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03 March 2004, 10:01 AM
cláudio jordão do carmo viegas has entered the Machineflesh 3D Challenge.

03 March 2004, 10:29 AM
I've got to start thinking on something... all my ideas seems to vanishing the moment I hit a real surface with my imaginary pen!

03 March 2004, 10:38 AM
Cool to see you're entering, Cláudio - the whole pack is back!

Oh, and try a real pen on an imaginary surface, might work uh... differently.

03 March 2004, 12:25 PM
Hum! My friend JamesMK... I think you might have open some kind of curtain...

What if (in the future) we could "copy" and "paste" elements from the imaginary world to the real world, and vice-versa?
What if we could go back and change our reality (in the exact moment that we realise we've made the wrong decision) with some kind of "undo"?
What if we could add a script to our genetic-code enhancing our abilitys to... go on... free your mind!

I think I have a sinopse... well, it's a start!

03 March 2004, 12:38 PM
Originally posted by claudio_jordao
What if we could go back and change our reality (in the exact moment that we realise we've made the wrong decision) with some kind of "undo"?
M'yeap... I would need to have reserved system resources for undo history to the amount of... lets see now... about 21 years :D

I wonder how many terabytes of undo storage that would require? :hmm: And I do hope it would be a non-linear undo.

03 March 2004, 01:10 PM
Ahahah! Imagine that your all history is recorded in one very big nothing, like the sky... and the only thing you have to do to "undo"/copy and or paste, events/feelings/desires/etc... is to go to that sky and access your historial. And you do this by executing your genetic-script wich you access by simple will to do so!

03 March 2004, 10:44 PM
Hehe, good to see you're in too. Well, sounds like sum win-fiction of the dark side to me, and if u build in a "ctrl+Z" option, i wouldn't want to be in that world, haha, if you wake up and know there's a world ruled by "ctrl+alt+del".... ahrgh, nightmare... lol best luck:beer:

03 March 2004, 12:04 AM
Well, here it is... the first look of my concept.
In the future, we'll be able to "fuse" the real and the spiritual world, by accessing and controling our own xhakras.

03 March 2004, 12:08 AM (

opss... there it is... yes, I'm in the need of some ctrl-alt-del

03 March 2004, 06:31 AM
... lol... like this one? (

03 March 2004, 11:03 AM
Help, I'm going crazy here!... Is it really necessary that the alterations of our caracters must be metallic?
Can't it be extensions of their own organic form?
Can it be hooked to another liveform?
I was thinking in something with a look of Cronenberg's "existenZ"... do you think I can go that way? Help guys!

03 March 2004, 11:13 AM
the alterations should be "machinary" - but not necessarily metallic. As stated in the brief, the machine components could for instance be made out of wood.

Having said that, I'm not sure about your specific idea... Would the other organic thing have the features of a machine? If so, I guess it's OK. The term machine is pretty broad as it is.

03 March 2004, 12:33 PM
Well, I don't want to believe that we are going to "evolve" to somekind of "freaky monsters", like Ciborgs, Terminators or Transformers of any kind, that will only cause us fear or other weird sensations.
I believe that we are going to build machines that can help us, one day, to be more... human!
And problably we'll find a way to enhance our capabilities with their's, but not in a way that could destroy (with some metallic or wood things) what's most valius to us... our body.
I think that those transformations will occur in the inside, in a biological way, enhancing our habilities to speak different languages, to learn more and more about everything, to travel without moving (thanks JK) and to boldly go (thanks JIM) where no man as gone before... to our most depp conciusness of being human... and being God.
And that is why I getting mad :)

03 March 2004, 12:32 PM
Cool ideas, but they might be really hard to show in just one image/design :)

Machines don't have to be from metal, maybe another material that biological creatures know, such as the chitine from insect armours/butterfly wings would fit more with your idea of a machine that is not too technical and can integrate with the body :)

03 March 2004, 12:35 PM
Thus the philosophical question of "what exactly is a machine?" appeared on stage :D

03 March 2004, 02:35 PM
Cláudio, what i really like about your idea is the pragmatic notion that: hey, we might be improved by machines, but that doesn't mean that we want metallic skin or wires knocked in at every orifice (making it difficult to settle down and watch TV on the fav couch).

But do agree with jawine that it'll be hard to get the message across via a character still....but pls keep at would love to see you pull it off ;)

03 March 2004, 12:26 PM
Hello all. In searching for information, I found something that I think we all should read. Hope you like it.

03 March 2004, 05:17 PM
Well, I don't know if you'll find it as usefull as I did, but anyway, here it is

03 March 2004, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by claudio_jordao
Homo Cyberneticus! How cool is that (or rather, how cool would that be).

There are many interesting ideas to think about in this, and i can appreciate how it would make for useful inspiration for your particular entry.

A little outside of the scope of machine flesh, but if you like this kind of SF, i would recommend Greg Egan's book "Permutation City" is clearly about homo machinus (or Ian Pearson got the idea from the book perhaps??).

03 March 2004, 02:41 PM (

Trying to explore my concept

03 March 2004, 04:32 PM (

...and a update

03 March 2004, 11:15 AM
Another marvelous idea ~
Seems interesting and cool !

03 March 2004, 11:28 AM
Yeah, maybe... I'm still kind of stucked. I'm not even sure if I'm on the right track of the challenge!

04 April 2004, 10:28 PM (

Well, I've started modeling... I'm still not sure where this is going to take me, but here I go.

04 April 2004, 01:37 PM (

...and the machine tryed to recreat men...

04 April 2004, 05:44 PM (

report-242004: the machine begins to simplify the new born.

04 April 2004, 12:15 PM (

Testing the new born
_ Physical capabilities - unconclusive

04 April 2004, 03:02 PM (

Testing the new born
_ Free Form Deformation - unconclusive

04 April 2004, 03:07 PM
This is amazingly weird stuff you're rendering... hard to come up with any comments because it's so abstract, yet not... I just have to say it's really cool, and it will be most interesting to see how everything is supposed to come together later on....

:thumbsup: Fascinating...

04 April 2004, 03:25 PM
I definitely like this!

I really like where you are coming from-

why does the idea of machines and flesh have to conjour up something vulgar or destructive?

It could be quite beautiful!


I believe the originators of the challenge have dropped a lot of hinted at introductory information for this challenge-

04 April 2004, 05:23 PM (

Testing the new born
_ Spiritual capabilities - unconclusive

04 April 2004, 05:40 PM
claudio_jordao , I m.... I am trying to get it.. don't know but seems mysterious... can't crit... anyway... abstract work... very powerfull...

04 April 2004, 05:56 PM
Thank you for visiting my thread Continuumx.

"I believe the originators of the challenge have dropped a lot of hinted at introductory information for this challenge"

Of course they needed to give some guidelines about what was this challenge about... but yes, I share the same opinion you have! That is why it's been so difficult for me to come out with a way to illustrate my idea... I'm still not there yet, but I'm trying... thanks!

Thanks JamesMK, your intention to comment is very welcome :thumbsup: I would also like to see how everything is supposed to come together later on... let's just say that I'm being taken... Anyway, thank you very much for the support, it means a lot comming from you!

04 April 2004, 07:31 PM
Great concept Claudio , ehehe I remember you in the alienware challenge . This is good stuff u have and looks very original also

04 April 2004, 11:19 AM
Ahahah, thanks BartokDesign, I also remember you, and that is why I dont know if you speaking the truth :D

04 April 2004, 11:26 AM (

Habitat Concept Development:
HCD level I - chakras colors applied

04 April 2004, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by claudio_jordao
Ahahah, thanks BartokDesign, I also remember you, and that is why I dont know if you speaking the truth :D

What the %#$%#$%# . Just cause I was complaining about ppl
copyng Giger ?
Well I was pretty sincere there and so I am now
I didnt understand why u said that


Heh about the Habitat Im curious :thumbsup:

04 April 2004, 12:39 PM
Oh companheiro, claro q não levei a mal!
Agora era eu q estava a brincar... manda ai essas criticas q são bem vindas.

I'm sorry if I was wrong about you, man... let's have some peace in both sides :beer:

And about the Habitat... me too!!!

04 April 2004, 01:52 PM (

Habitat Concept Development:
HCD level II - chakras activating portal

04 April 2004, 05:57 PM
Really nice what you are creating here!!!
I'll wait for more.:thumbsup: :)

04 April 2004, 05:27 PM (

Ctrl-Chakras program initiated

Welcome: You are now entering in your spiritual world

04 April 2004, 07:22 PM (

Yeah!!! I think I'm almost giving up. This is not working as I wanted.

05 May 2004, 07:41 PM
I think I'm back... don't ask!

05 May 2004, 08:57 AM
Uai! Onde é q tá a imagem?
Uai! Where is the image?

05 May 2004, 09:01 AM (

Here it is again!
I remembered the times that I played with "LEGO", so I think I'm gonna play with that concept.

05 May 2004, 12:34 PM (

Bio-lego-logy... that's the final step in Human-Evolution. A stage where are no physical limitations, and where we can assume any form we like.

05 May 2004, 05:39 PM (

Now i'm having fun

05 May 2004, 01:41 PM (


05 May 2004, 03:43 PM (

... back to business!

05 May 2004, 11:59 PM
I really like this does credit to your concept. Good one :thumbsup:

05 May 2004, 12:17 AM
Cool lighting! I like the effect.

05 May 2004, 09:07 AM
thanks guys... I dont have much time, but I'm trying not to give up.

05 May 2004, 06:10 PM (

There's a big one!
I guess I should submit this as a texturing milestone, but I'm still refining the modeling... the arms are not finished yet, and I will refine other parts.
Anyway... what do you think so far?

06 June 2004, 04:51 PM

I'll wait to see what comes out of this.

06 June 2004, 11:32 AM
Your concept is very original and very inspiring !!
You have a fan :) (word of the day:... i'm a fan )

06 June 2004, 09:25 AM (

Here's the first biolegologised human... I'm gonna try to do some other's... time is running out!

06 June 2004, 10:34 PM (

É pro menino e prá menina!
Now you can be the Hero you always wanted.
Change your custome, change your powers.

06 June 2004, 08:03 PM (

These are two of the possibilities of heroes-combinations in the biolegological world.

06 June 2004, 09:09 PM (

Testing a possible enviroment

06 June 2004, 12:45 AM
I like yo style! :applause:

06 June 2004, 08:34 AM
Thanks Moritz, I'm still not sure of the enviroment, but I like the mood.

06 June 2004, 04:29 PM (

Another combined-hero.

06 June 2004, 12:53 PM (


06 June 2004, 04:08 PM (

What do you think?

06 June 2004, 06:07 PM (

Well, I guess I'm almost there... do you?

06 June 2004, 08:35 AM
Hello... is anyone there? Is it so bad? Is it too good? :)

06 June 2004, 01:48 PM (

Adam and Eve in the Biolegological-Eden.

06 June 2004, 01:49 PM
This looks really fresh, but my only complaint is where is the flesh aspect?


06 June 2004, 02:38 PM
Yeah... I think "fresh" is the word, thanks :)
About the flesh issue... this is the flesh of the new-born, the flesh they chosse to be transformed to... it's the ultimate revolution in bio-technology.

Discover the new features of:
change your powers from the inside

06 June 2004, 06:42 PM (

I love this style...

06 June 2004, 10:44 PM (


06 June 2004, 10:50 PM
:beer: STRANGE STUFF HERE! but cool! interesting style!

06 June 2004, 02:15 AM
Obviously you went the different, quite freestyle
route on this. I like it very much and you have my respect.
Hell, who can say what flesh is? :D
Very refreshing if you ask me...keep it up, I would like to
see it finished....
boa sorte


06 June 2004, 09:06 AM
Hey OZ, thank you... I guess!
I was needing that. :)

EmpY... at last, someone that understands me... I think!
Who can say what flesh is?
That is the main question.

Good luck for both of you

06 June 2004, 09:11 AM (

color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color? color? no color?

06 June 2004, 10:37 AM (

And now... the moment you ask:
What a f***

06 June 2004, 01:05 PM (

Here it is... not yet finished... but this is the idea.

06 June 2004, 01:00 PM (

I have no comments... no... no comments at all... yeah... that's right!... what about you?... do you have any comments about this?... well, it's not finished, I've created this background, and I think it works... but I would like you to comment... I mean, if you want to... ok, I'm gonna seat back here and wait...

06 June 2004, 01:19 PM
Well, I guess I'm missing some distraction, or better said
disruption point in your image. I kinda expect something
will pop up in the image wich will mess things just a little bit???

:hmm: ?

06 June 2004, 01:29 PM
I'm sorry EmpY, I dont think I urderstand what you said. What do you mean by "disruption point in your image"?

06 June 2004, 02:04 PM
It's hard to be concrete and explain :hmm:
I will try to ilustrate, but do not listen to me,
but folow your own instinct... :

Lets say they (your two characters) look like they
are made of some kind of flesh. Also, they seem to
be standing on the shore of the ocean (water, fluid...).
Now, the man's arm looks interesting, so I would give him
the big surfboard (in diferent shader) to hold with that hand.

Another version that comes to my mind is their pose wich
is almost perfect for both of them to be standing on one big surfboard, surfing the wave...
Where "surfboard" would represent machine part of the homework... :hmm: ???


06 June 2004, 05:14 PM
Ahhhh!!! Now I get it :) thank you.

Well, I guess it's time to explain the all idea:

This two characters are like fashion models posing to a camera... and what they are selling is a energetic drink called "Biolegology".

This Drink will reconfigure, like pieces of "LEGO", your own genetic code (DNA) enhancing your abilities to transform yourself in... whatever you want... a kind of super hero with all the powers you want.

This energetic drink is now on it's 7 version - "Biolegology 7.0" - and it's new feature is the re-activation of your chakras... in other words, it sets your spirit free from your mind.

So, in this Biolegological world, you, are all that you need... you are a physical and spiritual machine.

Yes, I guess you could say:
That's just like a drug... and a hard one!

Well... no... you can stop drinking "Biolegology" when you want, the effect of one pack last 3 days, but please, do not drink more than 5 per day... you could simply explode your mind.

Ok ok... I confess... I had 6 of these

06 June 2004, 05:19 PM (

It's almost done.

06 June 2004, 02:00 AM (

Thank you to all of you, for your support, and all those things that... blá blá blá, and blá blá blá... :)
You know!
You are the best.
I'm done for now.
Here is my final image... allow me to say that, just for the fun I had doing this... I think I've done a good job.
Good luck for all of you.
See you next time.
Have a nice...

06 June 2004, 02:49 PM
I have to say that your final is truly one of a kind! An incredibly weird design, that still makes a lot of sense somehow.... The poses and the colors are impressive, to say the least. Overall, a distinct "graphic design" feeling to it!

Great job, and kudos for sticking with this weird and original concept :thumbsup:

06 June 2004, 03:27 PM
Hey James, thanks!
It was very hard to stick with the original concept, and there was a time that I stoped working... I was almost giving up. But I've made it.
I know that this image might not find it's place in this challenge idea... but I had fun doing it, and I've learned a few more things. That's all that counts... for now :)

And talking about weird stuff... your work is amazing my friend ;)
I like your sense of humor :)

Good luck!

Cláudio Jordão

06 June 2004, 02:11 AM
looks amazing!.... this concept is great man!... the rendering and materials look so espectacular.... this is very sweet too look at... i can buy anything ilustrated with that image so please give me one Biolegology 7.0!!!:drool: impressive work:buttrock:

06 June 2004, 05:32 PM
Thank you very much for your comment rattlesnake.
Good luck for your incredible work.

06 June 2004, 11:05 AM
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Incredible concept, five stars!

06 June 2004, 06:21 PM
Ahahah... thanks's friend. I love it!

07 July 2004, 09:02 PM
Hello Continuumx.

Thank you very much for your message.

I'm glad you liked the final result of my idea, it seems like you understood it completely, thank you.

I wanted so much to see where your idea was going, it was really one of my favorites... I hope you can have some more time, next time!

Thank you very much again

Best of luck!

Cláudio Jordão

07 July 2004, 05:58 AM
:buttrock: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

i love this one man,for some realon its totally amazing....

07 July 2004, 04:48 PM
U got my vote man .

muito bom trabalho

07 July 2004, 08:31 PM
Hello jdsb
"for some reason its totally amazing...." ahahah... cool... thank's!

Olá BartokDesign, thank you very much for your vote man... I really dont think that my work is going to win something, because I think that this is not the kind of work that is expected... but I enjoyed very much doing it!


08 August 2004, 08:55 AM
Hey POX, I'm sorry for the time I took to respond to your message, I'm very busy this moment... anyway, thank you for your vote.

I'll try to find where is the image you liked and do a larger version of that.

It might take a few more days, but I will not forget!

Once more, thank you for your interest.

Cláudio Jordão

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