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03 March 2005, 01:22 AM
Joao Roberto Braz Junior has entered the Master and Servant 3D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: Shaman - the Spirits of Nature (

Here is the Final version. I hope you like. :)

Tell me what you think ;)

Here is a bigger version:

03 March 2005, 01:47 AM
Have Fun, Good Luck :)

03 March 2005, 09:14 PM
Go go go Braz!
Can´t wait to see what direction you´ll take this time!!:buttrock:

03 March 2005, 05:53 PM
boa sorte pra voce neste conteste amigo!

03 March 2005, 10:47 PM
hey guy, nice to see you here...

i waiting for concepts... let´s rock....


03 March 2005, 08:44 PM (

Hi everybody,

Thanks for all kinds words.

Obrigado a todos. Estou de olho no trabalho de vocês também. :allright:

This is my first idea. He Is a Shaman, master of the Bisons. :)

Tell me what you think. I´m still studding another ways to composite this idea, to pass better the relationship ...

03 March 2005, 09:29 PM
Splendid sketch.. truly a good one.. and good idea too..
Good Luck, mate

03 March 2005, 10:53 PM
:eek: :eek: Man!! it´s awesome!!:bounce:

Agora fiquei com mais vontade ainda de ver como vai sair esse trampo cara!!! muito bom mesmo!!

Eu mudaria o angulo só, para algo mais dramatico, com mais impacto, mas nem sei se é esse o angulo que vc pretende qualquer maneira esta bom demais isso!!!

03 March 2005, 11:02 PM
uhmm americanized a lot no?.. if you want to run on this theme try something more brazilian.. put more value on your raize dude.. hehehe!!

well what you will choice i´m dont know.. bestluck hehehe

c ya braz

03 March 2005, 03:21 AM
Yeah!! Let's see how you're gonna handle your concept!! Bom começo!!:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 04:35 AM
Wow I gotta see this realized....thats some serious modeling coming your way :)

03 March 2005, 09:19 AM
Cool ! I like the idea ! It should be nice ! Let see what you will do !

03 March 2005, 04:33 PM
Beautiful beginning, Braz...:thumbsup: I liked the sketch! I want to participate also... Good luck!:)

03 March 2005, 05:20 PM
very good begin..
wait ups..

good luck in your work..

(I like very this smile heheheh):buttrock: :buttrock:

03 March 2005, 05:26 PM
Great idea, and potentially a beutiful image. Sketch looks great! Good luck!

03 March 2005, 07:12 PM
E rapa.. quero so ver.. vo te cobra muitoo nesse projeto ehehe.. pq tu pega no meu pe tb euheuhe


03 March 2005, 09:31 PM
nice! i would like to watch the development of it, i think it will be great!

Boa sorte cara :thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 09:54 PM
your sketch is great, very nice theme :)

03 March 2005, 12:46 AM
Hey JR.Braz,
Intersting ideia! it has potential! will certainly watch your work!

Good luck man,

Take care.

Rafael Martinez

03 March 2005, 01:44 AM
Wow!!!, very appropriete, I like this brave people too.
it seems very promising, I'm curious how you'll handle All this furry stuff And the deep expression of the Indians warrior.
I'll be looking the development ok.

My Master and Servant

03 March 2005, 02:42 PM
Hi, I realy want to see this. Good idea.

Maybe you could give some speed to your image. A lot of people do great jobs, but the final images are to static...and this is not so good. Another camera can help too. Try do something like this "IMPACT" ... :thumbsup: Good luck.

03 March 2005, 04:13 PM
Hi JR Braz, nice concept dude:thumbsup:
keep going and good luck

03 March 2005, 04:41 PM
Good idea, we will see the models!!!

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03 March 2005, 04:55 PM
ups! where the ups maledeto?? ahahhaa:thumbsup:

03 March 2005, 04:59 PM
coooll braz..
great idea..
abracos.. c ya !

03 March 2005, 05:19 PM
Heya Braz , good luck to you man .
Maybe some bubble gum?

03 March 2005, 05:19 PM

Thanks everybody for the comments. This was just the first idea .. I still working in more ideas before begins to modelling this one ... I want to sure this is a really good idea and if this could be a good image ... Soon I´ll post the other idea and other pose and camera view for this actual shot.

03 March 2005, 02:59 AM
great concept Braz !!!:thumbsup:
I am in the expectation to see the modelling.

03 March 2005, 03:11 AM
Hi JR.BRAZ, great concept!:thumbsup:
Good luck realising it, it will make for some really interesting modelling and texturing.

03 March 2005, 08:46 PM
Hi again ;)

I like your concept (Indian, great) and your sketch is very good.

Keep up good work.

03 March 2005, 01:40 AM
hi Braz

nice painting, i ever like the colors that you use...

best luck dude!!

04 April 2005, 03:52 PM
Thanks all comments :thumbsup:

I´m start the modelling of the indian. Soon I´ll post the progress :)

04 April 2005, 10:43 PM (

Here is the beging of the modeling process. I´m start with the Indian´s head.

04 April 2005, 01:16 AM
hi Braz !
great modeling man:thumbsup: , keep going...

04 April 2005, 04:31 AM
is Braz. blz? it is going very well. it orders to see there. I hug

04 April 2005, 05:21 AM
Hi BRAZ! Good start modelling man! I will accompany your progress :) c ya

04 April 2005, 06:34 AM
Great idea, i hope you capture that perfect expressin on his face. :) He really shows pride and confidence.

04 April 2005, 08:55 PM
>>Duplicate post

04 April 2005, 02:04 AM (

Just a lill change in face

04 April 2005, 03:52 AM
Nice work braz!
Seu estilo é inconfundivel mesmo!
Parabens man ta ficando duca!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:55 PM
I want see a perfect face here ¬¬

HEeh iLike the work

04 April 2005, 04:05 PM
cool model !!

exelent expression !
waiting to see more !
good luck !!
t+ !!
c ya !

04 April 2005, 09:18 PM
very nice Braz !!!
a modelagem do cabelo está d+:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:02 PM
Hi chief!!!
Very well concept indeed, but some sprits must be also found as the servant not only the bizons I think...Shamans deal with sprits!!!
Pro-modelling, waiting for your progress!!! Good luck:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:13 AM (

Here is progress in the modeling of the body. I made a litle changes in the face too.

04 April 2005, 02:16 AM
Excellent work bro!

04 April 2005, 02:29 AM
I really love your idea!
Excellent modeling.. waiting for your progress JR!
Continua assim, quero ver a imagem final!

04 April 2005, 03:03 AM
Hey Man,
Nice see you back!! good job! as usual:thumbsup:
Good luck on this challenge!

04 April 2005, 02:50 PM
:thumbsup: Hi Braz, good work man

- eu acho que a cabeça parece estar um pouco grande em relação ao corpo, pode ser o ângulo...

good loock

04 April 2005, 02:55 PM
Nice Braz!! It´s becoming great! the face is intimidating!
Can´t wait to see the bulls! ahaha

04 April 2005, 05:23 PM (

one more update

04 April 2005, 05:52 PM
KidMesh, Thanks man.

gui_mends, valeu cara.

BloodTaster, Obrigado. Sou fâ do seu trabalho.

dcmoutinho, thanks. Vou rever as proporçoes, apesar de já ter mexido um pouco nesse último update.

mecman, thanks monsterman, ops, mecman .. heheh :twisted:

04 April 2005, 10:54 PM (

adding details

04 April 2005, 01:39 PM
very nice !
- até que ficou legal o chapelão peludo do cacique:thumbsup:

um abraço

04 April 2005, 08:32 AM
Haleluja...This is not a droid or monster!!!
Everywhere where I looking I see only monsters, thats why good to see a simple, but great caracter which is not makes me scared.

Work on it! And you will be on my favourite list!


04 April 2005, 11:29 AM
Good model I like it. Only maybe little to reduce size of head?

Keep up good work :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 11:40 AM
Nice progress JR.,
Just don't forget the references. You still have some big issues in the anatomy/proportion. Take a look in some anatomy references even if you are planning to make something not totally realistic. Your work don't need to be realistic but taking care of these issues surely your character will be believable and this is a important part of character design :thumbsup:
The main problem is the very big head, more cartoon like, and the body kind of more realistic.

Keep it up :wip:


04 April 2005, 05:48 PM
I adored the hair. I still didn't assimilate the shirt. I will expect more innovations to have more vision on the subject. I liked the concept. Something very American. I am accompanying the topic.

04 April 2005, 07:05 PM (

Here is the first test in texture of the indian´s face. He is painted for war, that´s because is a little white. ;-)

04 April 2005, 07:09 PM
Thanks for the tips. I will review the proportions. I don´t wanna to do something 100% realistic, just something believable. :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:09 PM
Nice text braz!
A pintura no rosto da a impressão q foi feita com o dedo mesmo, bem legal!
abração cara!

04 April 2005, 07:48 PM
nice texture Braz,:thumbsup:

Mecman is right in relation to painting in the face, it seems that it was done with the fingers

04 April 2005, 08:46 PM
Hi again JR.BRAZ, coming along really well...My only real suggestion is to try and get some depth to thos wrinkles, like he's spent his life in the sun...

04 April 2005, 10:33 PM
:wip: unga taga, truga lunga karanaga singa, punga ñanga panga ,sondega traga langa

in english: awesome man, cool indian you have, and original idea, hope to see more from you in the future:buttrock:

04 April 2005, 10:37 PM
Strong indian...goood!!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:53 PM
great detail in the face. i love it. especially the eye areas. and the little scars and lines. really looks great.

04 April 2005, 05:13 AM
Hi BRAZ! Nice progress! I'm liking the textures work man! Your style is unmistakable hehehe keep it up friend:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:27 AM
Hey it's coming along nicely. I'd like to see his skin darker, as in the sketch. I also really miss the little smile he had going. :) It really added a sense of pride.

04 April 2005, 10:12 PM
Nice modeling, good work :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 10:14 PM
tah fikandu mto bom ae brother.. waiting to see more ! and the composite ! c ya !

04 April 2005, 01:57 AM
The texture gave an enormous life for the model. The road is this, it continues strong.

A textura deu uma vida enorme para o modelo. O caminho é este, continua firme.

Carlos Pacheco
04 April 2005, 05:21 PM
Great work, as allways. Boa sorte!

04 April 2005, 09:22 PM
Thanks for the suport guys. :bounce:

mecman, dcmoutinho, DaddyMack, melkao, alexfalchi, Mordalles, Wandddo, pixelkeg, arlutik, gra7, arcovoltaire, Carlos Pacheco, thanks all.
Sorry for not answer each one, but I´m working now in a new uptade for the image. I´ll be back soon. :)

04 April 2005, 11:35 PM
Heya JR.BRAZ, i really like the texture, but, as kris also apointed, you can improve the modelling of your character.

Talvez desse pra aumentar um pouco as rugas ao redor do nariz tambem.

Cara, agora uma pergunta mais geral pro pessoal do Brasil, quem ai vai na exposição de arte digital que a digital designer ta organizando em niterói? Pq poderiamos combinar de nos reunirmos la quem sabe, so de floripa aqui, e imagino que irei ficar um tanto quanto perdido por lá, entao se vcs estiverem afim de se reunir, me avisem!

Abração cara! continua tocando ai que quero ver esse up q ta pra sair!

Rafael Martinez

04 April 2005, 04:40 AM (

Here is a new (and very fast) sketch for the composition ... I think the master and the servants is more integrate in the scene and relationship is more evident.

04 April 2005, 01:20 PM
hi Braz,
nice sketch, the composition of the scene will be very good.:thumbsup:

good look

04 April 2005, 04:37 PM
Man that looking pretty nice....i like the eagle. Keep progresing:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:44 PM (

Here is a fast render test. A lot of textures to paint yet ... This is just a preview to keep the post alive .. hehee

04 April 2005, 06:10 PM
Amazing. I'll keep an eye on this thread.

My M&S

04 April 2005, 09:30 PM
hey braz.. mto legal vei.. soh acho q a mao direita apontando tah meio uniforme.. dura sei lah.. dah uma mexidinha a mais.. heh tah fikando loko !
best lucK !!
c ya !

04 April 2005, 09:33 PM
fala braz

vou postar em portugues mesmo pq meu ingles ta dormindo hehe

cara, as texturas estão muito boas mas vou ser bem sincero.. não gostei dessa nova composição... não sei se são as cores, talvez o angulo da camera possa mudar um pouco, mas no primeiro sketch eu achei que a relação mestre/servo tava mais definida - apesar do outro dar a sensação de movimento... isso tambem vai depender muito do resto do trabalho... vou estar acompanhando (no gerundio mesmo hehe)...

apesar de naum conseguir explicar direito espero que a critica seja util


04 April 2005, 01:41 AM (

Here is a new acessory for the indian .. is a knife :). This knife will be in his belt.

04 April 2005, 02:40 AM
Brilliant use of materials.
Like the design of the last update very unusal.

04 April 2005, 10:08 AM
He's starting to look really nice, great work Braz :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:08 PM
nice knife modeling Braz,
- seria baca colocar uma pena ou um lenço no cabo dessa faca...

good look

04 April 2005, 03:28 PM (

Here is a fast sketch, to visualize the character with the acessories ...

04 April 2005, 03:35 PM
Thanks everybody for the comments :thumbsup:

Kanga, thanks man. The design was inspired in a real american indian knife.

arlutik, thanks for the suport :)

dcmoutinho. Thanks. Take a new look at now. I think the acessories give a plus in the image. About the feather in the knife, I don´t know ... I don´t wanna to cover the details in the knife ... But I added a lot of feathers in other places now ... Tell me what you think now. :)

More comments and critics are always welcome :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 08:05 PM
Very good concept, let the Great Sprit always with you:)!!! Modelling keeps it going good also..:thumbsup:but I don't think a north American native wears a shrunk skull:wise:

04 April 2005, 03:20 PM
very nice Braz !:thumbsup:
I liked the texture of the belt.

good look

04 April 2005, 03:33 PM
Joao Roberto:

Congratulation for the attitude of your participation. Your idea is very good (why not a brazilian scene, with indians... anyway works!), and i only tell you to be careful in the hands, try to put more natural movement... The rest is going very well! Why dont you try pictures of several bisons in the background... Go for it man!

04 April 2005, 05:54 AM (

Thanks for the support guys. :)

Here is the indian again. I think the modeling is done. Maybe I will include a small bag in the belt too .. but I try first ...

Soon I´m will post the render of this version.

Any C&C are welcome.

04 April 2005, 05:57 AM
Congratulation :). fine modeling man :) good work

04 April 2005, 12:45 PM
Thanks Maxko. :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:51 PM (

Here is a new update. Now the rendered version.

04 April 2005, 01:14 PM
Wow JR.BRAZ, the render looks great mate:thumbsup: Well done pulling all that texturing together, and I think the details are really fitting to your concept...

Keep it up man, this is really moving along!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 01:22 PM
Very good!! :applause:

This scene is becoming very interesting ^^

The details and textures ares very good but i think you need change the muscles of arms
give more details xD

The forearm need more details. the Indian is very strong... so muscles on him!!!

And you can rotate the shoulders too...put yourself in mirror... you will see the right pose
in this perspective looks like only shoulder is going to back ^^

Look this sample...


04 April 2005, 01:33 PM
Wow, the texturing looks so rich! Good job and keep going.

04 April 2005, 01:42 PM
Great update braz!! The accessories looks great!! I didn´t like the arm textures...but it´s in progress yet right?

Eu adicionaria mais "fiozinhos" na calça, nao lembro o nome disso...
Manda bala man! ta ficando muito bom!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:32 PM (

I made a lill change in the pose ...

04 April 2005, 05:34 PM (

And here is the render of the new pose

04 April 2005, 07:13 PM
Good modeling and great texturing work, te pose is good although i think that he seems watching in a different direction (above) of where he points
Good luck!:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 08:18 PM
Hey Braz. Excellent render. Very good!!!
Say me somethnig... Do you use reactor to make these clothes?

Bye. And good luck!

04 April 2005, 03:26 PM
jajaja that skull is very nice:D

04 April 2005, 04:34 PM
Hey, with the details is much bether. I think you can try another textures on the pents, you know, a man like that with a clean yellow pents? Another thing that can be bether is the arms and hands, but i know you may not change at this time. What about some expressions on that face? What is your plan for the animals? do you already have some models? Keep going.

04 April 2005, 07:07 PM
great job brazz.. mto bom velho.. kero ve os bufalos agora.. hehe

t + boa sorte !

04 April 2005, 01:59 AM
hi Braz, great render !!!:thumbsup:
good look

04 April 2005, 04:28 AM
I really liked your idea. Finally one work in the contest without monster ... :thumbsup:

The modelling and the textures are great.

04 April 2005, 07:43 AM
oh yeah.. this is whats the word um .. natural "! great work so far the textures and light are suiting the scene very well.. fantastic.. looking forward to the final image its going to be very relaxing.. and a calm image of the master servant relationship/..great work!

04 April 2005, 08:25 PM
Hi all, thanks for the comments. :thumbsup:

Maxter. Tks. Yeah, you right. I´ll change this in the next update.

Silvio Peters, hi. I don´t use reactor, because I´m using XSI ... The deformation in the cloths is made in modeling. No simulation.

melkao, hehehe. Thanks man.

banzato, The pants is really too clean .. I will change this too in the next update. About the animals, I will begin to model the bisons in the weekend ...

gra7. Thanks. Tb quero ver só ver os bufalos .. hehehe

dcmoutinho, thanks for be always present.

chuva, thanks. Yeah, no monster this time :p

Neeno, thanks.

04 April 2005, 05:05 PM (

Here is another sketch. I think I will follow this one until the end. I like the colors and the balance of the composition. Tell me what you think :)

04 April 2005, 06:11 PM
The buffalo near the rock seems to break up the flow a bit (maybe it's just because he's darker)...he draws too much attention now.

Nice colors (I like them saturated too :) )

04 April 2005, 12:48 AM
Woaaaaaa i think that it will be a great image !!! I just love american indians. Good luck (or in portuguese Boa sorte rapaz !) !

04 April 2005, 12:50 AM
hey nice progress:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 02:59 AM
great sketch, the composition has everything to be very beautiful, those buffalos will feel work, hehehe...

good look

04 April 2005, 03:51 AM
E ai Braz ?
tava procurando algumas texturas na net e achei esse shader para búfalos, eu sei que você pretende gerar os pelos, mas, pode ser util como referência para a cor da pelagem, segue o link:

04 April 2005, 03:56 AM
Very Cool idea!

Shouldn't the Buffalo be a bit bigger though?

04 April 2005, 03:23 PM
Hey Joao,

I really like the last concept you posted, I like the feel of the image as a whole. One thing I think I would have the buffalo to the left of the Master looking at the viewer or the master instead of the one on the right side of the image looking at the viewer . I think this would make the image work better but that is just my opinion.
Great job so far.

04 April 2005, 04:56 PM
Great advance in colors! Hope that you can do all... Good luck!

04 April 2005, 05:59 PM (

Here is a update in the background. I know, the grass need more work ... But the modeling is finish.

04 April 2005, 06:07 PM
Thanks everybody for the support and for the tips. I made a lill change in the proportions of the composition. Now the ground is bigger than in the sketch. I will improve some details like the grass and test another ilumination too.

The next step is model the bisons. After finish the bisons, I will test again the composition, to find a better position to then all.

04 April 2005, 06:44 PM
I like the perspective on the character.

04 April 2005, 07:27 PM
Hello J.R.BRAZ. its scene this very good... good luck.....


04 April 2005, 07:33 PM
nice composition and lighting! remind me of warcraft cinematic!,
some suggestion is your grass is too green! maybe it's wip
good luck:thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 07:34 PM
yeah man...thas proggerssing in a very cool escene.
but where's the eagle and the other animal?:shrug:

04 April 2005, 03:44 AM
Really nice update Braz! I liked composition and colors too... welldone. :thumbsup:
Keep on going man!!!:bounce:

04 April 2005, 03:46 AM
wow!! this is coming along so much from the original concept looking good... work a litle more on lighting i think.. still a wip so.. keep it up!

04 April 2005, 10:37 AM
Cara eu vou postar em portugues mesmo pq estou com preguisa de ir lá no altavista pra traduzir hehehehehe....

Cara gostei bastante do ambiente, só não entendi muito essa fumaça verde e achei o personagem um pouco solto no cenário, eu gostava mais quando a câmera era mais próxima...

continua ae... :bounce:

04 April 2005, 12:19 PM
best of luck



04 April 2005, 03:41 PM (

Hi, this is a composition test with the animals. The bison is just for layout, I will start the modelling soon ...

04 April 2005, 03:46 PM
Nice Braz!! nice!!
the scene is very, very beautiful!! Nice colors!
I didn´t like the grass, the grass near the stone is great, but the others is a bit weird!
anyway, great work with the background!
Keep it up mate!!

04 April 2005, 03:47 PM
ciscoleal, thanks.

B-MAX TALK, thanks man.

monsitj, yeah, is inspired in warcraft cinematic and the lion king movie :)

melkao, here are the animals :). The previous image is just to show the background modeling. I will start to model the bison soon.

Wandddo, thanks for support. Valeu.

Neeno, I still work in lighting, this render is just a WIP ... just to test the layout with all together .. Thanks.

MadnesS. Valeu, pois é já tirei a lua a fumaça. Acho que ficou melhor. Então, afastei a camera, para não fica tudo muito apertado na cena .. acho que temos que ter a impressão de grandeza do lugar mesmo ...

manikantkujur, thanks :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:50 PM
Nice Braz!! nice!!
the scene is very, very beautiful!! Nice colors!
I didn´t like the grass, the grass near the stone is great, but the others is a bit weird!
anyway, great work with the background!
Keep it up mate!!

Hey Mec, we post at same time .. heheh

Yes, the grass still horrible :D .. I´m still working in the grass and in the lighting of the environment .. Soon I will post the update. I rendering the new version right now. :bounce:

04 April 2005, 04:04 PM
I'm digging the idea man. :)

I'm wondering if the horizon line is too high for the perspective you have. The camera angle is very dramatic and I dig it but I think the background needs to drop slightly. Just a suggestion. I can't wait to see more


04 April 2005, 04:21 PM
Yeah, your work is bether with the enviroment. I only think that the animals could be run, this could give more action feeling to your scene. Another thing that im looking is the color, i think you can put a generic color in the scene. The color of the front rocks is not the same of the background rocks, i think this is a litlle strange. Keep going. :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 05:43 PM
Hey JR.BRAZ :) .. Great Work Man... It´s been a long time I´ve been checking your thread but I havent left my comments here... but now it´s time.. rsssssss... Keep it Up Bro.. You are doing a great job in the challenge... Congrats Fella :thumbsup: !!!


04 April 2005, 05:46 PM
Nice concept. The relationship of men with animals is a good idea.

Good luck in the challenge.

Maurício Steinert

04 April 2005, 07:09 PM (

Hi, I made a lill changes in the composition before start the bison modeling. I made some changes in the stone and in the ilumination of the background.

04 April 2005, 07:12 PM
Thanks for the tips se7enthcin and banzato. I drop down the horizon .. is really better now. :thumbsup:

neo_sk8rider e msteinert, thanks for the support :beer:

04 April 2005, 07:17 PM
I like very much man! Good Texture and light :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 03:47 AM
Joao, great work, your scene is really nice. This is gonna be a great composition once it's finish. Really cool. :thumbsup:

04 April 2005, 12:35 PM
great composite Braz !:thumbsup:
I am anxious to see the buffalo.

good look

04 April 2005, 12:47 PM
Very nice !!!

04 April 2005, 04:26 PM
It's looking great!! I think that you should check the scale between all the charecters though!!

04 April 2005, 04:33 PM
Hey thats getting very nice..i think that the small lizard is a detail very cool.
by the way, the biso will be green in the final image?, beacuse i think that this color for this animal...well maybe put other texture for him?:shrug:

04 April 2005, 05:05 PM
Hi, thanks all comments :thumbsup:

mmaxx, thanks.

arlutik, thanks. I hope so. :D

dcmoutinho, valeu cara.

infinita. Thanks. Obrigado.

pBarrelas, thanks Paulo. Yeah I will check this.

melkao, hi melkao. The bison will not be green .. hehe ... I was post this image just for layout ... and the bison was just a reference photo. But I begin to model the bison now. Take a look in the next post. :)

04 April 2005, 05:26 PM (

Here is the first step of the bison modeling.

04 April 2005, 07:04 PM (

Here is another test, now with 2 bison .. what composition is better? with 1 or 2 bisons?

04 April 2005, 08:25 PM
Two bison as long as they have very different poses, great work

04 April 2005, 02:16 AM
hi braz, great modeling:thumbsup:

- eu acho que com 2 bisão ficaria bem legal, mas seria intereçante eles estarem com posições diferêntes...

um abraço

05 May 2005, 06:15 PM
Very good job... Keep going well!

My Thread:

05 May 2005, 05:57 AM (

Here is a new version, now with the bisons finish.

>> The bear, is just for test .. I will start the modeling soon ... :)

Tell me what you think about this new version. :allright:

05 May 2005, 02:09 PM
doble post :D

05 May 2005, 04:18 PM (

Here is a new composition test.

>> THE BEAR IS JUST FOR LAYOUT ... I will start the modeling soon. :thumbsup:

Tell me what you think ;)

05 May 2005, 04:57 PM
... to put more animals in the scene! Go for it man!

05 May 2005, 05:38 PM
hey braz

i like the brighter version

post more images with the animals... and tell about the fur, how you do it?

e manda bala!!

05 May 2005, 05:44 PM
hey man i like a lot the new composition....the bear in the place of the other biso. And the background is cool. Good Work:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 06:07 PM
This last one is the better composition :applause: :applause:

05 May 2005, 06:33 PM
Hey, good job.
Is much bether now but is a little strange a bear in that end of the world hehe, but the decision is yours. Before i tought that he was the king of bisons and now i think he is tarzan haha but is cool, keep going. Only one thing im looking in your last composition... contrast diferences and the color of the central rock, floor and grass. I think this 3 elements could have more brown color.

Melhorou bastante cara mas é meio estranho um urso naquele fim do mundo hehe, mas essa decisão é sua. É que antes eu achava que ele era o rei dos bisons, agora eu acho que ele é o tarzan haha mas ta legal, continua ai. Só uma coisa me incomoda na sua ultima composição... equilibrio de contrastes e a cor da pedra principal, chão e grama. Acho que esses três elementos poderiam ter um tom marrom.

Go go go... show us more. Good work. :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 09:11 PM
Hi everybody, thanks for comments :thumbsup:

praguer28, thanks. Now I start to model the bear. The last one miss to complete the scene :)

todesco, thanks. I´m in doubt about what composition is better ... I think the second one, could pass more emotion, because show us a battle against the darkness ... :) ... but the first show more action ... :rolleyes:

melkao, thanks. Yes, like the bear too. So I will star his the modeling soon.

ldgree, thanks.

banzato, yes, the original ideia, was to be something like the "king of the bisons" :) ... but like others peoples say before, and I think was right, the shamans controls the spirits of the forests (the spirits is every thing is alive) so I decide to take some animals of that region, like the bisons, the eagle, the falcon, the brown bear (yes they live in same place of the ancient american indians) and a little lizard, and put all then together in one scene. I´m don´t know .. really could be more like a tarzan than a shaman, but I think with many animals is better than use just bisons ...
And yes you right about the central stone, the floor and grass .. I will improve the colors diferences and some details in modeling... Thanks for comment.

05 May 2005, 02:08 PM
It is looking great!

The planet on the upper left is the moon, right? Have you considered making the dark side totally dark and add some craters to the light side? My first impression was that it was another planet like the earth, so the scene was in a different world, not ours.

I like the clothing on the guy and the animals very much!


05 May 2005, 03:57 PM
ae brazuca!!!:scream:
seu trabalho mostra que tá bem possível colocar o brasil numa boa colocação mo contest,
eu só tenho um conselho, toma cuidado pra não sujar demais a cena no postFx e a última imagem ficou melhor tá só sobrando um pouquinho na cor, mas tá bom
boa sorte véi

05 May 2005, 10:04 PM
Hi all,

fer3d, yeah you right ... the moon is looking like another planet ... I will change this. Thanks.

matheus_bristol, opa, blz? Valeu pela força. Vou terminar a modelagem do urso agora, e vou acertar esses detalhes de pós, como as cores, etc. Sempre tenho receio de usar cores muito saturadas por esse motivo ... Valeu. :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 11:45 PM
Nice composition!

Good job!! :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 03:33 AM
Hi Braz!:) Two beautiful images, but I prefer the first... the animals could have more aggressive faces... Keep on going man :thumbsup:
um gde abraço

05 May 2005, 01:23 PM (

Here is the wireframe version, shaded version and orginal render of the background :)

05 May 2005, 01:40 PM (

Here is the wire, shaded and original render from the Bisons.

05 May 2005, 02:02 PM
hey nice biso:)

05 May 2005, 05:28 PM
Like how things are developing. The lighting and attention to detail help make the compostion work. Good Stuff.

05 May 2005, 06:30 PM
It´s going better... Keep it coming

My thread:

05 May 2005, 07:32 PM
Joao very nice work on your Bison, this is really taking shape.

05 May 2005, 03:46 AM
hi Braz !
the hair of the bison were very good!!!:thumbsup:

good look

05 May 2005, 11:18 AM
Come on Bras, dont stop !

05 May 2005, 01:35 PM
IMHO the fur is perfect.


05 May 2005, 03:15 PM
Wow bro! That Bison is a hard rocker :buttrock:!

05 May 2005, 03:49 PM
Nice work man, the bison is wonderful, simple model but the texture and hair is just so convincing. Good stuff.:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 04:09 PM
hey brother.. amazing !

mto bom o bufalo.. soh achu q c pode explora mais o angulo da camera.. eh issu ae..
best luck.. c ya !

05 May 2005, 07:57 PM
Great Bison! :thumbsup:

I like the fur, maybe you will need work some more with the horns texture.

"Grande Abraço"

05 May 2005, 10:13 PM (

Hi all, here is the last animal .. the Bear :)

05 May 2005, 10:22 PM
Thanks friends for all comments :thumbsup:

melkao, Brent_3D, arlutik, dcmoutinho, amf3d, fer3d, mosconariz, hhssuu, gra7 and Diogo, thank you very much.

I´m in the final step now. I will adjust a lot of things in the background for now and soon I´ll post more updates :D

05 May 2005, 06:32 AM
E ai João bele!

Good progress....when I first got here and saw your sketch, I wonder... wow how will this guy handle all this furry stuff...well managed :thumbsup:...I'm surely here to see all this awesome stuff interacting.

Good luck irmão!

MyMasterAndServant (

05 May 2005, 12:20 PM
Hey Joao,
Your scene is looking great, the fur on the animals is looking great. The modeling of these new animals looks well done too. I wouldn't mind seeing a bit more of the distant landscape, just a bit more would do.

05 May 2005, 03:10 PM (

I make some changes in the bear´s fur ... Now it´s more furious ... hehe

05 May 2005, 03:22 PM
Miyagi, Thanks man. Valeu pela força. :thumbsup:

mmoir, thanks. Yeah, I testing now a lot of composition settings, including color, and all landscape ... :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 01:03 AM
I´m working on the bear claws and in the ground of the scene .. so soon more updates ... :)

I´ll back in few minutes :bounce:

05 May 2005, 01:09 AM
:buttrock:Wow joao...thats a great very real the skin hair...i really like it:bounce:

05 May 2005, 04:41 AM (

Here is a detail of the composition. The bison, now have some indian paints ... :)

Soon more updates ...:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 04:43 AM
Thanks Melkao :beer:

05 May 2005, 05:06 AM (

Here is the scene, with the bear and the bisons ... I start now, to make a new eagle ... soon updates :-)

05 May 2005, 05:24 AM
Wow, nice update since last I look.

The bear is awesome, love it

05 May 2005, 12:55 PM
Bizon is better now, the composition is full of life and movement :bounce: , great render.

ohh yes , the bear is fantastic :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM
Hey Joao,
It is looking good, keep at it. I like the mean bear too.

05 May 2005, 02:39 PM
uoww nice textures in Bison now... you can paint in red blood like xamas
i want see the eagle in your style too ^^

Very good work!!

05 May 2005, 03:05 PM
Hi Joao, I like you scene, just the color are over saturated ... anyway, the animals and the indian are amazing :thumbsup:

Heber G Conde
05 May 2005, 04:56 PM
Hi Braz!

Great Concept!
The bear is really interesting, as is the background - good atmosphere! Great terrain floor!
My two cents would be for the perspective! I think the bear should get a bit bigger - using the perspective!

Great job! Keep rocking and Good Luck!
Best Regards


05 May 2005, 06:08 PM
the bear look great in the escenary

05 May 2005, 12:11 PM
Hi Braz,

Great update :bounce: I like the colors. Everything is really cool. I don´t know if is because the low resolution in render, but the indian is looking with a blur ... diferent from the other parts that are more sharpe ... If you could, post a render with higher resolution, should be this the "problem" :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 04:20 PM
Hi JR:) The animals are a lot better now:thumbsup: maybe the claws of the bear could have varied sizes... and the face now are :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: keep working my friend, the conclusion it's not far now :) go on Braz :thumbsup:
gde abraço

05 May 2005, 04:34 PM
I like your furry animals a lot. Cool colors. Looks good man

05 May 2005, 09:30 PM
arlutik, thanks. Soon I will post more updates ...

Diogo, obrigado pela força.

mmoir, thanks.

ldgree, yeah I will add more color in bison´s paint. Thanks for the tip.

3dforall, thanks. I´m will test the saturation in the next update. Thanks.

Heber G Conde, Thanks. I will check all the proportions. Thanks for help.

melkao, hi Carlos. Thanks.

chuva, yes, the indian is a old render in low resolution version ... soo I will post a high resolution render. Is a lot better. :)

Wandddo, About the bear´s claws you right ... I will change thins. Thanks.

morgan, thanks.

Thanks everybody for all comments. Soon I will post a new update with the new eagle. :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 01:17 AM
awesome i love his pose.

05 May 2005, 11:51 AM
I like your furry animals,and i love his pose.

Cheers and good luck! :applause:

Rémy Malin
05 May 2005, 11:53 AM
I like your idea, good picture

05 May 2005, 08:43 PM (

Here is a update. I think is almost done.

05 May 2005, 09:05 PM
Thank you very much, franksmithy, chinbig2000 and Rémy Malin for the comments.
Is you guys thats make us go on. :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 11:38 PM
Hi Braz :wavey:

AMAZING update. You made a really really good image. I love the color, the animals and everything else. Stronge Work. :bowdown:


05 May 2005, 12:41 AM
dae braz! parabens cara ta ficando muito boa a cena!!
abraço! :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:46 AM
Wow man your progress are really great...the bear and the biso and the eagle are amazing...good work man:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 12:47 PM
very nice scene Braz !!!:thumbsup:
the colours it's great ! the bear gave a new emotion the scene.

good look

05 May 2005, 03:39 PM
Congrats, Joao Roberto!

I like it. The close-up shows details I didn't appreciate before, such a carefully textured lizard.

I was thinking: There dark spots near the moon, suggesting high flying birds. But all other birds are white. The dark ones resemble falling meteorites or something like that. What if you place them lower in the sky, or make them whiter, or give them a slight flying bird silhouete, in order not to cause confusion?

Just an idea.

Congrats again and good luck to you.


05 May 2005, 04:06 PM
• Looking great Roberto! lots of detail, I just have two comments:

_The sky seems that is not lighting the scene, maybe use a red back ligth to see if it looks more integrated
_The texture of his pants are a bit simple compared to the overal detail

It looks very good anyway, sorry i hadn't see your thread before, but it is never late to congratulate the good work! Good luck Pal

05 May 2005, 04:46 PM
João Roberto era o maioral... nosso Johny era um cara legal.

Congratulations my friend!
You did a very good image, your are in a great evolution!

Good luck!

05 May 2005, 09:42 PM
Thanks everybody for comments and support :thumbsup:

3dforall, thanks man. Vote on me :p

Lotus7, obrigado.

melkao, hi friend. Thank you.

dcmoutinho, thanks. I happy you like the colors.

fer3d, thanks for the tips. I will make more test about.

Climax, hi, is good to see you here. Thanks for tips. I will add more details in pants. You not are the only one that says me this ... And about the light, I will make more tests ... Thanks.

Dark Master, hehehe ... valeu pela musica. Só nunca gostei dessa parte do "era" ...hehehe :p. Thanks.

Thanks again friends. :thumbsup: Soon more updates. :D

05 May 2005, 02:50 AM
Hey Joao,
You really did a nice job on the eagle:thumbsup: , I was wondering why you were replacing the other one. The whole image is really nice. Good luck .

05 May 2005, 02:56 AM
And he did it! Heya Braz! you did it man! impressive scene! Really like the colors and composition! Congratulation for your work man! Just curious about what you still going to do on this image!

Good luck mate,

Rafael Martinez

05 May 2005, 03:12 PM
Very goodd!!! i love the eagle ^^

For me its perfect... the one thing you can do is a test in indian pose..

All animals is looking for a place.. and the Xama is looking for sky...
you can put the vision of Xama in same direction just for a test..

05 May 2005, 03:48 PM
That bear is great! I love the animals! the eagle, bison and bear, you're doing a great job here... I'm not that convinced with the indian pants... maybe more bump texture...

and thanks for visiting my thread, your pumpkin rocks my place! :buttrock:

05 May 2005, 04:56 PM
Hi JR:) Nice render... The eagle is :buttrock: realistic forms:thumbsup: keep coming my friend!:bounce:

05 May 2005, 07:04 PM
Nice Man.. Very Nice.. :bounce: !! Keep it UP.. :thumbsup: !!!


05 May 2005, 08:18 PM
Looking great. Love the eagle. The indian's pants seem a bit unfinished. Maybe an animal skin texture could work?

05 May 2005, 08:18 PM
Joao, you're almost done lots of detail in there love the lizard, you did a super job on the bear's fur :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 08:18 PM
Great, Almost done!

I love the eagle! :thumbsup:

Good Job!

05 May 2005, 11:11 PM
Interesting color scheme. Actually, not my type, but looks good. Eagle is great. Maybe some motion blur for it?

05 May 2005, 12:25 AM
Updates:bounce: updates:bounce: we want updates hahahahahaha... :D :D :D Força aí amigo!!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: abração

05 May 2005, 03:39 AM
Boa sorte!
Good luck JR

Nice idea and concept.

Keep doing more great stuff.

05 May 2005, 04:35 AM (

Here is some details :)

05 May 2005, 04:37 AM (

Here is some details :)

05 May 2005, 04:39 AM (

Here is some details :)

05 May 2005, 04:41 AM (

Here is some details :)

05 May 2005, 04:45 AM (

Here is the Final version. I hope you like. :)

Tell me what you think ;)

Here is a bigger version:

05 May 2005, 04:55 AM
JR, Congrats my friend!:bounce: Your final image is :buttrock: and thanks to all support in my thread... Good luck to you mate :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 05:02 AM
Fantastic image:thumbsup:

Congratulations !!:applause:

05 May 2005, 05:34 AM
Hi guys, thank you very much for the support and for the tips. I make some changes in this image, add details in the pants and add a new acessory. :)

Martinez 3d

Thanks again to all you friends. You rock guys :thumbsup: :bounce:

05 May 2005, 06:27 AM
Congrats BRAZ, nice image! goooood luck! :scream:

thanks 4 your support in my thread:buttrock:

05 May 2005, 02:24 PM
A M A Z I N G ! ! !

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I liked everything. I´m using this image like my new wallpaper :)

Good luck on voting :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 04:16 PM
Notttt good.. eheh Kidding!... i love this details images.
the " carpet" in belt gives to image another good moviment to xama poses..

Very good work... :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:

05 May 2005, 04:19 PM
A M A Z I N G ! ! !

:applause: :applause: :applause:

I liked everything. I´m using this image like my new wallpaper :)

Good luck on voting :thumbsup:
jajajajaja...i always do the same. i pic the best image of the contest

05 May 2005, 06:46 PM
congratulations man !!! great scene :applause:
"scream for me Brazil !!!":buttrock:

good look:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 07:17 PM
amazing man!! :thumbsup: i really like of this..the colors is soooo good.

congratulations and good luck..

stay with GOD

05 May 2005, 07:23 PM
Great render & theme, lovely vibrant colours, & I can see you had fun doing all the details, textures & surfaces :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 08:08 PM
congratulations Braz, great scene!! i really like some details and texturing...

good luck and "scream for me Brazil !!!" :buttrock: huehehehe

05 May 2005, 02:22 PM
Thanks everybody for so many replies :scream:

I´m really happy all you liked. :bounce:

And thanks a lot too, for use this image like a wallpaper. :love:


05 May 2005, 05:54 PM
amazing, simply amazing... i dunno but i thnk its too late pointing this out, like he's suppose to gaze at the direction he's pointing? oh well, thats nitpicking, jst ignore me hehehe... congratulations dude & good luck!!!

05 May 2005, 06:34 PM
i really like the colors in your picture man ;) Nice atmosphere !

Good luck !:thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 08:04 AM
pretty nice :thumbsup:

05 May 2005, 03:33 PM
Joao Roberto: Congratulations on your work, and I hope that we keep in touch!


05 May 2005, 06:56 PM
Hi guys, thanks for all comments :)

I´m just upload on ftp the final version now. For now, is just waiting for the next one .. hehehe :bounce:

05 May 2005, 03:37 AM

For who want to see, here is a bigger version of the final image:
>> 3000 x 1820px - 1,32Mb


05 May 2005, 04:23 AM
Nice work. Your final has a nice mythic feeling. Congrats.

05 May 2005, 04:54 AM
Hi JR.BRAZ, and a big congratulations, your hard work has paid off... You've given us a very compelling image, with some lovely, and delicate detailing:thumbsup::thumbsup: It was a pleasure to watch this grow:applause: Cheers

05 May 2005, 05:20 PM
Hey Braz! What a strong final image you got!!:buttrock: You really show the power of the master!:thumbsup: Congratulation for your incredible final result!:applause: Hope to see you here in the next challenge!

Good luck!

Um abraço,

Rafael Martinez