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10 October 2004, 04:11 PM
Jari Saarinen has entered the Grand Space Opera 3D.

10 October 2004, 04:15 PM
it's time for battle.
Good luck.

10 October 2004, 04:26 PM
Yeah, good luck pufferfish.
It's going to be a tough challenge when you are entered in.

10 October 2004, 04:40 PM
it's time for battle.
Good luck.Choisissez vos armes!...hehe! Cheers.

grafi: Thank you. I'll try my best.

10 October 2004, 05:38 PM
ok.. about the idea and story behind it...
I was thinking of going somewhere with the idea of deep space exploration and a maiden voyage ... Most likely a disastrous one...

Now I need to find the "do it in epic scope" button.

10 October 2004, 06:04 PM
Excellent to see you're in on it - I kinda missed you in the last one.

Good luck finding that button :D

10 October 2004, 06:56 PM
:bounce: Nice to cya in this one man...have fun!

10 October 2004, 07:04 PM
So, it's guranteed to be a tough one. ;)

Good luck, Puffy.


10 October 2004, 07:08 PM
woow, after seen your great web site... man :thumbsup:
good luck !


10 October 2004, 10:34 PM
Welcome Pufferfish...............:beer: Well a challenge of epic proportions for sure.I look forward to your rendition,and expect some beautiful eye candy..............All the best and here is to space operas.............:beer:

10 October 2004, 10:41 PM
woo it's Pufferfish :) you always inspired me with your work, this will be fun to challenge you :wip:

10 October 2004, 11:14 PM
ooh I like the idea of a maiden voyage with disastrous results. I had tossed around an idea of that type but went with something else. good luck!

10 October 2004, 12:24 AM
Sounds like an interesting concept. I will keep an eye on it.

10 October 2004, 02:06 AM
Now I want to enter in this challenge too! :deal:
Just time enough.

Good luck, my friend.


10 October 2004, 02:44 AM
Oooooh... a pufferfish entry! Can't wait!:D

10 October 2004, 05:51 AM
JamesMK: Yep, it's great to be able to take part on this. Good luck to you too :)

Antropus: Would have been a pleasure to compete against you ... to be true, thank god you don't have time! ;)

DimitrisLiatsos,Gavin_G,jddog,Virtuoso,Panupat,percydaman,superlayer,erilaz: Thanks guys!

I will send some rough concepts as soon as possible.


10 October 2004, 06:59 PM
good luck pufferfish

10 October 2004, 11:45 PM
Yo Jari. I seriuosly look forward to seeing your entry progress!

Good luck mate! Not that you need it... ;)

10 October 2004, 12:07 AM
Yay, it's gonna be hard for the ones who make challenge for the first time... (like me :sad: ) but i definitely keep my 4 eyes on your work :D

Good luck !

10 October 2004, 12:51 AM (

I'm currently thinking of doing the scene of The Finding of the Ilmatar. Ilmatar is the ship which encountered a disastrous ending while in it's maiden voyage. It was the first ever interstellar ship that was especially made for deep space exploration.

The scene will be a shot after several hundreds.. maybe thousands of years after that mysterious and sad voyage.

Ilmatar name comes from the Finnish Mythology "Kalevala" - Derived from Finnish ilma "air". In Finnish mythology Ilmatar was a semi-androgynous goddess of the heavens ... I thought it would suit :D

I'm still sketching how the Ilmatar will look, so what you see in this first sketch may change totally.


10 October 2004, 12:56 AM
very god idea! and nice concept!

i really like it :D :D

good luck!

10 October 2004, 01:12 AM
I like the mix of brilliant blues , will make for an interesting palette in 3D

good luck !!

10 October 2004, 01:21 AM
Great sketch and I do like the idea of referencing the Kalevala. I read it (in it's English translation I'm afraid to say - my Finnish is not up to scratch despite living there for almost 2 years) and it's an amazing piece of work. Any one remotely interested in mythology and indeed, modern fantasy should grab a copy - after all, Tolkien was quite strongly inspired by it.

Will add this thread to my favourites.


10 October 2004, 04:31 AM
Good Luck :thumbsup:

Wow nice sketch, like the compo

10 October 2004, 06:51 AM

That's a lovely concept... the image is so expressive!! I love the blues and especially the brush strokes. There's some wonderful concepts in the 3D section!!

I like the idea of such a colossal ship which after so much time is almost an archaelogical relic...

Good luck!!

10 October 2004, 06:56 AM
Kalevala meets Event Horizon - I like it... Lovely sketch too!

10 October 2004, 07:30 AM
great start for that one, colors are so nice, are you planning to draw more sketches for that Huge construction with the big aircraft near it, i realy want to see them more closely and i'm sure the details will be amazing because you like to make huge nomber of polys in one scene.
huh as usual right. :drool:

10 October 2004, 07:48 AM
Hello there, rather innovative approach to the subject! Good starting...:thumbsup:

10 October 2004, 07:50 AM
cool setup , dude , very cool :)

btw , where my fish at ? :P

10 October 2004, 09:35 AM
nice concept, definitely full of potential. Keep it up my friend.

10 October 2004, 09:48 AM
Thanks for the comments everyone! Very much appreciated.

unitstudio: Thank you. Even though Ilmatar is just a name of the ship, I think it gives a nice feeling to overall scene. If you know the origins of the name and it's meaning, it kinda creates a certain depth to a whole event ... hehe I hope that made some sense.

JamesMK: Event Horizon came to my mind also, after finished this sketch... and thanks to you, I downloaded the "Artrage" and instantly liked it. Did the sketch with it :beer:

Designer2: Yep, more concepts coming up. Close ups etc.. I don't want to think about the polygons yet, but surely there will be some details :D

Squibbit: thanks! ... and your fish is coming up slowly but surely :D

m@: I will try :D.. cheers


10 October 2004, 09:55 AM
I downloaded the "Artrage" and instantly liked it. Did the sketch with it :beer:
Good to hear that, it's quite lovely in it's simplicity. And just like I said, somebody actually capable of painting was indeed instantly able to make something cool with it :D

10 October 2004, 05:14 PM
I really like the composition of your sketch. I look forward to seeing the finished piece.

10 October 2004, 08:05 PM
Wow amazing concept art:thumbsup: . Nice short concept but it is really cool, can't wait to see your
3d work.

10 October 2004, 08:38 PM
good luck to you!:)

10 October 2004, 09:33 PM
Checking your previous work, I'm sure you'll make cool stuff! That detail (or fake ;) ) will work perfect with this theme I think (I've been also insprirated by your work, a bit :) ).

The sketch looks indeed really nice! (Artrage ís really great, you feel so much like real painting without getting dirty hands ;) ).

Best luck from Holland,


[ps; check your mail :) ]

10 October 2004, 01:05 AM (

Here is my second concept. Shot above the planet surface. This concept lacks seriously some depth and detail, but I'm aiming for the image where Ilmatar has crashed long time ago on some planet. Ilmatar will be partially above the clouds and top of it will be snow covered. I really want to make it look massive.
Also, design of the Ilmatar won't be like this either, this is just an odd test which I did without giving it a much thought :).. still searching the right one. Same goes with composition.

more coming soon..


10 October 2004, 01:12 AM
Wow! Your concept is really stunning! Nice details on the ship, I really dig it and Can't wait to see what you're going to do with it!

10 October 2004, 04:17 AM
Hey there, nice concept so far. I think the crux of this image would be having the stark difference between the ship and Ilmatar, which could look very or rather extremely out of this world..both in design and in physics.

Looking forward to this. ;)


10 October 2004, 04:34 AM
Awesome work, Puffy. Not much to comment other than that, or what you've already mentioned :P

10 October 2004, 06:28 AM
Great concept art. I personally like the first concept better, I think it has a "grand-er" feel to it.

I look forward to your progress.

10 October 2004, 06:50 AM
My vote is for the second concept...the forms, palette, and dynamic composition are all great.


10 October 2004, 07:09 AM
Pufferfish... on your last one I can only :drool: . Wonderful!

10 October 2004, 07:18 AM
Great composition there! I vote for No 2 too, :thumbsup:

10 October 2004, 08:57 AM
I don't understand every part of your 2nd sketch but i'm looking forward to see more, the colors are nice anyway...

10 October 2004, 09:04 AM
Great feel and colors in that one my friend.. just keep going, I know you still not got what you have in mind ;)

10 October 2004, 10:52 AM
JamesMK,ChrisThatGuy,madshooter,centavrus: Thank you!

Dutchman: Thanks, email checked and replied :)

ymonkato,Gavin_G,unitstudio,jddog,terraarc: Thanks, appreciated!

dom: interesting point you have, gotta give some thought to it, thanks.

Rex3d: I still have not totally abandoned my first idea, but currently this second one feels more grander at least in my head :). It will have more depth and scale but this concept lacks both of those and really could use some scale reference too.

cipher:thanks, hopefully the next one will enlighten you more, I will make things more visible :)

m@.: cheers, hopefully I manage to find the right things from my mind :)

Little story update with concept coming soon...


10 October 2004, 11:05 AM
Hi Jari.......................While I like your first concept very much I would choose your second one.It has this "Mood" to it.Beautiful color balance.And I think it will be both beautiful and surreal in it's crashed position,a bit sad but epic and grand.:arteest:

10 October 2004, 02:52 PM
Does the name Ilmatar have some connection with kalevala epic?
Actually Ilmatar is an old estonian name, too!
It means something like weather maker or so...
If we dig deeply in our myths and and tales, those might give a lot of inspiration!
BTW i like your last concept and the design of the ship :)
Great work! :bounce:

10 October 2004, 04:03 PM
Does the name Ilmatar have some connection with kalevala epic?
Actually Ilmatar is an old estonian name, too!
It means something like weather maker or so...
If we dig deeply in our myths and and tales, those might give a lot of inspiration!
BTW i like your last concept and the design of the ship :)
Great work! :bounce:
Thanks Taavi,

You are right, Ilmatar comes from the Kalevala :)

ILMATAR: A Finnish goddess, Daughter of the Air. She created the world, and is the mother of Väinämöinen. Sometimes she is called Luonnotar, Daughter of Creation.

I really love all kind of mythology and tales. That is one reason why I chose Ilmatar as a name for my ship and I think it suits pretty well. Though, In my image the goddess of heavens has come down :\


10 October 2004, 04:09 PM
Oh, the mother of Väinämöinen! Why didn't you say so in the first place - then we would have known from the very start what you were talking about. :D

Btw, the second sketch is lovely - very pufferfishy as well, so I just bet you're going with that one in the end :wise:

10 October 2004, 05:44 PM
hey! really nice sketch! the idea is good, I´m looking forward! good luck!:thumbsup:

10 October 2004, 06:05 PM
Very nice drawings!! .... my vote for the second one, I think its more dinamic and impressive ...

Good luck to you ...... I'll follow your work

10 October 2004, 08:05 PM
I wish you the best of luck!
I like your style! Really promising ideas!

I think it's a great honour to participate in a competition with people with great talent such as you.

10 October 2004, 11:26 PM
coñio. nice. :bowdown:

10 October 2004, 07:02 AM
JamesMK: hehe, you familiar with Väinämöinen? :D.. and thanks, you are probably right, I think I'm gona go with the second one with some changes. Actually started to do some concept modelling.

luciano berutti,emonimo,CobraX: Thank you, appreciated!

WazaR: coñio.. er..thanks I guess :)


10 October 2004, 11:04 AM
I vote for your second concept:thumbsup: . It has a lot of depth and ofcourse nice colours and mood.

10 October 2004, 12:12 PM
didnt checked it out b4... man this is awesome.. i really love that spaceship crashin concept... the drawing is totally mind blowin... keep it up.... and make it happen man cuz it is happenin!!.... :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bounce: :bounce: :applause: :applause:

10 October 2004, 04:48 PM
Amazing second sketch!! I very like it! :eek: :eek:

10 October 2004, 10:42 PM
Both concept sketches are fantastic...... more more more :applause:

10 October 2004, 04:29 PM
those are some awesome sketches..

lots of inspiration...... thank u

11 November 2004, 06:27 PM
I think the last image has some great potential. I like the feel of it.

11 November 2004, 04:58 PM
hey men nice sketch
it has a nice and motional mood.
don't come out of it:thumbsup:

11 November 2004, 05:04 PM
Sketch one onlyyyyyyyyyy

11 November 2004, 08:36 PM
topnotch sketches. am speechless. and i'll be mute... for the 3d ver.:thumbsup: godspeed!

11 November 2004, 10:42 PM
there's something strong there, i like it

11 November 2004, 11:12 AM
Jari where are you? we miss your posts and you :cry:

11 November 2004, 08:55 AM
Thanks guys, I really appreciate your comments.

centavrus: Thank you for your kind words :) I've been pretty quiet with the challenge lately, but I have worked on it and hopefully will have something to show you soon :)


ps. Like m@ admitted in his thread, World of Warcraft has lured me into its voids too. Often when I have time for the challenge, I suddenly realise I've been kicking some mobs butt instead of doing the challenge. Dangerous game it is.

11 November 2004, 09:04 AM

11 November 2004, 09:16 AM
yarg, I know what u mean!

and when Half Life 2 hits, I'm sure alot of entries won't finish.. haha

11 November 2004, 09:34 AM
:cry: this game is too good .... Jari ! be stronger than me!


11 November 2004, 09:58 AM
Man you are awesome.
I think the second image is better (I've made it my background picture already:))
Keep going.:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

11 November 2004, 10:31 AM
I resisted the temptation to sign up...and I'm gonna resist HL2...*does a gollum face....its miiiiine....*

11 November 2004, 10:53 AM
I resisted the temptation to sign up...and I'm gonna resist HL2...*does a gollum face....its miiiiine....*

11 November 2004, 12:18 PM
Wow this is a very strong concept.... Hope to see it in 3d soon!


11 November 2004, 11:01 AM
:argh: where are your updates ?

11 November 2004, 11:15 AM
:argh: where are your updates ?

shhhhhhhhhhs... if I were you, I would be quiet. *sharpens his secret weapon and teeth*


11 November 2004, 01:04 PM
M@-i think we should start taking bets as to when he actually looking at 3 weeks from thursday. 5:1 odds....anybody? Anybody?

11 November 2004, 01:05 PM
mm I say when he finishes HL2 and WoW - oh wait, WoW is a mmorpg, you can't finish it ...then, I dunno :shrug:

11 November 2004, 01:41 PM
hehe, WoW traps another in it's web... lol, all your base are belong to us ;p

well, HL2 is about 17-20hours of gameplay, so in theory the delay in minimal.. but there is the multiplayer to that.. damn, sorry for you Putterfish ;p


11 November 2004, 03:22 PM
Well, all I can say is GTA:SA. You probably know the rest of the story.

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