View Full Version : Crucifixion, possible Expose3 entry, if I can finish it

02 February 2005, 11:26 PM
in adddition to my mediocre skill as an illustrator (,
I've been painting this pseudo-surreal crucufixion
for some months now.

I'm content with everything
apart from the cloth.. it should be ragged and swirling,
but the demanding perspective forces me to make
the cloth freehand, as there are no linear perspective
rules that could possibly help me (I've even tried
photographing some cloth for reference: from that
angle it looks as if the photograph is unrealistic)

So I gather it's one of the cases where you have
to trick the viewer into disregarding perspective
and admiring a beautiful lavish scarlet cloth.
Any indications would be so nice! I can't believe
I left it for the last minute -just as the expose3
call for entries said :P oh well

thanks in advance,

P.S. crits also welcome. I'm not sure this is
expose3 material, please don't let me submit
it if it's not up to snuff.

02 February 2005, 01:00 AM
it looks really well rendered. i like the concept of an eye for a face. i did a pic just like that and i think we might have shared the same reason for it too. its like after he made a sacrifice he's still able to watch all. u might have a completely different, if it is i would like to know your reason for it.

the only thing that looks funny to me is the way the distorts in that perspective. the right side of the cross seems to extend to far out for that perspective.

anyway good work

02 February 2005, 01:33 AM
Really nice work, I love the clouds.

I agree with that the rightside of the cross is extended to far for an average symetrical cross, but since the painting is surreal I asume it was intentional.

If you want the cloth to be ragged you could erase parts using a very small brushsice, but I gues it could be pretty hard if you didn't paint the cloth on a different layer.

Good luck finishing it, hope you manage to finish before the deadline

02 February 2005, 01:40 AM
I like the picture. What software did you use? Have you considered using cloth simulation software. Most packages come with a cloth plugin of sorts.


02 February 2005, 02:06 AM
Looks like another version of Dali's Crucifixion.

Amazing clouds.

02 February 2005, 04:22 AM
impressive light and mood for the piece,i can never do surreal paintings.

02 February 2005, 07:44 AM
wow thats some crazy stuff
eyah i can see why the cloth is a problem for you
the shape of the cross made me uncomfturble with one side being longes than the other but surealism is surealism

02 February 2005, 11:13 AM
hi all.

thanks for ye kinde wordes.

photoshop and a little painter are the programs I use
is there a cloth simulation for photoshop??? even as
reference it would be so cool!

as you all noted, the right arm of the cross is longer,
not because of any surreal statement.. but because
I wanted to depict the figure from behind (which the
church would burn me for, if we were in earlier times..)
and so the only solution I could find for the figure to
look down at us, was to make his waist twist a lot,
and that would be painful. So I made the cross hand
longer in order to add to the suffering: even if he wants
to stand upright he can't, really.

nice way to interpret it! I am non religious nowadays,
so I wasn't trying to make an icon that christians
specifically can relate to. So it's not necessarily Jesus
on the cross. I was more trying to depict
the horror of people who are feeling punished by society
due to being different. So it's a painting about selfish
me. I am a transsexual after all.
I'm glad it's causing the emotion of suffering! Many
crucifixions I've seen give out no impression at all,
and I found that it bothered me in the back of my head.

I'll try *anything* !! :-) thanks. it is my good luck that
I am too afraid to paint without layers in case I screw
something up. I have a layer for cloth, and about 40 layers
for the clouds lol.

I'll do my best to finish it today, and thanks for the
suggestions and the kindness.


02 February 2005, 01:30 PM
Hehe, yeah I know what you mean, I sometimes have an insanely amount of layers, sometimes I get lost in em so I do merge layers a lot and my computer likes me if I do so

02 February 2005, 05:37 AM
Voted "Good" because it is.

02 February 2005, 01:09 PM
hi Christina,
I love this piece, great colours and mood. I also think that the horizontal part of the cross should be equal both sides, but apart from that i love it. As far as the cloth goes, I think it will just be a case of experimentation with loose brush strokes on a seperate layer until you find something that just "works"

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