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04 April 2005, 11:59 AM
Zbrush Zbrush everywhere, Great fluid whips in the cape Dimitris, Keep it flowing man!

04 April 2005, 12:04 PM (

....i can't work on this much where i am right now i just took the wall that's in my scene on the right and played a bit with Paint FX (converted in Poly's so i can import them in XSI from Maya)

what do you think?

04 April 2005, 12:08 PM
great decoration, are some of them going to have some movement? see you and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:12 PM
....i can't work on this much where i am right now i just took the wall that's in my scene on the right and played a bit with Paint FX (converted in Poly's so i can import them in XSI from Maya)

what do you think?

mmh... maybe too much perfect... all parts too much similar... need a bit of madness... and that's will be better... if you see :scream:

mmmh mmh... Maya is still practicle, no ? hahahaha :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:29 PM
Hey thanks guys for the kind words and observations...
Lemog i will make it more clear soon so u can tell me if u like it better my friend.

...oh and yes Maya is still very practical...hehehehh

Antropus man i won't never quit my Maya...but i thought that this challenge would be a good opportunity to be a crash course for me to learn better XSI and ZBrush...and yes ZB is quite a tool..i hope one day i know it like u my friend...u are doing awesome job ..that is why ..i hate u......naaahhhh...i hate u ..yes..:scream:

mikepol |3D| ...sure man...anytime that i realized u are just 3 blocks away from my home...anytime..:thumbsup:

alex.h. ...movement ? ...iwill try to make the final image to have the feeling of motion..but other than that , this time i am only focusing in just static modeling and creation...:bounce:

markovicd., spirogyro, SUN, Squibbit, DaddyMack....and any other i might forget... :beer: :beer:

04 April 2005, 11:51 PM (

...fixed column distances again, height of Ares...and experimenting a bit with lights and coloring ....

C&C awlays welcomed...

04 April 2005, 12:16 AM
A very powerful piece! The only thing I can say at this point is that the dude seems a little too perfect. Possibly the exact placing of the feet and such, Maybe needs to be a little non-symmmetrical.

04 April 2005, 12:16 AM
This is really great. Now stop modeling and tweak the hell out of atmosphere and composition, that would make this pic stand out


04 April 2005, 03:10 AM
Beaytifull man!

Really beautifull sence of gradure :thumbsup: .

04 April 2005, 03:12 AM
awesome dude.. everything in your scene just looks perfect.. top stuff!!

04 April 2005, 03:52 AM
Hey Dimitris,

Your scene is looking great , the lighting is looking good. That is one mean looking weapon. Good luck with this.

04 April 2005, 03:56 AM
Hi Dimi! This work is more and more fantastic! Your style is very impressive, I'm liking the detail level, really a harmonic composition... particularly I prefer the lights now, so value the details:)
Amazing work man! keep on...

04 April 2005, 04:47 AM
Good choice in colors. It was looking a little "busy" when everything was gray, but really stands out now. Great job! (cloth is really cool...:) )

Zlatan B.
04 April 2005, 04:59 AM
Cool background and overall modeling is unbelievable. But the guy looks a bit stiff.
Cannot wait to see it finished.:thumbsup:

my stuff: (

04 April 2005, 05:06 AM
great dimi, very well modeling; one question: ares weapon...what kind of weapons it'll be? Some kind of bow or staff? maybe its a bit overloaded....:shrug:

04 April 2005, 05:18 AM
All that is really better now... better disposition and scale for the columns... movment for clothes... that totally agree me... you are in the best way now... don't turn Dimi... all right :scream:

I'm a bit sad to don't see your updates for the next week... but I'm sure that will be fantastic, and still an real chock for me... ā bientôt :wavey:

04 April 2005, 05:34 AM
The movement adds a lot to the image, nicely done. I should look into incorporating more of that into my work.

I do agree that the pose is very symmetrical. I understand that he's very powerful, but i'd want to see him in some impressive pose that he stays in while the pupil has fallen, to enhance the idea that his technique is superior.


04 April 2005, 07:21 AM
Hi dimitri ! very nice ! is your charactor from greek mythology? Ares is god of war?? I dont' know much about detail but very cool , and now my entry was very slow because now I'm addict to Ps2 game God of war!! it's very fun ! I hope I can come back to work heheheh:bounce:

04 April 2005, 07:28 AM
oh my, what a great update! it's better everytime I take a look, it's exciting so see this great piece unfold, I'm sure everybody is eager to see your next update! take care :bounce:

04 April 2005, 07:35 AM
Very nice work dimitri.... Everything seems fine in your composition too...:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:49 AM
Your work goes from strength to strength. You clearly are a master of your art and the updates are leaps how much time are you putting in? Great work all the best. :applause:

04 April 2005, 11:00 AM (

...Just an experiment 'cause some friends asked me if he is going to be bold...(i want him bold ...but if he looks better with hair why not )

04 April 2005, 11:03 AM ( ...comments and opinions on this will be most helpfull

Should i keep the hair ? ( he looks younger now i think)

04 April 2005, 11:20 AM
erilaz ...thanks man ..i see what i can do about it, it's puzzling a bit my mind too...

Mandrake ...hahahha...u are right Master...but i have to make the Slave Amazon too....but i gotcha....i experiment on this already...:)

Kanga ...thanks man...wait to see what i am gonna when i will be 6 yrs old :scream: ...:beer:

Neeno, mmoir, Wandddo,safe05 ... thanks friends!

Zlatan B., pixelkeg ... thanks guys..i see if i can do something about it in final compo....

Grimreaper1981's a tween axe and bow ..but maybe u are right that it's a bit overloaded...i will give it some serious thought...thanks man.

Lemog ...thanks my friend..i hope it will give u a nice surprise after a week....:beer:

monsitj ...Hi my friend ..yes ..his story is inspired from Greek Mythology ...but heavily twisted to my head so i can make my story aound them....the visual style a mixture of cultures and happily i can say that after your suggestions ..except Greek infuence, Egyptian and some Persian has now and the Thai touch ..heavily ..hahahah

=BlackNull= , icedeyes , UK3D ...thanks friends for such kind words...i hope u like the rest of it too ...:beer:

04 April 2005, 11:36 AM
XSI and ZB nice team really!!... good work:thumbsup:


04 April 2005, 11:37 AM ( ...comments and opinions on this will be most helpfull

Should i keep the hair ? ( he looks younger now i think)

OH.... hmm... *looking at the hair*

Can't complain about the sculpting effort :applause: but... hmm... naah... I'm not sure. A lot can happen with good shaders here of course, but my first impression was "yikes!"... Everything else looks soooo good, and that makes it hard for such a wild hair to fit in the scene. And it's pretty gay too :D

Try some nifty shading and post the results, please. If it doesn't work, I'm sure it could be worth trying with a little shorter hair, say about half the lenght... it would still be fairly long...

04 April 2005, 11:50 AM
hey dimi , i think it would be much better if he doesn`t have hair... insted he has some tatoo ;) , but that is just me ;)

04 April 2005, 12:34 PM (

...i amde hair less, smaller and with less volume.....

I hope James he doesn't ,still, ...look gay...hhahaha

If u don't like it again..i think i am going to skip hair for now...arghh...

Comments and crits are always welcomed

04 April 2005, 12:37 PM
Yeah, the hair are cool but i prefer it also disturb a bit the composition i think...

Anyway, amazing work on the clothes effect and the wepon, nice design skills...

Good luck and keep that excellent work man :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 12:37 PM
hey dimi , i think it would be much better if he doesn`t have hair... insted he has some tatoo ;) , but that is just me ;)

thanks ..i might skip indeed...but i don't want him to have tatoos ...he is not just a warrior...he is supposed to be their God....but thanks anyway. :)

wabbit ... hahahah...bastard...he is not gay.....he just thinks he is member of Thundercats..:scream:

04 April 2005, 12:51 PM
Ah, shorter works better... He looks like a hair-dresser now, hence you can't be sure whether he's gay or not :D

Seriously though, the short one could work... will depend entirely on the shaders and lights here :wip:

04 April 2005, 01:03 PM
Hair - Dresser ? :eek:...argghhh ...i think i will skip the hair for now...he looses i think that heavy look on his face....mmmm hmm...yup hair goes awayyyyyyyy.....


04 April 2005, 01:04 PM
Whaow ! I must post a reply to this one !

Please, please, don't keep the hairs ! It looks like Patrick Swayze as a bodybuilder...:D
This is not gonna work like that.
This is my point of view on this.

Good luck ! everything else is ok ! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:06 PM
Whaow ! I must post a reply to this one !

Please, please, don't keep the hairs ! It looks like Patrick Swayze as a bodybuilder...:D
This is not gonna work like that.
This is my point of view on this.

Good luck ! everything else is ok ! :thumbsup:

Patrik Swayze...Now there is a reason for the hair to go right now....Done ...deleted hair ...bad hair ...bad hair....:scream:

04 April 2005, 01:10 PM
Maybe if you got an avatar WITH hair you wouldn't have these fits you know.:wise:

lol, otherwise looking excellent!

04 April 2005, 01:21 PM
Is really a lot better without this hair ... But I think you could try a not modeled hair ... Will be more slower, but could work better ...

04 April 2005, 01:27 PM
Hahaaah lol, good luck with the hair or there solution Dimitris...Glad you wiped it, Your scene is coming together in a most awe inspiring manner otherwise:thumbsup: Keep it up good sir

04 April 2005, 01:46 PM
I think the bald head makes him look more powerful. Everything looks good Dimi, but the pose of Ares seems lifeless, like a statue. Maybe you can capture the moment he is withdrawing his weapon from the attack he made on the amazon (I forgot her name). Just a suggestion.

04 April 2005, 02:17 PM
hey, great entry.. one of the best imo, as for ur characters hair, i would not make some.. its better without it imo.. or i would make flat hair,long and a poney tail! :) good work neway.. cant wait to see more..good luck m8!

04 April 2005, 02:37 PM
Hello Dimitris
Glad you wiped the hairs too, as so said it could work with a shader, but as ACE4016 noticed bold head looks more powerfull, something of purity or wisdom or something... A great god, too hairy it would go more on youngod.... no? OR a mad warrior, a true barabrian, than he would be supa shaggy, but it doesn't seems to be your line right know?
And i think ACE4016 as a point about the pos of ares, i thougt so for a while.... I don't know... In an other hand his more statuesque like this, it reminded me of the guardian keepers in the japanese temples... It truly depend of the completed scene so...
Plus i'm impatient of seeing your composotion with the other chara... Yop definitivly depending of her pos...What you want to say...
So blablabla waiting for the next update :bounce:

Still very admirative of the quality of your work :thumbsup:

Keep it up!

04 April 2005, 03:05 PM
gay gay gay ........ lol

04 April 2005, 03:25 PM
looks very good, i really like that you can see that there is wind blowing, very dynamic scene. Anly the hair looks too solid. Now it's like he washed it with cement or something :P . Besides that it looks really good man:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:54 PM
jmBoekestein ... lol...

JR.BRAZ, DaddyMack other hair solution..i may try after i finish with PaintFX in Maya plugins for hair in home i will go with another solution if i need to...but ..for now after that Patrick Swayze example has been out of my scene already...

ace4016 ...Bold he stays far as his pose ...welll ..i am not sure ....have u ever noticed Samurai warriors before attack....they don't move a muscle...also i think that this is shoing him more powerfull...but i will experiment on this.....thanks man

rhin0 ...thanks man...and yup as i said goes...hahahahaha

eddieellis ....oh Shut up ...shut up ... shut up :scream::bounce:

d-tox ...thanks seems that today with that hair thing ...i completely destroyed him image ...heheeh

updating in a while with scene compo so far....i made less busy also his weapon's not a bowaxe anymore....Just a tween axe....i think it looks better too....

04 April 2005, 03:55 PM
only joking dude, nice work

04 April 2005, 03:58 PM
I know man u are too....:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:00 PM
although mate, i kindda liked him better then he was bold.... he had much more of a menicing look to him.

04 April 2005, 04:03 PM
you haven't sold me here, he looks like he used a whole tube of GEL...

draw it on paper first. what are u going for?

04 April 2005, 04:03 PM (

...simpler weapon....vegetation on the marble stones on right (although not very clear here ...yet)...
And also trying to see some good angles for my final image....

I am starting on Amazon now ...

arghh ...arghhh....argh...

Comments and Crits are welcomed always.

04 April 2005, 04:11 PM
i think you should go whith the hair,but try to aprotch the hair like you have done whith the cloth, big swirling bits and thin swirling bits that twist around eihouther,
then some finer details in that.
same flow on it, like the cloth.(long hair)
see you and great work mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:15 PM
I really like the idea, and detail, I was just curious to know if you plan on posing the character differently. He seems a little stiff, and to uniform, meaning, that he looks like one side mirrored to the other, which is normal, but maybe just tilt the head, and distribute the weight. You may already be doing this, so otherwise I think the character looks really good, and love the weapon design.

04 April 2005, 04:18 PM

with the second version of hair (the shorter hair) , if you want hair, I think it's better than the first one, but my opinion is: it's looking better bald :)


04 April 2005, 04:29 PM
i agreee with alex.h. on the hair issue.. i mean for heavens sake he is a god.. his hair need to have some god like ability... lol

i really think u need to keep working on the camera angle... the composition in my book just when down a few points in my book... now i dont know how much a few points is yet but the point is it went the wrong way. this is nothing big... some of my best angles have all been hit and miss... u couldnt do like 5 diffent ones in thumbnail could u? i think that would really help.

ur modeling is awesome:thumbsup: :bounce:

04 April 2005, 04:46 PM
Baldly go where noman has gone before LOL:buttrock:

04 April 2005, 05:14 PM
Fantastic modeling! You've really nailed the character's anatomy, as well as the fabric and cloth. I agree with some of the other crits that the hair stands out right now. I like the earlier version of the image where the character has no hair at all. He looks more "god like" and threatening with a and clean head .. like Kurtz at the end of Apocalypse Now. Anyway, keep up the amazing work, everything (lighting, composition, background . .) is coming together very nicely. Alexi

04 April 2005, 05:28 PM
Looks better on every update dimi:)
Keep it up dude:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:38 PM
hay Dimitristhats lookin soo sweet so far !!.. definatly my favorite part is the cloak so far.. a cloak always looks killer... plus his pimped out neclace im dyin to see more !! cant wait for some textures .. its gonna be wicked !

04 April 2005, 09:36 PM
For the hairs, what about a bun ?

He would keep his mean look, which is an important asset.

btw first call in this thread, but you made it again Dimitri, very strong concept and top notch realization.

04 April 2005, 10:07 PM
ace4016 ...Bold he stays far as his pose ...welll ..i am not sure ....have u ever noticed Samurai warriors before attack....they don't move a muscle...also i think that this is shoing him more powerfull...but i will experiment on this.....thanks man


I know what you mean with the samurai thing and the power stance; but the samurai have a looser stance when then hold still (knees bent and such; their poses are static, but dynamic looking). Do what you have to do though, small tweaks to the current pose will be more then enough to lossen up Ares, at the same time show power (maybe its just that the head isn't looking down:shrug: ).

04 April 2005, 11:49 AM
Hi Dimi,
Looking AWESOME! canīt wait to see the girl :bounce::bounce:.

P.s: I like him more without hair (looks mor like a GOD)
PP.s: With all that testosterone in his body he has properly no single hair:) HA ha ha!

Keep on Modeling, your picture rocks!

04 April 2005, 11:55 AM
Very good job, prefer with no hair (with hair it looks like an advertisement for shampoo ;) )
Keep it up !

04 April 2005, 12:21 PM
nice nice:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:32 PM

or it got to look a world better than those early versions..

oh yea n the pic still rocks

04 April 2005, 03:11 PM
This is coming together very nicely!

As for the hair issue, I wouldn't leave him bald as I think hair could really work for him... Perhaps you could go for something a little more stylised - his hair could be made of light or flames... He is a God after all!

04 April 2005, 04:01 PM
Found Hair Solution

...wahhaaaaaaaaaaaa :scream: :scream: :scream: Squib ...Love ya man...heheheeh

P.S :...thanks guys ...i'll see what i will do...for now sorry for not answering to everybody..i really have to finish some work (..we got to eat

Cya :D

04 April 2005, 04:16 PM
:buttrock: now thats HAIR:buttrock: :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 04:18 PM
^^^ has definite potential :D :applause:

04 April 2005, 04:21 PM
Found Hair Solution

hahahah...:thumbsup: ...Squibbit is your inspiracion?...heheh

04 April 2005, 05:37 PM
ooo shiiaaat hahahahahaha aaargh

now it's a world different hahaha

craazy man crrraaazy

04 April 2005, 06:10 PM
• Wahhahahahah, good one Dim!

04 April 2005, 07:17 PM
AHHAahahah....arg ...arg .....weeeeeeeee.... :D :D :argh: :argh:

Squibbit ...u are a true inspiration man....hahahaha(love ya a manhood way of course...hhaha)

Still working friends...and i think it's gonna be aaalll night ....My G5 is on fiaiaiaiiiire ! :wip: :wip: updates yet...and i have the basic poly costruction of lady and i haven't got time to work on her :sad: :banghead:

04 April 2005, 07:20 PM
Oh the hideousness :scream: - Now bring on the amazons... but no snakes please :wise:

04 April 2005, 07:22 PM
or just post some more Squibbits :D

04 April 2005, 07:26 PM
I'm sure the amount of Squibbits already posted is more than ample :D

04 April 2005, 07:26 PM
or just post some more Squibbits :D

Ohhh hohohohho ...he is so lucky i have to work for a living this weekend....hhahaha

James A.K.A wabbit snakes...definitely :argh: :D ...argh ..argh.. argh

04 April 2005, 12:10 AM
uhm. hahahahahahahahahha, hahahahaa, muaaahahaha. uhm. hahaha. hi dimi. Hairy hairy. fabric and planty updates look awesome. hair... well... is a bit of problematic. master squibs hairstyle sort of fits him. but... how bout let him bald. i liked him that way, and for a greek god of war, a bald head doesnt look that bad. just dont make him bon jovi or europe, or peg bundy, or march simpson, sort of takes the serious part of him away heavyly. overthinking that... naaaah, go for it, looks fine! more hair more hair! jk. sure ya goin to find a nice hairstyle for him!
keep it nuts lord bubbles!

04 April 2005, 12:13 AM
ahahahahah yes yes very nice hair!!:bounce:

04 April 2005, 01:31 PM
Nice cloths and lighting. Good clean work good luck.

04 April 2005, 02:31 PM
Hairy suggestion number 2: make him a helmet.

Snapshot from the familly album, see, all his 6 bigger brothers loved hats!!!

04 April 2005, 02:41 PM
aaargh noo eviill

04 April 2005, 04:13 PM
hahaha :argh:

04 April 2005, 04:28 PM
What a family! I suggest to keep all 6 on the main composition :)!!!
Only question is-who is the dominating alpha male :)))
Good work!

04 April 2005, 04:30 PM
Bhaaaeheheh you madddd friend!!:bounce: this is fantasti pic. ahahahaha
increbible sooooo funny pictures...I saved this in my hardisk:)
huhuhuhuh:thumbsup: :applause:


04 April 2005, 10:40 PM
Wow, that's a pretty dramatic image so far! Some really good work, as always :)

04 April 2005, 09:36 AM
So its true what they say:

The village People are GODS?

Heh , LOL

04 April 2005, 09:59 AM
Wahahahahahaha :applause: too cool :D

04 April 2005, 10:18 AM
It's getting really nice Dim ! We want the next step !:scream:

04 April 2005, 10:38 AM (

....well my last main model starts ...i did some experimenting working with SubD's in XSI in the same workflow i work in Maya with Nurbs..i think i have come in a reasonable base mesh..i will tweak this very much now before i go to ZB....(probably pose it here in XSI too..not probable ..for sure..hehehe)
This is going to be more difficult me thinks..,
Comments and Crits are welcomed always...

04 April 2005, 10:51 AM
@ the1st_angel ..wahaaaaaa...Village People...ahahaahahah ..U ARE NUTS ...hahahahaah ...
:scream: ...i 'll get u for this ...hahahahahahaahhaha

@ Squibbit, lotaH, taavi, alexfalchi,...... :bounce: :thumbsup: ...

@ Leigh ...heeeyyy..hi crazy girl with the lovely hair..i see under your avatar (..maybe too late..sorry) that u are in CA it fun ? thanks Lady :)

@ sergioKomic ....bastard too...:scream:

@ flyingP ...i suspected that would like angel's post ...u PIG!:scream: (how are u man?)

@ gpepper friend the really hard part starts...i am always nervous when dealing with modeling a Woman.....let's hope i 'll make it descent...too tough 'cuase i am not yet too efficient in XSI as i could be in Maya....:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: ...but i am learning...argghhh...

04 April 2005, 10:53 AM
@ flyingP (how are u man?)

well turn your MSN sometime tonight and I'll give you the full rundown :D

04 April 2005, 11:01 AM
Nice work so far and good start on the female body (maybe the knees are a tad lower than normal..)... Very nice dimitri... I think that once you get the hang of XSI you will love it and work as efficiently as you do with maya... It's a great tool... But trying to tranfer the nurbs logics in subdivisions is madness... why would you like to make the process so complex? There are easier workarounds... As I said when i started this post... nice one:thumbsup:...

04 April 2005, 01:50 PM (

...working on her form ....also trying to see if i can easily pose her while i am in a reasonable polycount ..before i go to ZB....I started working more on ...heheheeh...what else ...her Butt...

Comments and crits are welcomed

04 April 2005, 03:16 PM modeling of the women so far, she's gonna be great :bounce:

04 April 2005, 03:39 PM
Woa! Nice butt, ... sorry, ... Topology!

04 April 2005, 04:10 PM
sheīs gonna look amazingly gorgeous :eek: are you z-brushing her too?

btw, I prefer him without hair, or with apache hat

04 April 2005, 04:24 PM
She is really cute, I mean, her body is really sexy ! even if she has no head... :argh:

04 April 2005, 04:35 PM
Thanks for posting wip wires, it's a nice way for me too learn the "how to" :thumbsup:

This is gonna be (hhum well, it is already...) AWESOME :bounce:

Btw, hope she'll have hairs ?

04 April 2005, 05:52 PM
Btw, hope she'll have hairs ?

on her butt ???? :surprised .....would at least be original though :D

04 April 2005, 06:11 PM
lol lol lol

a holy hairy butt, nothing divine lol !!! ah hmm yop definively original...

04 April 2005, 06:14 PM
lol lol lol

a holy hairy butt, nothing divine lol !!! ah hmm yop definively original...

indeed....dammit I want to see that now Dimitris :D

04 April 2005, 06:34 PM
Yes, Dimitris... hairy butt, or I will not be your friend anymore.

04 April 2005, 06:49 PM
@ Ila Solomon ....:scream:....:wavey:...haahaha ...good luck with your short film man...i will be waiting for it ...

@ bealobo ..:). i want her to look killer sexy she not ZBrushed ...still working in XSI ...
Thank Lady for your kind words....

@ ...The little bastardos Team there..A.K.A (Pig , Wabbit , gpepper, shtl, ..and everyody volunteering for this NUTS Force....hmm and all Crazy Frenchies:scream:)

....She will not have a hairy butt ....Greek women have stopped having hairy butts some decades now....Thanks to Cosmetic institute and Genetic progress :scream:...and MTV...LOL

..hmmm...but maybe i will try one version soon ...cuase i want wabbit to stay my friend (...bastard ...:scream:)

04 April 2005, 08:12 PM

It was that anotomia that I waited...heheheh

Very good.

04 April 2005, 08:19 PM
Keep it strong mate...goood model coming here!! like alot!:thumbsup:
I must sayd I looking "good AR...." Sorry:) :bounce:


04 April 2005, 08:27 PM
Nice modeling Dimitris! the mesh is very clean!!:applause:
Keep it up!

04 April 2005, 08:43 PM
Greek women have stopped having hairy butts some decades now...

yea but isn't this in ancient Greece?

forget I said that ,I got no desire whatsoever to see a hairy
butt anywhere :argh:

should just learn to shuddup...

04 April 2005, 11:31 PM
Guy looks great, the girl looks great... hell, everything of yours looks great, Dimitris. :applause:

Don't know if you decided on this issue or not, but I think Ares should remain bald; that look kinda defines and showcases him as a God to me (can't really explain why, it just does).

04 April 2005, 11:48 PM
great work on that bum, see you mate and :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:00 AM
..hmmm...but maybe i will try one version soon ...cuase i want wabbit to stay my friend (...bastard ...:scream:)[/i]

What ? Could there be a man between U and your muse ? :argh:

04 April 2005, 06:06 AM
• Looking good!, Waiting to see that girl! :bounce::bounce:

04 April 2005, 06:26 AM
Very nice so far dimitri... But stay off the hairy butt thing.... Yikesssssssssssssssss.... The idea is quite hmmmmmmmmmmm.. how should i put it.... .....vomiting..... you get the idea...

04 April 2005, 06:29 AM
But stay off the hairy butt thing.... Yikesssssssssssssssss.... The idea is quite hmmmmmmmmmmm.. how should i put it.... .....vomiting..... you get the idea...

yes but it would be funny :D :bounce:

04 April 2005, 06:32 AM
uhm. ok, i'll resist to post a hairy visualized comment here, just so far like the butt as well, without hair. uhm. exacly. hehe, go dimi go!!!

04 April 2005, 06:36 AM
Wahaaaa.....i think guys i will make two versions of her....

a) The homus FUR primitivus butt(us) lady :scream:

b) The homus Amazonus Sexus Butt(us) - delete hair - Lady :D

Good morning everybody (i 've finished a tv spot and now am a bit more free today to have fun)...


P.S : although i have to admit that the idea of a hairy butt really gives me the creeps...ahaahhaahahha

04 April 2005, 09:13 AM
So, you have some freetime.....Turn on man! We're watching!

04 April 2005, 09:14 AM
that's a nice piece of ***!
How about 2 slave (sexy as hell) amazons?
(or 3 or4)
come on everybody lets vote!

04 April 2005, 09:19 AM
O yes, Shaggy (hairy) slaves and bald gods ! :)

04 April 2005, 09:19 AM
Great modelling so far dimitris as always.Love the amazon. :D hope you win another award with this challenge.

04 April 2005, 12:14 PM
Hello Dimi!
Not having too much looked at what you made, not due to the lack of interest, but rather for lack of cruel of time, I try of me to catch : difficult thing ! :eek:
Things being what they are, your work is always magnificent, quite as your humor moreover.
In your creations emanate alwaysthis young something which makes that, every time we are surprised, in part the quality and the humanity of each of them : bravo ! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:56 PM
Hi Dimitris, Great modelling as always. cant wait to see another update of the amazon :D I hope you win another award with this challenge. Did you decide about the hairs on ares? I think he should have long hair, but this is just my opinion. Great going.

04 April 2005, 02:15 PM (

...still working from the waist down...fixed her ..ehmm..bikini with chains to hold it ....Not many edge loops added (5-8) here and there and mostly still trying to fix her form more without increasing poly count more...I plan to work more on her back side all over and less in front since it won't be much visible...

Comments and Crits always welcomed...

04 April 2005, 02:18 PM
Italian words : :bounce: :buttrock: :love: :thumbsup:

English words : Ho my gordless this is very sexyyy :love: loveeeeee. Dimitris nice work my friend!!


04 April 2005, 02:23 PM
omg!! Now thats i greek girl i recorgnized her as soon as i layed eyes on that beatiful behind :p. Great modelling so clean.

04 April 2005, 02:23 PM
Nice butt!

Clean tweaks too!


But there's no hair yet as far as I can see! Maybe you made it fully transparent so we can't see it?

04 April 2005, 03:37 PM
Coming along real nice! You have a great sense of proportions and musculature. Nice work! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:09 PM
She become really really nice ! Good idea ! I vote for the string ! :bounce:

04 April 2005, 04:35 PM
Since I doubt you're gonna make here face ugly, now it's for sure: Ares must be gay! How can he stays so calm in front of a girl like that? I mean even knowing it's only polys i'm already falling in love with her :) .... (well from what i know of her ?!?)

Man you're good. :applause:

Matter of taste maybe, but i would have make her a more rounded ass in the low part of it...
I won't dare to touch your pics but maybe you see my point?
Well trying to be constructive, but you don't seems to need any help anyway, at least from me...
So good continuation :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 04:40 PM
Hi Dimi! wow man she is pretty cute :love:keep on going man I'm accompanying.

04 April 2005, 04:40 PM
Clean tweaks too!

so that's what you call them :D

definitely not shaggy though :)

04 April 2005, 06:15 PM
Hi Dimitri,

I see you got into the fun part.Nice modeling.Great progress,waiting to see the final concept finished:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:14 PM
Since I doubt you're gonna make here face ugly, now it's for sure: Ares must be gay! How can he stays so calm in front of a girl like that? .....

Well, a lot of Greek gods where bi-sexual, and had affairs with men never know:rolleyes: .

Great job on the girl Dimi. I think maybe you need to add more definition to the stomach, but I'm guessing you are having too much fun at the buttocks:D .

04 April 2005, 09:36 PM

Dimi i love the clean works and your work it is really clean
Fine wire frame :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


04 April 2005, 10:17 PM
Super great work, I really like it alot and her a.. looks realy nice :scream:


04 April 2005, 12:33 AM
i like her posterior

Zlatan B.
04 April 2005, 08:05 AM
Sweet view... I mean model:thumbsup: ...awesome work. Great modeling. Very clean. Cannot wait to see the final.

04 April 2005, 12:31 PM (

...progress on her body....
..feet are from the model of feet i made from ARES...but eased down with inflat and sculpt in ZB and some scaling....i don't think i need to bother more since the final angle is hiding a lot of them...(maybe i will leave her without sandals though so show some detail there )...
I made chain cords for holding her ...cloths and the the small parts of armor for leg and arm (very early wip there)....

04 April 2005, 12:45 PM (

...posting the angle also we will see her and the ref of angle i will model..

I am posting this 'cuase as u can see in prec post i am not working much at her belly and front part in general...

Comments and crits are always welcomed...

04 April 2005, 12:53 PM
heyyy thats a great body:thumbsup:
a minor critic would be to finish it and send moooore:scream: cant wait to see this model posed:bounce:
go on go on

04 April 2005, 12:57 PM
Hey ...guys ...once more i am soory i am not answering to each one of u separately ..but i reall am working like crazy ..( i am happy i found an hour to tweak a bit this wip )...

Thanks for all comments and crits ..and No ..Ares is not Gay ....hahahaha...James butt is ready but i am away of that pc right now ...hehehehe.....Face ..yes i will try to make beautifull if i can....Stomach and front in general will be very basicly tweaked 'cuase in final image her back will be visible and i really have very few time to get in not visible detailing this time...sorry for that...:shrug: i am focusing to anything absolutely necessary for the making of the image and only that......

Cya to run again....:bounce:

04 April 2005, 01:10 PM
so i am focusing to anything absolutely necessary for the making of the image and only that......
I assume this means you will not model the interior of the anterior posterior?

04 April 2005, 01:10 PM
have seem your homeimage like your works hope you can win the challenage

04 April 2005, 01:13 PM
Hey Dimi, we have almost the same body pose about our female characters. It's really exciting to me and am really courious your way of soultions. I will check back later! Cya :wavey: Have a slow day!

04 April 2005, 01:13 PM
anterior posterior?

and you say you don't know a word like "decanter"


04 April 2005, 01:14 PM
and you say you don't know a word like "decanter"
Can't expect me to remember every single funny word I encounter :shrug:

04 April 2005, 01:43 PM (

...Thought i post this for educational reasons...also 'cause it was a happy surprise for my eyes too...

Weght editor in XSI with the use of the ready made female(in app) skeleton...

Weighting is fun...weeeeeeeee....

04 April 2005, 01:48 PM
Weighting IS fun! This is looking very good so far. Your weight painting looks fine. This model is looking extremely sexy.:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:49 PM
I assume this means you will not model the interior of the anterior posterior?

....:eek: ...wht the heck did u say...didn't understand a single word.....?!?...hahahahah

anterior-posterior....bubbleirior.....sbaraquak! :scream:

hi Piggy ! :) ..i think wabbit has many anterior-posterior-decanter ..sbaraquaks (?!?!?!) (what did i say ?...what did i say?) :scream: :D

Hi Tremo ! ....:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:52 PM
wow , sexy model! love the anatomy of model! I see that you switch to xsi , I want to know is it great? how do u feel compare to maya? I get a copy of xsi essential from last challenge but no time to use it , and found that it's more popular , so I want to know your opionion ........

04 April 2005, 02:36 PM
:love: :love: nice!! nice!!

04 April 2005, 11:30 PM
Great update Dimitris. Love the amazon so far. Cant wait to see her face and hair. I love the concept u made with her down like that. Nice of you to show as the Weighting of the amazon. I worked with is for the first time in maya painting the joints of a model i was working on. Its so much fun you forget who the time flys by. :D :D :D . Great work keep it up!!

04 April 2005, 06:00 AM
We all want women like this at home ! :bounce: :cry:

04 April 2005, 06:19 AM
gpepper , it's a headless thing without hands and feet ...:sad:

04 April 2005, 08:28 AM
Oh, sorry, I didn't see... an ass is an ass... oups, sorry again...:D

04 April 2005, 10:58 AM (

Finishing is the low poly of hand too..(tried to make it posed too..argghhh..) i will work on hands more in ZB just for winning a bit more time.....

The thing on her (as it is in concept) is leaving and the smaller err..bracelets get in ....i deleted that big one 'cuase it made her look out of topic...(too tech lines)...

C&C are welcomed...

04 April 2005, 11:06 AM (

..and the rest of views (including the one that will be visible in final image)
so far...

C&C are welcomed.

P.S ; Trying to pose her last night in XSI has given me some ideas for a better composition in final image...i will post my ideas soon for comments..i think it will be more dramatic if Ares is higher on 2-3 stairs over the level of Amazon's floor...(i hope it makes sence..)

04 April 2005, 11:25 AM
@ monsitj ... thanks friend..i am happy u like her so far. About XSI...i didn't exactly switch from Maya...Maya is for me more than just a tool(i like the way the app is layed out for the user) but when XSI Foundation came out with that price ..i thought i should try it..and i must say i am veeeery happy for this's a very strong app...Poly-SubD modeling is i must admit too much fun here and fast...also between two apps u can move forth and back easily ....i like XSi and i have used it for many works up to now the last four's not too different from Maya i think once u get the idea where everything is , u are ok with it ( don't like too much the dynamics it has , Maya's seem more strong to me at least), Weighting the geometry over a skeleton seems more easy and fun at least up to now...hehehe...The main reason for only using XSI in this challenge is to learn it better....The most challengig part will be the skinning and then texturing and lighting for all of this for the final, there i will have to study very hard and also this makes me move slower forward in producing the final image.....But up to now it feels like home ...:) . Hope this helps although i am newbie in the app up to now...:argh:

@ alexfalchi, Agamemnwn ....:) :bounce: :thumbsup:

@ gpepper, Squibbit ...hahahah..i love to see conversations over a matter like a digital a$$ ..hahaha :beer: ..well now she has legs and arms...missing head still

04 April 2005, 12:11 PM
great stuff...mate ! :thumbsup: really..your models looks so nice.model`s anatomy is good'i think.all other elements of your progress is going very well..details are pretty:) again i`m looking forward to see your next update!

04 April 2005, 02:08 PM
I'm folowing this threat since you started, and I must say:
- you are a very good modeler
- the proportions are great, she's so feminine
- and I'm glad to heare your impression about Maya. I don't know how XSI works, but I'm working in Maya and I must say it: is the most powerfull tool known to me. :)

Keep it up like this... and...:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:11 PM
Very nice figure man,... only thing I see is the back of the knees and the elbows could be more defined :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:29 PM
Dimitri you rock :thumbsup: She IS feminine, and your mod is so clean.
Miam I'd like to touch, grab her hip, but mmm no... I wont put my hand on my screen :) and Ares even bald seems to be stronger than i am! And he's got a big wepon too... Well since you dropped his killer hairs...
Ok now it depends on her face :) but i trust you'll find another way to make me regret not beeing a poly myself :D

and once again thanks for taking time to post wip images to, very helpfull :thumbsup:

keep it up!

04 April 2005, 03:36 PM
I wasnīt commenting here because I donīt want to say just whatīs obvious, that it is amazing and your polygon workflow is smooth and so... :arteest:

So... :twisted: is it me or is her hand a little small? I canīt tell for sure as the head is not in there yet, but the side view gave me that impression.

Keep up!!!

04 April 2005, 04:02 PM
Great renaissance from Maya to XSI Dimi!!

Is that weighing is on the vertices and gives vertices different weight according to the color???
And is this weight affects the final 'posture' of the figure?

I want to understand!

04 April 2005, 04:52 PM
Geia sou Dimitri :)

Parakolou8w kairo twra thn douleia pou kaneis kai einai korufh... :) Congrats! :D
As far as the model goes, it looks stunning... The proportions are right, but as u have defined some muscles specially at the legs, u have got to work in the front of view of the upper leg (without the armour)... It looks as it needs some smoothing there, and definition of the muscle... I dont know at what kind of detail you re going for, but if it's going to be as "deep" as the feet (veins and all), then the back of the legs (joint area, pisw apo ta gonata) need to be better defined! :)

Kane kai ton popo pio sthto nte! :P


04 April 2005, 06:27 PM
Mia xara einai o popos !!! :scream:

Nice work Dimitri !!

04 April 2005, 09:03 PM
great model man, looking forward to seeing a head on it !:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:46 PM (

...Zbrushed face of Ares in order to produce the face of Mina (Amazon)


04 April 2005, 11:48 PM (

...Zbrushed face of Ares in order to produce the face of Mina (Amazon)


04 April 2005, 11:52 PM (

...Zbrushed face of Ares in order to produce the face of Mina (Amazon)

quarter view...

I tried to produce from ARES face the face of Mina. I used inflat , move , scale and smooth .....

I think it has an interesting first result...

Comments and crits always welcomed...

04 April 2005, 12:07 AM
@ goktug, el_newty ....:beer::beer:

@ Kanga ...thanks man...all this will be worked out in ZB for speed and precision...i am working now in final compo and the pose of her so everything before final detailing of her depends on her pose first :)

@ shtl ....hey man thanks...i am happy u like it . By the way i am becoming a crazy fan of your work ..seen your wip with the city and the samurai....OLALA! :buttrock:

@ bealobo ... thanks Lady...about hand maybe it's a bit of both (view and size)..i will look at it more tommorow...but maybe u are right and it needs to be a little bit bigger :thumbsup:

@ maranello55 ...hi my friend ...yes u are correct it's weighting ..every different color represents how the bone beneath affects the geometry above it 's a visual help to see how every bone affects the model and it helps u refine the final result of how the skeleton moves the model....:)

@ Constantinos ...thanks friend...more details will be done in ZBrush for more precision and speed after posing her...i will detail only the visible parts of her....(Mia xara einai o popos ...ama paei ligo pio pano tha ginei mayrouka h amazona...heheheh....sou aresoun oi poly psilokoles mou fenete ..hahahahaha). Thanks for the kind words man...:)

@ petsoukos ,,,,:beer::beer:

@ eddieellis u are friend ...hope u like it ..:)

04 April 2005, 02:23 AM
Awesome modeling as usual. I particularly like her feet, very nicely done.:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:01 AM
She is really nice!! The body is amazing :eek:
My only critic is about the ears .. in the front view is too flat ... but
ofcurse if she have a hair or something like it, wil be ok like this ...:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:29 AM (

..thought i stop before posing Amazon and detailing her body to ZB ...just to see what the composition should look like...

so here is a thought with Amazon in place ..her final pose will be more expressional and dramatic but forgive me i just didn't hve time to tweak her weighting more....but i think u can get the general idea....

Comments and crits are welcomed.

04 April 2005, 12:29 PM
Ok... Now that's quality! :D

It reminds me of the Cell for some reason... (that was a brilliant Softimage movie wasnt it?)
Well, Z-brush is gonna give that extra edge that is missing (even though that its not missing much)... A more dramatic camera angle would b better (is it too early to crit that?), as there's much information in the pic and im -only slightly- not sure where to focus (amazon or Ares?
Keep up the perfect work Dimitri, some day i wish i can reach that standard...

PS Afou einai wraies oi psilokwles! :P Twra ama ginei kai san mayrouka den 8a einai kai asxhma...xaxaxa... To cloth pou exeis kanei den paizetai... Etsi mou rxetai na afhsw to LW kai na ksanarxisw to Softimage... :D

Eipame... /respect :)

04 April 2005, 12:48 PM
Thanks guys...really motivating...

@ Constantinos ...yup is inspired as action a lot from the CELL ...heheheh ...wabbit has discovered that very quick...:) ...the crazy nutto :scream:

04 April 2005, 12:49 PM
Hello Dim!
Thanks for your kind words, since i'm great fan of your work and skills it touch me a lot so :) and :thumbsup:

Updates are as interessing technicaly as great artistically :bounce:
The comp is cool that way. BUT ! I humbly think that her left arm should go more in her back, just as she would fall back and use it to stop her fall (excuse my poor english). Plus you'll get a diagonal direction from left hand -->shoulder -->head of mina --> right arm/hand ------> Ares


well depends of a lot of things, first the purpose of the feeling of unstability you want to give her....?

and i know you are not yet on the illumination, but maybe you'll might use the back ray of light to illuminate points of the comp, kind of backlight, like Ares head and armory, Mina right hand, shoulders, hips and head....? suggestions only :)

good continuation :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:53 PM
Hello Dim!
Thanks for your kind words, since i'm great fan of your work and skills it touch me a lot so :) and :thumbsup:

Updates are as interessing technicaly as great artistically :bounce:
The comp is cool that way. BUT ! I humbly think that her left arm should go more in her back, just as she would fall back and use it to stop her fall (excuse my poor english). Plus you'll get a diagonal direction from left hand -->shoulder -->head of mina --> right arm/hand ------> Ares


well depends of a lot of things, first the purpose of the feeling of unstability you want to give her....?

and i know you are not yet on the illumination, but maybe you'll might use the back ray of light to illuminate points of the comp, kind of backlight, like Ares head and armory, Mina right hand, shoulders, hips and head....? suggestions only :)

good continuation :thumbsup:

i am glad u said all this ...'cuase u are right and that is my thought...but i couldn't just say all that with this post ..but u are right ...especially for Mina's pose ...thanks friend..:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:06 PM
Good position of the woman, the composition will be good as it I think, I have a small idea, for the movement, you should make the hand of the woman, the one who carried the sword, the palm green the height opened and towards the ground, to give the impression that the sword has just fallen and that the hand is still tilted by the weight of the sword. I do not know if I explained well my English being really some shit

04 April 2005, 01:08 PM
Thanks MDN67 ..i am thinking a lot about that hand...but your idea is something i will surely try ...thanks friend :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:16 PM
this is gonna be a great piece :thumbsup:
NIce work dimi:bounce:

04 April 2005, 01:23 PM
wow ur putting so much into this and so many ppl are getting so much out of ur work... u should be proud!! the composition looks soooo much better than i did when the sceen was incomplete (obviously) but it think everything is layed out accordingly... some tweaking of course.

i hvnt observed ur last few updates for the amount of time they deserve so i wont comment on those small tweaks but i will come back in the next day or so to inspect:hmm: so get to it :wip: lol

great work man truly great to watch this come along... but it aint over yet!!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:09 PM (

...Amazon Mina so far...i must think her hair solution (probably Maya Paint FX converted to Poly's and imported to XSI ) , after pose her and take her to ZBrush for fine detailing and corrections on her body.....arghhh....

Comments and crits are welcomed always

04 April 2005, 02:13 PM
its great! very nice composition! loved the mood of ur scene!

04 April 2005, 02:31 PM
Wow your work has come along nicely. Like the motion being generated by the flowing fabric and shapes. Your short hair concept was good. Just give him a crown of some sort that relates to the style of his belt or sword like thing. Try it.

04 April 2005, 02:33 PM
he he he nice work dude, great use of existing model / face..... cheeky !

04 April 2005, 02:38 PM (

Mina's RIG using the ready skeleton from XSI.,...i had to adjust some bones to come to my model's dimensions...some nulls are not needed for my purpose but it dosn't bother me either...

So i move to the next step of skinning her and adjusting weights.

04 April 2005, 03:01 PM
Everything looks amazing Dimitris and the final scene completely brings out the essence of master and servant. as constantinos said. respect is in order.

P.S Perito na sou pw oti eisai theos etsi? EInai eunoito nomizw. :D :D

04 April 2005, 03:17 PM
...No man ...u make me :blush: :blush: :blush: :blush: ..but thanks for the kind words!:bounce:

04 April 2005, 03:56 PM
hi mate...i think the girl model is really hot...the back side is really cool...LOL...

good job Dimi...

man i think the shoulders looks tense...maybe u can move them a bit down so they look more relaxed , more natural...thats in my point of view, but remember my anatomy knowledge is not the best around so mybe im wrong about just trying to help a bit:)

04 April 2005, 11:07 PM
very impressive and powerful work :applause: :applause:

04 April 2005, 02:31 AM
are u tellin me that u usually work in
Maya but happened to skip into
XSI for fun new stuff?

kinda like a worldclass runner deciding
to take up skiing too and excelling in

04 April 2005, 11:02 AM
are u tellin me that u usually work in
Maya but happened to skip into
XSI for fun new stuff?

kinda like a worldclass runner deciding
to take up skiing too and excelling in

You're wright man! well kinda prouve that when s-o is good, he's just good no matter the soft he use ...?
Dimitris has a lot of tools to express himself, guess he'll find out wich is the most appropriated for his style of images? Plus now the skinning part wich is if i truely understanded can sometime be very different in each soft....? so Dimitris how is it going this rig under xsi? Little update soon? And hairs? xsi as cool plugs for that?

keep it up :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:10 AM
Dimitris... :applause: really nice to follow your progress !

04 April 2005, 12:23 PM
everything is looking really good my freind DIMI... her hands r a bit too small as i can c. and i think her face is a bit too musculine... if u keep her looking really feminie then the contrast in ur cene can give ur piece a good edge.. but its just me., dont take my words for granted. keep up the good works :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:42 PM
Very nice piece of As... euh... I mean... of Art ! ...inspiring !! :)

good luck !


04 April 2005, 12:48 PM (

The Bubble hair solution...

1 _ U go to your work afterhours and import OBJ head to Maya Unlimited ..hhehhe
2 _ U call the Hair solution Maya has ..

3_ U tweak that and convert it to polys

4 _ u see your file is too big...u do it
5 _ U leave happy from work...hehehe
6_ U export hair as obj XSI
7 _ U call Push OP to inflat them a bit look more...

8 _ U save model ....happy man...

I hope u find my solution helpfull....


Comments and Crits are welcomed....

04 April 2005, 12:56 PM (

...and Amazon Lady so far....

I know it has a lot of mistakes in Clavicle and shoulders....and behind knees. Thank u guys for for the help...i am going to tweak all mistakes after posing her and exporting her Model to will be a funny

Thanks for all comments ...please continue..u 've all helped a lot so far.

04 April 2005, 01:05 PM
Thnx for tutor :) DimitrisLiatsos

04 April 2005, 02:07 PM
Really Really nice Dimitris, i can't find something to crit, the hair works great, did you attached him to a UV set of head or on another surface... ?...maybe a stupid question but i got some bad stuff happening when i attach them directly on the model for me...:shrug:

Great work as usual, continue to impress us my friend :applause:

04 April 2005, 02:24 PM
nice Hair cut:scream:
looking hot and sexy:bounce:

04 April 2005, 02:51 PM
damn shes a hottie.. dude.. hair looks awesome such a smart way to do it. Greeat work dim .. you obviously addressed the probs with your mesh so i have no crits .. only compliments on a fine girl you have on your hands hmmm.... good luck with further progress

04 April 2005, 06:43 PM
Nice hair. How is that going to render? Hope it doesn't take days to render out the final shot.
I like the anatomy you have so far. The only thing that bothers me is her arm band. It looks like you extruded polys from a cylinder you cut lines into. It comes across too mushy in my opinion.
Good work so far.

04 April 2005, 08:09 PM ( ..i couldn't resist the fun...i went to tweak her details and correct some hard mistakes...

...thisis too much fun....arghhhh

04 April 2005, 08:13 PM (

...and back to XSI ...(only cloths and stuff, i used them in ZB before just to know how to sculpt some point on body)..

She goes texturing now (my first serious texturing in XSI...gasp) i think and posing slowly now...

Fixed hands ..yes they were small...sorry about that and thanks for noticing...

Comments and crits always welcomed.

04 April 2005, 08:28 PM
@ Squibbit.... :beer:..nooo man..u are too kind..i am just learning.....

@ smaddl,jddog, Neeno , Mr Micro26... hey thanks guys...:beer:

@ shtl ... hi firend...rigging under XSI is not much different i think from what i have seen so far ...but i bet it has it's secrets if someone digs deeper(which i intend to's too early to say much but skinning the character (weighting) is soooo fun..and fast i think...i like it has many stuff to explore and that is most fascinating...:buttrock:

@ Maxko ...u are most welcome friend...

@ cipher the hair my friend are not attached to head....they have their own mapping ..and maybe if they produce heavy render then they will be rendered in a different pass...:)

@ Rook ..hheheh..i know what u mean...i don't know some tests i did , they render fast (hair)...but if they increase too much the render time i will render them in a different any case this is a fast solution for a static image production mainly ..not for an i will render it separately if it gives me a headache...thanks friend.
Arms..yup u are right i will do only what nessecary in ZBrush after posing her...i have that in mind though....thanks man :beer:

04 April 2005, 10:06 PM
She looks very good of course :thumbsup:

As far as the hair goes... well, either hair is the new boot :D or I'll just hang around here until I see what it looks like when you're made a decent render of her.

04 April 2005, 11:11 PM
going better! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:18 PM
Hey, great model. Keep going. :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:19 AM
How can I say... Windy haircut !

04 April 2005, 10:47 AM
yop i think i'm in love :) with her funky wild haircut :thumbsup:
nice play! keep it up :)

04 April 2005, 12:13 PM (

...started experimenting on her skin SSS funky stuff (i am still experimenting in MAYA with SSS..i surely can't figure this out yet in

Shader with two phong materials and incidense from mixing them set to 1.9...

I am still trying to figure out the clusters for diferrent projections on the same model....maybe i should break it in different pieces and then patch it up again...arghhh ...mind bubbling...
Skip belly button UV's ..need fixing...
what do u thing of shader?

Comments and Crits are most welcomed...

(bangs head on desk....arghhh)

04 April 2005, 12:20 PM
umm , how's "wow" for a change ?

04 April 2005, 12:30 PM
looks great dimitris, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:34 PM
I like shader.. good work DimitrisLiatsos.. :)

04 April 2005, 12:42 PM
I think it looks real good.But a touch too plastic still.I can't come to this level of skin myself,I cant help you to get it more real,less plastic.But it's close to getting there.Just perhaps less specular?This might lose the plastic look.Still good work.:)

04 April 2005, 01:02 PM
I can NOT believe I actually read through your thread!! Alot of reading there was!

But I must admit that it was not just enjoyable to look at your updates, but also to read the in betweens (Not only your typo's don't worry)
Your work is so far amazing! Everything is so glorious and fitting to your concept. This is actually just a small note of compliments to make sure I get to follow up on your progress.

Oh wait.. I liked your skin shader alot, but I think a little bit more noise in your specularity might triger things up.. it sort of looks creamy inspite what the colour and bump/displacement suggests.


Edit; Aparently Kylebrn has sort of said a simiallar thing... sorry

04 April 2005, 01:28 PM
Hi Dimitri,I like your concept.The body of amazon looks great,,only,,what you probably know allready,the chains that keep her panties on,,they need to be tweaked,and other little thingies,and for the skin,,well,your needs to be done,, cos it is in the wip,,Id be happy if my skin looks like this after Im finished. :) :)

04 April 2005, 01:38 PM
great skin tone... almost perfect... actually i think it is;)

04 April 2005, 02:36 PM
ho nice work mate!! love it!!

04 April 2005, 03:14 PM
AMAZING!!! :applause: :applause: :applause:


04 April 2005, 03:34 PM (

...i finally sliced the all body to pieces in order to place the projection i wanted everywhere...maybe there is an easier way...but now the path has been here is the fornt with some adjustments and also the back ...keep in mind that the lights are very fast placed...i think the shaders will need extra adjustmen when i place her in final scene ....

....comments and crits are most welcomed...

04 April 2005, 03:37 PM
very sexy:):) i like it!!!

04 April 2005, 03:47 PM
@ Squibbit ...:bounce::bowdown:...thanks man....i am happy u like her..

@ alex.h., Maxko ...thanks guys...:beer:

@ Kylebrn, BlackDidThis ..thanks friends....u maybe right...i have lowered a bit specular..but i am keeping some more tweaking when it is in final scene (new light setup)...i am it's gonnabe needed....again ...:argh:.

@ A I R ...thanks friend..done some tweking on chains this better now?...:beer:

@ tilite, alexfalchi, el_newty ....:beer::wavey:

04 April 2005, 04:01 PM
You are one fast son of a gun.But i stil see the last chain link on front merging with
girls soft browny delicious skin. :) :) :) .
But that's not so obvious,so U can let it be or U can get the lucky chain link and,(I say lucky cos she rests on that thigh I would like rest to),and repair it,,,
keep em posting pal... :)

04 April 2005, 04:17 PM
Nice work on the girl Dimitris :thumbsup:. This thread is looking real cool :cool: so far.

I'd do a double check on her shoulder blades. Guess their visibility depends how strong she is...

04 April 2005, 05:20 PM
more great work mate, the back is as great as the front, see you and looking forvard for more, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:34 PM
Congratulations Dimitri, perfect modeling and skin...

Good Luck!

04 April 2005, 05:54 PM
hey dim textures looking fine justa better light rig and its nothing but next to perfect.. great progress dude..

04 April 2005, 06:05 PM
hey buddy, haven't checked your thread lately, I see you're still doing great! :thumbsup:
For some reason, the bumps (I believe?) are doing something weird to the stomack and for the back it's looking very smooth..too smooth for the textures. I'd think that the stomack should have very smooth skin and it looks a bit too hard (bump wise). But then again, I'm not sure if it's the bump doing that, but just a thought. Great job on the female modelling, I find it quite a challenge to model many subtleties, sure is a change from modelling centaurs hehe keep it coming! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:17 PM (

...arghghh...My wife just throw me a book on the head ...she thought i was in a porn site or something....HAHAHAHAHAHAH.... here is also the butt-texturing and legs.....

Moving on....argh!

Comments and Crits are most welcomed.

04 April 2005, 06:30 PM
Its really very beautiful bravo dimi !
The skin adorned little transpiring : that produces very well almost re-confine to bed!
We see although kept silent mastery ! :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 06:37 PM
Amazon ----> more like Amaze-on. New update looks sweet...all it need now is more defined neck muscles at the back.

04 April 2005, 06:39 PM
Hehe, top class work with texturing! I like the skin tone very much..

Yeah, cgtalk can be very dangerous, i have also gotten much angry glances from my mom, when she sees me watching very realistic female model without clothes..

04 April 2005, 06:44 PM
Wow ! great shader Dimitris ! really cool stuff ! :thumbsup:
Is it a procedural texture or is it bitmap ?

04 April 2005, 06:51 PM
hahhhahaha good job dimitrius..

porn site.. auhauha takee offf all !! we what to see.. :eek:
heheh great job.. best luck ! c ya !

04 April 2005, 06:55 PM
hey dimitris.. u have some tuto to do this shader in XSI ?
plzz show me. or tell me how u do this. thnxxx.

c ya !

04 April 2005, 07:04 PM
Dimitris, your work is impressive...:eek:
The girl model is my favorite, amazing work man
Good luck!!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:11 PM
great work dimi! real belivable skin! :D btw did u know that amazons didn`t have one teet :D

04 April 2005, 07:39 PM
@ flaeticia ....:beer::wavey::beer:..hello Frenchy are u?....progressing?

@ 3dRaven ...thanks man..i know ...but i will pose her when finish texturing and then i will sculpt any more nessecary errors....:thumbsup:

@ apekki ...hahahah..thanks man...

@ gpepper ... No procedural my friend...Just two phong shaders with texture on color (and also checked to produce 0.1 factor bump) of one of them and an incidense Node to mix those two to the im_shader (to camera Direction)....i will make an image with all that and another one with textures used....;)

@ gra7 ...thanks tut in XSI man ...i am a newbie in XSI...but as i said to gpepper , i will post tonight 2 images showing all done for her texturing....thanks man

@ Maxter ..u are most kind ..thank u .:)

@ markovicd ...hahaha i know ..they had one teet so they use Bow more efficiently..but i am not cutting any teet here ..i her with both...heheheheh:scream:

04 April 2005, 07:43 PM
hahaha i know ..they had one teet so they use Bow more efficiently..but i am not cutting any teet here ..i her with both...heheheheh:scream:

oh go on...and a hairy butt :bounce: :D

04 April 2005, 07:46 PM
AHAHHAHAHAHA....Hairy butt comes tommorow after work...hahahah ...i will bring to home a model with hairy butt so we cal all ...bliaaahhh....together...HAHAHAHAHA

....p.s ; u found a flash light or torch?...ahahaha.......u found the big monster or not yet ...the one with the creepy flying ...i stop....hahahah..i won't spoil it for ya..heheheheh

04 April 2005, 07:49 PM
>>....p.s ; u found a flash light or torch?

not yet

>>u found the big monster or not yet

just bloody Hell Knights.....big, mean, resist anything and I can hardly see them :scream:

04 April 2005, 08:04 PM
>>....p.s ; u found a flash light or torch?

not yet

>>u found the big monster or not yet

just bloody Hell Knights.....big, mean, resist anything and I can hardly see them :scream:

I know some codes u could type for all weapons and full ammo :scream:...want me to dig them up...hahahahah ??!?

04 April 2005, 08:15 PM
I know some codes u could type for all weapons and full ammo :scream:...want me to dig them up...hahahahah ??!?


although I am already in "wuss mode" :blush:

Black Rose
04 April 2005, 08:35 PM
Wowwww ;) nice skin and model! I like it very much !!! You have good syle ;)

04 April 2005, 09:08 PM
Nice form on the model for an Amazon.

Textures are not bad right now, but it seems to be too clean. Usually. these women would have rougher skin and maybe even throw in a few scratches and scars or so. I love the texture details on the belly that you did and the musclature of the back. But one thing that bothers me are her clothes. The thong and the bra seems to be too hard and sharp. I suggest you model in a crease on her skin where the bra and thong straps on. This would show a better belongingness throught out the picture. Shadows will help too.

orion 77
04 April 2005, 09:14 PM
when am i taking your model for a drink? the skin shader is very good but id prefer the breasts to be bigger myself :)

04 April 2005, 09:29 PM
Hi Dimi.

Very ... very cool work on the body and textures!

There is only one thing that looks a bit strange 4 me at the moment.
The upper part of the body looks like the body from a sportswoman, and the lower part more like a woman who don,t went to the gym very often. Looks a bit that he is only training her upper muscles. (i like more the lower part... looks more feminine ;) but that is personal view ;) ) You can try to make her upper body less muscularly or the lower part a bit more then it would be fit perfect together... but thatīs up to you ;)

Nethertheless she looks awesome! and i like her face. Do you know Adrienne Barbeau (The Fog - John Carpenter) looks a bit similar to her!

Great Work Man!
Donīt stop rocking :buttrock:

04 April 2005, 10:11 PM
OMG this is fantastic texturing:thumbsup: .
U re not using voodoo instead of software are u?
:bounce: :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:38 PM
hi Dimitri!
what can I say.... NOTHING! I was shocked! Iīm still shocked! it looks soooooooo good!
ok! hereīs one: is that a uv texture (image map), a procedural mix...?
youīre using XSI, right?

04 April 2005, 10:54 PM ( is what i have promised to my friend gpepper and the rest of u who want to see the procedure i went's not the smartest ..but i am trying to find my way in XSI so forgive me any mistakes...

...c&c are welcomed

04 April 2005, 11:35 PM
great dimitris.. i dont use xsi very much.. but i have shure that this will help me. !! thnxxx..

c ya !