View Full Version : Pa Challenge - character - Cerreto

02 February 2002, 08:36 AM
just a fast sketch im thinking of doing a girl with alot of gear not sure may do a big ol ugly dude with tubes too well see (bad sketch i know but it was just a concept

Adam Klein
02 February 2002, 08:45 AM
why not go for broke and do a chick with tubes? it could be sweet. I like the idea you have going.


02 February 2002, 10:10 AM
did you say a chick with boobs? ;)

02 February 2002, 03:28 PM
so there STILL are some chicks during the aftermath of the disaster? :D :D i thought only men, and women called brumhilde would survive the disaster..
Nice concept BTW

02 February 2002, 07:37 PM
oh my god, she is cute! now, make her reality and let me marry her! :D

02 February 2002, 08:15 PM
She sure is cute. I think a girl that cute might be a target for all those hardened PA men. ;) Give her a backpack and pants instead of a skirt. Can't wait to see the model WIPs!

02 February 2002, 08:23 PM
yes if i decide on this girl ill be adding alot of difrent things this sketch was more for a genreal idea for my self but pants backpack bigger belts etc are a must

02 February 2002, 08:25 PM
Hey, she looks lonely. Me thinks she needs a pet. :) How about that funky dog you were making?

02 February 2002, 08:28 PM
thats the plan that ugly beast needed a cute owner

02 February 2002, 08:37 PM
I think you have an excellent running concept going. I'm especially fond of the hat design. Looks like it would be a fun and challengeing character to model. Looking foward to more updates. And yes she should have a pet.


02 February 2002, 09:01 PM
nice concept trav, if you can manage to carry that cuteness over to 3D you're set, I also wait to see what you intend to add accessories

02 February 2002, 09:08 PM
very cute :D and an excellent concept

tho add some grim aspect too :D:D:D:D

02 February 2002, 09:19 PM
Im actualy considering doing the girl as a lil ray of hope in a grim world her acesories will show that the world is a hostile place , goggles back pack weopon gear but her look will try and be cute ,with a mutated puppy

My thinkingis that the few people that would be left would have an after effect feeling, while you would definetly need protection from bandits , the majority of people will be suffering from depression and the effects that follow major devastation. My girl will be out on a search to bring survivors back to a small comunity that has come out of the devastation fairly in tact . Knowledge and skill will replace money as profesions like doctors and teachers enginers are in high demand to keep civilazation civilized, the goal now is to feed and keep healthy as well as come up with alternative power sources to keep humans alive without it all is lost

also the reason for the cutness is its easy to get surivors to follow ;)

blah blah blah


02 February 2002, 09:18 PM

heres a rough draft ill be redoingg most of the features adding more realistic eye lashes eyes, new lips to match the sketch etc but this is the general idea

02 February 2002, 09:25 PM
lw poweeer :D good il like it :)

02 February 2002, 09:45 PM

02 February 2002, 12:36 AM
Damn u! U are soo fast man... Grrrrrrrrrr =)

don't know how u do it.

02 February 2002, 12:38 AM
Does she have a sister???

Damn clean model..nice work.

02 February 2002, 05:54 AM
Oh my god she is...she is...ALLY McBEAL !!!! AAAAAAAA

Ž_Ž no men, it's a joke, pretty model, i like it so much and you are VERY fast hehe

02 February 2002, 05:00 PM
falling behind ya bum :) ( thread n page 2 )
overall good work. didnt care much for the drawing, but the model is very good so far. already told ya about the lip problem and such.

and got to give ya props for the cool hat mate :)

02 February 2002, 08:00 AM
heres a small update mostly tiny detail on the head pice lips eyes on to the body crits welcome

Dan Dixon
02 February 2002, 08:46 AM
nice trav good job on fixing the lip and eyes still need a bit of work but great improvment. I better speed up to get up to ya .good work man

02 February 2002, 08:55 AM
really smooth ... love the hat.. but i sort of dont like the way the ear peices just sort of hang there.. they seem quite heavy and the goggles seem to hang from them too... i just dont think they would stay there on their own.. maybe you know something i dont.. (like they strap around the bottom back side of the head or something)

but appart from that the face is looking really good.. i like the proportions .. the eyes show alot of that "hope" u were talking about...

02 February 2002, 01:31 PM
umm the neck and torso are not atached or defined the torso neeeds some tweaking the breast are a lil big and tone down the rib cage shell have a shirt so im not going for perfection crits welcome

02 February 2002, 01:33 PM
I really like the way this model is taking shape. And you are fast. Good work!:)

02 February 2002, 02:05 PM
oops forgot these somone just reminded me ;)

02 February 2002, 02:07 PM
hehe . . . ooh are those bullets on your titties or are you just glad to see me :P

lovin it my friend.

02 February 2002, 02:12 PM
yeah, i like it, ir reminds me my girlfriend hehehe

02 February 2002, 02:27 PM

ok no more nudey pic s today stop asking LOL cant wait to get some clothes on her

02 February 2002, 02:55 PM
you know, i think she's doing just fine without clothes. :D

02 February 2002, 05:28 PM
great work!

clean model, nice design.

I like it.....


big b
02 February 2002, 06:16 PM
UH, Um.......... Dude, Like.......

All I have to say is.........

DAMN!!!! She's fine.

02 February 2002, 07:22 PM
great start, I have a suggestion, your models tend to be very ruff and muscular, considering she's a female :) try to soften up her body a little.. Get rid of the immense amount of muscular baby fat so to speak, :)

02 February 2002, 07:28 PM
she is cuter in 3d than in 2d .. :-)
i dont find the 2d concepte so nice..
but the 3d rock !!! :-)


02 February 2002, 07:29 PM
aw man . . . yur on the frontpage AGAIN . . .

excellent work man, tho it looks like she has double nipples :eek:

02 February 2002, 08:07 PM
Damn you're fast! I'm diggin' the model, but don't you think the nipples are a bit of an overkill? ;)

02 February 2002, 08:58 PM
overkill is my specialty LOL if its challenging i want to try it and belive me they are chalenging ;) so ill try to do every detail i can to challenge myself

02 February 2002, 09:21 PM
another incredible start. Please continue to overachieve. :D

02 February 2002, 09:38 PM
well Trav nice start! This could turn out to be your best model yet.

After chattin with you and mr dixon i decided i should enter this challenge too. Post apocolyptic is kinda my bag anyway. I'll get a WIP shot up here pretty soon.



02 February 2002, 09:43 PM
Thanks D glad to see your in !:)

02 February 2002, 09:51 PM
Hey Travis,
Nice start on yer little lady there! A couple comments on things that stand out to me are the ribcage which is reallly over pronounced and the belly button which is very high. The proportions are tweaked but I'd say too much in those cases. Great noggin. :D

02 February 2002, 09:54 PM
thanks mucky excelent feed back i was just trying to decide if the belly button was too high and the body is getting softened up alot now ill post an update in a while pleas keep an eye out and be as harsh as you need to be !


02 February 2002, 10:33 PM
forgot to mention watch her back carefuly, especially her lower back and her back ribs, the proportions and everything are way off their, look at a pic for reference or something :) it almost looks like her ribs are coming out backside out or something, make the back a little flatter. :)

02 February 2002, 12:19 AM trying to take all your advice the upper chest is nextbutts got to be kinda big to hold up her belts and all her gear shell have ]

02 February 2002, 12:28 AM
looking better :)

02 February 2002, 12:33 AM
Umm. I think I need to head down to the grocery store and stock up on some hand lotion. :D :D :D Cerreto, I gotta ask: How the hell do you model so well so fast? Arg, yer too fast! :) At this rate, I hope you plan to build her a vehicle and landscape, fully textured and lit animation of her basking in the Post Apocalyptic sun, sipping a Mai Tai singing 'Material Girl'. Well, ok, maybe you won't have time to do all that, but keep an open mind. :)

02 February 2002, 12:50 AM
Great model. Can't wait to see her finished. How's the "pet" going?

02 February 2002, 10:16 AM
Heya cerreto. Nice work.
Being a newbie to this forum I'm not familiar with everyone here yet. Can ya tell me what platform u model in? Max, Maya, LW...? And is that nurbs or polys? Hard to tell when polys r smoothed out.


02 February 2002, 08:51 PM
Hi dave recognise your name from some where maybe newtek forums ? I currently use LW and am trying to learn maya in my free time but i have no free time !

This is just a small update will try to get some of her gear together today back pack some elbow high gloves a gas mask etc

02 February 2002, 08:57 PM
aw man, that's just pure excellence . . . .

I'm REALLY gonna enjoy watching this come to a finished model my friend.
Better step on it myself too . . . can't let her wander around without a protector ;)

02 February 2002, 09:00 PM

02 February 2002, 09:30 PM
Like it alot Cerreto she has a whole lot of character for being half finished. :)

02 February 2002, 10:16 PM
Your model is better and better!
Clothes and glasses are very beautifull!!!

Just a little critic...the curve on the bottom of her eyes has a brake!(la courbe a une french).
i think that without this one she will be more beautifull.
(but just my opinion...)

very nice!
One of my favorit.

Facial Deluxe
02 February 2002, 10:28 PM
Are you REALLY sure you want to put a gaz mask on her face ?:mad:



02 February 2002, 12:35 AM
Man, she got nailed by that nuke. Her skin looks deep fried :) :)

02 February 2002, 12:43 AM
hehe i like how you changed her shik colour and made it a bit darker, makes it seem like shes been fried from being too close to a n-explosion :)

02 February 2002, 01:28 AM
lol those are just colored to seperate tha parts for now

02 February 2002, 05:24 AM
I think this babe need a weapon cause itīll be very dangerous for so a nice girl - nice work

02 February 2002, 05:43 AM
yo trav,

heres my crit:

The thing on her head looks a little odd. Is it supposed to be a cloth hat? It looks a little formless. Her head also bugs me a bit, something is a little off with the feratures. The mouth for one (i know your aware of this), seems a little pinched, and the bottom lip looks way to big in proportion to the top lip. The corners of they eyes look somewhat unatural too - but maybe I'm just seeing the eyelashes?? I like the goggles and head gear in general, but get rid of that gao sales girl microphone. Or mabe modify it a bit, i dunno - it looks too generic. What about tightening her shirt at the waist to punch up the silouette a bit? Right now its too square.

Anyway, hope you dont think I'm bein too harsh, but everyone seems to be so 'thats friggin awesome!' C'mon people lets get some good ideas flowin here, everyone will benefit.


02 February 2002, 06:01 AM
constructive crit is a beutiful thing ! Thank you

Ok the lips and eyes will be heavily tweaked thats for sure !lips are a mojor weakness of mine

The hat is ment to be somewhat of a cloth cverd helmet hand made of course but shaping it up is in my plans as well as a lil more detail in general

The waist was buggin me a lil i think ill take your advice and tighten it up looks a lil like shes got a gut in the pic

Thanks for catching me there D ill get to wrk and tweak as soon as i get some more stuff modeled

02 February 2002, 11:14 AM
ok a some waht boring update but heres her back pak duffle bag style with one strap

Dan Dixon
02 February 2002, 01:30 PM
it coming along so nice man keep it up for as much as the back pack i think it nice and clean so no coments here bud

02 February 2002, 02:03 PM
Man Trav I'm loving the look of the back pack, altho it looks to modern and clean for the PA era, I know you'll dirty it up some... what's the yellow do hicky in the bag? nrg cells? :)

02 February 2002, 03:05 PM
trav, i think you have a few parcated polys on the arm of your girl.

02 February 2002, 03:38 PM
yeah ill delete them when i get to the tweaking stage :) but thanks good eye

02 February 2002, 07:10 PM
Backpack looks great

For the character, I would try to get rid of the "blobby" feel of the shirt and her hair. It should look better with sharper edges especially on the collar.

02 February 2002, 11:01 PM
IMnot sure the shirt would hve to have sharp edges so much i think that wuuld depend on the materisl but ill try and make it more defined when i get to tweaking stage thanks for the advice

02 February 2002, 11:57 PM
like the duffel bag, I was wondering what kind of surface properties and lighting are you using? nice render.

02 February 2002, 01:23 AM
OK im tweaking around and i see what you mean ! Thank you very much for poiniting it out.

Also D' for the sugestions they are all getting alot better, but ill still need you guys to keep and eye on me!

After looking at the model a while its is hard to see certain things yourself, and while im going for a more tooney look it still helps. I fixed the break in the eyes too

Thats what this challenge is all about so thank you for making me better

as far as ligthing goes im not great at it yet obvioslyu but i use three lights and difrent stteigneach time some times it looks of others it sucks surfaces are just colored polys to seperate out pieces for fast selection . and the glass i use an image map on the colors seems to work better than the reflection channel to make the glass stand out

02 February 2002, 02:31 AM just a few minor changes! the lower half of her is just started re doing a few things like the belt etc, have a good update tonight

02 February 2002, 05:34 PM
I love the Anime look of it all. It is simply beutifull. The main reason I got into 3D modeling was because I wanted to model anime girls. :D (Other than that just wanted to post so I could get email updates when you update ;) )

02 February 2002, 06:33 PM
Heya Cerreto...

You didn't mention earlier when I asked but... Is that polys or nurbs?

Looking good...:D

02 February 2002, 10:00 PM here you go minus and thanks

02 February 2002, 12:32 AM
Sorry dave with all the stuff going on i must have forgot my apologies, It is polys, ill post a wireframe later if anyone would like! Im using lw . as a new user one of my problems is keeping my detail from getting too smothed when i use lws sub d when i export them as a obj to maya they look far better detailed when smoothed . Maybe i should just get busy and learn maya lol or work a lil harder to be a better modeler hmm ill do both!

I think this gas mask design will work ive tried a few and this seems to match decent now for the detail and a strap to hold it in place

02 February 2002, 01:15 AM
Relly nice design, I love the way you have done the clothes. I don't like too much the anime look of the face, dunno why, maybee the eyes... :confused:

BTW, could you give me a clear explanation of what xdugef is ?

02 February 2002, 01:36 AM
Well i have the same problem with you.I was using max and now skiping to lightwave(about 4 months now).I still have a problem controlling subd's.It's great for modeling but it seems that i'm not used to it.Your model is really nice and you seem to have control of it.By the way i notised that her wings want to escape the shirt:D .And the two sleeves look obviusly mirrored,but then again i shouldn't be talking about that:rolleyes:
Great.She is sweet!

02 February 2002, 02:19 AM
Woo WOOOOOO!!! Check out that butt :D

02 February 2002, 02:35 AM
yeah that's a lovely butt indeed.

to bad you didn't give it the xdufeg treatment trav :( it would've been nicer still . . .

02 February 2002, 02:53 AM
I agree Equinox, but I don't think (I'm not a specialist) it would be easy with this kind of model, I mean I think there's too much polygon for a xdufeg treatment ? :confused:

no ?

02 February 2002, 03:42 AM
Why don't u make the gassmask a bit see-through so we can still see her face.... else u would have modelled it for nothing :/

it's beatifull!!!

02 February 2002, 04:06 AM
Well if you really just wanted to have the gasmask and show her face, then just let it hang around her neck. I think it will give her a nice look. I cant find much to crit. Good work Cerreto.

And find that xdugef document!:D :D :D :D

Dont want that to sound harsh I ve just been searcing my brains out and cant find it anywhere:D

02 February 2002, 10:47 AM
working on it !

heres just a minor change i keep posting alot so people can see how often i chnge my mind on style etc im trying to make her look a lil less sexy and more pa ish geting ready to detail the mask and give her some legs

02 February 2002, 10:53 AM
Well I just wanted to let you know that I think this is one of the most developed and original characters on here. Cant wait to see the legs. There is only one thing that bothers me and thats the shirt. While it is very well modeled it just doesnt seem to fit the PA look. Maybe if it was thicker and had some padding or torn in places. But I understand your trying to make it look more PAish.

02 February 2002, 12:13 AM
Wow is very very C00l :eek:

Ben Woodward
02 February 2002, 01:21 AM
I like this ALOT, I think the texturing in the last post has made all the difference. Full of character and style.

02 February 2002, 07:29 AM
I agree, very original and lookin' great! I think she looked better with the shirt off though! :D

02 February 2002, 01:51 AM

well finaly got off my but and did a lil work about 40 minutes to do these legs errr long time cause i suck at legs stillI

welcome any crits ill be loading these boots up with some gear and pads etc

02 February 2002, 02:07 AM
Very beautifull!

nothing to say...Really good stuff!

02 February 2002, 02:56 AM
great job!
this model is improving a lot
the lips looks much better
and the outfit is awesome.

There is a little bit of pinching in the nose.
if you smoothen the transition between the bridge of the
nose to the face she will looks softer and more natural
also near where the eyes are if you flatten the nose a little
more and make a less defined line I think this would make her look better

another thing is where the left cheek meets the nose there is also a really strong line there that should either be smoothed out or continued so it hits the start of the nose

02 February 2002, 03:03 AM
EXCELLENT!!!! Thank you i rush alot and then try to touch up at the end but this will save me much time and is great feedback i know what you are saying and totaly agree great touch up


02 February 2002, 03:28 AM
Absolute great stuff man. :D

With this dark closes she looks a little bit like a imperial soldier from Star Wars. :p

I like it alot.


02 February 2002, 10:43 PM
. . . but the whole character is very sexy and smooth looking ! I really love the clothes !!!

Why there are no new pix ? Where are you stuck at the moment ?!

If "Facial Deluxe" dont win with his elephant than you should ;)

Besides: It would be great to see these two characters together in a short-movie or just some images !?

Go on with that female . . .

02 February 2002, 11:17 PM
You know I am normally not into chick that could kick my ass,
But for here I think I would bend the rule a little.
Great model. It has a cool style and well thought out details.
Keep up the good work.

02 February 2002, 04:42 AM
finished the hands after bateling with a old design and finding lupins great hand tutorial !!! here a crappy gi render gone bad the eyes are a lil messed up and thers flaws i know ! but its a update

02 February 2002, 04:49 AM
Nice improvement on the nose

I can't wait to see her fully textured and lit

02 February 2002, 04:54 AM
oh yeah forgot to mention nose improvments mad from psumo s advice and psumo i wnat you to light her hint hint LOL ! thanks

02 February 2002, 06:44 AM
that's one kewl lookin' dudette/babe

cute butt too :D

great work. can't say more, need the strength to finish my own proj.

02 February 2002, 07:33 AM
very nice work, but what is the url of this hand tutorial that you speak of?

Da Saint
02 February 2002, 04:09 PM

it's right here:

Facial Deluxe
02 February 2002, 04:24 PM
Good job ! Didn't you forget to put some smoothing on the shirt ?

yon dabuda
02 February 2002, 06:06 PM
oooh, wow, havent been around in a while. its coming along beautifully.
nice job on the body and hands. excellent :)
i would just move her navel up a little.
keep it up. :)
*i should do some work on my model* heh

02 February 2002, 04:39 AM
Looking really good!! She's one of my favoUrites!

You might want to make the dip between the collar bones a little wider.

I think the legs are looking really good (and strong)considering you only spent 40 mins on them. The lower part just needs a couple of minor adjustments. The outer area where the shin meets the calf seems to have too much of a curve.

Keep up the good work!

02 February 2002, 01:59 AM
Really nice ! I prefer the face much better now (it just looks a very tiny bit too flat but I guess it will change) :-) .
Maybee you should smooth a bit the edges of the hand's palm.

Keep up the good work !

02 February 2002, 02:43 AM
Hey. Finally a female character!! Really cute with those pouty lips. She looks in a style of her own with that head dress. ooh yah, i love the stocking thing with straps. :D

I did a female character too, hahaa but i'm far from done. do check it out and rate it. And dont be polite on the comments, just shoot!

dom's female WIP character (

02 February 2002, 09:06 PM
I'm lovin the extra's man, but how's about an update allready :D:D

02 February 2002, 10:19 PM
I said this on another forum somewhere...

If you're the type of people I have to compete with for a job, then I'm in serious trouble. :(

Nice work Cerreto... Keep it coming!

02 February 2002, 06:18 AM
thanks all ive replied so many times that i figured i would take a few days off from modeling , ive recived alot of great feed back and thank you for the compliments ill try and do some work tonight and post a update im working on some new tools for lw so its hard to say ! but she will be getting sand skis !:) and a big gun so keep an eye out


02 February 2002, 03:38 PM
ok i promised an update so here is the basic begginig of my girls gun im still heavily working on it so now there is no padding on the handles or detail like a trigger etc , im working on chain bullets and some other stuff like a strap but here it is fo now !

02 February 2002, 03:54 PM
Ey man, i really love that gun !!! GREAT Design ! Damn cool !
Waiting for a new update...

02 February 2002, 04:04 PM
very nice gun

I love it
that would fit soo nicely on my girl
can I borrow???

02 February 2002, 04:15 PM
Damn, that's looking good! Some stiff competition here ;)

With some better lighting to bring the forms out it's gonna be a killer character! My only critique is that I think her clothes look kind of paper thin. Maybe give the rims some more thickness and soften the creases a bit?


Howard Day
02 February 2002, 04:54 PM
Great work, Cerreto! One thing I noticed is that the hole in the gun where the index finger and trigger go looks too small to hold both. Maybe I'm just thinking as a male with big hands,'d have a hard time *not* pulling the trigger!
Keep it up!

02 February 2002, 05:12 PM
good eye ! i'll fix that !

Wiro i was thinking the same thing ill try and workit out a lil better never did cloth wrinkles so its been a learning experiance

Psumo sure !! and thanks lol ;)

thanks bassit here you go not much lol still so much left to do on the gun and everything else :(

02 February 2002, 08:02 PM
clap clap clap! cool design and modellation of the weapon! very profesional design!
I like very much the material-colors.
A red ray to aim?

02 February 2002, 03:47 AM
wow trav that's one slick looking weapon, I really love the last render, altho the material is temp it really looks nice.. this gun looks very powerful bud, maybe give it the ability to be a pulse plasma rifle ;) ya know with dials and switches and what not... keep it coming

02 February 2002, 09:49 AM
Nice chain-bullets but i wanna see this gun in her hands pointing on something (maybe the cam/viewer) ! With one eye closed ! If you donīt like this idea just give us an update !!

02 February 2002, 06:56 PM
damn man, that gun is looking tight. very, very cool. :)

02 February 2002, 05:15 AM
yeah...i love it...better i love her hehehe, i want to...better if i dont say :]

03 March 2002, 11:31 AM
where have you been!!!!
I want an update please

03 March 2002, 12:27 PM
lol thanks ive been sick all week ! no fun hard to work cant breath err but im hoping to be better before the weekend is up ! maybe at least finish rigging her and pose her hard to say
later psumo your entry is looking sharp man !!!

03 March 2002, 12:40 PM
looks like my host is down at the moment so ill use this one

03 March 2002, 01:11 PM
ok i think im out of my death bed now pnumonia crap errrrrr and ill try to at least pose her looking forward to next challenge as ive lost to much time on this one (im a baby when im sick waaaa)

03 March 2002, 11:41 PM
i have the same crap... damn pneumonia... i cant even breathe right.....

anyway.... nice model.....hope it gets finished... it just needs a little here's and there's but i like it (her)... congrats.....

see ya..


03 March 2002, 11:53 PM
She's quite fashionable. ;)

03 March 2002, 11:50 AM
ALEX DUQUE! U sonofabiooooootch! whats up man! it's Dave, from school! Whatcha been doing? U working yet? Drop me an email!

Adam Klein
03 March 2002, 02:00 PM
lookin' great, too much good to list, but I really love the little backpack, sweet job overall


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