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10 October 2004, 10:23 AM
Jorge Lescale Muciño has entered the Grand Space Opera 3D.

Challenge Page (

Latest Update: Final Image: final version (

heres my final image...i made some corrections to it...i made some changes to the smoke...and depht of field...also contrasted a bit the warriors..but didnt changed the lights...added some fog in certain points...but not too much...put closer the transport ship so it looks better now.

very sightly changes that help this image to look better...thanx to all you advice

10 October 2004, 10:24 AM
tsss...tsss...ready to bite!

10 October 2004, 10:34 AM
How wonderful..............................I get to be first in welcoming you Jorge..................I am very happy to see you in.And look forward to high level creations.A wonderful Space Opera...........Now get at it hard and with your usual flare and talent.Great to see you in..................:buttrock: :arteest:

10 October 2004, 12:57 PM
Hiya Jorge,

Great to see you here, Looking forward to your work :thumbsup:

10 October 2004, 04:52 PM
welcome aboard mate , im glad that you make it. Now lets back to work , waiting for updates

Good luck:thumbsup:

10 October 2004, 05:02 PM
Bien bien, parece ser que esto se pondra realmente bueno! hehe a darle duro a darle duro que si no, no acabamos!


10 October 2004, 07:02 PM
wow mates...thanx for the welcome words...i still have a few work to do outside the challenge ..but who doesnt...?

is time to warm up engines and see what we can do....
sketching cooking....
thanx again mates....

10 October 2004, 07:21 PM
I was wondering if you were going to join, cool that you have :bounce:

10 October 2004, 07:54 PM
Jorge, mucho gusto! I've seen your work and is fantastic! I'm in the process of learning how to work with XSI, a friend suggested this forum as a good way to learn and I have to agree with him, all the material and all the help somebody gets here is impressive. So good luck and I look forward to see your ideas!
Jorge V.

10 October 2004, 12:34 AM
Welcome Jorge! Is good to see you here muahahaha :twisted:

10 October 2004, 07:18 PM
flyingP: yes i finally enter this a great challenge!!

JorgeV: hola tocayo!...yes u can get nice feedback in this forum...thanx for support

mosconariz: gracias!...translation: thanx!...

10 October 2004, 08:09 PM
If it's OK with you....................I have bought up 4 seats in the front row and center for this...........Just waiting for the fun and fireworks................:arteest: :cool:

10 October 2004, 08:14 PM
:bounce: I knew u wouldn't resist in such a temptation u Mexican Rattlessssnake....hehehe..glad to see u in i have one more to tease ...:bounce:

Let's see what u will come up with BUBBLE NUTTY!

Have fun

10 October 2004, 12:37 PM
I like your job.

Let´s show your art :-)


10 October 2004, 10:06 AM
hey rattlesnake .. yah made it :thumbsup: was wondering if you were gonna pop your head up for this

i got my seats next to Virtuoso and will be waitin for the curtain to open on this show

11 November 2004, 06:22 AM
hey very happy to see youre following this one!..thanx for support...
i have started working on my sketch officialy today...i hope to post very soon my idea...thanx u!

11 November 2004, 08:52 PM
ok the story goes like this:

the story take place in an other galaxy wich is older

than ours so this allows much more development for some

planets inside of it. Not just tech development but

spiritual. Development in this areas doesnt decrease evil

thoughts of some militar and goverment leaders, this

just gives them more power to get what they want.

Im going to talk about the starters in this story:
"Koox" civilization
"Kinnah" civilization
I.A.:Intergalatic affairs

this civilization has the most powerful technology ever

created for military this make war become

their business and theyre trying to use their tech to

destroy other civilizations to showcase their weapons and

proof theyre the best in that so they can sell their


is the oldest civilization in galaxy..they get all their

knowledge asking their oracle and their gods are taking

care of them...this civilization hasnt high tech

resourses...but they use their gods powers to create

powerful weapons..
their planet is the most beautiful and rich planet in all


this is a fundation that takes care of the intergalatic

peace...and they will participate in any war to stop


the facts:
Koox needs to sell some weapons cos their economy depends

on it and also their population is they

decided to attack and conquer Kinnah planet to solve their problem.
Kinnah tribe has been warned by their oracle and their

gods are giving them now the power to defend their land.

Kinnah weapons may look old fashion but they will have

the enough power to battle face to face Koox.
I.A: will try to stop this but theyre not interested to

help Kinnah, theyre interested in eliminate Koox and take

control of Kinnah tribe...cos they also want the planet

for their own benefit...

Any aproach af tis story with our galaxy or planet real

facts are just coincidence :)

so lets party!

11 November 2004, 09:09 PM
Cool story of u go for thoughts:arteest: and then poly-crunch :bounce:

11 November 2004, 09:15 PM
Well it's about time,where you been keeping us all waiting Jorge my man.............:cool:

Like that story,nice balance and lots of potential for various models of differing style.......Now you do know I'll be watchin with "Both" my eyes don't you?:cool:

Heres to crunching the livin Hell out of those Polys........And doing it with style,as I know you will...............:arteest:

11 November 2004, 09:17 PM

welcome to the challenge... eager to see your first sketches ;p
good luck!

11 November 2004, 10:30 PM
:applause: coolies :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 07:05 AM (

the first aproach to the environment look

11 November 2004, 07:16 AM (

this is the smallest ship for A.I. is the first in strikes the enemy

11 November 2004, 07:19 AM
rattlesnake, Man glad to see you back in this challenge. Nice concept.
Best of luck for this challenge:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 07:22 AM (

since space is too big battle ships doesnt have enough fuel to arrive to all battles.
so these transports get this ships closer to the battle

11 November 2004, 07:25 AM (

these ones cover the transport so they can reach sfetly to the battle

11 November 2004, 07:28 AM (

and this ship is the fastest ship for I.A.
so is the one that carry bombs and make special delivery...

11 November 2004, 07:33 AM
Thanx...good luck to you im going to see your progress...

11 November 2004, 07:34 AM
Me gustan los diseños Jorge , seria interesante ver sus respectivas escalas para tener un panorama general de la escena . El background lo veo muy fregon , la lectura que tengo de el no es muy clara todavia debido al cielo, pero realmente me gusta .

Nave preferida: Power Battleship

Looking great mate , keep going . Waiting for more .:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 08:41 AM
Well it's about time.......;) ......But it's been worth the wait......I like your fleet Jorge.......different vessel/ships for various jobs........Nice designs and all well balanced,they fit there purpose and they fit for there assigned jobs.........this will be great to see develope,and I'll be watching you every step of the way........have fun,best of luck,and may the battlship and Space Opera go great for you...............:arteest: :beer:

11 November 2004, 09:31 AM
WOW!! Your concepts are lovely! I like the style of the ships and their colours. Nice, balanced and same mood on your pictures. Great stuff! I can't wait to see them in third dimension.

I'll be watching you:twisted:

11 November 2004, 09:43 AM
Cool stuff ssssnake!...especially that big transopter Battleship...weee:bounce:

11 November 2004, 07:55 AM
I'm too happy to see you here another time Jorge... I read the story and I fint that very interesting... The first design for the ship very nice for me... with a pure style :thumbsup:

lets' go man :bounce:

11 November 2004, 08:10 AM
adr: Las escalas las voy a mostrar pronto...aun estoy ideando eso ...pero en cuanto lo tenga lo pongo...gracias por tus comentarios!

Virtuoso: Thanx for your words mate...i want every ship to be funtional and with some design on my first time creating spaceships and space stuff (last experience "Alienware Challenge") i hope to do it fine...thanx for your wishes...same for u man!

arturro: thanx for your words...3d is on the way!!

DimitrisLiatsos:Is a honor to read from u here...master!! im glad u like it...more comming soon

Lemog: Hi mate ...thanx for happy u decided to participate in this one...your work will rock for sure...thanx for replying here:)

11 November 2004, 08:12 AM (

this is my first attemp on modeling the surface where to battle is going to take place...hope u like it!

11 November 2004, 08:42 AM
Cool...your fleet looks great :arteest:

11 November 2004, 08:48 AM
awesome updates, the concept sketches look amazing!

how did you do the landscape btw, displacement map?

11 November 2004, 09:13 AM
hey cool stuff rattlesnake, and an interesting story :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 09:17 AM
rattle in the contest ... :bounce: good luck Jorge and until now great concept... looking forward...


11 November 2004, 01:40 PM
Hey, nice battlefield, looks really cool, even I am eager to know how you made it. Is it displace.
Keep rocking:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 03:23 PM
Nice job, essssssssneik, I would like to see more radical designs! :twisted:, and, about the scale, maybe a human silluete could help, see ya! :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 08:09 PM
element5,flyingP: Thanx guys:love:

Versiden, madshooter: thanx for the words...and yes...i used a displacement map i created on z-brush y just sculpted the ground:thumbsup:

jddog: thnanx for your words and your wishes. im happy to see you here

mosconariz: yes is nice idea the scale thing...ill do that ...thanx!

11 November 2004, 08:23 PM
Nice update Jorge , the mountains are cool with nice details . Im glad that you used Zbrush for the displacements . Keep the good work

11 November 2004, 01:20 AM
Holy Z-brush environment batman...................looking nice.......Already going in the perfect direction Jorge......That fleet will have some beautiful surroundings......I am locked onto this thread for sure.......I really like eye candy,good reason to be locked on here...............:arteest: :arteest:

11 November 2004, 05:32 AM (

heres my modeling for the transport...adittional details will be added when texturing..

11 November 2004, 05:34 AM (

other views

11 November 2004, 05:43 AM (

heres the aprox. size for this ship...the little box on the left is the size of a person...and the one of the right represent the size of a battleship.

11 November 2004, 05:56 AM
Amazing fleet! Love the stylish look and the way its coming along in 3D! :applause:
Keep them coming!


11 November 2004, 07:49 AM
Happy to have you here too my friend....looking forward to more greatness from your corner..I love the concept and I know what you're capable of...Can't wait to see more... :applause:

11 November 2004, 08:43 AM (

well i added a place for the logo of I.A. is kinda flag...and also gives a kinda fish look to the ship...i think is nice...but i want to hear your opinion...the question is do u like it...or not?...your help will be very valuable ...thanx :)

11 November 2004, 11:14 AM
Rattlesnake, Man you have started to rock, transport model is superbly amazing:bowdown: . Very nicely detailed. Flag looks nice what I feel is after texturing is done it will definately look like a flag, You have already given it a cloth like feel with those wrinkles. Yeah it also looks like fish fins but that is the beauty of the whole thing, it is different and not a regular flag.
A very nice update:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 02:05 PM
Jorge no estoy muy seguro...
In my opinion, I think you should make those fins more rigid, because they look kind of weak against the overall of the ship, or maybe they could be rigid at the base and then become more loose after the spheres (which look like little cockpits), that way it would look more fin-like. Im not sure if I made myself clear :curious:


11 November 2004, 07:18 PM
madshooter: thanx mate! im happy to read u like it...:love:

luigithekid: u meant the metal post that handle the spheres?...hmmm i think more volume there can help...thanx for your advice mate! hope i undertood right:)

11 November 2004, 12:22 AM
wow, it looks great man...
I really like the scale shot you posted ;p

11 November 2004, 12:56 AM
So we started the BUBBLE NUT Modeling again...?:bounce: I love the ship and the details that are already coming out of it....clean and smooth work Jorge. Can't wait to see more man....

11 November 2004, 06:54 AM (

this the power ship that will provide some cover to the transport...extra details will be added when texturing ;)

11 November 2004, 06:58 AM
Versiden, DimitrisLiatsos: thanx for your words mates! is really nice to read some good comments from great artist:arteest:like u!

11 November 2004, 08:12 AM
The little ship make me think to a shell... It's not a design too tech, and I like that... your vessels have of heart...

11 November 2004, 09:43 AM
Jorge ! Wonderful forms and design... something unique here... elegants roundness transporter spaceship and yep like Lemog tells the little one's looks like a shell. I really like it a lot + :applause:



11 November 2004, 12:26 PM
that enviro modelling is awesome perhaps u could share a view tricks on how to hi res mountains range, u should definetly use it in the scene has much as possible. great work.

11 November 2004, 03:11 PM
Excellent work!
Hope to see the other stages! :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 07:52 AM (

this is the fastest ship for I.A.

11 November 2004, 07:55 AM (

the size view

11 November 2004, 07:58 AM
A fleet to be proud of..................really nice work,alot and quite detailed for the amount.The style is very nice,smooth with curves all in the right place,like a beautiful woman.;) :arteest:

Your doing another stellar job Snake,I will keep my eyes peeled for more,keep this up,it's already looking mighty fine,and with more to come the skies the limit.......:arteest:

11 November 2004, 08:00 AM
Lemog: thanx my friend...

jddog: thanx a lot for the kind words...they mean a lot to me ...:)

nobrain:ill be glad to share tricks...but i really didnt understand well what u asking for...u mean how i did the ground? please explain me better , my english is not the best around here:sad:

adel3d: thanx!

11 November 2004, 08:04 AM
Virtuoso:thanx a lot friend... yes there much... much ...much more to come...i have to make just a few details and the rest of them at texturing time...other way my machine will collapse at the end...thanx for following this one...u did help me to decide my self on participating into this challenge and im happy u did it....thanx mate!

i know , i know, my english sux:sad:

11 November 2004, 08:28 AM
I am glad I helped pull you into this challenge......As I am sure evryone else is glad to see you in..........By the way your English is good,very good in fact........rock on as always Snake..................:arteest: :cool:

11 November 2004, 08:38 AM
I like much the new one with his weapons on the wings, especially with the pipes, it's not aerodynamic, but rather original... :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 09:09 AM
Beautiful sships mate! :thumbsup: Nice style. Keep it up.

I was wondering how much are you going to push it with polys in every sship (some polycount/size per ship!). I seem to have some enormous fleets to make too!

11 November 2004, 09:18 AM
woah you've been busy, beautiful models......but then I wasn't expecting anything less from you mate :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 11:31 AM
Cool updates, I like the ghost ship. Only what I feel is if you can clip those wires to the wings coming out from backside of the guns.
Looks Rocking:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 11:52 AM
Hi Jorge, shame on me....:banghead: haven't visited your thread, 'cause I haven't seen it...what a pity, sorry mate!

Reading your concept, watching your illus, seeing your modelled fleet makes me delighted of :buttrock: Fantastic looking ships here - especially the fighter u posted at last. Looking forward for updates!
...a great thread here - *** subscribed***
keep on rockin',mate! :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:12 PM
Ya viendo los diseños directamente en 3d , empiezan a verse excelentes , tu escalas se ven muy bien y no dudo en que termines con una mega entrada .

Keep going Jorge , the designs are looking great . :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 07:30 PM

Lemog:hi...thanx for your words....u said maybe is not aerodinamic...hmmm do u think it can be fast or is not believable?

terraarc:thanx...ok about my ships im trying to make them not too heavy in poly count...for example the transporter is : 135542 polys... power battleship: 42270 polys ....ghost : 58348 polys....i will add more details with bump maps and coloring maps...

flyingP: thanx friend ;)

madshooter: thanx...your idea is nice...ill try to move those wires closer to the you think they look bad as thery are now?

Saschi0815: thanx really happy youre always great to have support from great artist like you!... i need to look your work...where is it?..oh ok ill follow the link....thanx friend!

adr: thanx mate...i think your work is also going to be a great entry...

11 November 2004, 07:34 PM
nice work~
i really like your design of the spaceship I.A,, it will still remain in shape from far away~ :)

11 November 2004, 11:19 PM (

this is the smallest the one that travels inside the transport...this ship is hard to hit because its size and is very resistant to attacks because its special armour...this make its perfect to massive attack situations...

11 November 2004, 11:22 PM
Like picking apples from a tree.....These wonderful models are coming fast and smooth.....just here to drop off a couple of these.....:thumbsup: :thumbsup: for your efforts,as always nice!:arteest:

11 November 2004, 11:34 PM
young_927: thanx man !

Virtuoso: thanx Michael, texturing time has come...some textures will clear my mind for creating more ships in the near future i hope...

11 November 2004, 11:51 PM
Hey jorge, good luck..., I can not surf for long but hope i will go through the thread in a while, ailing from a kidney stone, hospitalized and so on, so no updates from my side. I will go through your thread very soon.. bye...

11 November 2004, 11:57 PM
rajdeep: oh man im sad were not having updates from yours...i wish u the best in your situation and hope ull be able to keep rocking soon! happy to see you in my thread...
if theres something i can do for u just ask ...ok?

11 November 2004, 10:22 AM
Nice little one! Kind of reminds me a bug. Imagining a whole bunch of them around a great enemy..flying around hitting it!:thumbsup:

Also thanks for the info mate! I'll make good use of it in my ships too!:bounce::wip:

On to the texturing! Or as I more usually say:

Happy texturing!:arteest:

11 November 2004, 01:00 PM
Hey Rattle snake, I like this small ship, Keep the good working going:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 01:03 PM
Awesome design in those little stuff my Mexican friend :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce:

11 November 2004, 01:07 PM
At began your work was for me like : :drool:
now after your up-date is: :drool: + :buttrock:

jeroge... unity style and excellent work on the scale and proportion of each space-ships that you did until now, I'm impressed. And the details look really interesting... well I'm sure with the textures all the work will me amaizing... Beautiful !


11 November 2004, 10:18 PM (

heres the textures for the transport...also added some details...i couldnt resist adding more detail even when is going to be a bit far from the camera :)

11 November 2004, 10:22 PM
terraarc: yes thats the idea...lots of then flying around!

madshooter:thanx! im glad u like it...i had some doubts about it...but i think with some textures will be better...

DimitrisLiatsos: hi friend...thanx for the words:love:

jddog: lots of thanx for your kind words...ill make my best to make this entry looks good...thanx!

11 November 2004, 11:10 PM
Hey rattlesnake !
Shame on me ! I didn't even welcome you to the challenge...

But let's talk about your (excellent) work so far, here are my first thoughts :

Maybe somebody already told you (haven't read all the posts) but I think the transport ship is very close to the Star Wars Sandcrawler. Hopefully yours is more rounded but take care...
The rear part is looking strange with the fan (too small?) but maybe you could integrate it better to the general shape of the ship.

I think the scale of the scene is a little small for something really epic. That could easily be fixed by removing the ladder on the transport for an example.

The smaller ships are ok to me.

Just thoughts and ideas...:wise:

11 November 2004, 11:27 PM
Weehooah! For some reason I cannot possibly comprehend I've managed to miss out on the fact that you are indeed here busy working on a challenge entry! :scream: :blush:

I rely far too much on my subscription page...

Anyway - totally solid progress here! I particularly like the ghost, the very fast ship... it looks like it too :thumbsup: Expecting the best of stuff here, Jorge.

11 November 2004, 11:54 PM
Se esta viendo muy bien Jorge , quiza pueda detallar un poco mas la parte de la cabina del transporte , a mi parecer lo siento un poco plano .

Keep rocking mate . Nice progress:applause:

11 November 2004, 12:51 AM
Deadly Force: great to read your comments...they really help a lot...about "Star Wars Sandcrawler" hmmm...i didnt see that picture since a long time ago...but now it comes to my mind and i still think is different...ill try to get the movie so i can compare the Star Wars Sandcrawler with mine...
Well about the fan u said is small..imaybe my concept do not work fine...that part is just a kind of dont work for any thing else just decorative...but i agree ...maybe looks too weird. i thought this can add a bit fish look to the ship.
and i agree about the ladder...ill remove it...i didnt like it anyway:D
thanx a lot for the help...hope i can fix it well.

oh the ghost is also my favorite...and the power happy u are here mate...i think u can really help with your words of wisdom:wise:

adr: Porfavor dime exactamente que parte parte plateada? o arribita de eso?...espero tu respuesta...gracias por los comentarios

11 November 2004, 01:34 AM (

well i added a bit more details on the front part...and het rid of the ladder....i didnt change nothing on the back of the ship...c&c r welcome!

11 November 2004, 02:09 AM
la plateada hehe, creo ya lo hiciste

11 November 2004, 07:05 AM (

here is other update for the transport and the beta version for power battleship textures

11 November 2004, 07:42 AM
Hey Rattlesnake,

Nice work man. Just wanted to drop by and show my support. The piece is heading in a really strong direction. Your modelling is nice and tight as always.

*thumbs up*

11 November 2004, 07:51 AM
Nice textures!:bounce::bounce: You're moving fast!

11 November 2004, 08:35 AM (

heres the power ship with some improvements (i think so) ;p

11 November 2004, 08:39 AM
Ionized: hey friend !! hows all?...thanx for the support here...are you in? or what?
hope u can join us...if you already in please give me a link...please!...:love:

terraarc: thanx fact i need to move faster ...cos theres a lot to do yet...:wip:

11 November 2004, 10:30 PM (

some textures for the ghost ;)

11 November 2004, 10:52 PM
I like the textures a lot - we seem to have similar tastes when it comes to colour schemes...

That little powership reminds me of a stylized fat beetle somehow (not the VW car model, but the bug with six legs), very cool design.

Only crits I can think of would be some wear and scratches on the frontal edges of the wings on the ghost... considering it's very fast and probably been busy flying through intense dogfights with lots of debris messing up the paintwork...

Top notch stuff as usual.

11 November 2004, 01:06 AM
Man..your work is so stylised and full of all those tiny details that show that extra care...i like the feeling that comes out of your work(i had this feeling and in your Machineflesh work) much extra care in those tiny details.... :love:

11 November 2004, 02:49 AM
JamesMK: hi...yes i made that one and the others looking at some bugs....that beetle seems very strong to me and thats why i made my power battleship with tis shape.
i really apreciate the help about textures...its going to look much better if i add some scratches as u said...thanx :thumbsup:...ill be working on it!

DimitrisLiatsos: Thanx ...i really apreciate your nice to hear that from the "details master" your work is NUT detailed! and brilliant too...thanx a lot your words mean a lot.

11 November 2004, 02:53 AM (

this is the smallest of all ...

11 November 2004, 02:56 AM (

all the ships together...some still need some fix on textures...but this is an overall look on them

11 November 2004, 04:44 AM
looking sharp friend...especialy like the 2nd ship....certianly has your style !...keep it up

11 November 2004, 06:33 AM
Fantastic design and execution. Modeling is a bit repedative though. Maybe something to break it up?

11 November 2004, 10:01 AM
essencedesign,Fuzzy Modem:
thanx mates...ill do something with the modeling...thanx for the words!:)

11 November 2004, 10:08 AM
Cool design and lots of spaceship there ! It will become a great composition !

11 November 2004, 10:13 AM
Nice to see them all together to get a sense of the relative scale (the so called 'lescale' bwaaahaaahaaaa :D er... nevermind) Looking damn hot! I was going to say something else about one of the wings, but I realise now it's not going to matter considering the size of the ship in question. This will be good stuff.

11 November 2004, 10:27 AM
really do quite like the colour scheme of those, the designs have a really nice original quality to IMO :applause:

11 November 2004, 11:06 AM
Wow, Jorge, very nice texturing:thumbsup: Will there be some little reflections and specific specs on the hulls later on? COuld be sweet!

Really original ship design as mentioned before! Very good overall, Jorge:applause:

11 November 2004, 11:06 AM
Awesome texturing, coming up nicely :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 12:02 PM
Hi Jorge................Well i go away for a day and a half and I come back to see 5 days worth of updates.............:cool:

Your fleet looks wonderful,a lot of diversity and still belonging as a unit/fleet..............

The models are pretty detailed,and for a large scope such as this Space Opera theme very detailed.................The shapes and forms,the style are all very nice..................

The textures too are convincing and pleasant to look at,a nice color scheme...............

My only tip....a suggestion not a crit...............Would be to add an extra color,a secondary color to break up the primary one.....Possibly an orange based one,one that will fit well with your brownish tone.....I believe it will add that extra intensity and give your fleet a more vibrant look........Of course just a thought,I know this project is in excellent hands......

I Think your start and direction are on the high road.................And I'll be looking for more as always,it's great to see you continue and put this Space Opera together..........

Take care for now............:arteest: :beer:

11 November 2004, 09:57 PM
gpepper: thanx...i hope it does :thumbsup:

JamesMK: Lol....please tell me your comments...i still dont know if i will put a closer look of one of them in the final compo please tell me your thougts...thanx a lot!

flyingP: Thanx...original quallty is also part of your designs mate!

Saschi0815: thanx...yes ill add the reflections and specular maps later..

element5: thanx mate!

Virtuoso: hi thanx for your words and for your tips...i think adding an other color can make them look batter....ill be planning that and will do the changes on a near future...probably is going to be just a soft change but im sure it will make difference...thanx friend!

11 November 2004, 10:04 PM
Lol....please tell me your comments...i still dont know if i will put a closer look of one of them in the final compo please tell me your thougts...thanx a lot!

11 November 2004, 10:14 PM
To finish better this wing, maybe a little torpedo or other thing like that... or a knife, to cut the PotatoeShip :wise:

11 November 2004, 10:50 PM
or a knife, to cut the PotatoeShip LOL ...thats a nice idea...i will add the knife...potatoe ship wont have any chance against it:scream::D

Thanx friends...I will fix that James :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 11:50 PM
It's too difficult for me to stay serious more of 1 minute... sorry Doctor :shrug:

11 November 2004, 12:54 AM
really do quite like the colour scheme of those, the designs have a really nice original quality to IMO :applause:

Piggy says it all for me....what's your next step mate?:)

11 November 2004, 08:02 AM (

heres how a Kinnah warrior look...their atmosphere is similar than earth so they are quite like us...but with some special powers...i still need to design the weapons an some beast that allow them to face their enemys...oh...i will add more details to the custom...but this is the beta version for a Kinnah Warrior

11 November 2004, 08:07 AM
thanx friends...
well Dimi the next step are these guys...Kinnah warriors...theres going to be som archers...sable....and some riding weird animals ....kinda gigant bugs...lots of fun!!!:scream:

11 November 2004, 09:46 AM
you are still up..time to hit the bed man.....give us hell minyana....close the porta and minus the lights..... :shrug: ...just kiding of course..happy to find that I am not the only one still up in this time zone... :argh: ......keep up the good work... :bounce:

11 November 2004, 09:55 AM
Lol...just one more hour...
well i think i better sleep now...i need sweet ideas from my dreams to keep working....

thanx for reply friend!

i will sleep after taking a look to your work..

11 November 2004, 07:36 PM
flyingP: Thanx...original quallty is also part of your designs mate!

that's because I don't really have the faintest idea what I am doing :blush:

11 November 2004, 07:45 PM
Just a tiny suggestion, for the ship that has the downward canted wings, you may wish to counter that with some upward pointed rear or forward stabilizers if the vehicle is intended for atmospheric/space travel. As it stands, the vehicle would tumble end over end if let into the air, since the wings would produce a tremendous amount of drag and the engine is mounted high. This creates a torque between the engine and the wings in opposite directions.

Just something to think about, excellent work thus far!

11 November 2004, 08:35 PM
A fleet......Kinnah warrior's.....You are leaving no rock un-turned......A full scale wide scope all the way........As always doing great Jorge........I'll watch for the 3D birth of these warriors Jorge......And yes Essence and Jorge you have a third at least up with you late night's in this time zone.................;) .................Go at it strong Jorge...........:arteest:

11 November 2004, 09:28 AM
Hey there! Great vision to work on there mate! Included a lot of elements on the composition! Waiting for the warriors!:bounce:

11 November 2004, 09:46 AM
I like the ship models. Maybe the color of the ship is quite strange- try to add some dirt when it is sandy color.
But great models

See this one>

11 November 2004, 01:39 AM (

heres my start on modeling Kinnah Warrior...plase give me advice for improving the shape of head...or if u look something is out of place just tell me...thanx

11 November 2004, 01:44 AM
thanx for the advice...ill be back on fixing the ships as soon as i finish the warrior...thanx!

Virtuoso: i started my warrior..please give some words of wisdom my friend...i wont sleep until i finish...thanx

terraarc: warrior modeling started!!!...

kaajey: thanx for your advice mate...i think is a nice one...ill add some dirt...thanx!

11 November 2004, 05:18 AM
Se esta viendo muy bien . Vas a detallarlo en Zbrush ? quizas puedas todavia agregar algunas arrugas en la parte de la frente.

Quizas tambien seria interesante el ver a este muchacho con los ojos un poco mas grandes , a mi parecer los veo chicos en comparacion con la nariz y la boca.

Is looking great Jorge . Keep rocking .:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 06:41 AM

looking good man... I've been working on a head also and I know how tough it is ;((

hard to tell from 1 angle, can u post more?
my 0.02c, for a warrior type of person, I think he's chin/jaw is little weak and soft. I think the ear should be a bit smaller

11 November 2004, 07:00 AM (

heres other update...

11 November 2004, 07:03 AM

i made this update before reading your advice...i will correct those things u said...thanx a lot for the im back to:wip:

11 November 2004, 09:10 AM
Hi jorge................

Ok my paso on the Kinnah Warrior................First off it's a very nice start and basically finished modeling wise.............As for any suggestions? let's see........This of course is mostly a taste thing.............I think his body is defined very well......Nice smooth modeling.......I think the body is showing off just the right amount of muscle for an agile warrior......As for the head I think the chin should be "Stronger".......Jut or stick it out a touch,make his jaw line a bit more square.....I think his head is done very well,but I think it should be made stronger,to match a fierce warrior's look,at least what I think a warrior should look like.......The nose looks a bit large,perhaps you could try to make it more "Hawk like".more thin on the bridge,and smaller and sharper at the tip..........

Again just small suggestions,what you have is really a nice piece of work....But my take is to become more rugged,tough,fierce looking he would need the above adjustments......I could be off to what you think Jorge.......But I want to give you an extra thought here,an extra set of eyes..........:) :arteest:

Ok,get to more,I'll be waiting for more as always......I know this is one great thread,and will just blossom all the more with time...........I'll be here to watch it all un-fold......See you soon Jorge,and keep up the exceptional work,it's great to watch you do your thing........:arteest:

11 November 2004, 04:25 PM (

hi friens...i made some teking as u suggested...

Adr: i made bigger the eyes ...not too much but i think they look better now....thanx

Versiden and virtuoso: i made the chin hrer...u think is enought?
i also made smaller the nose..h
what do you it better...or i must remake my changes?

thanx for the help is really very apreciated!

11 November 2004, 04:32 PM
oh...i wrote some mistakes on my last update:

friens: i meant :friends
teking: i meant : tweaking
hrer: i meant: harder
h: i meant: .:shrug:

and maybe theres others...sorry...this dam keyboardddrdxz!!

11 November 2004, 04:40 PM
in your situation is the keyboard, in mine is the poor english...

betuful textureing work and I'm impressed about the soldier modelling, very promising :buttrock:


11 November 2004, 05:03 PM
uka, sou, de provlem eez dat güi ar nut beri gud een inglich...


Suggestions & crits:

Humanoid concept- Go wild with the anatomic design! Inspire yourself in animals, think about different planet conditions and the way humanoid could adapt.

Humanoid body- The arm is too short and the wrist is not clear enough.

Humanoid face- The cheek is too squared to the front to the face; you can see it in the lateral view.

Sorry about my thread, I have some work to do:scream:

11 November 2004, 06:39 PM
Great to see some character work in progress here too (hmm, have to start on that as well sooner or later)... There are some issues with the character in its current state, but I think they have already been mentioned. Knowing your skillz, I feel entirely confident that it will end up looking absolutely perfect as always... Funny thing about your keyboard btw, I've got that problem too from time to time.

11 November 2004, 03:12 AM
Hi Jorge................I think he is much better.....Rugged and rough and tough warrior wise.....I can see the changes very well..............I still think the nostrils could be less flared out (Taste thing)........Plus perhaps to make him more "Noble" looking you could still try to narrow the bridge of the nose a touch,sleeker,I think this too will show more of a fierce lean fighting warrior......The chin is about 75% better from what I had in mind.....I still think when seeing him in profile the chin looks to drop off a bit,it still needs more strength,size,a jutting out look.......

It really is a fine model,my thoughts are strictly taste things,your modeling is clean and smooth...............I am just mentioning what I would do with a model in this circumstance,trying to put myself in your shoes here.....:arteest:

So.................My take is still a stronger chin,and a bit more of jaw line build up,with some leaning out of the nose........Again just a taste thing.....Because what you do have is already ready to go to texture World................Hope my extra two eyes help some Jorge,I admire your work,and expect and know this will be a wonderful entry..........See you on your next update Jorge.............:arteest: :beer:

11 November 2004, 04:15 AM
jddog: thanx friend!:)

mosconariz: gracias por tus sugerencias y observaciones...son de mucha ayuda...
thanx a lot friend!:thumbsup:

JamesMK:cant wait to see your character!:bounce:..thanx for the suppot!

Virtuoso: i realy apreciate your words...and of course four eyes are better than two...
i made some tweaking following your advice...please tell me if i did it fine...thanx for the support friend!!

heres the update.................

11 November 2004, 04:18 AM (

heres some tweaking...thanx for your help

11 November 2004, 04:20 AM
heres the older version of it:

11 November 2004, 05:21 AM
hey's my take on the chin area...maybe if you rotated forward the lower jaw around the chin and low lip...chose a rotate point in the center of the cheek, in line with the bottom of the nose...probably my sugestion dosen't make much sense,,,so feel free to ignore it :shrug: ... this is just an opinion, It look great right now, and will look primo with textures...noticed everyone talking about the jaw line though and though I'd throw in my 2 back to work you :wip:

11 November 2004, 06:56 AM
heya, funky stuff.. I dig comparing heads.. ;p

I think the cheek looks a bit flat, the edge is a bit hard at the smile lines...

It's hard to picture without the textured version, I think most ppl look strange without eyebrows - I wonder how other ppl approach this?

11 November 2004, 11:04 AM
Hi Jorge,

haven't seen your entries a long time - shame on me.....and mate: what a wonderful update:thumbsup:
Great character! Respect, man!
...but one little crit about the nasolabial folds...the front looks the side view the fold seems to be too strong imho ... but's only a little thing...
You go a straight way to the cg-heaven...keep it up, dude!:beer:

11 November 2004, 11:12 AM
hey man cool modeling so far!... just i think that proportions aren`t right! his ears are too big , esspecially that part down !
fix that !: D

11 November 2004, 01:54 PM
hey great face modeling man... nice work... keep it up! :thumbsup: :bounce: :applause:

11 November 2004, 09:24 PM
essencedesign:thanx for your comments...i will try what u suggested...u mean tu pull out the center of the chin right?

Versiden:thanx frien!..ill will try to fix it

Saschi0815: thanx a great to hear good crits about my work...but is better when they come from an exelent artist like u...thanx friend!!...oh and ill smooth a bit the lines u said:thumbsup:

markovicd.: thanx ...ill fix the ears...u have a point there and i will change it...thanx for your help

overcontrast: thank u man!


11 November 2004, 09:41 PM
Jorge................Yes it's much stronger now......I think with a bit more pulling out of the chin you should also widen the jaw line,make it more super hero like........It's really down to a taste thing,but for me I would like to see a more styliszed look a more caricature style,realistic toon look..............It really depends exactly what you have in mind,if you are up for more of this you should go for the more xxxagerated look,but if it's real you are basically spot on now......You want that realistic toon look more don't you,don',,,,;)

All turbo jets on Jorge,burn those jets at warp speed.............:arteest:

11 November 2004, 10:04 PM
You want that realistic toon look more don't you,don'
lol...yes thats the idea...thanx again my is time to boost the engines an finish this warrior...ill make the adjusments along with the next update will show more interesting things...:wip:

11 November 2004, 10:07 PM
I knew it...............:cool: :cool: ................bring on the fun.And strap on the booster jets Jorge........I'll be waiting............:arteest:

11 November 2004, 03:39 AM
Good job here pal, I wish u the best!

11 November 2004, 07:17 AM
Real good work here... but one thing disturb me... in the latest picture, there's 3 different view... like if there's 3 differents man... in the front view, he seem a strong man, the middle one, he seem more simpathic, and at right, more young... I think that's certainly due to the reducing form of the top of his face... and maybe too to the large base of his nose... only visible on the front view.

11 November 2004, 11:20 PM (

hi...heres the kinnah warrior...c&c welcome

11 November 2004, 11:23 PM
Virtuoso: thanx friend

Climax: thank u...i really apreciate that!

Lemog: thanx...i didnt notice that...thanx for your advice friend!!

11 November 2004, 11:28 PM

Pinche Jorge, ¡está de huevos!

11 November 2004, 11:45 PM
Amazing modeling, brilliant concept - I'm inspired! If there is anything to be improved in your warrior model, I think it would be the cross strap on the chest. Perhaps it should conform to the body more up around the collarbone... I know it's a small thing, but a model this awesome deserves to have every little detail perfect.

I'll definitely be watching this thread!

11 November 2004, 02:30 AM
mosconariz: gracias!

straightforward:thanx a lot for your words!:love:and thanx for the advice...i think you are right about it...and i will correct it...:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 03:31 AM
Se ve extremadamente bien Jorge , me gustan los detalles que tiene hasta el momento y particularmente las botas estan excelentes . La integracion que estas hacinedo con Zbrush en tu workflow esta dando resultado contundentes .

Saludos Jorge ,

Keep rockin mate is looking awesome , you have been doing a great work.:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:51 AM
adr: gracias por tus comentarios!!.... si son mis pininos con zbrush...pero estoy tratando de aprender rapido...!! pero tu si que aprendes rapido!!..nomas hay que ver lo que puedes hacer con un software que apenas vas conociendo!
...gracias ...saludos!!

11 November 2004, 06:20 AM
Damn, that model kicks ass, so much more than my stinky city! Cheers to you


11 November 2004, 06:20 AM
• YEAH! some Aztec warriors to kick some Alien Butts!

11 November 2004, 06:42 AM

looking awesome dude.. what else can I say ;p

hey - how did you do the top hair strands? is that splines or a hair plugin?

maybe you can give him some ear rings or other piercings ;p

keep up the good work!

11 November 2004, 07:56 AM
great finish on the warrior man...I knew you had a big update comming....the details are top notch...the boots look especialy greAT...keep on going...I know ther are great things to come... :applause:

11 November 2004, 09:58 AM
Hey man, this model is looking very good, I especially like the detailing on the front of the boots.

I'd say that his fingertips are a bit square, particularly the thumb and that his pectoral muscles are bulging out a bit too much to fit his generally quite slender physique. But this is just nit-picking.

Good stuff, looking forward to seeing him posed.

11 November 2004, 10:03 AM
Woohooo! ¡está de huevos muchos like a lot really!

Boots seem a bit too wide and flat (the foot bit... not much, but a little) and I have to second Swamps point about the pectoralis.... Overall top notch, really, yes :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 10:08 AM
OH yes! :bounce:

11 November 2004, 10:11 AM
Greatly executed! :thumbsup:
One thing I find kind of odd is his chest (but maybe it's the certain pose)

Keep it up mate

11 November 2004, 10:56 AM

Climax: lol...yeah something like that

Versiden: i made those hair strands with lofts...with not too much steps so they are not too heavy...and he has earrings...but maybe too small a good idea to make them visible...thanx!!

essencedesign: thanx...i really like the boots too :beer:!..thanx for your kind words!

Swamps: hi...youre right about everything u said...and im going to work on the flaws....thanx for the very apreciated!!

JamesMK: ROLF!!! did u know what u said?! ok friend...very inspiring words...thanx a lot...i really like to hear advice from u...u always have good tips for us!!...thanx!..ill fix the warrior!


terraarc: yes...everyone seems to agree about the chest...ill make the fix ....thanx for the interest!!

11 November 2004, 11:09 AM
JamesMK: ROLF!!! did u know what u said?!...
He he... not a clue. It sounded cool though :D

11 November 2004, 11:59 AM (

i made some adjusments as some of u suggested:

1.- i pulled back the chest...a bit.
2.- made feet a bit smaller
3.- make the middle chest band fits beter
4.- im working in making less box looking the fingers and in some more details like earrings and so ;)

11 November 2004, 12:01 PM
James: sounds nice man!...that words means...something like..."your work rocks"
so thanx a lot...hope it match with what u wanted to say! ;)

11 November 2004, 12:05 PM
That's totally agree me... I can't wait the textures now :bounce:

11 November 2004, 01:16 PM (

CARAMBA!!! :eek: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :eek:

11 November 2004, 01:26 PM
sweeeeet! your models are so cool, both the ships as well as the organics!:thumbsup:
great details! textures please:bounce:

11 November 2004, 01:27 PM
double posted :rolleyes:

gives me more to praise hehe

I didn't read any concept story behind your entry yet.
the character makes me think of some kind of wise man.
did you get inspiration from native tribes?

anyway, great stuff, but said that allready:)

11 November 2004, 05:33 PM
Hi Snake,

huh..your stuffs are coming along nicely.

This figure has good proportions and those chains on boots are so lovely.. will you add something more to his hands? weapon, etc...his right hand looks a bit "empty" now.
everything else is just perfect!! bowdown, wish u a lot of time on this project.

11 November 2004, 05:43 PM
Hey cool model and nice concept too.:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:50 PM
Oooh, warrior looks perfect... very "ethnic" touch too... :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:57 PM

Great modelling here :p! just that i want to say

I'll will keep an eye on this


11 November 2004, 07:11 PM
KennyM: thanx for your words.:love:about inspiration....i got it from . apaches and mayas.

Tremoside: hi friend im glad to see u here!!..what are u in or what? common say yes!!
ok hope u say yes.....okok
thanx for your words...i will make weapons for fact my scene will have some differents Kinnah warriors...some archers, some with swords...and some withshields...covering the others from ships attacks...all weapons will have a touch of magic...and will be very powerful stuff....thats the plan ;)
please stay around friend!

hhssuu:thank u!

JamesMK:thanx friend!

radu3: i apreciate your thougts...thanx for support!!

11 November 2004, 07:14 PM
DimitrisLiatsos and Lemog:: i really apreciate your

11 November 2004, 08:16 PM
Hi Jorge.............Well he has come along quite nicely,a pretty quick pace,and done with quality.............The face now has that look.......That more rugged,strong,fierce,hero look,he just looks the part now.......:thumbsup: .................I like your body work,and the thme,the tribal like appearance..................I was going to say the fingers,from what I can see looked a touch blocky,but I read you are onto fixing them a touch........I think you should,because a small thing like that can ruin the rest of the excellent modeling.........Plus seeing your past work I know you can do some excellent fingers....those tricky things that they are.............:wip: ;)

A full scale attck,a wild one is coming here,and I plan on watching it all.......Keep it in the fastest of lanes Jorge........all the best and go at it strong........:arteest:

11 November 2004, 10:55 PM
That warrior is very "Tribe-looking".
I guess he escaped Mad Max 3 because he was bored, and decided to join your grand space opera project looking for real action !!:D

Maybe you could round his biceps a little.
And I would try to scale down his head 95 or 98% down (yeah I know it's very precise but i'm some kind of a maniac you know...;) )

Anyway, your character already looks good. So keep up the good work !:buttrock:

11 November 2004, 08:04 AM
looking good mate... the back shot looking cool too...

a few suggestions tho ;p

I think pull the quadriceps down a little so his knee caps don't appear to be sticking out. They look a bit 'knobbly', his legs look quite muscular, but they stop too short where his knees start - um, hope u know what I'm trying to say..

and then frosting on the cake.. add his nipples, and it should look perfect, on to texturing..

11 November 2004, 10:49 AM (

hi an update on the skin for the warrior

11 November 2004, 10:51 AM (

more renders

11 November 2004, 10:55 AM
Virtuoso: hi friend...yes i tried to fix the fingers but some how in some views they look really nice..and sometimes boxy...i think is problem with my displacement map...i need to make some testing

Deadly Force:LOL!!
thanx for your advice friend...i didnt read until going to fix that ...

Versiden: oh...i just read your comments...i really apreciate help...i will chance the muscles shapes...thanx man!

11 November 2004, 05:30 PM
Jorge , wow la textura de piel de tu personaje esta bien fregona , realmente me gusta . Quizas el color de la ropa no me convence mucho en mi opinion , pero al final la decision es tuya , seria interesante ver algunos tests con las botas hechas de piel vieja no se . Las botas me recuerdan mucho a los esquimales y pues usan mucha piel en sus vestimentas .

Keep the hard work man . I really like the skin texture that you put in your char , maybe you can test with another coloros in his custom , but is a personal taste about it , you have the final word mate

11 November 2004, 08:39 PM

todavia no le pongo texturas a la ropa...solo fue la ropa todavia no le hago nada...solo le cambie el color a material base:D

The skin is the only one with textures right now...the rest....i will finish it today!!!
thanx for the support mate!!

11 November 2004, 08:47 PM
OK...first u are fast man... :eek:
...second i like it ..u can also play with the specularity of his skin more ..but i am not sure yet if this is a good advice....
...third..i like his hands very mucho! ..mui bien Ombre :scream: are giving me ideas ...... :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 10:09 PM (

ok...i made some adjusments on the specular...c&c welcome

11 November 2004, 10:11 PM
thanx a lot Dimi...i trying to adjust specularity...i get rid from some speckles it has at this level...please tell me what do u think

11 November 2004, 10:23 PM (

other little adjusment at the specular...i feel happy with this one ...i think ill keep it...

11 November 2004, 09:29 AM
Texturing looks great in the last one! :)

May we see a head close up?

Keep it up rattlesnake!

11 November 2004, 09:40 AM
Looking very nice Jorge......I can expect this from you.........I was thinking that eventually you could even consider adding more "tribal" like symbols or artifacts on your fleet of vessels as well,they will go well with your characters.........Your character has turned out very nice,the fingers are now as I had expected,and are very nice,well shaped............The textures are looking good too.......You have yet another very nice entry,lots of modles and all done with quality.........I'll be looking for more...........But you knoww that......;) :arteest:

11 November 2004, 08:55 PM
Hello... It's the first time I'm in your thread, where were you man? :)
You are doing great!!! Very good models, keep it up!

11 November 2004, 12:02 AM (

other little adjusment at the specular...i feel happy with this one ...i think ill keep it...

I really am not an expert but i also think that ..yes this is better...a thought also that came in my mind ..but i don't know if u will have good result....the grey Black noise that u have generally on his texture....if u blur that a bit ..does he look better or not..sorry i can't imagine it..just a thought ....This is great man..i like this guy very much...and i also think that u have achieve to give him that tribal look :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 02:38 AM
terraarc: yes im going to post a close up now...but i didnt make eyelashes cos it slow too much when rendering

Virtuoso:thanx for your words...and i think youe idea is very cool man...ill try it!


thank u man ..for the support...about the dark noise...i like this way...cos when i blur the texture gives a plastic look to the skin...thanx for the comment always welcome!

11 November 2004, 02:40 AM (

face close up...need some eyelashes...but this slow the rendering time too he is going to stay without them...ill probably add a big scar on the face next...

11 November 2004, 02:43 AM (

heres the texturing for the armor

11 November 2004, 02:45 AM (

perspective view....

and now riggin!!whooo

11 November 2004, 02:46 AM
really impressive my friend the textures really rocks . Are you painting your char in Zbrush man ?

Keep rockin:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 02:52 AM
ADR: thanx friend...i painted the body and the boots in z-brush...the other were paited in ps...

11 November 2004, 03:32 AM
Yup I agree as well, your textures rock. That's one sexy looking soldier heh heh


11 November 2004, 03:33 AM
• Looking good! Jorge, is Zbrush also a 2D paint program?? I thought it was only a modeler! :banghead:
• Great textures!
• Your model is also good, but I see torax and Knees too rounded
• Other than that it is cool

Great job, keep going it promise a very interesting final Image

11 November 2004, 04:56 AM
Finissssssssssssssssssssssh ?????
great job :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:27 AM
keetmun: thanx very much! i apreciate it!

Climax: yes zbrush is also fact is 2.5d ...thats the best way to explain it! thanx for your words almost!...thanx a lot

11 November 2004, 06:44 AM
looking good mate...

I wouldn't go so far as eyelashes, I think you wouldn't really see those details... maybe u could add them in post later.

texturing is really nice, scars would add more of a history and a sense of experience.

11 November 2004, 07:05 AM
Great Work Jorge... very impressive... I find these textures... this aspect very sweet... I think it's so important for the global mood... :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 07:56 AM
The Last Post.....Amazing...go ssssnake! .....U imported any textures in ZBrush or u painted them in it from Scratch ?...really interesting :love:

11 November 2004, 08:24 AM
Looking awesome of course! The skin shader needs something more to come alive, but the textures look pretty much perfect... The mad mexican/aztec warrior is on his way to terrorise the neighbourhood :scream:

11 November 2004, 08:40 AM
The close up looks perfect and the texturing progress too....

Sticking here for more! :)

11 November 2004, 12:24 PM
Nice again Jorge on this latest update.........I think eye lashes can be left in post.I think you could also consider beeds as extras................Nice painting jorge,the textures look real nice.I would add feathers too,and war paint? Perhaps decorations and symbols too on weapons?.......Ok I'll be stopping by again as you continue Jorge,keep it up,your doing a very nice job,and it's great to follow your progress.............:arteest: :beer:

11 November 2004, 10:09 PM
Versiden: i need to find some scar reference it look real...thanx for support mate

Lemog: thanx friend!

DimitrisLiatsos:thank u...yeah i painted from the scratch...:arteest:

JamesMK:yeas i think youre right about skin...illsee what can i do...thanx


Virtuoso: yes i was also thinkin in some war planning to put some different looking warrioirs in my scene...but using the same model...i will only change the tone of the skin a bit and add different scars and war pait....thanx for the idea man!!

11 November 2004, 10:29 PM
The maps look great so liven up the skin I'd raise the diffuse levels a bit over 100%. .. :shrug: ...that's lightwave talk though :argh: ..might help in your department... on it would really help it glow dude....keep it up looking great :buttrock:

11 November 2004, 11:12 PM
Very nice model and texture too

11 November 2004, 10:01 AM
impressive... I can tell you only impressive... :applause:

11 November 2004, 10:40 AM (

heres a little test of my rig...and now i need some sleep...cya

11 November 2004, 10:42 AM
essencedesign: thnax for your help...i need to listen to you if i want to get some great results like yours!!!...

macoD: thanx man!

jddog: thanx a lot friend!:love:

11 November 2004, 11:04 AM
rattle this is awsome!

11 November 2004, 11:13 AM
WAY TO GO LESCALE!!:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 12:50 PM
hey great charecter and nice rigging too..!! keep up the good works

11 November 2004, 01:06 PM
You showoff................;) :arteest: ................Look at you showing off that rig with your warrior resting his hand on the Window edge.......Nice touch jorge,and nice rig work..........:cool:

Looking real good Jorge,he looks quite ready for action.................bring it strong,I know you will.......:arteest:

11 November 2004, 01:20 PM
What to say.... just awsome! I would only add some war paints on his face and maybe a small ones on his chest.

11 November 2004, 01:35 PM
Great work :thumbsup:
I like a lot the Ships

11 November 2004, 05:30 PM
Great rig work here apparently :bounce: All very stylish. He looks like a nice guy, though you'd better not make him your enemy.... The skin still suffers a bit from the 'bronze zombie' problem, but then I'm not sure how he will be lit and so on for the final... Stunningly good work here, Jorge.

11 November 2004, 07:00 PM

11 November 2004, 08:52 PM
very impressive mate, the finishing touches would be to add some facial animation..

I'm interested to know how you rigged the clothing in that pose...


11 November 2004, 10:15 PM
...very cool char u got here, Jorge:thumbsup: Looks fabulous, mate!

11 November 2004, 05:48 PM
So, you made it, Congratz! This is a very nice rig :scream:

11 November 2004, 06:02 PM
markovicd,Climax,overcontrast:thanx a lot mates:love:

Virtuoso:Yes he seems ready to action!!...thanx for your support friend

arturro:thanx for the advice mate...i will add war paint to thi warrior!

SUN: thanx man!

JamesMK: thanx friend...i will make more test for the skin soon!

DimitrisLiatsos:NUTS!!...LOL i must say i agree with ya,,,,LOL!

Versiden: im moving the clothes very easily...since this wont be animated...for this challenge at least...i decided to pose the clothes moving its vertex...i made the clothes with just a few vertices rows , this makes very easy to manage the clothes using a soft selection...i just linked the cloth to the shoulderpads...:wise:

Saschi0815: thanx friend

mosconariz: yeah...i made it!! now this guy is ready to rock!! thanx for your support friend!!

11 November 2004, 06:15 PM
Really nice rig mate is looking amazing mate . Keep going :bounce:

11 November 2004, 08:43 AM
ADR: gracias!!...aprecio mucho tus comentarios!!

12 December 2004, 09:44 AM (

this is the first pose for one of the warriors on the scene....i added some paint in the face along with some expresion to it...comments are welcome...this one will be the closest warrior to he will be the most detailed one

12 December 2004, 09:46 AM
please click image for a bit bigger image:thumbsup:

12 December 2004, 09:49 AM
beautiful :applause: + :eek: and texture are wonderful !


12 December 2004, 10:06 AM
Great work man! :thumbsup: Really great!:thumbsup:

12 December 2004, 10:16 AM
I'm dead Jorge... I'm really on the floor... It's really marvelous... the pose is very strong... a good feeling... colors are sweet... a terribly good work :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I know what your warrior want... to kill Alexander and his Rapid'Dragon...

12 December 2004, 10:30 AM
Hey Suckerpunch fartswell needs a bodyguard Jorge................bring that bad boy over to my universe...........Suckerpunch does'nt pay well,and he can be quite the bastard,but he will let your warrior ride on the steel steed,and cause trouble for the Wee steambots.That can be fun,those poor lil'Steambots..............By the flexible fingers,nice rigging.......Looking real nice Jorge.Love the pose,keep the eye candy coming,bring it strong Jorge..............:arteest: :arteest:

12 December 2004, 12:21 PM
Great pose :thumbsup: He needs a bumpmap on his nipples :D No, seriously...

Looking grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreat!

12 December 2004, 12:27 PM
Great pose :thumbsup: He needs a bumpmap on his nipples :D No, seriously...

man I worry about you,

Jorge, I have only played ounce or twice with a friends bow, but I don't believe the hand pulling the string back is positioned correctly :)

12 December 2004, 04:47 PM
jddog: :love:


Lemog: I know what your warrior want... to kill Alexander and his Rapid'Dragon... lol...yes indeed..he will be hunting him ...but rapid dragon is too fast for him
thanx for your words man!!

Virtuoso:bodyguad? sound interesting...imagine this friends together!! sounds great isnt it?...okok...but he really want to ride the steel steed ok?
thanx for the support friend...u always here:)

JamesMK:thanx youre right about nipples...i forgot to add the bump for them...thanx...ill do it..

flyingP:yes im with u ....the hand should face more to the neck...but i cant make the arm bones twist correctly for this purpose...and the arm suffers an ulgy deformation...twist your arm and u can see how your wrist and bones of the arm twist...this is what i cant achieve with the biped im using...if u have a clue on how to solve that i will really apreciate the help...thanx for the advice man:love:

12 December 2004, 04:55 PM
flyingP:yes im with u ....the hand should face more to the neck...but i cant make the arm bones twist correctly for this purpose...and the arm suffers an ulgy deformation...twist your arm and u can see how your wrist and bones of the arm twist...this is what i cant achieve with the biped im using...if u have a clue on how to solve that i will really apreciate the help...thanx for the advice man:love:

actually I have seen a number of rigs that solve this usually using extra bones in the forearm and a xpression that controlls their banking movement, in other words bones in the arm closer to the wrist twist more but the elbow stays stable... not sure if that helps :shrug:

12 December 2004, 05:04 PM
...twist your arm and u can see how your wrist and bones of the arm twist...this is what i cant achieve with the biped im using...
Yeah, that's a tricky nut to crack... thank god for low-poly toony characters :D ... otherwise I guess the pig makes a good suggestion. Another way is to add an FFD deformer or similar to the part controlled by the lower arm bone (the bone would also be the parent of the deformer), twist the lower bone until the hand lines up as intended, then repair the damage done using the FFD and finally set up an expression that drives the FFD influence based on the banking of the lower arm bone.

12 December 2004, 05:05 PM
actually I have seen a number of rigs that solve this usually using extra bones in the forearm and a xpression that controlls their banking movement, in other words bones in the arm closer to the wrist twist more but the elbow stays stable... not sure if that helps
yes that helps a lot friend!!! thanx...i thought that maybe biped can make this with out creating extrabones...but i think i must do it the way u told me.... really thanx!:thumbsup:

12 December 2004, 05:08 PM
JamesMK: hmmm interesting idea...sounds cool from my point of view...i will try that ...thanx for the help...:bounce:

12 December 2004, 05:15 PM
Though I would certainly try the Pig's suggestion first. He has after all more experience with rigging than I do :wise:

12 December 2004, 05:18 PM
You're character modelling is outstanding; the color pallette on your textures are very rich! I especially like how you have designed those various ships, particularly the smaller fighter jet. The level of creativity is nothing short of amazing. Keep up the great work and best of luck in the challenge!