2005, 01:24 AM
Nice model ;) ; only C&C is in regards to the butt, which looks a tad big.

03 March 2005, 03:33 AM
Great job Smooth!!!, I would love to be the center guy :thumbsup: .
I'm eager to see it done.
I'll be looking you progress ok.
My Master And Servant

03 March 2005, 03:43 PM
ArtisticVisions: thanks, i am going to retouch this part when the character is in the final position, i am planning to made this in zbrush.:thumbsup:
Miyagi: hey thanks! yes a lucky guy!!:twisted:

03 March 2005, 12:37 PM (

I have put all together to see how it looks, still needs moch work, correct some parts of the girls, proportions, the master is not going to be so human.
crit. are welcome.

04 April 2005, 01:42 PM
Hey wonderful job, you know you have interesting and beautiful style, I enjoyed your GSO, and now you are again making something interesting. Good luck to you, I'll watch your progress indeed...

04 April 2005, 03:19 PM (

head of the master, still needs to add more details in z-brush, and some elements. crit. are welcome.

04 April 2005, 04:23 PM
Great modelling job and the concept is also amazing. When could we see some textured images? :bounce:


04 April 2005, 08:05 PM
hI SMOOTH, again a good work, the head of your master is very nice. The concept is good and i wait with impatient the suite of modeling:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:00 PM
Hi Smooth-Criminal, from that first sketch I can tell this will be a classic image, I really enjoy the execution of the concept and your progress is amazing! keep it coming!

04 April 2005, 09:21 PM
WOW thats gonna be fantastic. I really like your modeling you got an exelent start i can't wait to see what's next keep it up :)

04 April 2005, 09:03 AM
hi smooth-criminal.... a great well modeled head!:thumbsup:....hack away at the polys:)!

04 April 2005, 10:48 AM
Thats great..Like in the fifth element!
I like this kind of style..Im waiting for your new updates..

04 April 2005, 11:27 AM
Great modelling! i want zbruuuuushshhhhhh,i dont know it yet!and is ee every one is using this incredible tool,so that im thirsty too!:sad: :thumbsup:

good luck mate,am lookin forwrd to seein more!

04 April 2005, 01:00 PM
robillo,MDN67,DaddyMack,Cygnus_X,Crying Horn,yunisirees,Gáll Attila,Madlight_1988:
Thanks for the opinions!!, I still fighting with the body of the master, but I finish the concept for the form of the body and the arms, i hope to put some soon! is only 2 months challlenge and i have to hurry! i have only 2 hours per day to work in this, but i do my best. I plan to texturing wen all the modeling is finished ( sorry bad english).:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:07 PM
Nice work so far. So the Master is female? From the sketch I thought it was male. But anyhow solid modeling job on the head. Watch the female torso though. The human spine has an S like shape and the rib cage generally tips upward while the pelvic bone tips downward. Check it out and keep up the good work.

04 April 2005, 02:22 PM
Brent_3D: thanks for the help, i am not good in this type of things, the master is male, and the body is not going to be like the sketch. cheers!:)

04 April 2005, 03:39 PM
really are a smooth criminal.. eheheh smooth and very good models your makin here dude.. looking great.. love the concept.. lets see more

04 April 2005, 03:46 PM
Great modeling. An other good challenger in the running. good luck man

04 April 2005, 05:10 PM
Awsome modeling so far! Her face has a lot of character and personality, and the detail in on the horns is looking preatty good. I think the little notches in the ears are a nice touch also. My only suggestion would be to make the neck a little thicker, it dosn't look like it could supprt the wieght of the horns. Then again, it would look a lot less feminine. Anyway, keep up the good work, it looks like it's gonna be a great entry. Alexi

04 April 2005, 05:11 PM
looking sweet mate, cant wait to see more

04 April 2005, 01:27 PM (

adding details to the tentacles, still need more details and correction in the position, I am not very happy with shoulders of the master, I will modify them in the future, and still need much work crit. are very welcome.

04 April 2005, 02:20 PM
Beautiful work.I think one of the few challenger's scence,showing the emotional connection between Master and Servants.And realy this is the point of the challenge.A lot of great modelers have forgotten this.

I am looking forward for more updates

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:05 PM
Very good posing and impressive modeling. Hope the render will suit.

04 April 2005, 03:46 PM
cellent job of the head, I like how you've done the ears. Haven't seen that before. Good luck with it.

04 April 2005, 05:52 PM
wow ..great work ..I like this hentai style ..
I dont like just a thing : he has a sweet expression!
keep it up

04 April 2005, 06:01 PM
Wow, again a big modeling of smooth. I wait the suite, background and texture, i hope you make a great pic like your grand space:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:02 PM
excuse me,.. alittle crit the legs of the xoman in the center is too big

04 April 2005, 07:49 PM
Hey nice work so far. I like the way it is sort of tender and creepy at the same time. Cheers

04 April 2005, 07:54 PM
I really like this style. My eyes is on this thread :) continue

04 April 2005, 10:11 PM
what an impressive model. It is emotional 100%

You have done it in z-brush, but how did you pose them? Tell us a bit about your workflow because this is amazing!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

About the shoulders they feel out of place. Maybe too high and too squared? I guess heīs strong so he should have this muscle neck-to-shoulder a bit more visible, that way the shoulders would come down a bit. I hope this makes any sense because Iīm not very technical about anatomy.

04 April 2005, 10:57 PM
Pretty work:thumbsup:,

those tentaculos by all the parts and these bodies, remember much to a titled illustration "the Space Machine of 1980". it was a squid in the space with many women.))

Much luck.:)


04 April 2005, 08:07 AM
hi smooth-criminal .. nice details on the tentacles:)...yeah the shoulder is a bit odd!..anyway excellent modeling!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:08 AM
I really really like the expressions on all the characters.. great emotion and design...

04 April 2005, 12:17 PM
S.DIMIS,authentic,riki,soapy,Maxko,pierre_bixquert,icedeyes: thanks for the support and opinions !:bounce:

niki: thanks! I try to make him less sweet!!:D

MDN67: yes donīt worry i am planing change this.:thumbsup:

bealobo: thanks! the tentacles are simple splines, with the option to make them visible in the viewport and in the render, later I transform to editable poly and export to z-brush, make the details and export again to max(the low resolution model ) and make a displacement map in zbrush and use this in max, I use this technique for all the models in the scene, the girls are rigged in max , I use skin tool for the deformations, and to pose the models.:)

yunisirees: yes i am going to correct the shoulder I donīt like it:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:29 PM
Hey Gerardo, Wicked models dude :thumbsup: I like your style have mastered zb then eh! good on ya mate...Looking forward to more of this one ...rock on dude...

04 April 2005, 12:36 PM
Hey mate!
the shoulders dont look that bad. Arm maybe could use a bit definition in the delts/biceps/tricepsarea. and the boneending on the backside of the handjoints caused from bending hands.
supecool composition and sweet modeling. pauldorns could look a bit more paralel to the upper arms. that would set shoulders right maybe?
Keep it up, this is an awesome piece, looking forward to your next update!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:48 PM
Great job :thumbsup:, The master's expresion is so gentle his personality looks so good.

04 April 2005, 01:07 PM
thats smooth modeling you got there.
Cant wait to see more udpates:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:45 PM
Great work man. I like concept and modeling. Maybe to reduce the size of legs of this girl/woman, I think they are too heavy. Anyway it's very good.

Great work and good luck! :thumbsup:

(sorry for my english)

04 April 2005, 03:59 PM
blackdragoncg,the1st_angel,Crying Horn,Mr Micro26,Abishai_: thanks for the crit. and words, the girls are not finished, still need to make some cloth and correct proportions,I am going to change the shoulders of the master, now are testing some texturing and fur in the tentacles, I hope to put an update soon!!:bounce:

04 April 2005, 06:17 PM
Hi. love your modelling:thumbsup: . What's the background is going to be? Be Cool.

My thread

04 April 2005, 01:18 PM (

testing some colors and backgrouns, and painting the hair to have an idea of the final look. still needs to change many things...crit are welcome.

04 April 2005, 01:25 PM
Wow! Better and better.

04 April 2005, 01:29 PM
aaaaaaaa... GREAT!!! sh*t.. That's GREAT :)

04 April 2005, 02:08 PM
I think that girl's legs looks too fat, and the butt is too rounded, but generally looks great, great colors and composition, nice...

good luck!

04 April 2005, 02:26 PM
:eek: congrats amazing work !

04 April 2005, 02:31 PM
you are a smooth CG criminal.. very smooth approach to the textures.. as you said still needs a bit of work but the colour scheme looks really good dude.. sticking to style and looking great man.!! lets see where this goes shall we... awesome :applause:

04 April 2005, 02:38 PM
Whaoo great stuff here! congrat so far Smooth-Criminal :thumbsup:

Really nice feeling on this shot :bounce:

04 April 2005, 12:05 PM
suk-grigorij,Maxko,jddog,Neeno,collings: thanks for the comments guys!!:scream:
Crying Horn: yes, i am going to change this donīt worry.:)

04 April 2005, 12:37 PM
Wow looks like a clay model...nice subtle details :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:45 PM
hi ~Smooth-Criminal ...looking so cool`mate. beautiful modelling progress. +good texturing+ good concept. i`m looking forward to see your next wip!...going nice!...good luck:)

04 April 2005, 03:13 PM
3dRaven,goktug: thanks! tonight I hope to make an upload:) !

04 April 2005, 03:15 PM
Really?? GREAT! :) I can't wait .. :)

04 April 2005, 03:18 PM
youve been stopped by...a smooth criminal [insert michael jackson wooo ooooo oooh] :eek::argh::applause:

04 April 2005, 04:39 PM
Nice work! :applause:

The concept is great. I wait to the next step with more textures and more details.

I have only a little critic, No offense!
I have problems with the left knee of the girl on the right and her left shoulder. The shape look like a bit weird. But No Offense.

I love the scene.

04 April 2005, 09:36 PM
Wow Smooth-Criminal, I haven't been here in a while and it looks like you're near done! You've really pulled together a very powerful image so far man!
Keep it up:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 09:42 PM
That last rendering reminds me of the Arnold renderer :)

04 April 2005, 12:52 AM
Maxko,jdsb,DaddyMack,3dRaven: thanks for all!!:thumbsup: venum:thanks, is No offense, the girls are nor finished i am going to change this errors more late!:buttrock:

04 April 2005, 01:02 AM (

light test in cepia tone, and adding the background to see the whole.

04 April 2005, 01:09 AM
great work, its a beauty. see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:45 AM
I like the tentacle guy,,,U pulled nice job with tentacles here,,the way they swirm arround and under girls legs,nice.

04 April 2005, 08:27 AM
It's pleasure to see how do you working - from sketch to exact scene :) I like it, it really shows love and warm feelings :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:12 PM
alex.h.,A I R,(o)ne:thanks!! again!! for all the comments:bounce:

04 April 2005, 12:29 PM (

color version,with a little retouch, still working in some details for the master, and leving the girls for the last, i hope to finish all the modeling this weekend, crit are welcome.

04 April 2005, 02:31 PM

What kind of shading will you do on your scene. Clay, photorealistic...?

the clay look is actually is really interesting


04 April 2005, 02:38 PM
venum: I use finalrender stage-1 with 1 directional light, with a blin basic color texture and a noise in bump channel thatīs all. still need to make the textures is only a material for testing!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:05 PM
very simple way of lighting a scene yet great results.. final render always does the trick such a great renderer.. Good work dude.. this is looking as such a great piece of cg art as it unfolds.. good luck on your progress..

04 April 2005, 05:17 PM
Hi Gerardo,

really nice progress you got in here :thumbsup: Just one little thing... the hands of the master look a bit to large... I bet you wanted it so...

04 April 2005, 05:41 PM
:) smooth criminal, that's a good news.
I'm eager to see the next step with the textures. Move on...

:applause::applause::applause: triple bravos.

04 April 2005, 12:14 PM (

thanks for all the words, here are an update, with new elements in the background I have to change some details, and start with the textures, I hope to finish in time,I have some few hours per day to work in this, sorry for the delays in the updates, the critics are always welcome.

04 April 2005, 05:51 PM
:thumbsup: great update.
Nice design for the light. The ambiance is warmer. I like that.
Now the light don't have any effect onto the characters.
I hope to see update soon:applause:

04 April 2005, 06:01 PM
right, but It's getting better :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:52 PM
Very nice feeling in your image, the modeling looks great as usual. The one thing the background seems to light in color or something, just my opinion. Great job so far.

04 April 2005, 07:33 PM
very very nice work. although i don't like the subject, i must say it deliver a lot of feeling. realy tender work.

04 April 2005, 12:32 PM
venum,(o)ne,mmoir,smaddl: thanks for the crit., is only a fast composition, i am going to correct the light in the characters!
:thumbsup: .

04 April 2005, 07:48 PM
:thumbsup:Smooth-Criminal, I'm gonna wait your next step:twisted:

04 April 2005, 08:03 PM
This like this so far, I can't wait to see it finished.

05 May 2005, 04:09 PM (

thanks again for the support, this time I modified the yellow light of the bottom so that it has influence in the characters, still missing the textures, in this test, i am going to put an update soon.

05 May 2005, 05:42 PM
The master need as weel to receive light even more than the ladies.
carry on. We need to see more:twisted:

05 May 2005, 06:13 PM
Great work, WOW. :thumbsup: Everything is just perfekt! (i am jealous:) )

05 May 2005, 06:22 PM
Awesome work man! I like it:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 02:42 AM
Lighting is coming along great I think! Everything is nicely lit up, I think what your scene lacks right now is atmosphere, that's all. Some dust or specks in the air, but this will come later. Cheers to more good work mate!

:thumbsup: :buttrock:

05 May 2005, 02:56 AM
I am quite new to this, and I have been reading through the forums, and am amazed at the big guns that are competing. I guess I just wasn't thinking about it when I signed up! This makes me very excited, and very anxious to be getting to work! I like what I see.
I look foreward to your final product- I think the composition is very good- but I am a sucker for heavy bottom compositions.
Good luck!

05 May 2005, 04:23 PM
Very warm and beautiful background, wasn't expecting something like that :thumbsup: , but you still need to corect those legs and butt to that girl in masters arms, just my opinion, good luck!

05 May 2005, 12:36 PM
venum,raid,mmaxx,keetmun,mrdpoe,Crying Horn: thanks for the copmments and crit, I am working in the changes, the only problem is time, i am going to do the best i can, thanks for all!!:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 11:13 AM
Hi Gerardo!

Nice progress!..Your work is amazing:thumbsup: ...not much to say just keep it your way...

MyMaster&Servant (

05 May 2005, 11:33 AM

Simply perfect! :bowdown: Those girl faces with that smile...also that hug is very impressive as an emotional action! Keep it up mate! :bounce:

05 May 2005, 11:47 PM (

only a texture test of the tentacles, master face and armor, the tentacles are going to be diferent in the final version.

05 May 2005, 11:55 PM

hey that's look promissing:applause:

05 May 2005, 12:49 AM
venum: thanks for your comments!:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:53 AM (

close to final, I think this is going to be the final, still needs some little adjust, but the end time is close!! crit. are very welcome!.

05 May 2005, 01:14 AM
Hey Gerardo,
I like what you have done with the face of the master. :thumbsup: The facial expressions of the characters and the little flowers all over the ground really creates a great mood to the pic.:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Good luck with this.

05 May 2005, 05:06 AM
lovely piece smooth criminal ... really came together with this color scheme .. the flowers are an incredible touch ... so much detail in those

wonderful piece :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 02:28 PM
:thumbsup: Really original work! On the last comp, we can't read the shape, the volume. The picture look like too flatten. Maybe, there is too much ambiant light or too much light.

I like the flowers a lot.

Smooth-Criminal 3 days to go.... It's going to be good

05 May 2005, 06:03 PM
so emotional!
good work!

05 May 2005, 12:34 PM (

Lord of the Depths.
Lhotar Master of the underworld, it maintains the harmony of all the alive beings of of their world.
He is taken care by their three servants, they love him and for the master they are the most valuable
treasure, they live a relationship of affection and love.


Thank you another time for the whole help and the encouragement received during this challenge.

05 May 2005, 10:24 PM
mmoir,pigwater,bealobo: thanks for the crit.!!

venum: thanks for the tip!! I hope that you like the final image.:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:14 AM
:thumbsup: I could tell you a lot of things, but it's too late. I like your concept.
If I tell you It could be better, I hope You're not being offensing. I like the ambiance and the concept, the modeling is great.
Amazing work smooth.

05 May 2005, 01:14 AM
venum: is not offensing, make all the critics no problem is betther for my to improve mi concepts in the future, i know there are many things, and that they could have improved with more time, but well, this time I did not have much time for this challenge, perhaps the next. thanks for your interest, and time!!:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 04:53 PM
Hey Smooth-Criminal, finaly you've finished it, looks very beautiful. So touching, so gentle and warm, colors are very soft and sweet to my eye... Everything looks so clean and very well crafted... good luck!

05 May 2005, 04:59 PM
thats one lucky master hehehe... great work btw... congratulations dude & good luck!!!

05 May 2005, 05:01 PM
Brilliant image, muy buena amigo, congratulations and good luck

05 May 2005, 05:19 PM
nice composition, but maybe not enough atmosphere in the scene...

Anyway, i'ts a very good modeling work ;)
Good luck man :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 07:18 PM

interresting mood you caught there... I like the warm colors... :thumbsup: you got my vote!!!

05 May 2005, 01:01 PM
Thanks for the comments, and good luck to all!!!:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:17 PM
the master is adorable!


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