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03-17-2004, 01:01 AM
Marcin J Nikiforuk has entered the Machineflesh 2D Challenge.

03-17-2004, 01:02 AM
Yes, Yes this one is screaming my name!
Good luck to everyone! :buttrock:

03-17-2004, 04:32 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079497951_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079497951_large.jpg)

just doodling. I think this looks too much like "I'll be back" noo? I think I might actually go for some kind of a monster. I like monsters. Esspecially when they have bio mechanics incorporated in them. MMMMmmmm.

03-17-2004, 08:07 AM
so let em come! hahah, its heavy metal time, bring it on bring it on!!!:buttrock: :beer: :wip:

03-20-2004, 04:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079757112_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079757112_large.jpg)

HI I just thaught I'd share a similar piece I did in 98. Anyways I'll be doing something a little bit different.

03-20-2004, 09:14 AM
I love this second consept, I wouls go with this idea..... you might want to try and add in some more of a nomad look to him. maybe a pack and gear?

keep it up


03-20-2004, 09:29 AM
Looks great. What's that on his back?

03-20-2004, 09:59 AM
I agree the second one is the best the first one looks very borg. Can i ask a question how does he walk? just curious. He looks great.


03-20-2004, 06:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079807359_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079807359_large.jpg)

...another idea. This is a creature of somekind used for battle. strenghtened with electrinics robotic implants.

03-20-2004, 06:40 PM
ah now we're talking, getting real good. you should have that dude ride the creature .... side saddle I guess

03-20-2004, 10:25 PM
bRoKEn_CycLE: Thanx. As I mentioned this is something I did sometime ago and I'm not going to include it in the challenge. I want to make something from scratch. Thanx for your opinion though.

Modron: ??? a gaffi stick or something? on the stick he's got a dead spyderlike creature, I guess a good luck charm.

element5: thanx bud. Put your index finger in front if you on a table, support it with thur thumb and with your fingers walk forward. (I hope I'm not confusing you)

kjc: ...I guess you have a point there. I'm not sure if I'll have someone ride the creature at this point. I'll see how I feel later on in the chalenge.


OK here is a little of the creature shaded in with a pencil (my favourite medium for concept drawing). Its been years since I did one of those. should be fun!



03-21-2004, 04:43 AM
:eek: Wow!!!

good luck!!! :applause:

03-21-2004, 04:46 AM
:eek: wow crazybread you rock dude
more more more :buttrock:
cant wait to see you finish this amazing character :thumbsup:

03-21-2004, 04:54 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079844885_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079844885_large.jpg)

I decited to post progress of my concept and will do so as I fill in the pencil details. It will give a chance to some people who might be interested to see the progression and the route the design is taking (not to mentione give me motivation to keep going). Afcourse it will be a valuable guideline for me to follow the photoshop remake in high rez for the final piece. I'm sure some stuff will change when I do the final version that is why I myself expect to make little mistakes here and there.

Ok about what I already have here. Basically most of the part of the brain like the nervous system of this guy is preety much controlled by a computer. Stuff like fear is eliminated and survival scencess are hightened like smell, reflex etc. also controlled and regulated by medicine injected intervenously. I'm thinking to actually put a gun on the back end of the sattle mounted on a hydraulic stabilizer or something like that.

03-21-2004, 06:18 AM
mate, thats crazy! how long did it take you to pencil in the head region?

03-21-2004, 06:56 AM
if i were you i would definitely focus on this concept. its really really good.!

03-21-2004, 08:23 AM
Your work looks great, I definately like the design and attention to detail

03-21-2004, 12:24 PM
very nice pencil job! :)

03-21-2004, 01:13 PM
sick pencil work, man! I loved your Alienware Challenge entry - it certainly had the best texture work, and I think the only reason it didn't win was because of the relatively empty space in the sky above the valley.

I think i must be sick to even be in any kind of 2D competition with you...One day you must show a time lapse of how you do your pencil work.

Good Luck! And god help your competitors...

03-21-2004, 01:14 PM
this is soo very cool.
i thought some dogs were already scary enough.
good luck hey.

Tommy Lee
03-21-2004, 01:58 PM
Awesome Design and Awesome penciling....:thumbsup:

Good Luck to you


Tommy Lee

03-22-2004, 12:08 AM
eupee: it took me about 2-3 hours to get the head preety much where you saw it.

ambient-whisper: Thanx, I'm trying. Right now it will depend on my rooms humidity and what kind of details will come out from under my pencil.

spaz8, Drumwhore, cullen, Tommy Lee: Thank you guys.

Quizboy: thanx! about the alienware: Thats history... some probably still believe I ripped Royos concept., I don't wanna go there, I'm done with that! thanx mate!

03-22-2004, 12:16 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079914603_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1079914603_large.jpg)

...more of the drawing progressinon.

I'm actually wondering whats gonna happen to the gun stabilizer =( I don't want to put it in the back by fixing it to the sattle because that would mean that you can't really attack with this monsterwile walking forward. I'm gonna have to design some sort of mechanism that swings the stabilizer arround so the gun works for both the front and the backwhen needed.

03-22-2004, 01:49 AM
Awesome detail you have goin on there,looks really impresive.
Best of luck.


03-22-2004, 01:57 AM
Very nice pencil work here. Love your style and interested to see where this is going to go. I saw your website and like how you use the pencils as a part of your textures. Keep up the good work!

03-22-2004, 05:19 AM
I'm stunned with the details.......Hats off my man.:bowdown:

03-23-2004, 12:27 AM
jud, Haven, cabertevon: Thank you guys for your kind remarks.

...I'm having sooo much fun with this design (the contest as a whole afcourse). I hope everyone is enjoying themselves. I worried that I might not be able to finish because of work and stuff but we'll see. Right now I'm just concentrating on the design and the conceptual sketch. I want to draw as much as I can that fits into the design so that redoing it in photoshop (like I mentioned before) will be so much easier. The stuff I'v been posting so far is the exact size that I drew it in, so getting those details in there isn't exactly an easy task.


03-23-2004, 12:33 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080002013_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080002013_large.jpg)

... more details. I'm totally rethinking the brace arround the rider. I'm just not sure that it will be practicall not to mention too heavy. I'm still figureing it out. any suggestions?

03-23-2004, 08:20 AM
Amazed!! Ultimate stuff!! I just can't get my eyes off.
Details are total!!



03-23-2004, 09:25 AM
I will be an unlaid ghost in this entry!
Amazing stuff!

03-23-2004, 11:44 AM
WOW!:eek: I can't wait to see the finished picture.:thumbsup:

03-23-2004, 12:11 PM
amazing :drool:
this is commin along very nice :wip:

03-23-2004, 12:32 PM
whoa man! unbelievable how this is coming...i don't even know why i go on.

just one request - could you rotate that about 10 degrees to the right? :surprised (...jus' kidding:D )

03-23-2004, 06:46 PM
Holly crap!!! That is amazing! What could I say? There's nothing wrong, you've just got it. The feeling of strenght and power is really well rendered, the mix of flesh and metal is great.
I cant wait to see how you'll work the color!

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Mad Inventor
03-24-2004, 07:29 AM
Hi ... i really like the beast so far. The only thing that doesn't fit (for me) is the saddle. It looks to ordinary. Maybe if you would incorporate it in to the beast. Make some kind of stabilization mechanizem (or something) so it wouldn't move so much when the monster rumbles around. But this is only my opinion so you're welcome to ignore it :)

03-24-2004, 11:48 AM
Yes, i think Mad Inventor's idea of fusing some kind of hydraulic saddle into the beast is a good one, since taxi service is obviously this creature's primary function.

03-24-2004, 11:57 AM
I just had an idea in response to your concern about the gun stabilizer and also thinking about the saddle. Maybe you could have a saddle positioned behind the gun stabilizer right at the back of the neck, and quite a few more saddles - and more guns - going toward the back of the beast. These saddles would be much smaller, but it would all of a sudden give this beast a massive sense of scale and grander sense of purpose than just the one rider and shooter. Now all of a sudden he becomes a walking multiple gun/multiple shooter artillery unit! Which is fitting of his powerful musculature...

03-24-2004, 12:03 PM
Cool cool, like it!

Maybe you would tel us a little bit of a story behind these creatures

PS: are those manual sketches or digital?:bounce:

03-24-2004, 03:34 PM
EmpY, newone, arden_rey, cgg, quizboy, Frood: Thank you so much for your support guys, I'm flattered, seriously :)

Mad Inventor, Quizboy: First off Thank you for your opinion and suggestions guys! I'm not going to ignore it at all. Ok I'll explain to you why I wnated to put an old tyle saddle first. The reason is personal for the most part, I believe in mixing new and old technology together with a touch of old customs, and this happened to be unusual enough for me to fit. Your suggestions are great. I thaught about incorporating the saddle inside the monster at the very beginning of the sketch but came to the conclusion that it wouldn't probably be comfortable for it. When you both braught up your points about it, I'm thinking to reconsider, and actually take your points seriously. I love the idea about the stabilizer on the actual seat and imbede in the flesh, and not only the gun and that thatwould make a lot of sense as shooting in the galloping position might have been hard with an old fashioned saddle. Ok This is what I'm going to do: I'm gonna finish the concept how I intended it to be (with the old fashioned saddle), then I'm gonna draw it as part of it being imbeded in the flesh towards the back hip (kind of like the cammel riders at back) and we'll se what works beter side by side. Thank you guys for your opinions and suggestions.


03-24-2004, 04:21 PM
rock on, c-bread! :beer:

03-24-2004, 04:21 PM
rock on, c-bread! :beer:

03-24-2004, 04:30 PM
yeah, nice pencils. have you thought of a color scheme
yet ?

03-24-2004, 06:32 PM
whats the real size of the paper ?


03-24-2004, 10:06 PM
Quizboy: :buttrock:

marcnail: thanx, About the color scheme. I 'll let you know what I was thinking of as I do the final. I thinking dark dull browns, a bit yelowish green, some blood, some LEDs, a garage style light illuminating some part of it, some fogor steem.

fbmar: Thepaper size I'm using is regular 8 1/2 by 11 standard laser or photocopy paper.

03-24-2004, 10:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080166037_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080166037_large.jpg)

... continuing the pencil rendering

03-24-2004, 10:51 PM
that is some sick drawing dude! can wait to see more! Rock on!

03-24-2004, 11:03 PM
hey i forgot to poste here ! but i like your concept and your drawing style since the start ! really nice :thumbsup:

03-24-2004, 11:03 PM
Strong creature !

Amazing details you got here, the black and white version for the final image should be suffiscient :)

Keep it up please :buttrock:

03-24-2004, 11:13 PM
NO ONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO WHAT U R DOING!!!! THAT IS INCREDIBLE! Keep it up, that's fantastic. Almost better than that public school pizza on Fridays...YUM!!!:applause: :thumbsup: I want 2 C the guy who is gonna ride this thing.

03-24-2004, 11:34 PM
You got a really great picture coming along here, I am just curious as to what paper and pencil/pencil types you use (2B?), and what kind of eraser (electric or putty?) do you use a toritillion. Sorry all the questions, I just love knowing other peoples techniques when it comes to detailed pencils :p Looking forward to seeing the end rendering.

03-24-2004, 11:42 PM
The smiley says it all.

Been sneakin around on your homepage as well, and again.. :eek:

And yeah, waiting for the reply on AlexKaisers post :thumbsup:

03-25-2004, 12:37 AM

I love the integration of metal and flesh, and the way they sits among one another. And the detail, my god the detail!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

03-25-2004, 02:29 AM
creativer: thanx, more is comming.

viag, cipher, abie1, AirbORn: thank you guys.

abie1: I'm still debating weather I should put someone in the seat. ??????? ...I huess it will depend on time. I'd photograph myself and put me in there on the seat, but I'm not sure If judges would like that.

AlexKaiser: thanx mate. I use standard hb 0.5 mechanical pencil on regular photocopy paper. erasers: I try not to use them but when I have to like in this piece here I just press the good all soft fat rectangular eraser. What is a tortilion??? should I jnow what it is? ... don't be sorry, you asked and now you know.

03-25-2004, 02:31 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080181875_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080181875_large.jpg)

...finally some kind of weapon (I'll refine it and change in the final)

Tommy Lee
03-25-2004, 05:21 AM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Nothing more to say from me!


Tommy Lee

03-25-2004, 05:59 AM
Wow! Its definitely very cool!

What's the little mechanical part on his shoulder? The tube like thing that sticks out?

I suddenly feel owned.


03-25-2004, 06:27 AM
Awesome gun dude just a question. If the gun is on the end, how does the rider shoot from it? If hes riding facing the front then he can't really shoot looking the opposite way? Maybe unless its a two seater? Or could be automated? maybe the beast uses it? Anyway doesn't really matter your drawing rocks! Great work dude!

03-25-2004, 07:13 AM
Really great pencil work,maybe you could make the seat for two people,a rider and a gunner?
Anyway keep it up it's looking great can't wait to see it in colour.


03-25-2004, 07:28 AM
I was going to ask about the gun too, but creativer beat me to it. Also I noticed how small the gun grips are compared to the saddle. That's one small fisted gunner ... or fat bottomed rider.

Still, excellent pencil work and mind blowing shading going on here. :beer:

03-25-2004, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by Kirt
Also I noticed how small the gun grips are compared to the saddle. That's one small fisted gunner ... or fat bottomed rider.

Very good observation...

03-25-2004, 09:05 AM
I've got something original to say ....

Wow, Stunning work !! :eek:

03-25-2004, 10:10 AM
way to go CB!!!

you rule!!!



03-25-2004, 01:15 PM
Absolutely lovely. You can almoust see from the picture how bad the beast must smell after a few hours of serious action. I see it in a tanned skin colour. Maybe a few moles and a bit of hair. Could be a very much enhanced and modified giant pug! :D

If these things have guns, shouldn't they have armor or they are killed quite easily in battle... Or perhaps they are only for hunting animals.

They might also have a status monitor somewhere where the rider cans ee it. If the beast feels no pain, it doesn't know when it's going to pass out or something.

Maybe they could be remote controlled and used for "dog fights" for fun. Hah!

Really geats my macabre imagination flying. Great work!

03-25-2004, 02:43 PM
Marvelous work!!! I'm really impressed!!! :buttrock:

03-25-2004, 11:12 PM
Another thread that keeps my jaw somewhere on the floor. Great rendrering technique! I cant wait to see the whole sketch done! :thumbsup:

03-26-2004, 12:29 AM
impressive !! :buttrock: good job!!

03-26-2004, 02:55 AM
I really like the hooves...they're very original. They kind of look like they have a shock absorber in them.

03-26-2004, 05:47 AM
Tommy Lee: Thank you Bro. :)

virum: The larger glass container attached is an "epotein alpha" dispensor (eprex) its for building red blood cells, and the other one is a hormone vile. does that make sense??? :shrug:

creativer: The idea that is developing slowly in my head is that this creature would be used as a survailence vehicle guarding certain terrain boarders, usually muddy steep places with rocks hence is not suitable for heavy and intense battles. (I think) The gun as its drawn to date is interchangable, so the rider can pick it up and place it in the slot in the front.

jud: I'm not sure that I'll be making a place for 2 people (its just never crossed my mind. I think the creature would have to be bigger noo?)

kirt: You're right about the grips I'll fix them later on. Thanx :)

Newke, bombproof, Franky_Mo, NinjaASSN, Necroskull, artchick: Thank you guys for your kind remarks!

Pumpuli: Thanx friend! I was thinking greyish brown darker reds, greenish yellows ??? I'll se when I actually do some tests later on. The beast is engeneered not to feel pain and yes there is a status monitor at the front of the saddle that little box with plugs in it. (can't see it well eh)? perhaps I'll fix that later on in the good copy. Like I said before this model in not ment for heavy battle but to withstand elements, terrain, heat, cold etc.

...thank you everyone for your interest, I didn't know that this would create so much interest.

... the only other thing that I can respond with is: :buttrock:

03-26-2004, 05:53 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080280424_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080280424_large.jpg)

another day ,and a little more drawn. I'll be doing a conversion on this drawing when its done. I'll be changing the saddle to an implanted carousel brace for the rider more at the back (perhaps I'll add some armour... I'll see, I'v been getting lots of good suggestions. Thanx guys, keepem comming! :)

03-26-2004, 07:25 AM
:bounce: :applause:
Amazing, Full and particular attention to
the details.
I watch your Wip since the begining,
the 1rst character is also very interesting.
It could be funny to see that your are working in colors.... lol
i think there would be some suicide here :)

When you work like that,
(seems that you are putting details progressively without a background sketch)
It doesn't afraid you that there could be mistakes in the perspective ?
I say that beacause i noticed that your
creature is view sight in low-angle shot
and elements like the gun seem to much added and represent in a wrong angle ?

03-26-2004, 08:01 AM
When I look at it I feel like a kid!!!
MAN, ultimate stuff!!!

03-26-2004, 11:38 AM
jud said:

Really great pencil work,maybe you could make the seat for two people,a rider and a gunner?

then crazybread said:

jud: I'm not sure that I'll be making a place for 2 people (its just never crossed my mind. I think the creature would have to be bigger noo?)

That's just it crazybread. if you make a place for two, or even more people - like 10 is my suggestion, the creature would automatically be bigger. it would be huge by virtue of reference to the smaller-sized saddles, which right now its musculature suggests. Also that would justify the need for so much machinework...

js rolhion
03-26-2004, 11:48 AM
fantastic details and design ! I'll keep an eye on your progress. Bravo ! :thumbsup:

03-26-2004, 01:13 PM
Amazing drawing man, has a nice warcraft feel to it. COOL!! :applause:

03-26-2004, 02:27 PM
Really awesome detail, well done.

03-26-2004, 02:54 PM
this is amazing :bounce:
i wanna make a model and animate it :cry:

03-26-2004, 03:28 PM
This guy doesn't look very cost-effective. We'd just as soon buy a humvee than retrofit a smelly ... what is that thing called? But we sure appreciate nice pencil work!


Your friends in the missing-the-point department

03-26-2004, 06:26 PM
wow that is really amazing. If only my finished work would look like your concept :buttrock:

03-26-2004, 06:38 PM
here we go again!!!
amazing drawing crazy!
I was aboput to sart sending my sketches, but couldn't wait to write you about your crazydrawing.

03-26-2004, 09:21 PM
hi man
don t know what to say about your work ..... like everyone has allready said, you are killing all the place !!!! :bowdown:

hum what about you taking some vacation and let us a little chance ??


argh i m dying !! are you sure you pen is not a bio mechanical enhanced pen with hundred of function ??

well, give me that pen !! gimme i said !! and go back to your bedroom !! hide yourself and come back after june please....

a crits ? hum ...... the only crit i can make it is that it s a crime to draw that way with a pen !!! argh i m dying again !!!!

well Show us more and more and more and more and more ......

03-27-2004, 02:33 AM
Originally posted by crazybread
[B]Tommy Lee: Thank you Bro. :)

virum: The larger glass container attached is an "epotein alpha" dispensor (eprex) its for building red blood cells, and the other one is a hormone vile. does that make sense??? :shrug:

Perfectly. :) Thanks.

03-27-2004, 02:51 AM
The control in your values is absolutely insane. Had to subscribe to this thread.

03-27-2004, 11:18 PM
harnelbe: Thank you for your kind comments. Sometimes I choose to only sketch out the most important elements in a design and worry about them when I get there usually as I progress with rendering the illustration. This way I add details at that perticulair moment. It ususally feels right when I do it. Yes you are right about the gun. Its perspective is messed up as we should be looking a bit from the bottom. I already made notes to corect that when I do the good version. I'll probably do a mock-up of the gun in 3d and set it up for refrence to corectly fix the perspective problem. I hope I answered your your question and adressed your comment. :beer:

Empy: Thank you friend. Thats the reason I draw. The stuf I create makes me feel like a kid too. :)

Quizboy: I know you'd like to see more than one rider on this creature, and because it would give valid reason why all theese muscles. But my intent was to have it carry a single person. Its not that the creature can't handle two or more people, because it can its just that the size I imagined would only allow one saddle or enough equipment for one person comfortably. (please read on I'll explain the validity of all the muscles below). Sorry maybe another time Quizboy


js rolhion, Ravendsg, riki, Russel_Nash, tungaunga, Nov@: thank you guys for your kind comments, its super nice to hear! I want to get drunk with al you you ! (shit! it won't allow me tu put anither smiley) CHEERS!

cgg: Thank man. If you're serious enough e-mail me and we'll talk.

markw7: Was the equipment in lets say starwars any cost effective??? I'm not sure. The only way I can answer your question is that this creaturer can live upto 700 years, all it needs is some chemicals and hormones to live, and has a much much higher capebility than a humvee to sniff out any intruders, it could also climb terrain with the help of its hooks with in its hooves that a humvee couldn't tackle (unless it was the humvee from the simpsons that Mcvain drove :) ) ...good points though!

03-27-2004, 11:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080429839_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1080429839_large.jpg)

Ok. well here is the somewhat finished piece of my Machineflrsh creature concept. I'll redo the saddle part next and build-in the stabilizer for the gun within the creatures hips. anyways I'm uploading a higher rez pic for your enjoyment. Peace!

03-27-2004, 11:33 PM
Exquisite (best word I could think of) rendering. What was the total time it took you? (approx)

03-27-2004, 11:40 PM
Just cleaned some space on the wall above my monitor, hehe.
We all know whats gonna be there. I'll send you a pic in a 2,5 months.;)


03-27-2004, 11:56 PM
crazy shit ! I love it !
now for some color.

03-28-2004, 12:01 AM
i've just realized it was only the sketche....
The final... will be ...terrible !!!

Thanks for your answer about the comment;)

03-28-2004, 12:24 AM
oh m8 i am so "serious enough" but i dont have time that is why i :cry: , hope in the near futur [after i finish study] i will be able to model/animate this amazing creature you created :love: .
got ur e-mail from ur site http://www.nikiforuk.com/


03-28-2004, 12:59 AM
Just awesome dude! wow factor is 100%!

03-28-2004, 03:28 AM
Awesome, man... I don't really have anything too helpful to say :shrug: Something about the ballance of the creature though... looks like its center of gravity is in its shoulder and it might fall forward. I'm just nitpicking 'cause I'm jealous :cry:

Can't wait to see what you post next, man.


Tommy Lee
03-28-2004, 04:51 AM
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Nothing more to say:beer:

03-28-2004, 04:55 AM
that's just amazing. awesome anatomy and shading! good luck with the environment! :D

03-28-2004, 05:54 AM
Hey dude,

Have been watching, had to say this is very impressive. Inspiring stuff indeed. Cant wait to see the end result.

:thumbsup: :bowdown: :beer:

03-28-2004, 09:42 AM
Hey here I'm very impressed with your work and hope this gets the top spot....

but here is one crit.......I grew up on a horse ranch so I've watched alot of movment of large four legged creatures.

I did notice that the right front leg looks abit out of place.
with the rear being so far forward the front right would most likely also be more so to the front as well.

It's a silly thing really I just thought I'd through it out to you.

it by no means takes away from the great skill you have....

I'll look forward to more.


03-28-2004, 09:56 AM
would be curious to know how you hold your concentration while shading like that, this would have driven me insane. :thumbsup:

03-28-2004, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by Quizboy
jud said:

then crazybread said:

That's just it crazybread. if you make a place for two, or even more people - like 10 is my suggestion, the creature would automatically be bigger. it would be huge by virtue of reference to the smaller-sized saddles, which right now its musculature suggests. Also that would justify the need for so much machinework...

Thats the feeling I got from looking at this,that it was a big huge creature,I was thinking cut the saddle in half,have a middle part extruding up from the middle of the saddle(second seat) erase the gun(sorry I know it probably took ages to do that) and then draw in the gun to suit smaller people,but at the same time this is your idea and at the end of the day it is up to you.
Anyway love the work you are doing it really makes me want to go back to my days in school when all I wanted to do was draw,thanks for that!


03-28-2004, 11:52 AM
Coool... I think I'm in love. :D (Not with you silly, with the big smelly beast thing)

The front hoofs are a bit awkwardly positioned. The further back one needs to be more to the front. It's growing out of the things stomach right now. :)

Can't wait for colors.

03-28-2004, 01:00 PM
Looks really good so far! I think it will look even cooler if you compose more of this beast into an army as they set off to war (together with other machineflesh creations of your own, if you like)! Oh yes, adding a wicked war-torn background will definetely do your work some justice!

03-28-2004, 03:48 PM
no worries mr. crazybread, it's your creative vision - i was just doing my best to try and influence you positively because i do wish you the best. coming off of your hand it looks fantastic no matter what! Cheers!

03-28-2004, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by eupee
mate, thats crazy! how long did it take you to pencil in the head region?

Amazing artwork, I am really impressed!:bounce:

03-28-2004, 06:52 PM
U really do wanna get that wacom dont u? :applause:
Grat pic!

Fred Heys
03-28-2004, 08:56 PM
As far as the initial concept design and quality of the art your way up there, i cant wait to see this one finalized...keep up the great work!:thumbsup:

03-28-2004, 09:23 PM
Lookin really good. Your penciling technique is very precise, and the mechanical buildingup looks logical and believable.
(to spin quizboys desire for size: why not makin a gondle, where a few ppl can fight in instead of a stretched seddle. So the gun would not be out of place, imagine makin the gun to a something like the machineguns they use on airplane carrieres to defend from enemy planes... some gun that has a seat in the back of it... 35mm Flak Artillery, in ur case 350mm ...that would make a mechano-altered wardinosaur. thinkin big... ;))
Best follow your own vision, marcin, great work so far now show em colors! :thumbsup: Keep it up!:buttrock: :beer:

03-28-2004, 09:42 PM
Wow, what an interest! :eek:

...anyways thank you guys (perhaps some girls) for all the nice comments and
criticisms alike. I'm plesently surprised with the interest my thread has had.

As far as the gun. OK, I'm gonna design and implement heavier hydraulically controlled firepower with a built-in seat for the operator. Only one though, because my original idea was for one person to operate it. I'll built-in the chassis for this gear into the flesh of the beast. so stay tuned. I'll be converting the drawing that I already done (like I said before) by drawing only what I need and compositing that piece ove the original scan.

:beer: :buttrock:

03-28-2004, 10:20 PM
WOW! Very nice, you really conveyed a sense of an aged union of beast and machine...


03-28-2004, 10:59 PM
This is definitly the best pencil sketch I've seen in a long time. So much detail and so well thinked mechanical part while keeping it weird and displaced enough to be an eye opener. Good luck!

03-29-2004, 02:11 AM

that looks amazing!!!!!

03-29-2004, 03:23 PM
Yeaahh, wow factor is 1000% :buttrock:
Nice draw technicue, still waiting for you next post...

03-29-2004, 07:59 PM
hey man!
are you thinking in doing your final as you did your concept?... or are you thinking in puting some kind of action in the scene? just to ask.... cause I think you creature in very suitable to make some kind of complex movement or to use it in very angular (perspective) view. althought I m a lover of very frontal, side and orthographic views... I think I used it a lot in my work.
another thing.... what is the real zise of this sketsh???? (if I can call this sketsh... I think is very finished)
I wil not congratulate you now... I know I will later.

03-30-2004, 07:07 AM
Thank you everyone.

tungaunga: I might icorporate it into some kind of scene, but I'll concentrate on the creature mostly, I still have to decide that. the original is drawn on an 8 1/2 by 11 (almost corner to corner)

Here is a sketch I did of the gun I came up with. It will probably change a little. I'll put more bells and whistles on it later. It will fully be implemented into the chassis that will be imbeded into the flesh. Crap I just want to start painting it in photoshop soon.

crits ??


03-30-2004, 08:01 AM
Good pencil work.

I wanted to go back to something you said earlier about making the saddle(s) smaller. I think that's a great idea. All the mechanical detail and muscalature bring to mind much larger animal than the saddle suggests.

i think you'd be right to make it look larger by scaling the attachments that people might use (saddles, the gun etc.)

There'd be an instant sense of size and weight.

keep on truckin'...

03-30-2004, 08:08 AM
The gun is so big that it looks like it's got quite a recoil. Perhaps there sould be some short of elasticity to compensate with that. Maybe the whole thing could be on a sledge that can bounce a bit back and forth.

03-30-2004, 08:28 AM
Yep do it dude!:buttrock:

03-30-2004, 09:09 AM
I agree with Cretiver and Pampuli.:beer:

Tommy Lee
03-30-2004, 09:33 AM

Thats it...:thumbsup:

03-30-2004, 10:05 AM
Cool works and great skill .
Like your words before , it's time to add some armour .

03-30-2004, 12:19 PM
You said earlier that you didn't want to integrate the seat to the monster, since it's not dedicated to hold people on its back. I love this idea, and that's why I really think you shouldn't integrate the gun to it either.
I love your idea of a big creature being modified to be stronger. Maybe thats actually what you said about the gun, I didn't understand very well, sorry. On its hips, I think you should put a kind of structure that can hold a big gun as well as something else. Yeah, if those creatures can live up to 700 years, why would they still have huge anoying guns on their hips once the war will be over?

To be clearer, I think you should put a USB port on its hips, where you can plug a mouse, a graphic tablet ot a scanner, not the scanner itself ;)

Okay, sorry for that looong note, hope you'll read it anyways!
I LUV your idea, that's why I talk so much!


03-30-2004, 09:08 PM
very nice im really looking forward to see the final image i'm shuere it will be amazing!.

sorry for my english.


03-30-2004, 11:36 PM
Like everyone has already said: Impressive work and design! :buttrock:
If I have to crit something it propably would be the position of the monster's right back leg. It kinda confuses me. I noticed that you had placed it differently on your earlier versions. That seems to work better with me.. anyway :applause:

03-31-2004, 06:18 AM
If you keep raising the damn bar then I'm gonna have to buy some f$#@ing pogo sticks!!!!

Lord have mercy!!!

Igor D
04-01-2004, 02:07 AM
My policy is compliments first, suggestions later, so:
I like the presence of the heavy-handed combination of flesh and steel in your concept. While the work of artists (such as H.R Giger) who make the boundry between biological and mechanical virtualy indistiguishable has its own appeal, the juxtoposition of contrasting materials (skin & metal) in your work is great, and can be alot of fun to draw.
When I first saw the beast with only the head rendered, I thought it was alot larger that I now realise it is. What created this impression is this: I thought that the device on top of its head was an open hatch through which soldiers could enter the cavity in its head which acted as a 'cockpit'. In other words I thought the beast was a biological tank.
While this suggestion is probably much too late, I think that my first impression of the concept has a bit more originality, and opens up some really cool posibilities ( eg. the beasts eyes replaced by, or augmented with technology which relay info onto a viewscreen in the cockpit or onto a visor worn by operators.
But what the hell do I know?

P.S I loved your alienware piece :bowdown:
P.P.S good to see a fellow eastern-european on the forum

04-01-2004, 08:09 AM
crazybread, That is some crazy design for a gun. I can't wait to see it on the beast!

04-02-2004, 05:22 AM
merci d avoir donner ton avis sur mes travaux, bonne continuation tes travaux sont excellent,c'est cool:thumbsup:

04-05-2004, 11:34 PM
I was thinking along the same line as Igor D. Where the beast was much larger than it is and it was some sort of tank. It is a cool concept but I really like how your entry is turning out thus far. Has a kind of nomadic feel to it. I could see some sort of Hi-Tech Sand Raiders riding these things blasting pod racers in the distance. A beautiful piece. :thumbsup: Cant wait to see more of your work. I will be watching this thread.

04-06-2004, 03:55 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1081223699_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1081223699_large.jpg)

Thanx for your comments and opinions. I haven't time to do much over the last week or so, but finally squeezed some time in and did the head in test color to explore the textures a bit. Wile the gun is still occuoying about 80 of my thaughts about this projects I loved to free myself from that and actually try some color for a change. Anyways here is a posssible rty at the rendering of the head. I'm not sure if I gi this route. A bit different from the sketch, but than again nithing ever looks like the sketch noo? I'm not sure about this on. Its missing stuff, tonge, metal pieces hair atc, details. ... whatever.

04-06-2004, 05:05 AM
man i couldn't imagine more colour detail! that is insane!

How many different shades and colours have you used and blended together?

04-06-2004, 06:59 AM
Looking damn good. Indeed the bar is getting raised. Looks like we might get another WIP article out of you. Nice work.

04-06-2004, 07:10 AM


Great job with the colours. such talent, I can't believe it

I can't wait to see this thing done. :thumbsup:

04-06-2004, 07:34 AM
Yes... Very, very well! :-)
You give a lot of attention to details. It very much impresses.
But as a whole an image insufficiently volumetric.
(I so think.)

04-06-2004, 07:41 AM
Man you are an inspiration,

no crits here you know what you are doing.....:applause:

04-06-2004, 09:14 AM
Unbelievable, you just took the comp to a whole new level, Kick arse.:bowdown:

04-06-2004, 09:49 AM
off the topic for a sec, crazybeard if you rotate your alienware challenge piece counter clockwise (so the spaceship os down the bottom right) it looks like some crazy cutout of a cliff face... ha..

keep up the crazy work!

04-06-2004, 10:51 AM
Not that this is not absolutely great texturing,
but why not go wild with colors/materials?
This is too expected!
How about whale tipe of skin or cameleon,
or some parts translucent, or....
Well, just a thought.

keep it up


04-06-2004, 11:09 AM
oh man this is really nice , the texture and the lightning are great

This will be a masterpiece !

04-06-2004, 12:58 PM
I think everyone's said it all - very nice.
My favorite part is the rear leg that aimed out a bit. Because everything else is pretty much side-on, it's nice to have an element that adds some dimensionality to it.

04-08-2004, 03:38 AM
Yeah!! GReat color job!!! really amazing

04-08-2004, 02:27 PM
Wow. Looks 3d already. I'd be totally fooled even at this magnification except for the slight smearing around the eye cover. Incredible....

04-08-2004, 03:03 PM
omg !
If it's dark for my monitor, the texture is very impressive... and it's just the head...
you are doing a master piece !

04-09-2004, 10:17 AM
Hey crazybread!

When I first saw the head of this beast I was already thinking: :bowdown:

But now seeing the color coming I just feel: :eek:

What can I say - you rock! Makes me dream of a world with those creatures...

Are you doing that for a living?


04-09-2004, 02:58 PM
This is really amaizing. The colour is great. In fact everything is nice, from the concept drawing to the last colour wip you posted.

04-09-2004, 05:36 PM
It's really looking good Crazy-B

04-19-2004, 10:33 AM

Bloody impresive pencil work.

Love the concept love the pencil work and guess what love the colouring.

As CuppaCam said. Please stop raising the bar. Im going to have to get a human sized catapult.

04-19-2004, 11:13 AM
Amazing work wait to see more ;)
But I think your concept is not really original...
making a simple creature with mechanic parts even if it is very well done like you... is classic...

But anyway wait to see more :D :D :D

04-19-2004, 12:05 PM
But Neozoom , making a creature with mechanical parts is the subject of this contest :)

04-19-2004, 12:17 PM
I love your work!
The coloring is just as detailed and impressive as the pencil. :applause:
You are truly an inspiration for us all.
Rock on!!!

04-19-2004, 01:58 PM
swinging by to see what the 2D guys are going

wow.. impressive!!

love the detail, keep it up

04-20-2004, 09:35 PM

looking good!!

04-23-2004, 12:16 AM
Wowww!! Really really nice work!! I like it a lot. Cannot wait to see the final piece!! Good Luck!! :thumbsup:

04-27-2004, 05:24 AM

I was exploring through the entries and caught up with you entire thread. I guess I haven't been doing my homework on all the people that respond to my thread. and I am sorry it took me so long to see what you had cookin'. I love the pencil work... It's good to see someone spending the time in graphite. usually, including myself, people jump into painting to establish value.

I t made me wonder how you were going to paint it. It would be a shame not to let such a nice drawing show through the color.

So, I have to ask...are you laying a colored photographic texture
under the drawing? I like the look. Could you explain your technique in deatil?

Shawn :D

05-04-2004, 06:57 PM
must... have.... update!!!!!

05-06-2004, 12:11 AM
damn! :surprised you have skills and you are very creative man!
i immediately subscribed this thread.
Wish to see more progress until you finish it!

good luck! :thumbsup:

05-19-2004, 03:42 AM
what's up? it has been a while since you last posted.. I am curious to see your progress.. will you be updating soon?

05-20-2004, 12:55 AM
yes man we want to see some more updates :thumbsup:

05-20-2004, 02:38 AM
yeah your work is pretty bloody good, we want some more...:drool:

05-20-2004, 06:19 AM
Its juz pro man kool kool way inspiring dude

05-23-2004, 09:52 PM
Quality! Very well render work! Fare play dude :applause:

05-24-2004, 01:37 PM
DUDE! That's some 'crazy' - ass talent you have goin' on there! :buttrock: I can't wait to see more paint updates. Your paints are looking SPLENDID!!! :bowdown: Keep up the awesome work, bro... that sh-- is damn inspiring! :applause:

If you're interested, take a lookie what I can do:

Good luck in the contest, you'll obviously be a front runner!


05-24-2004, 03:43 PM
I am surprised that i havent had the chance to check out your stuff earlier, truely amazing, the amount of detail that you have captured is staggering.

Once again i am in awe by the work in these forums. If this is an insight in to how your mind works bud it must be pretty freaky being you, hehehe. :thumbsup:

Cant wait to see the final piece. I wish i could find something to C+C. One thing i was wondering about is what you might be doing with the setting for your creature, do you have anything already in mind or are you still playing with ideas.

In any case, keep it up.:D

05-26-2004, 02:28 AM


05-27-2004, 10:47 AM
hei dude

I'm too anxious for updates...! :bounce: :bounce:

my entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=141195)

Mad Inventor
05-27-2004, 10:45 PM
Originally posted by goli


my thoughts exactly ;)

05-27-2004, 10:56 PM
Dude your sketches are absolutely amazing. I have to seriously say this is one of the best ones I've seen so far in the way of unadultrated ingenious origionality. The only comment I have is to play on what somone said earlier. The creature looks a little off balance. The center of gravity seems to be right around the front shoulders. One more thing. This may be more in depth than you want to go but thinking about this creature in the real world... the creature doesn't seem very agile. For a fighting machine/animal it doesn't seem too practical to ride on something that is slow moving. You could add some armor and make it seem more stalwart...ish. Just some suggestions.

06-03-2004, 03:22 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1086276166_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/4/1607/1607_1086276166_large.jpg)

Hi guys. Its been a wile since I posted. Been busy. well I went back and re thaught of how to go about painting my beast. So here it is a little more of it. I know there is not much time, so I'll try to work arround the clock to finish it. I was going to incorporate a rocky background but now I'm not sure if I'll be able to. For now I just want to finish the creature. Comments welcome. Than you to all the people who responded here before. :)


06-03-2004, 04:01 PM
The detail in the texturing is just staggering. Must be super tedious work and you’d have to have bucket loads of patients.
A labour of love I imagine.
:applause: :applause:

06-03-2004, 04:53 PM
Yay an update! For a while I was afraid you were going to miss the deadline and all of that awesome work would have went down the drain! Glad to see you back at it, though it would have been cool to see the composition you were going to put the creature in.

Details are insane, man. I'm looking forward to seeing how this comes out.

06-03-2004, 05:07 PM
AN OTHER ONE :bounce:

AN OTHER ONE :bounce:

AN OTHER ONE:bounce:

06-03-2004, 06:15 PM
Finally an update!~!~!~!~!

Crazybread, your fianl piece is just going to be amazing, I can't wait to see how your work progress.


06-04-2004, 10:30 PM
it's nice to see ur work it's really good job,
ur work motivate me always to keep going on mine.
thank u for keeping working on
waiting next one:bowdown:

06-04-2004, 11:35 PM
Same as the others !
I wish you best things until the end of the contest !!

06-04-2004, 11:44 PM

Glad to know you're back...Keep rockin'dude.:buttrock:

Visit my 2D Machineflesh Thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=131262&perpage=15&pagenumber=5)

06-05-2004, 08:14 AM
great! an update!
I was really worried about this thread became dead.
Cant wait to see more about this beast!

06-08-2004, 10:29 PM
Your work is very good......will you be leaving any of youe pencil work to show through? There's such a lot of nice rendering not to incorporate it.

Nice job

Good luck



06-08-2004, 11:14 PM
*retrieves jaw from it's place on the floor* :drool: :eek:

I can't even think of words to express how amazing this thread is, your pencil renderings alone were astounding and now your paints, the texture you get with your digital painting baffles me! I want to know how you did that!
I'll definatly be checking back here for updates!

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