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03 March 2005, 11:43 AM
Simon Bull has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

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final image. don't you want to touch it?

03 March 2005, 11:47 AM
welcome and good luck:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 02:10 PM
thanks amd same to al this is gonna be cool :)

03 March 2005, 02:20 PM
I went to school with a guy called Simon Bull. You ain't originally from Southern England are are you?

Good luck either way! :love:

03 March 2005, 02:22 PM (

just playing around...put in me to get the comp and building up the tank.....

this is

03 March 2005, 02:25 PM
interesting concept.good luck!

03 March 2005, 02:50 PM (

working out the lights a little and getting the colours down too....but this is really just a sketch for the beginning

03 March 2005, 02:54 PM
keep at it!

03 March 2005, 03:58 PM (

working out the lights a little and getting the colours down too....but this is really just a sketch for the beginning

03 March 2005, 04:00 PM
inspired from the book........secret....heheh

and im from many simon bulls around :)

03 March 2005, 04:07 PM
Wow! great start. :)

Good luck with your entry! I'll be stoping by regularly, as long as you post regularly too! :P

03 March 2005, 12:24 AM
woke up with the hangover from hell.....cant remember making the picture

looks cool

love CYB

03 March 2005, 02:13 AM
i havefigured out the three things that will make this picture wat it is...

beer, evil and ....dunno

i also think that i am going walls are melting again....this hang over is really killing me......might work on the pic again later

welcome to the life of cyb

03 March 2005, 02:52 PM
still working out the story the way i want to go....either going for really evil or very sad....dont know yet....i think the sad had more potential for emotion as this is what the challenge is all about....

should have my first line sketch up in the next few days....

then to the full painting which is where all the fun lies :)

should have something a little more solid than the crappy sketch thats above :)



03 March 2005, 12:11 PM
Nice Work Cybu San, looking forward to seeing something pretty messed up from the likes of you.

03 March 2005, 12:38 PM (

ok did a quick line art piece to get the feeling of the perspective and see how its looking...i dont really do line art at all anymore since i studied painting and i actually think its a bad habit for most people...i usually lay down a tonal painting first...anyway i like how its looking so far...
next stap is to ad a little more ruined stuff on the left and along the floor...

also heres the background story for thoes who care..

A guy and a dolphin in a spaceship..they are the only two aboard..dolphin is a little suped up..ite it can communicate on a higher level than normal..

the slave is the dolphin...tuned into the ship with its brain to run stuff for the human..although it is a happy slave...the dolphin likes its master and the master loves the dolphin in return (as they are the only two on the ship)..

but something goes wrong and the dolphin loses all control of the ship..they are now flying blind...when the master comes down to check on his friend something hits the ship or there is an explosin. the master gets half crushed infront of the tank by the ceiling above...he is pinned down and wull surely die.

the dolphin cant go anywhere and cant control the ship to get help..he can so nothing but watch his master (and best friend) slowly die...with nobody else in the ship and no control of the ship the dolphin will soon start its own lonely death from starvation or some other not so nice fate...

Any way thats the short background story....thinking i might write a real short staoy to match the painting if i get time...

what do you all think?


03 March 2005, 01:12 PM
Ha, All I can really say is "I told you so". I must point out though, it does look unusual to se you draw in line. And if he was just going down to check up on him...then why is he naked?

03 March 2005, 03:22 PM (

just fo mark i thought id put some clothing on the

Hes wearing a light full body wet suit...
Cloud gave me the idea for the logo on the back...thanks man..

also aded a panal that has fallen in the blast and spilt its guts of wires into the room..

also some girders that are half hanging down...

tHink that will be it for the night..


03 March 2005, 12:02 AM
Lookin Awesome Man. His bottom hand looks better like that too. Keep it up.

03 March 2005, 03:09 AM
thanks man....gotta work today but ill be working on it again later tonight...
really wanna get to the colouring stage as thats where i think my real strenght lies...although i think the line work is doing me pretty much ONLY using the line

Have a fun day all :)


03 March 2005, 02:06 PM (

im gonna past heaps in the next one or two up to the painting part which is where my true heart lies....

stay tuned for basically some very fast painting as im gonna try to get alot of ground work done tonight as i sit with a few beer...i hope you enoy the pic as it comes to life...


03 March 2005, 02:24 PM (

now getting in the darks...

03 March 2005, 02:43 PM (

a little bit o fuzz :)

next is a little clean up...

03 March 2005, 03:07 PM (

yup the guy in now....i think its comming up pretty cool.....

Would love to know what SOMEONE thinks!!



CYb :)

03 March 2005, 04:04 PM (

starting t do some details.....its getting good but its also getting at almost but its fun :)

03 March 2005, 04:52 PM (

yup yup......into the center of the storm!!

just adding more details and getting more drunk.....on the last either a walk to AMPM or the

just one comment can do it!!


peace tonight..


03 March 2005, 05:53 PM (

ypu up yup getting in thos little .lights and wheresa the where at.....a litttttttttle to out of it now....;lol...

the dolphin is very sad

03 March 2005, 11:46 PM
Truely awesome dude. It's wicked to see the process you go through, it's been a while since I've actually been there to see it. Can't wait for the finished thang. This is gunna look cool.

THE Wizard
03 March 2005, 11:52 PM
Not bad, thou a little dark... But I like it

:twisted: my master and servant 2d (my master and servant 2d

03 March 2005, 03:18 AM
woke up with the biggest hangover

yoeah mark it has been a LONG time since youve seen mey painting...

Not bad, thou a little dark... But I like it

yeah mister wiZ this is really what i want and its also how i paint...basicallt at this stage there are only three tones...its how i always paint...there will be alot more detail in all areas but i plan to keep the lighting very moody...

i want outside the tank to be vert dark to give a feeling of death...inside the tank is light to give feeling of life...its all in the master


03 March 2005, 03:56 AM
Not a bad start. I read your story and have to say that you really need to make the picture tell the story better. Don't get me wrong, the idea is good but the picture just doesn't do it justice yet. I mean you've said the Dolphin controls the ship but there is no indication of that in the image. Maybe you need some wires hooked up to it's brain or something. On the plus side your relationship between dolphin and man is coming through. Good start.

03 March 2005, 04:01 AM
liked the dolphin and man stuff

but agry with Groady up here

good luck to you man :)

03 March 2005, 04:26 AM
I kinda tend to agree with Groady a bit. Something to insinuate that the Dolphin was controlling the ship would be good. As for the darkness, I like it. I tells you the system is down, and the emergancy back up lights coming from the hatch works well. Some live wires sparking might add a nice hint of more immediate danger maybe?

03 March 2005, 04:38 AM
yup...i can see yas points...

my first intention was to have the dolphin fully hooked up...but then i thought the dolphin needs to seem happy where he is...he likes his job and life...

i had planned to make him a little cyber..bits stuck to his body and the like...dunno just gonna have to see how it flows...

thanks for the comments..


03 March 2005, 07:28 AM
Those colors have come along nicely, I think. I really like the base colors you've chosen for the i-beam that's collapsed on the guy.

I've been thinking... it might be a good idea to have his head angled so that he's actually looking at the dolphin. Like, some sort of unspoken communiqué in his dying breath, said with their eyes.


Well, he was going to swim with him n3kk1d before. ;)

03 March 2005, 02:35 PM
Very nice and touching story and I love the lighting, moody is always good :)

03 March 2005, 02:55 PM
Oooh, yeah..... the eyes Simon.......Pay attention to the eyes..... I don't actully know what Clouds talking about, but everything comes from the eyes, so make sure you get that communicae right.

04 April 2005, 02:52 PM (

fixed up the head a bit so now i have taken peoples advice and made him looking into the dolphins eyes...

its sort of thrown the proportions off a bit so im going to have to do a little more work on the body...

but next i really want to get the background and the dolphin a little more resolved...with those in place a little more it should be eaiser to sort out the
master a little more...again ill just hae to see how it all fits in as i go..

anyways...had a killer day at work
so its time for a relax..

this was just a quick udate to see what yas all think..nothing too set..

will do alot tomorrow night i do think!


04 April 2005, 04:35 PM
One word:



Okay, a few more words. The striations on his neck rock. I really hope you work those up for the next layer.

I can't tell if the arms are the proper length, from here, but you might still want to take a look at them.

04 April 2005, 04:54 PM
wow.. i think this one is going to be very intensive! i like the colors a lot.. reminds me of some computer game or so.. i wish you the best luck! keep on!

can´t wait to see more!!

04 April 2005, 02:59 PM (

hello again....had another busy night and had to stay back at work so i only got a bit done tonight..

started working on the dolphin...and before anyone says anything YES it is a dolphin...jst not one of those ones with the pointy noses (bottle nosed??)

anyways i wanna get him in so i can see what i need to do...make him cyber or not...i still dont like the idea of stuff comming out of him as it would look a bit cruel...its supposed to be a happy dolphin...and i wouldnt be haappy if i had heaps of crap drilled into me by stupid the start i wanted t think of him as just having line Nano stuff in him to control the ship but of course that doesnt tell the story very well...anways i guess ill ust have to see how it goes...but i intend to keep the dolphin environment looking once happy...just dunno how as of yet...


04 April 2005, 11:03 AM
prepare for update madness again as ive got no work tomorrow (i hope ), i sit back with some beer and do some serious painting :0

04 April 2005, 11:42 AM (

gonna do some quick work on the tank now and then work outwards....i think its the focus of the piece so i wanna get it in nice :)

04 April 2005, 11:47 AM
Interesting theme you have going there... reminds me a bit of Willam Gibson's 'Johnny Mnemonic' - that is the short story, not the badly done movie. Interesting to see how it goes. I've also gotta say i agree with Groady a little in that there needs to be a little more insinuation of the dolphin's control. Looking good though.

04 April 2005, 11:56 AM

Yeah man i 10003% agree.....but the question is how to do it without making the slave look too much of a slave in the evil sense

dictionary meaning of slave...
"One BOUND in servitude as the property of a person or household."

the key word in my story it the binding....its a bond of more than service..

i got some ideas but dunno if inm gonna try them out tonight....but dont worry its a major issue on my mind :)

but of course thanks for the comments...keeps em streaming :0


04 April 2005, 12:23 PM (

gonna do some quick work on the tank now and then work outwards....i think its the focus of the piece so i wanna get it in nice :)

04 April 2005, 12:28 PM (

starting the tank reflect to see whats needed....

i want to mainly work on the tank for a little...see how it goes and what i need to work on ..

( ^u^ )/

04 April 2005, 12:58 PM (

getting in the bottom of the tank now...

its getting alot slower as i go...alot of reworking over the crappy layers that i did to start with...also gettig a little

having fun to know what a few more people think..


04 April 2005, 01:27 PM
Interesting idea, The colouring of the tank and dolphin looks cool. :)

Maybe the tank needs something in the back.. just to balance the composition out....just a thought :)

04 April 2005, 11:25 PM
Wow man, nice work...BAM!

That's quite impressive, it's coming along so well. Love the distortion through the glass in the latest edition. Keep it coming man.

04 April 2005, 02:50 AM (

just spent 20 befoe work doing a little smoothing of the floor and back wall...
will do a little more after dinner tonignt if i can



04 April 2005, 04:17 PM (

just addinbg more detail a little at a time before and after work each night as im really busy...

tonight i fixedup some of the lines on the left...made them straight and mre into perspective...

added some more fallen wires and cleaned up that area a little....fixed the lines aroung the ladder well a little too...

will do a bit mopre tomorrow night too...

04 April 2005, 03:55 AM
Ooh, I like the little warning on the computer terminal at the back. The message came a little late for him though didn't it. lol

04 April 2005, 03:57 AM
man... i cant get over how much this reminds me of junny mnemonic... if that is how you spell that ... great movie from way back when.

04 April 2005, 02:39 PM
man... i cant get over how much this reminds me of junny mnemonic..

i know that ive seen it althought i cant remember anything about the movie...

does it really look like something from the movie?
id love to know how so...

anyay more updates on the work again later tonight...more cleaning up and
working the straight lines back into the painting...


04 April 2005, 02:56 PM
You have been doing some nice progress. I really like the colours so far. I have one suggestion I'd like to make. It is just an idea but it would be interesting to see just a little bit of blood to make the situation a little more serious. Perhaps have the character's hand stained with blood and as he reaches out to touch the glass there is a little bit of blood spread across the glass. I wouldn't glorify the blood but make it feel little bit serious I think. Just an idea, I like your piece either way. :)

04 April 2005, 03:56 PM
I have one suggestion I'd like to make. It is just an idea but it would be interesting to see just a little bit of blood to make the situation a little more serious. Perhaps have the character's hand stained with blood and as he reaches out to touch the glass there is a little bit of blood spread across the glass.

yup thats on the cards for sure....
my intention is to have some smears of blood around the bady on the ground and also
on his face and neck...also i had also wanted to make it like his hand had slid on the glass tank and left a blood smear...i did a few tests a while back and i think i can pull it off with out making it at all gory....more of a touching feeling then a yucky feeling..

my intentions at this stage are mainly to get the base layer down and have all the lines straight and shaded..then ill ad the details..

Still got a hell of a long way to go tho...hehe

thanks for the trying to take as many of them on board as i can...


04 April 2005, 12:17 PM (

again still redoing the lines in the colour version...its gonna take a while and its making me sleepy....or is it the beer?...hehe

gonna watch a dvd and then get back into it a little later tonight...

see yous then!!

04 April 2005, 12:19 PM
looking good,made great progress since the beggining.

04 April 2005, 03:04 PM (

this is more like the back ground detail that im heading i think ill do i do a dirt texture on the same part to see what i can do....

04 April 2005, 04:57 PM
i think this ladder id my focal point.

i know alot about compisition and if somewone says "nice comp" again i may kill them..

comp is about leading he eye and teh focus of tha lead..

ive got my own idea on where that lies but i want you to tell me where it is??

peace love and drunk cy bb

04 April 2005, 05:15 PM (

just a little test to see how it could look adged...what do yo think?

i think it looks too done ovr...maybe mre subtle and built up layers could look beteer.....welll see how it goes...

really drunk

04 April 2005, 03:58 AM
Nice composition! \(^o^)/

Actually, I just wanted to reiterate what I told you last night as I don't know how much alcohol you had in your system at the time:

I think that this image would be really, really nice if there was a final light bloom layer added in the final stages. The light around the ladder exit, the light coming from the dolphin, even the light dancing on the dolphin -- it'd add to the dreamy "I'm about to die!" feeling you've got going.

I like the ageing and the extra detailing. An extra nice touch might be to add a bit of graffiti or even a sticker or something. It'd be cool if on the side wall there next to the ladder there was some sort of indicator as to what floor you'd arrived on? Maybe?

04 April 2005, 04:11 PM (

jus thought id do a little woek on the guy quickly tonight
as i havnt really been doing stuff that looks different for the posts before...ive mainly been working on cleaning up a little on the background..

but as you can see i made the guys rough head...still got to make it mtch the scene lighting a little more (i have around only the nose and eyes)...ill need to make the hair, neck and cheeks fit in...shouldnt be to hard...

anyway thats it for another night...


04 April 2005, 01:26 AM
Cyb, this is looking extreemly F&*?! cool. Perhaps you should put a bowlers hat on the dolphin to lighten up the mood a bit, lol. I'm just being an idiot. Keep it up man, see you soon.

04 April 2005, 03:35 PM (

ok Ive been pretty busy of late but i managed do spend a little time on the painting tonight..

still redoing the lines around the ladder
also redid the body shape and am starting to shade/color it a little...

redid the color on the face and hair to make it match the scene a little more..
still goto to redo the neck but now i think ill move onto the background a little again..think ill do the i said before i think that wil be a main focus of the background so i wanna get it looking cool soon...

still got so much to do and so little free time that im worried that im gonna get it done to the standard that i want before the due date...

thinggs on the near futer things to do..

* redo the floor with my line pattern from the line are drawing (tile like lines that go out from the tank.

* details in teh dark back walls...machines and stuff only a little in the light..

* redo the computer screen and make a cool messaege/ critical warning screen to match..

* redraw the wires and fallen stuff on the left ogf the picture..

* the guys hands.

* finish the tank...glas distortions and reflection..(will be quite a task and may take ages to get it good..

* blood smears on the guy and tank from the guys hands...

* a dirt/ detail layer...stuff like clouds sticker and sign ideas that i really like..worn areas from where people moigh walk often or use an area often...scuff marks and the such...
also alge in the tank and tiny floaties like real tank water..and just dirty the tank a little..

* cyber up the dolphin somehow to make it fit into the controlling the ship story a little better.

phew...theres more but i cant be bothered typing it...if anyone has any suggestions on any of the above please let rip!!

Also some more crits are always welcome...

Anyway reading time...

Have fun all.


04 April 2005, 05:29 PM
dude ur figures really coming out great after all the touch ups, great job!

04 April 2005, 03:13 PM (

of course ive been busy not too much noticable stuff for a while...just little tweaks and nudges here and there...

one thing i did do tho was to put the ladder back in again...only rough but i think it looks heaps better than before with the back wall more one up..

next is more ladder work, more taank worh...redo the guys hair...and then well see where we can go from there...

id have to say that im happy with the pic so far...just wish i had more free time to do some real work on it insteaded of tiny touches each night...

anyway might still get there in the end....29 days left so should be sweet...


04 April 2005, 02:04 PM
Oooh, I'm a sucker for trivial $h!t. I like the ladder. Looks V nice. The new face look great...kinda familiar, If you know what I mean. True to form from you & I. I like the hair cut, it's like this 60's futurised cut. quite cool.

"You try so hard, but you, don't understand, just what you will say when you get home...

05 May 2005, 05:33 AM
sitting in an internet cafe writing this!!

oh my got NTT japan are evil!!

anyway ive done a little more on the painting...just cant post

will do some more today if i can pull myself away from watching Naruto for a couple of hours...

the next image post will prob be a big jump...sorry but at the moment it cany be helped...

see you all soon...


05 May 2005, 11:18 AM
internets still dead :(

should be back up within a week...will do a big post before the due date hopefully...
man its really s$%ting me..any way ive done heaps on the get ready for a big suprise...ive done the guys reflection and basically finished him off...also redone alot of the tank..and also the back wall/ so sad that i cant post at the moment...but im saving some pictures as i go so some progressive picts will be comming...

anyway its beer time...

love cyb

05 May 2005, 11:04 AM (

just submitting my final color. final image in about five minutes. ;)

05 May 2005, 11:10 AM (

final image. don't you want to touch it?

05 May 2005, 04:55 AM
Well, it certainly ended up one heck of a beautiful painting, man. It's still missing a dog with a speech bubble, but I suppose that in the end it works without.

I'm proud of ya. Hope you win something grand!

05 May 2005, 10:14 AM
Very Impressive Cybu san! That's one totally amazing work of art.

Best of luck old friend.

05 May 2005, 12:16 AM
Simon, this is an intensly emotional piece. I find the questions it rises strong! But, judging from the story you wrote perhaps I am reading into it? But then again, the whole story that you wrote down seems long compared to the one intense moment that you paint. So much else has happened to the ship, the dolphin, but here they are gazing (tenderely) at each other and asking for some outside help. All of this is captured in this one fleeting moment that in a second will be different. The dolphin is the slave, but, the man depends on him! Without the dolphin tha man can't fly his ship. I like that you are not clear really in the end about who is master and servant ... that enough? I could go on looking into your painting ...

Good luck. Marc

05 May 2005, 03:01 AM
im really glad you guys liked it...
i wanted to do alot more but since we have no internet i had to submit it a week early
so that i would get it in on time...

i think ill keep working on it in the future but in a couple of months...

i suppose the written story tells a hell of a lot more than the picture but im not
fussed by that all....people can take what they want frm my art, just as long as it gives them something to think about then im happy..

im also thinking of writting a book along the lines of the same story...i like writing as well as painting..

i would also like to thank everyone who posted on my guys really kept me going and came out with some great just sorry that i didnt have time to post more on others work...(at the moment im sitting in a net cafe in the fifteen min before i strart my work) having no inter net has really made it difficult but im just happy that i got there in the end..

special thatnks to mark and DC who gave loads of input all day every day..thanks guys!!

05 May 2005, 07:48 AM
Nice piece of artwork.

05 May 2005, 06:16 AM
Looking forward to see how this contest goes...there is alot of really great work here from everyone!!

Anybody know an around time for the results....?
ill have a look now but dont have much time as im still on the net cafe kick..


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