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03-22-2005, 08:07 AM
Aly Fell has entered the Master and Servant 2D.

Challenge Page (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/masterandservant/view_entries.php?challenger=5790)

Latest Update: Final Image: Bad Kitty!
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1116493336_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1116493336_large.jpg)

Well I think this is it! I could go on tweaking till the end of time, and I think my problem was I still hadn't decided what time of day it was in the kitchen so I was adjusting values that were changed next time I looked at it! Der...

But now it feels like the end of 'Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade', with Indiana Jones reaching out for the holy grail, and Sean Connery quietly saying... "Let it go Indiana, let it go..." So now is time to let it go, with all its faults.

Thankyou everyone for stopping by, giving me encouragement and very valuable crits. You don't know how much I appreciate it! :)

Right... now it's time to ftp!

Edit:Ooops! A story:

"Mistress came home really early from ‘Scratchies’ nightclub, to find Kitty had been playing with her clockwork mouse in the kitchen when she should have been tidying the house! Bad Kitty! After she had been told she could only play with it outside too... tut tut! And to make matters worse, she'd spilt the milk... all over the kitchen floor! Stopping short of rubbing her nose in it, mistress commanded Kitty to clean it up... NOW! And properly mind, or it'll be six of the best and a night in the backyard with Crispin, her Alsatian, who doesn't like cats! Mistress is secretly pleased, though, because she needed the floor cleaning anyway.... But Kitty, although fed up with having to scrub in yellow marigolds (her least favourite colour) is secretly pleased as well, because she knows she'll do a really bad job... and to be honest, she kind of likes the look of the crop in mistress’s hand... The thing is though, Mistress knows this..."

03-22-2005, 08:09 AM
welcome and good luck :thumbsup:

03-22-2005, 08:10 AM
Thankyou MDN67! I'm incredibly excited about this one! :D My first and a very intersting topic as well...

03-22-2005, 08:11 AM
Good luck.

03-22-2005, 08:24 AM
Good luck Aly!!


03-22-2005, 08:30 AM
Thanks Aly - good luck to you too however I am not sure if you actually need it ;)

03-22-2005, 12:04 PM
Whee! This is me cheering you on. I have a feeling this will be excellent.

03-22-2005, 12:36 PM
I believe you will come up with a really cool concept as usual, Aly. I will follow your process with excitement... :-)

03-22-2005, 01:12 PM
Ey oop, thankyou! It took this slow witted berk a while this morning to figure out people were posting in the threads to subscribe to them... doh!

Thoughts - I was thinking laterally and going off all over the place... but I'm thinking of maybe putting it all in the expressions of the two characters I'm coming up with. Who is REALLY the master in a relationship where all seems black and white to the observer. Maybe it's not all so obvious.... I'm going to try and scribble something down today, but real work and a tub of Humous is dragging me back to my desk...

I guess these threads are a bit like a diary really. "Today I have mostly been drawing.... well... girls again probably"

03-22-2005, 01:27 PM
can't wait to see what u come up with..go posh. thsi will be better than the space opera!

03-22-2005, 04:00 PM
Right, now which girl will be the master and which the servent? Or will there be Ferrets involved?

Choices choices!


Good Luck Aly, you'll do well, im sure!

03-22-2005, 04:12 PM
Good luck! Hope to see some concepts soon!

03-22-2005, 05:02 PM
Wow, a lot of great artists coming in to this challenge! I love your previous works. I'm really eager to see what you come up with.

03-22-2005, 05:18 PM
Wow, a lot of great artists coming in to this challenge!

Yep!!! Really great artists. The challange gona be tough!:thumbsup:

Check my "Master and Servent" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=221933)
www.velinov.com (http://www.velinov.com/)

03-22-2005, 05:18 PM
Wow, a lot of great artists coming in to this challenge!

Yep!!! Really great artists. The challange gona be tough!:thumbsup:

Check my "Master and Servent" (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=221933)
www.velinov.com (http://www.velinov.com/)

03-22-2005, 05:20 PM
its gonna be a very challenging entry yet tough~~:buttrock:.goodluck posh..may the force be with u.

03-22-2005, 06:10 PM
good luck and have fun!

03-22-2005, 10:49 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111531780_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111531780_large.jpg)

Oh well! So much for noble sentiments! I sat down and started doodling girls again... still going to be in the expressions though! Heh! If I do go this way, I want it to be fun, so I'm going to take a leaf out of my hero, Joe Chiodos book! Not sure about composition yet... so deciding how I'm going to approach the BG might be a good idea...! Still, might scrap this and do something different... aargh!

03-22-2005, 10:56 PM
I like the one on the right... with the girl at the back off centre.

And i like the foot raised up and the nice, long stretched and taught back leg. Hmmm....

But prefer the 'kitty' text on the bowl.

Wedgewood used to do some really nice matt black cat bowls with a fishbone on the outside... i'll try and root out the catalogue for you to have a butchers... (i kept it which is sad i know but it was the next best thing to buying the bowl at £50... ouch... when i didn't even have a cat!!)

And... Nice kitty... :)

03-22-2005, 10:56 PM
I love it aly! I can't wait to see this one finished :) On a sidenote, i've fallen in love with the way you draw noses and i'm trying to create something like that in my Master/Servant challenge, although right now i'm not having too much success hehe. I'll be watching this thread for sure!


03-22-2005, 10:56 PM
hi Aly! cute girls again? i just cant wait to see how they will turn out so i'll be following your thread. best regards

03-22-2005, 11:08 PM
Looking sexy............I need a gless of milk!

Best of luck


03-22-2005, 11:17 PM
Smell the glove, eh?

Seeing this makes me very excited to see the finished job! Meow! I'm with Jonny - the composition on the right is definately stronger, and gives us a much better view of both ladies.

03-22-2005, 11:40 PM
Ho hoo, im liking this Aly. Nice! Into the whole bondage thing are we?:D

03-22-2005, 11:45 PM
definatley a subscriber here, love your girls very cute and cheeky. Reminds me a lot of the cheeky fan service anime images you find in graphic novels. Keep it up.:thumbsup: :beer:

03-23-2005, 12:04 AM
Nice! Into the whole bondage thing are we?:D
Not reeaally, but it sure throws up some great 'highlight' opportunities! And I'm a sucker for those little white dots... Oooh! I've just had another idea! *Runs off to find Wacom pen!*

03-23-2005, 01:40 AM
What guy wouldnt like that concept:D . The one on the right for sure shows more dominance of the master. Thsi concpet also gives us a chance you see your leather along with the cute button nose, doe eyed girls. Can't wait to see that other idea you ran off to do:bounce: .

03-23-2005, 01:46 AM
I say go for the idea you would have the most fun doing. Now granted I wouldn't mind seeing this idea pan out. :D

03-23-2005, 03:16 AM
I like your concept but I think I see that picture a lot in Manga. but i guess you want to give them a personal touch. the picture in the right has a better composition you should go with that one.
good luck!

03-23-2005, 04:35 AM
Looks great! I'm liking the right image more. Maybe the girl in front can have a colar? :)

But yeah, deffinitely has the master/servent feeling :thumbsup:

03-23-2005, 04:43 AM
This concepts is looking good so far. I like the one on the right as well. However IMO I think the submissive girl should have less of a happy look on her face. Also, maybe you could try slightly exaggerating the perspective. That might look cool. Looking good so far.

03-23-2005, 05:45 AM
definately right - teheheh - I can see this shaping up under your wacom pen Aly :D

03-23-2005, 05:51 AM
haha. nice stuff. my kind of concept ;)

03-23-2005, 06:41 AM
It does need work yet! The thing about these opening hours is to exorcise a few of those little demons that we always have lurking around. This may be one of those...heh! I had another idea last night which I'll sketch up today, which sprung from this. What I'm going to try and get across is that it's not always the master/mistress who calls the punches in this type of relationship, hence the knowing smile on the 'submissive'.

03-23-2005, 09:38 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111570699_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111570699_large.jpg)

Maybe a harem theme! I could get a eunuch in there too... A male character... SHOCK! (sort of) ..! Something a bit like Gil Elvgren and those 50's pin up artists, and the sense of humour they kept in their stuff. I think there's a pattern emerging here... The second ones composition is pretty boring though...

03-23-2005, 09:39 AM
Ooops, double post...

03-23-2005, 09:47 AM
whoa! looking good!

03-23-2005, 09:51 AM
You have a beautiful concept style. Good luck ! :cool:

03-23-2005, 10:25 AM
:) Good to some great talent coming out of the UK....

Really nice sketches..Like the top composition better..can picture how it will look already

Good Luck....hope the real work and humous doesn't hold you back tooo much

Looking forward to the next installment :thumbsup:

03-23-2005, 10:29 AM
Very Sexy! Nice concept. I'll have to get mine looking more sexy now!

Keep it up!

03-23-2005, 12:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111582507_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111582507_large.jpg)

The same idea as the more static composition before, but looking more dynamic. The 'servant' picking stuff up will have a resigned, petulant, 'oh here we go again' sort of look on her face; and the 'master' will be looking increasingly frustrated at the abysmal behaviour of her slave! The control thoroughly residing with the servant and not the master...

But I also kind of like the one with the sofa and cushions... oh I dunno... any help with my self indulgent meanderings is much appreciated... :)

03-23-2005, 12:58 PM
Oo, very smooth and dynamic sketches, Aly. I think I like the master on the left sketch better, and the slave on the right one, ha ha. I'm difficult like that.

03-23-2005, 01:00 PM
This is looking kinkier and kinkier...

which is good! :thumbsup:

03-23-2005, 01:22 PM
teheheheh Aly, I can see you are on a run.
I agree with Linda - I totally love your sketching style. I always wanted to mention this after being able to follow some of your older pieces progress :)

I prefer the left one from the latest sketches btw.

03-23-2005, 02:11 PM
this is going to be nice.with all the sketches u did..i must say i dig them all.i assumed u'll still be coming with more sketches.all and all,make ur best choice out of it:)
its indeed kinky~are those gals gonna be in somekinda latex suit?just wondering:scream:

03-23-2005, 02:22 PM
Ooh. I still really like the harem ladies arranged like tempting cakes on the harem cushions, but the more obvious sub-dom poses in these latest sketches probably work better for the purposes of the challenge. The one on the left looks great.

Having said all that, I was really looking forward to the pussycat. Hmm. Do them all!

03-23-2005, 03:56 PM
ooOOoooOooH... More lovely ladies...

Now i'm torn... i loved 'kitty'... but the Harem looks really interesting too. The second harem sketches in the poses similar to the kitty pictures might satisfy me... but... i reckon...

You'll just have to do both!! :p

03-23-2005, 04:15 PM
I'm with Duddle. I liked botht he Harem and the Kitty ideas... What if you made the servent a Kitty laying on her lap or something in the Harem? I guess it wouldn't seem like a harem anymore...

03-23-2005, 04:26 PM
I like them all as well, they'd all work as strong illustrations. Shame we haven't got more time!

I think I favour the kitty cat idea, mainly because you could have alot of fun with it. A lot of the ideas are leaning towards the more serious side (mine included). It'd be nice to have a more fun loving entry!

03-23-2005, 06:14 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111601694_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111601694_large.jpg)

Thankyou guys! And yes, this is meant to be fun! I had a really intense idea to start with (that didn't involve girls!), but I know other people can do weightier ideas sooo much better.

Hmmm... I like the Kitty idea too, (a bit tighter here) but I'm kind of drawn to the harem... Aargh! I've done some more doodles as well at coffee break... and now I'm losing it... Kids, it's fun to explore, but eventually you've got to decide!

Canche is right, the Kitty is a bit Manga, not that thats a problem, but it's not my target here... Now it's time to tighten a couple of these up and make some decisions... :)

03-23-2005, 06:18 PM
looks great,think it looks fine,if u want to drift away from manga i hope u can!

03-23-2005, 08:09 PM
Awesome Posh! I can't wait to see your finished piece. It'll be great to see your process too, been wanting a tut from you for awhile now. Post more!

03-23-2005, 08:24 PM
Hé looking great your first sketches!Looking forward to see how youll work this out.
great start!

03-23-2005, 08:57 PM
Wooow! Awesome! Show wires thank you please!

4 pages long already? you sure are popular!
After seeing the comp theme, i guessed youd do something involving kinky ladies! And i am forever greatful for it! :thumbsup:
I frickin Love the kitty idea - keep at it! I think the one on the left is the better one.
Hurry - for the greater good! Cant wait to see the finished piece.

Dammit.... youre making me want to try my hand at it now.....

Hmm... Im getting a feeling that this comp will be full of all sorts of gimpy shenanigans!

03-23-2005, 09:08 PM
Damn all your ladies are really good. You could really go with any one of them but I guess that is your problem now isn't it?

03-23-2005, 11:55 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111622139_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111622139_large.jpg)

More unadulterated unoriginality updated. Probabobly going to work this one up a bit more and the Kitty one, and see which I prefer... I'm not happy with the mistress character behind yet... but I'll slap a bit of colour or tone down tomorrow to start getting some form in there. I'm really thinking Joe Chiodo now, and Gil Elvgren!

This is a superb experience... I'm usually much more defined in what I'm doing from the start, which isn't really very good. And watching the organic growth of other peoples pieces is just... well, brilliant!

03-24-2005, 12:05 AM
It's looking good... but it still needs a little something more... I liked the kitty one because it had some nice perspective and foreshortening. This piece is moer straight on. What if you made the foreground girl on all fours trying to clean up the mess? It would then be a more similar pose to the Kitty image, but in a harem theme...

03-24-2005, 12:08 AM
Looks great, but ive already fallen in love with the kitty one and i must have it! :bounce:

Nice to hear youre using Elvgren as inspiration.
If you havent already, i STRONGLY reccomend you get this book:
Its insanely cheap and jam packed with all his excellent paintings. Invaluable for sexy pose reference!

Keep em coming!

03-24-2005, 12:08 AM
You know, that's a very good idea! Oh, dear... I was just about to go to bed! Thankyou Jason! ;)

03-24-2005, 12:11 AM
Yay, I was helpful! I didn't mean to keep you awake though. Draw in the morning! Though, I wouldn't mind seeing what you come up with a little sooner :D

03-24-2005, 12:15 AM
Yeah, the Kitty one seems more promising. I'm curious as to what kind of environment you could use for this scene. I guess a kitchen would be the obvious choice.:shrug:

03-24-2005, 12:38 AM
I like the more dynamic composition of the "kitty" one for sure. I'm sure the final will have some finely rendered luscious chicks whatever it is! Nice work.

03-24-2005, 12:41 AM
I am definitely a fan of your Kitty concept. I have always enjoyed the pin-up artist of old, and your concepts have a lot of that in them.

Elvgren was one of the best. =)

I look forward to seeing more on your thread.

03-24-2005, 01:19 AM
I feel privileged to watch this thread of your artwork and the way that it evolves. I cannot wait to see the finished piece.

03-24-2005, 02:05 AM
I think the drawing is working pretty good. As already said might change the angle to get a more interesting perspective, maybe get some overlap happening. One thing I think though is that the relationship is more clear in the kitty image or is stronger in communicating the master servant relationship maybe more of a master slave relationship in the kitty image.

03-24-2005, 02:56 AM
• Great start Aly, this is going to be a hot thread! good Luck!

03-24-2005, 07:42 AM
Hi Aly. Looking forward to seeing your work progress. With so many Brits entering this challenge I really hope that at least one prize will be finding its way to the UK....! Good luck. :thumbsup: Claireabella

03-24-2005, 07:49 AM
hehe heheheh I can soooo feel the testosterone in this thread :evil

Waiting on your next sketch and lurking some more :D

03-24-2005, 08:16 AM
personnaly, I like the second sketch, good luck ;)

03-24-2005, 12:17 PM
YEEEEHAAA i likes you got it man thats the good stuff.. but then again yours always is , colours :twisted: me wants colours. seriously man good work

03-24-2005, 12:22 PM
I like your style dominion but not too much, I like the last sketch OOOPS, you should work that one

03-24-2005, 12:27 PM
Love Chiodo's stuff! That would be a nice style to be 'influenced' by! Maybe you should try being a little more stylized with the anatomy of the girls. Accentuate some of the curves. You can never go too curvy!

More! Need to see more!

03-24-2005, 02:03 PM
Once again Aly, GREAT CONCEPT !! Can't wait 2 see this in colour. Just a thought maybe you can put a few more protagonists in the background looking on. Laughing maybe or in shock anticipating what's going to happen next. Like I said ,just a thought.

My Master & Servant :

03-24-2005, 02:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111674292_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111674292_large.jpg)

I think I'm going to go with the first one I tentatively called 'kitty', and is now called 'Kitchen Sink Drama' (top left). I wish I could do them all, as Matt Dixon suggested... bum!

Mack72 - more curves coming soon! :)

03-24-2005, 02:31 PM
I looooove the first one... oooh no, the second one... or maybe the third or fourth... or...um... oh....

With these compositions you are really spoiling us....


03-24-2005, 02:53 PM
This looks great -nice style- wish i could draw like this.

03-24-2005, 02:58 PM
Theyre all great, but as you said, the first one is the besterest one.
Be careful with the kitchen/ mopping scenario though - could end up being an ad for bounty kitchen towels! I still like the bowl idea from the previous sketches. Works better with her on all fours though - makes it more balanced. I like the kitchen scene too - will make an excellent change from post apocalyptic and fantasy settings that a lot of ppl are doing. Maybe make it as a 60s style kitchen? Camp it up some?
Maybe put a bowl o milk there instead of the spill? Cats are not known for their stain cleaning qualities, so the kitty theme is being diluted somewhat.
Keep it up though - im dying to see how it turns out.

03-24-2005, 03:06 PM
i think that the two on the bottom are more emotional (and could be better to go with one of them) while the character on the top ones are just smiling.

03-24-2005, 03:20 PM
Hi, Aly, really nice work so far!
I agree with Marcheen above: The bottom two images convey a nice feeling of a power dynamic going on. The top left one is a nice layout, but the smile perhaps dulls the effect of a power difference. for me, it comes off as "we're just playing master and servant, but we don't really mean it." Which is, of course, still perfectly valid.

As for the bottom two, another idea might be to do something halfway between the two frams: The first one shows the mistress considerring punishment, the second shows her administerring it... What about the time when she's just about to punish the servant, ie. arm cocked back and just about to strike? That too might have a strong emotional impact (which might be exactly what you aren't going for! :-)

Anyhow, looking forward to seeing where you take it... Best of luck!


03-24-2005, 03:50 PM
The first one looks great! Love the kitchen scene. Very nice change from all of this sci-fi fantasy stuff we're all doing. What people were saying about the emotion... I don't know, I don't mind the playful smile. It's more naughty than a more serious feeling you would have otherwise, and I know you're going for a cheeky image. If anything, I guess you could give the kitty one of Gil's :eek: faces that he uses whenever a girls skirts fly up or her icecream melts, etc.

03-24-2005, 04:18 PM
Nice of you to like the curves as well!:thumbsup: I think I like the first one, especially with the ktchen scene. There's something naughty and dirty about it! (Maybe that's just me!)

Great job!

03-24-2005, 04:20 PM
Hehe kinky:D , I love those characteristic expressions that your characters have.

I do like the first best, although I also like the last a lot. I think Evil Gerbil's suggestion about the girl's expression is a very good idea...yeah defenitly, that would fit perfectly.

Looking forward to see some updates, good luck!

03-24-2005, 04:23 PM
The foreshortening in the first one (top left) gives it a level of dynamics that the other three don't have (well no duh). I would also have to say the master's pose in second one (top right) is my favorite.

03-24-2005, 05:16 PM
Hey, Aly, cute idea, nicely drawn. First one is definitely best, but (butt?) is her boot actually planted on her ass, or a little way above? Maybe she's wearing high heels but it just looks a little off to me.

03-24-2005, 05:17 PM
:O looking good :| keep it up, i like the 1st one (kitty thingy) the most :)

03-24-2005, 05:32 PM
looks all gud so far,not sure which one,i like em all

*runs away with headache*

03-24-2005, 06:18 PM
I like the first 2 the best.

03-24-2005, 06:57 PM
For me the first and the third are the best:thumbsup::thumbsup:

03-24-2005, 07:01 PM
Good sketches : 4th is the one I prefer.
I'm impatient to see it coloured...
Good luck !

03-24-2005, 09:59 PM
Great style of drawing..I like the one on the left top..

03-24-2005, 10:42 PM
I agree with learner88. The top left concept sketch is the best. Having seen a few of your finished pictures, I think this is gonna be awesome. Keep up the good work.

03-24-2005, 10:53 PM
I love your sketches. I like it even more that they are women. You have great understanding of motion Good Hustle.

03-24-2005, 11:07 PM
Heh heh! Thanks guys! Well, it's looking like the pic that was called 'Bad Kitty' is the one I'm going to work up. I agree with Marcheen, that there probably is more emotion in the others, but it's pretty cartoony emotion.:) I'm kind of attached to the haremy imagery, so I might finish one of those ideas off seperately...

I don't usually work like this. I more than often go with my first idea, because it's what I thought of first and like to get it moving as quickly as possible. Here I've looked at more options first, and that has been fun, but it seems that I'm coming back to more or less the first one anyway! Lol! I don't see a great deal of depth in my piccy. I'm just trying to develop a fun piece with characters that are also fun to draw. I hope this kind of imagery doesn't offend anyone...

I'll post an update tomorrow... now bed calls me...

Edit: Walrus - you make a good suggestion to about a compromise between two of the ideas, that made me think again.... hmmm! No, I've made a decision! Must stick with it... must... stick.... decision... must... KABOOM! Brain all gone...

03-24-2005, 11:17 PM
stick with it, Aly..... stick with it.... LoL...

03-24-2005, 11:22 PM
well maybe it is cartoony emotion but what i meant was that you can see some kind of scene going on there and on the other you only present posing characters. but anyways i cannot wait to see how you will develope the idea further. goodnight

03-24-2005, 11:23 PM
He he! Your observation was very accurate though Marcheen! I wish I could put more depth in here... Goodnight to you too! ;)

03-24-2005, 11:37 PM
I agree , Kitty is fantastic with a good perspective, i liiikeees:drool: Honestly i think you could rock in the market of sm comics and i honestlz mean it as a compliment cause it takes a feeling to draw it so naturallz. Ill be watching this work develop.:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

03-24-2005, 11:48 PM
• Every sketch u make, every breath u take, every single day, I'll be watching you....(from Police :D)
• I Love the first one on top! :thumbsup:

03-25-2005, 08:47 AM
• Every sketch u make, every breath u take, every single day, I'll be watching you....(from Police :D)
• I Love the first one on top! :thumbsup:


03-25-2005, 09:04 AM
:) I liked the first sketck mostly. If you go to that direction you won't mistake.

MY "Master and servant" thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=221933)

www.velinov.com (http://www.velinov.com/)

03-25-2005, 09:38 AM
LOL, this that OOPS makes me laugh. Funny stuff, very impressive character drawings btw. Its very hard for me to decide which I like the best, it's all so good really. I cant wait to see your color WIP.

03-25-2005, 03:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111765589_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1111765589_large.jpg)

Bit more of an update. Thanks sooo much for the help with ideas! (The colour in this was just to get an idea of the direction of light rather than the actual look of it). I still need to tighten up the linework before I'm happy enough to add (the dreaded) colour. And I want to put in some more little details, like fridge magnets and pot plants... and play with the costumes a bit.

I've come up with a little story for it though (not really deep enough to call it a concept)...

03-25-2005, 03:57 PM
Nice, nice, nice!!! I Can't wait to se the development of this thread. Go to color, Go to color!!! It could be simply wonderful. :thumbsup:

My Master and Servant (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=221933)
www.velinov.com (http://www.velinov.com/)

03-25-2005, 03:58 PM
Hi Aly love what I'm seeing so far keep it up.

03-25-2005, 03:59 PM
That's a really cute sketch. I love the cat-girl's expression, a mix of fear and jealousy. Very nice details too. Can't wait to see more updates!

03-25-2005, 04:05 PM
Another Fantastic sketch, ALy!!

It's beautifully drawn and I love the details... the clockwork mouse, the Kitchen, the 'Kitty' bowl and, particularly, the raised little finger of the girl with the cuppa. And the girls are bursting with life.

Spot on!!

And it really stands out from the crowd as something that little bit different...

03-25-2005, 04:12 PM
Great Aly...your control of the female form is fantastic.

Two sugestions: 1. The back girl's right leg seems to be resting on the stooping girl's back. I think it would look nicer if you put the foot on the stooping girl's right buttock, as if she was pushing her to get to work. Perhaps moving the girl in the back to the left could do the trick instead of just moving the leg. 2. The front girl is really cute, but the expression on her face is a bit bland. Perhaps a mixture of pain and pleasure would really make her look as if she wanted to be a slave (more than servant).

Great start!

03-25-2005, 04:22 PM
Wow, great sketch. I cant wait to see more. Best of luck in the competition.

03-25-2005, 04:29 PM
Wow, it's really coming together great! I really like it :) Can't wait to see this getting fleshed out.

03-25-2005, 05:53 PM
Ha! Such great sketches - so much personality and life in the faces. These are really great, playful interpretations of the theme too, I dig these.

03-25-2005, 06:15 PM
oh Zeus! great picture, thats pretty sexy couple, great depth and composition only with lines, cant wait to see those worked facial expressions and the painting job! great stuff

03-25-2005, 06:18 PM
Your drawing is fabulous! I prefered the scene with the couch, but no matter, the final will be stunning!

03-25-2005, 06:26 PM
Looking really nice so far.

Keep up the great work


03-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Oh behave baby. Yeah! Grrrrowl.


I like girls in kitty suits. :love:

03-25-2005, 06:35 PM
The latest composition is the best. I love it...my eyes can travel around the image freely and the perspective in the background really help bringing toward the focal point. Great job.

03-25-2005, 06:35 PM
Wow! I want one!
Looking great - the face expression is much better and the cuppa is just genius. Really refreshing to see a down to earth, domesticated idea for a change.

03-25-2005, 06:52 PM
Looking great!

03-25-2005, 09:14 PM
Hey,it's getting hotter and hotter in here,ha,ha!!!Nice the last one!!!really nice!Maybe the back of the girl dominating could be just alittle bit more rounded..well,that's a tiny little suggestion quit personal.
Anyway,really great perspective and deepness!I'm impatient for the rest!
(sorry for my english!(that phrase should be in our smileys!!!)

03-25-2005, 09:27 PM
A wee idea or 2 Aly:
The lass at in the background would look ace in an apron - maybe a frilly maid style one or even a plastic novelty one! Maybe have the kitty girl in more ordinary clothes? Maybe a black bra or a nightdress perhaps? Something youd find around the house?
The cup of tea and kitchen components stick close to reality - maybe the costumes could reflect this too?
Are you going for ordinary style gals, or the whole black & white hair & piercings shebang?

Whatever you do, im sure itll turn out great.

03-25-2005, 09:45 PM
Seeing as you ask Andy (in a round about way), I'm not totally decided yet, but I forgot to post the 'concept' (yeah, right... concept!) when I updated the image, or rather the story:

"Mistress came home early from ‘Scratchies’ nightclub, to find Kitty had been playing with her clockwork mouse in the kitchen when she should have been tidying the house! Bad Kitty! After she had been told she could only play with it outside too... tut tut! And to make matters worse, she'd spilt the milk... all over the kitchen floor! Stopping short of rubbing her nose in it, mistress commanded Kitty to clean it up... NOW! And properly mind, or it'll be six of the best and a night in the backyard. Mistress is secretly pleased, though, because she needed the floor cleaning anyway.... But Kitty is secretly pleased as well, because she knows she'll do a really bad job of cleaning the floor and she kind of likes the look of the crop in mistress’s hand... The thing is though, Mistress knows this.... ;)"

So it's whatever I see coming from this... Mistress has got to be done up in some tasty Goth gear, because she's just got in from the club, and Kitty... well, all I'm definite on with her is a pair of Marigolds!

03-25-2005, 09:51 PM
Thass some kinkeh shee-eat chu got there!

Nice touch with the marigolds too - i didnt know they were on the sketch - its cos they havent got that magical yellow colour.

Keep it up - cant wait for more gubbins

03-25-2005, 09:52 PM
top babework :D

03-25-2005, 10:06 PM
Damn, is she gonna take that whip across her behind. Lol. This is really good and I like. Good Hustle.:bounce:

03-25-2005, 10:30 PM
Great start...

03-25-2005, 10:33 PM
BTW, give Ms.kitty some attitude.

03-25-2005, 11:20 PM
wow! Well this thread is awsome man, great job so far, I love the concept and the style on the girls! This thread is bookmarked and I hope you keep goin til the end mate!

03-25-2005, 11:31 PM
exelent! Great camera angle love the characters! go go go

03-26-2005, 12:12 AM
i love your concept ! very different from the others and unique , and the angle of the perspective is simply perfect
i'm impatient to see the colored version:)

03-26-2005, 12:14 AM
Great Style, I thought I would pass on this link. I love to use this for laying out images based on the golden section and divine proportions. You have a great image and concept and I think if you aren't using something like this it could help put it over the top! Its a plug-in for Photoshop. Trial version limits size but I just make it with smallest line weight and then transform it up to the size I want. Its fun to layer a few of them to get some nice dynamics as well....

I'll be keeping an eye on this one definately!

http://powerretouche.com/Divine_proportion_tutorial.htm (http://powerretouche.com/Divine_proportion_tutorial.htm)

03-26-2005, 12:22 AM
Hey Aly, you gonna get some nice sunlight mood happening ? Also love your girls, very cheesecake .

mmmm..cheesecake.. :drool:

My Master & servant :

03-26-2005, 12:24 AM
I so *totally* love the perspective used! Great job, can't wait to see more :D

03-26-2005, 12:29 AM
Cheers BlueCougar! Now THIS will be useful! Looks like something anyone who uses Photoshop should have. I'm familiar with the concept of the 'Divine Proportion', but should pay more attention to it. :D *Click... download!*

Cheers Punklover, but on the subject of perspective, what looks good in rough doesn't always work when you try and tighten it up. The perspective on the floor is a nightmare! I've been tryng to sort it just now, but low viewpoints force an unnatural perspective, and I've been lying on the floor of the kitchen trying to get an idea of how it would look! Der... :rolleyes:

Tariq - I think it will end up being sunlight. I was trying for night time, but Mistress is home early from the club so evening sun would be kind of cool! :)

03-26-2005, 01:45 AM
Are you using the girl on all fours from a referance? I don't know why but im getting such a "de'javu" from her.(I dont know how to spell de'javu, but you probably know what i mean)

03-26-2005, 03:29 AM
Hey thats some good stuff, you know all of us are thinking what you have illustrated when we saw the "Master and servant" challenge title. Good execution though.

Good luck to you!!!

03-26-2005, 05:31 AM
looking fantastic mate. cant wait to see colour.

03-26-2005, 06:10 AM
I dig the concept, and the perspective. Look forward to seeing the final! :thumbsup:

03-26-2005, 06:24 AM
nice going ally,i'm anticipating to see the color version.c'mon~~!

03-26-2005, 07:11 AM
• Yeah...would u please change that cup of coffee for a beer?....:)

03-26-2005, 08:01 AM

dioxide - No, no reference on this. Not for poses. I try to avoid reference for figure stuff unless I'm really struggliing with a position, and then I'll use myself and a mirror, or my girlfriend. 'De javu' probably isn't far off the mark, I just hope it's a bit more David Lynch than seaside postcard... :shrug:

BatskyStarman - No, I don't think there's anything very original in this idea at all, just a fun image I hope; so yeah I expect a lot of people did think of something like this! Lol! :)

Climax - hmm, it might become a beer, but if it does, something British, like a Boddies, or John Smiths. But I like the cup of tea! ;)

I won't be updating for a couple of days, as it's Easter, and the Easter Bunny demands a sacrifice of chocolate to keep it happy. Have a good one!

03-26-2005, 06:17 PM
hey posh,i've been watching,ur last update is fantasmo,domination!! hehe

keep it up

03-27-2005, 12:55 PM
BY THE MANY ARMS OF VISHNU...YOUR ART IS AMAZING ! Sorry about the excitement I just saw your other threads. I can't wait for your website.
My Master & servant : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=222506
My Web Site : www.tariqart.com
The Hunt : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223753
The Kid : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=223787
Battle Angel : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=203795&page=1&pp=15&highlight=battle+angel

03-27-2005, 06:32 PM
i'm sleepy no more...:D i like the concept Aly, coz it has some "appeal"...maybe just me. yes its me. keep up.

03-27-2005, 07:07 PM
yeah grooovy!! it's wicked as i like^^
i subscribe to this one. i'm so impatient to see the light/colors of this cool art!
(something funny, one of my 1st concept was something a little bit similar, with a girl licking the boot of the master, but i think it could be too much for here so i have forget it^^)

03-27-2005, 07:12 PM
Love your work, sobscribing to this one, I wanna see the final result... looks interesting already!

03-27-2005, 07:14 PM
Naughty concept u got there, hahaha, just kiddin :) , Love ur drawing styles man, whats next?!Whats next?!....:thumbsup: :buttrock: GoodLux!:thumbsup:

03-27-2005, 09:34 PM
Heh heh i just love it how when u dont visit someone for two days and then u come back and BAM. i can see some MIchael Turner Influence in your work, maybe im wrong, and u never saw his work , if so , know this, this is a premium, mainstream comic style u got there:thumbsup:

03-28-2005, 12:38 AM
Great job!!



03-28-2005, 12:57 AM
Ahhh, my kind of picture. Like it a lot.

03-28-2005, 11:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112051472_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112051472_large.jpg)

Not a big update, but I've worked on the line art a bit more. (Time has been against me this weekend).

There's something a little cockeyed with the perspective on the floor, and the 'Mistress' still needs a bit of tightening up... There's also something about her pose I'm not happy with... However I took Andreasrochas' advice and changed the foot - thanks! And moved her back a bit... :)

I'm trying to do the whole thing in Photoshop, but normally if I was working with line to such detail, I'd do it with pencil, so this is interesting...

Nebezial - I know Michael Turners work, and it's fab, but I'm also a bit fan of Scott Campbell, who did Danger Girl.

03-29-2005, 12:30 AM
Already a fan. Someone has to do the more classic themes eh?

I would suggest though that you give the room a bit more pizzazz. Forgive if you've mentioned it elsewhere in the thread (I didn't really have the time to go all the way through it) but perhaps a more victorian setting or something else connotative of more traditional adult oriented Master and Slave scenarios.

Just a thought...


03-29-2005, 02:02 AM
Ohh sexy, very nice drawing and line quality. Good luck :)

03-29-2005, 06:11 AM
Toppest of notches! Its starting to take shape now. Keep it up....

When you gonna break out the crayola and start the colourin' in?

03-29-2005, 08:44 AM
Very cheeky.........woof!

03-29-2005, 08:59 AM
Hey Poshspice! I'm so glad you went for this concpet. This was my favourite! Nothing better than scantily clad sexy chicks getting dominated by more scantily clad sexy chicks! Definately looking forward to seeing this painted! Come on, get some colour on it!

03-29-2005, 09:42 AM
seems good man..

03-29-2005, 03:54 PM
It's looking great, Aly! I like the lettering for Kitty on the bowl. Very nice little touch. Be sure to fill the kitchen with personal details! I think that would be very nice to see and add a lot of interest to the image. Keep going!

03-29-2005, 04:04 PM
This has really come along since I last saw it mate.
Loving the line work here, very nice indeed. Good to see you have put them in a situation as well with a background.
Its looking good so far, looking forward to seeing what you do with this, that for sure.

Good Luck!

03-29-2005, 04:25 PM
Cheers, Heh heh! I am going to fill it with lots of anal little details, like fridge magnets and spaghetti tubes and just stuff! I'm sad that way... ;) And I have plans for the washing-up liquid and the mugs too...

I changed the girl behind earlier, so she's looking more at the lass on the floor, and put her with her hand holding the crop on her hip, as it looks a bit bland hanging down at her side. And realised that what was bothering me about the perspective, was there none vertically... duh! So I've corrected that too...

03-29-2005, 05:07 PM
Man, YOU are "THE LADYKILLER" uh... well yeah and "THE MENKILLER" aswell hehe. Tell me that your catty don´t talk and I marry her:D ... Juuust kidding. I don´t mind wimen talk (until they look like your catty:twisted: - allright, allright, kidding again). <-- that´s not funny right? I apologize.

Just keep it up!

peace, pete
oh yeah, can you give me her number?:D

03-29-2005, 05:59 PM
hey ally,the lineart looks really slick,lets pop in some colors,i've been long anticipating for it .:scream:i like the expression shown on the kitty gal.!~

03-29-2005, 07:53 PM
It was about time I noticed this thread... very nice pic is coming along. Would u mind giving me phone number of that servant? :D I have no critics at the moment, and I'll follow ur process with pleasure. Good luck!

03-29-2005, 11:20 PM
I love the linework and expressions that you have going on in here. Really nice quality work as usual my friend.

Can't wait for the color work to begin!

03-29-2005, 11:22 PM
The composition is looking really good. I am definately going to follow your progress...

03-29-2005, 11:32 PM
Wow, your lines are so clean. Did you do that in Photoshop? how did you manage that?

03-29-2005, 11:37 PM
Two foxy chicks for the price of one painting? Bargain! :D

Look forward to seeing the coloured version ;)

03-29-2005, 11:45 PM
Nice work, quite appealing. My only crit would be the Misstresses hand holding the cup. The pinkie finger is too straight. If all your other fingers are bent in such a way it's hard to extend your little finger out so much It would either be pointed towards camera more or bent. Geez, now I'm getting pickey...

Lookin Awesome though. Good luck.

03-29-2005, 11:58 PM
Nice work, quite appealing. My only crit would be the Misstresses hand holding the cup. The pinkie finger is too straight. If all your other fingers are bent in such a way it's hard to extend your little finger out so much It would either be pointed towards camera more or bent. Geez, now I'm getting pickey...

Lookin Awesome though. Good luck.

I disagree, I can hold my fingers like that! But then, im a freak!:bounce:

03-30-2005, 12:33 AM
I really dig this piece. I am a big fan of "Good Girl" art, and your stuff resembles that quite a bit.

Anyway, I am no expert by far, but I think you have the "Kitty" perspective dead on. If the Mistress is off, I would venture a guess at her right leg. Again, take that with a grain of salt. I see no big problem with the picture as a whole, but since you seem to think there is something amiss...maybe the right leg.

Going to be a good one.

03-30-2005, 01:55 AM
Your work walks very well...it is gone back to an interesting comic side.

03-30-2005, 04:28 AM
hehe, visiting this now, i understand whi you liked my pre-egypt kitty cats. :P
Hehe, your creation is sexy all over the place, wish ya lodsa fun and best luck :)

03-30-2005, 05:02 AM
Nice work, quite appealing. My only crit would be the Misstresses hand holding the cup. The pinkie finger is too straight. If all your other fingers are bent in such a way it's hard to extend your little finger out so much It would either be pointed towards camera more or bent. Geez, now I'm getting pickey...

Lookin Awesome though. Good luck.

Thats not true.... it is possible if not easy to hold ur little finger out like that. Happens to be how the aristocrats drink their tea....another sign of master that has been cleverly put in the pic.

03-30-2005, 05:03 AM
excellent line work by the way!

03-30-2005, 09:20 AM
Looking very good.

How do you do line work like that,mine always look crappy.

03-30-2005, 09:42 AM
COLOUR ! I WAN'T COLOUR ! :cry: Seriously though your line work is amazing. And J .Scott Campbell's art ROCKS ! have you got the Danger Girl Sketchbook ?
My Master & servant : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=222506
My Web Site : www.tariqart.com
Battle Angel : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=203795&page=1&pp=15&highlight=battle+angel

03-30-2005, 09:42 AM
Hi Aly

I have been looking at that back leg for a while and was thinking something was off about it. SO, you once helped me out with an overlay draw on an image, so I thought I would do the same.

Once I got the image into Photoshop and worked from the waist down it became clear that the back leg is too far back, or it seems so to me. Anyway, have a look at the image below and see what you think!

(Hope the overdraw is cool with you!)



03-30-2005, 09:52 AM
Ichthus, Wil & Sonic-X - cheers for the compliment on my linework. I'll be honest, I don't usually tighten it up as much as this in Photoshop. I normally do it with a mechanical pencil on paper. But I used to do traditional animation, and cleaning up rough animation drawings is good practice for tightening your linework.

Dreamshark - perhaps it is a little straight... I'll relax it a little...

Armored_Saint - Not familiar with "good girl" art, but after a quick net search at lunchtime I intend to be! :D (Although I think I get the idea...)

Tariqr - Yeah! I have the 'Dangergirl' Sketchbook! Superb stuff! I really like the Disneyesque thing he did with the characters!

Anarky - Andy, thanks dude! I've actually already changed that leg to pretty much what you've done here but keeping the foot in the same position to preserve the balance, but I didn't want to post another lineart drawing 'cause I've put loads up... :) Her head is different too...

Thankyou so much for the comments everyone. I've started the colour work, and this is where I can mess things up. I'm going for a late evening feel with the setting sun shining through the venetian blind. Lots of light bouncing off pale kitchen surfaces. Thought it might contrast with the gothy fetishy look of the two girls... it'll probably go pear shaped and I'll end up making it dead dark so you can't see anything! ;)

03-30-2005, 09:53 AM
BTW The Peteboy - No you can't have her number... he he! Sadly she's not real... snifff...

03-30-2005, 10:00 AM
Cool, if the colours match the quality of the drawing, then ladies and gentlemen we have a serious potential winner, oh btw could u take a look at my 3D concept, i would seriousy appreciate your oppinion, ull se why:D

03-30-2005, 10:20 AM
I didn't want to post another lineart drawing 'cause I've put loads up... :) Her head is different too...

Awww, go on dude. Post it! You can never post too many pictures, I for one would love to see more stages of this.


03-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Great drowing stile! :thumbsup: I like it! Good luck!

03-30-2005, 11:44 AM
I agree with anarky, more is good, more is very good:D i myshelf shiver from the mere thought of lineart:sad: its like, they make me wanna colour comic style... whitch reminds me what style r u going for?

03-30-2005, 12:00 PM
OMG! seeing this in colour will make me smile. Very nice line work... man thats kinky!

03-30-2005, 01:21 PM
Love those naughty girls! Just one minor request, I would like the bottom of the skirt on the servant to curve slighty upwards so it suggest the soft curvature of her thighs. Woof!

THE Wizard
03-31-2005, 01:24 PM
Here Kitty, kitty, kitty... Mmmm I'd do them both! :buttrock:

I like it - keep it up... It's fun and SEXY. Im looking forward to see this improving

:twisted: my master & servant 2D (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=225858):twisted:

03-31-2005, 01:28 PM
Y ALLY the kitchen rocks and dont u forget about it:D

03-31-2005, 01:55 PM
Heh heh! I've been working a bit of colour, or rather lighting into the kitchen, and I'll put it up later. I wasn't sure whether to go 'sixties' with it, or modern... it'll probably be a mixture of both. As for the finish, it's going to end up pretty rendered, but I want to keep it stylised a bit too. Oh, decisions decisions...

Jose Pardo - consider it done! :)

03-31-2005, 01:58 PM
You should definately go the whole 'pin up' , very rendered style for this piece. It is just screaming out for it! But be careful, because you don't want it to end up looking like a postcard from the seaside!:D!

Either way, I'm eagerly awaiting the next phase of posting!


03-31-2005, 02:17 PM
hello mr/miss spice that is posh.

great progress so far,i like the cat women....hey..... don't cats lick each other or themselves?? maybe u shud make them....

ok maybe not,can't wait to see more pussy.....cat women.

03-31-2005, 02:22 PM
don't cats lick each other or themselves?? maybe u shud make them....


03-31-2005, 02:27 PM
yes, i like the kitty too. come on! give some more!! i like your style!:applause:

03-31-2005, 02:50 PM
as a complete non-sequiter, Posh, your avatar always makes me think of Desire from Sandman.

03-31-2005, 03:08 PM
great progress so far,i like the cat women....hey..... don't cats lick each other or themselves?? maybe u shud make them....

ok maybe not,can't wait to see more pussy.....cat women.

Now now... behave! ;)

circumlocutious - It's funny you should say that, as that character is kind of in the same ballpark as Desire from Sandman... although I wasn't thinking of them when doing it ;) And cheers! I think.... er...

mack72 - Yeah, I was thinking of that too.... but the lighting will remove the chance of it looking remotely like a saucy postcard! I hope!

03-31-2005, 05:26 PM
C'mon ALy.... i can't take the suspense...

Feed us a WiP... ;)

03-31-2005, 05:42 PM
very good concept sketches are also looking pretty cool, cant wait till i see the full version :)

03-31-2005, 07:16 PM
Wow, this is coming a long super nicely! I'm really impressed by your line work. It's super clean without feeling stiff. Do you use Paiter to do those, or Photoshop? Excellent work.

03-31-2005, 09:34 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112304873_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112304873_large.jpg)

Fiddling with lighting more than colour really... I'm going to try for a late afternoon feel, (which might mess up my story) with beams cutting through the blind, so the light will be quite subdued in the shadows. Might be able to get some nice bounce... :) Very rough at this stage... bleh!

The kitchen may very well change colour after seeing it on my home computer...!

03-31-2005, 09:37 PM
omg!! thats really great!!

03-31-2005, 09:40 PM
OMG, you finaly started coloring it ! I love that background ! *drools*:wise:

03-31-2005, 09:43 PM
This is a fantastic start on the colouring, Aly... This is gonna be an amazing piece!!

And such loooooooovely ladies... :eek:

03-31-2005, 09:56 PM
Beautiful start on the colors, Aly! The color of the cabinets reminds me or every single rental unit I've lived in in California, they all has some major element that was either that color turqoise green or something pink. Or both. Together. But anyhow, the color does fit the old-style decoraions you have going on in the kitchen. And the peacock feather is a great complement to those shades. The warm colors of the skin tones will show up great on them!

It's probably too late to mention it, but the kitty dish feel short to me. I normally think of pet-dishes like that being taller. But then, I've mostly only had dogs so what do i know? :-)

Anyhow, great work. Having seen your other work, I just know the skin is going to look luminous when you're done with it!


03-31-2005, 10:38 PM
i've been waiting for colouring and my patience has been rewarded;) looking great but i want to see some more hehe

03-31-2005, 10:48 PM
Thass muchos ace!
Great colours and the atmosphere is very effective. Nice to see good looking 'normal' lighting rather than intense sunsets and apocalyptic skies. Its nice the way the diffused light pools on the kitchen unit to the mid right - its right behind the kittys face so the eye has something to focus on. I take it that shes the main focus of this piece? Composition wise, the tea-drinkers face is less prominent.
Just a lil idea - what if you changed the teacup idea a bit? I havent seen a teacup like that in years. Maybe use a flowery mug, or if youre feeling adventerous, a big cheesy mug with some novelty design on it? Not sure how much youre intending to push the whole mundane british thing...

Looking forward to the next morsel of moist meaty pixelicious goodness.

03-31-2005, 10:52 PM
Wow, really cool concept ! Keep it up ! :thumbsup:

03-31-2005, 11:03 PM
Wibble... I'd love to be able to see an image as a whole when it comes to colour, but I always end up starting on a face and spreading out from there. It was sooo hard for me to even consider the background before the figure. At least this time I have an idea what I want to do, so I'll work into it until I get there. I really wish I could do an 'Enayla' and splash wonderful colours down all over the canvas and somehow sculpt with them... but I know I'd end up going back to the face anyway...

Andy H - The mistress's face will be very detailed... I can't let a face go without detail! Aaargh! This pic will be full of little anal thingummyjigs.. hehe! The mug idea is a good 'un! Maybe it could say, 'The Boss'... I'll think about it...

Walrus - Good to see you have the same kitchen units in sunny California as we do in Derby! The kitty dish IS going to change. It's too far back on the floor and buggers up the perspective, so I'll sort it out. And yes, I'll get on to the skin proper when I've tried to block in some more colour...

marcheen / Noob / duddlebug / Strike / CoreyArtE Ta muchley! :D

04-01-2005, 12:13 AM
This is looking Gorgeous Aly. Really really good. You have a way with colour that makes me green with envy. Im very impressed with this and can see you doing VERY well in this Challange. Ive stalled a bit due to busyness this week, but i'll getting on with mine more next week I hope.

Is this Photoshop mate?

Im still not sure about that back leg, it looks too squashed up at the hip to me. Have a look at my over drawing to see what im on about.
Other then that, its spot on so far. Keep it going.

04-01-2005, 12:27 AM
Niiiice colors!
This piece is really coming out!!
I'll keep my eyes here for sure!!

04-01-2005, 12:39 AM
Don't know if I've fawned over your entry yet...but just in case <drool> I'm truly looking forward to seeing this one complete </drool> =)


04-01-2005, 12:40 AM
Good luck. I think this piece will rock when it's done. :)


04-01-2005, 02:26 AM
*cackles* Oh, I LOVE it! The everyday domesticity of the kitchen really contrasts nicely with the women--and their outfits and activities.

Your drawings--and your gloriously corsetted badass chicks--always make my day, PoshSpice! </fangirling>

04-01-2005, 03:51 AM
wow!! Its coming real nice!! great lineart!!:thumbsup: just waiting for more...

04-01-2005, 05:08 AM
Posting to subscribe, but also to say that this is one of my fave challenge entries. Awesome stuff Aly, I loved your "angel" and "lil devil" pieces, and this is shaping up to be a fave as well. Dig the lineart, and the colour looks V promising indeed.

04-01-2005, 06:00 AM
Very nice, sort of Dave Gibbonsy feeling. (and thats supposed to be a compliment)

04-01-2005, 06:06 AM
hey i think i recognised your style of colouring and drawing..are you the man who made that girl with the finger up:) ?and that girl with the "skycaptain style?"

04-01-2005, 06:25 AM

I love your composition!

(but what they will do after the polishing...?)

cheers: Kornél

04-01-2005, 06:41 AM
Wooo, the soft light looks promising!!!

04-01-2005, 06:57 AM
colours are great mate..... i immediatly fet that it was morning around 7.30 ish in summer before reading you description. I donnuo what it is really...just get that sense. otherwise great stuff. got to be one of the judges to be sure the way it's going.

04-01-2005, 08:20 AM
Ah,..colour! This looks great! I know its just a WIP, but I love the soft light coming in through the window. Its actually got a nice '50's feel to it, because of the palette you've used. This is definately going to look very tasty (and naughty!) when its finished!

04-01-2005, 09:58 AM
O YEAH ! NOW WE'RE TALKING.!! i lve the light cutting in through the blinds.

When u have time check this out.. it's right up your Aly . ( heh, hee..i made a funny ) :applause:


04-01-2005, 10:21 AM
very attractive, style extremly homogene, you are well to amuse with lighting effect, really some good work:thumbsup:

04-01-2005, 10:21 AM
wow! this ooks great!! i really have nothing more to add, this looks perfect as it is even if it's not finished yet. you know how to colour REALLY GOOOOOOD!!!:drool:

04-01-2005, 10:31 AM
ALLRIGHT Ally , u know i have very high standards when colouring s concerned, so i mean this when i say this is a fve star colouring, keep it up:applause:

04-01-2005, 10:51 AM
Go Aly. You've begin a great job on colors. It starts to be a great entry
for this challange and definitely one of my favorites posts. Keep the good work!!! :thumbsup:


04-01-2005, 11:50 AM
MMM ..... :)
I like it !

04-01-2005, 01:29 PM
The lighting is really going to make this image dramatic, looking good!

04-01-2005, 05:14 PM
your lineart is really great!! :thumbsup: and the babes are soo cute! keep it up!

i´ll watch this one..:)

04-01-2005, 08:34 PM
Wow Aly! Very sexy entry! I like this one. Can't wait to see their skins colored. It looks great how it is going. I like the outside light coming though the window. Hmm... have you thinking in a night street light instead of this one. It could give it a more intimate sense to the composition.
Good luck! I'll be looking around.

04-01-2005, 08:53 PM
Neat update. So we decieded to change the headposition... looks very good. I like the lightnig a lot, and the face of the mistress apears exceptional cute... as expected :)
keep it up mate, chees

04-01-2005, 09:01 PM
Good colour choices. Maybe have one of those cupboards slightly open to avoid the isometric look. Then you can think about what's in the cupboards. Dill sauce or dildos?

Can I say that?

04-01-2005, 09:09 PM
Wow, that is looking great. Nice colors.

04-01-2005, 09:17 PM
nice, nice. Keep up the good work. Good hustle. this is starting to get kinky.

04-01-2005, 09:42 PM
I like it!

Kind of weird after having seen a lot of elaborate stories and build ups. Nothing beats Ye old SM in MS. You just gotta sometimes.

04-01-2005, 09:47 PM
Bwah-ha haaaa! I like Baron's suggestion...

Seriously, this is looking great. Can't wait to see more!

my 2D entry:

04-02-2005, 01:14 AM
so sexy. i am loving the skin tones on the chest:D

04-02-2005, 03:27 PM
Agree with the baron about the cupboard, not just for perspective (and dildoes? ;) ) but for giving the kitchen a more natural look. I even think it can have some magnet figures, or cute stickers on it or in the slabs.

04-03-2005, 02:01 AM
this piece makes me happy.

04-03-2005, 02:57 AM
Hey man! You're going great! just keep it up..gonna watch your progress...

04-03-2005, 07:50 PM
keep it coming! looks really great to me!

04-04-2005, 02:54 AM
Hi Aly

I have been looking at that back leg for a while and was thinking something was off about it. SO, you once helped me out with an overlay draw on an image, so I thought I would do the same.

Once I got the image into Photoshop and worked from the waist down it became clear that the back leg is too far back, or it seems so to me. Anyway, have a look at the image below and see what you think!

(Hope the overdraw is cool with you!)



I just registered and will be putting my own submission in shortly, but i ran across this post and i noticed a very intelligent observation and crtique....but you should also note that the change made in red will only work if you prefer the passive, friendly point or else if you want to go for a more dominating and mischievious mood, then keep the leg where it is(leaned back and shifting weight to the other leg) thereby putting more emphasis on degrading the "servant."
You could also work the bent leg to show weight change and force.
Just a thought...goodluck.

04-04-2005, 06:10 AM
Any updates soon Aly? Havent seen you around for a while. We need more lady ack-shawn!

04-04-2005, 09:44 AM
More, more!!! Please, am starving... These cuties...hmmm, Girl powa!

04-04-2005, 11:02 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112612571_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/8/5790/5790_1112612571_large.jpg)

Sorry for the delay in updating. I've had a busy weekend, drowning my mobile phone, blowing up my telly and losing 30 quid! Not to mention the barman who nicked my gin and tonic while my back was turned... Bum! I did a little bit this morning, but this is more to show the kind of cheescake, pastelly pin-up, Joe Chiodo feel I want to get with this? I'm not happy with her expression yet, but I wanted to post something... anything! :) I'll try and do a better update later today....

04-04-2005, 11:05 AM
all corsets were made by demas...ups, i mean ally :D i was wondering what happened to u :)
it looks better every time:thumbsup:

04-04-2005, 11:26 AM
Woo yay - thats quali-TAY!
Ace work there - the face has much better definition now and i love the leather shading. Glad you changed the mug too!

Sounds like you had a shitty weekend!
well - I went out to walsall sat nite! :sad:

04-04-2005, 11:34 AM
hey ally,u piece is shaping up pretty good here,the colors and all,reminds me of ur goth gal u post in conceptart.org.http://cgtalk.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gifkeep it going~~

04-04-2005, 11:42 AM
Well done Aly!!! Another proof that this is not a accidental entry.
Nice feeling with those colors...keep as updated closely!!! :thumbsup:


http://farfolina.pochta.ru/death.jpg (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=221933)

04-04-2005, 11:49 AM
Nice going on the colors, the black hair is hot on her. One question (no not for her phone number): what or where is she looking at?

04-04-2005, 12:11 PM
mmmmmmmmmmmm....very nice.........bring on the goodies!

This is going to look stunning.


04-04-2005, 12:21 PM
Hey Aly, looking good ! love the peacock feathers in the hair, and the Bart Simpson Mug is CLASSIC !!
My Master & servant : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=222506

My Web Site : www.tariqart.com

Battle Angel : http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?t=203795&page=1&pp=15&highlight=battle+angel

04-04-2005, 12:23 PM
Thankyou gentle people.

ace4016 - She's looking at the other girl on all fours, so on her own she looks a bit out of place, kind of staring off into the mid distance...

It'll work better when the colours more blocked in. I hope...

04-04-2005, 12:40 PM
great job on colouring, i really like her face. it looks like a mixture of Turner and Madurera.
umm..i was wondering for quite some time..well don't take this wrong.. are u a girl, or a guy?
your avatar is confusing me a bit..so when i tell my friends to take a look at your post, that i can surely say: look at her's it' s great!!! or his? umm.. sorry for the dumb question..:blush: