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03-17-2004, 12:26 AM
Dimitris Liatsos has entered the Machineflesh 3D Challenge.

03-17-2004, 12:28 AM
Hello everybody...this is going to be fun!!!:bounce:

03-17-2004, 07:49 AM
Kali mera!
Yep, 4 sure! Love the topic, and its cool to see da fellas back in da house!
Best luck and lets rock that thing!:beer:

03-17-2004, 08:54 AM
Good to see you inside Dimitri!

Best luck to you man!

Become the machine! :)


03-18-2004, 01:41 AM
Hey Jim. Lets have fun. :bounce:

03-19-2004, 02:33 AM
I expect fun,great attitude,and always a great piece of work and effort from you Dimi....................I am happy to see you in,and look forward to a wonderful entry as always.See you at your next update........:cool: :beer:

03-19-2004, 03:04 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079708640_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079708640_large.jpg)

Just a first thought.
Comments are welcomed
P.S : forgive my crappy drawing...i am no painter!!!

03-19-2004, 03:41 PM
Nice to see you're in, Dimitris! :thumbsup:

About the concept - if I dare be entirely honest (I know you can handle it) it is sort of a bit too RoboCop imho. The head is different of course (neat hair-do btw :D ) but overall it doesn't feel quite "there"... Just my humble observation.

That aside, best of luck fleshing the machines!

03-19-2004, 03:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079711980_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079711980_large.jpg)

Red bear back ...still searching forms..this is one aproach...not the last one..

03-19-2004, 04:03 PM
@ JamesMK ...hahaha...i know what u mean ....hahaha...but i have to start drawing from somewhere (thought i mean)...i will throw many of the robocopish stuff in 3d if i will deside to make him..Still trying to make some new thoughts ...difficult ...Thanks man!!!

keep on shooting...i am ok!!!...lol

03-19-2004, 05:39 PM
Mm'OK: blam blam blam! :p

No, seriously, I'll view this as the first step of a subtractive/self-generative conceptualization process and await further updates...

Bring it O.N.!

03-19-2004, 07:29 PM
yeah, James is absolutly right. I think I said this in another thread too, but there are so much Robocop-like concepts, you really need to be original...

(look at the winner of the last competition, originality really counts)

03-19-2004, 10:24 PM
:banghead: :banghead: ...u are definitely right!!! i saw it after 2 hours and i definitely hate it...i 'll be back....Thanks guys!!!

03-19-2004, 11:07 PM
I was going to say "you can thank us later" - but then you go ahead and do it upfront - wtf is up with that?


I'll stick around here until you post a new concept! :scream:

03-21-2004, 03:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079881881_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079881881_large.jpg)

A different uproach from the previous one...i think.
Biomechanical Warrior ...dedicated to battle
( Sorry ..too much in games this season have spilled to much in my mind).

Again sorry for my crappy sketch on paper while drinking my sunday morning coffee...cheers

03-21-2004, 03:59 PM
That one could turn out to be quite interesting. I envision a dark, humid environment... some dirt and blood.... A general feeling of heavy and unforgiving machinery.... mmmm'yeap.

03-21-2004, 07:24 PM
Thanks James...
I hope i will show this dark bloody mood with this MachineFlesh Soldier i have imagined...it's pretty easy to be just another Big Gun half man - half robot thing....i hope i will avoid that.

i will think of it a little more...maybe another idea will pop out too. ...maybe more unique...maybe not......lol...i need coffee!!!


03-21-2004, 07:33 PM
Coffee always saves the day (even if it is evil).

You're right that there is a slight risk of predictability here - but then again, I know you can pull it off without going there.

03-21-2004, 09:07 PM
Dark bloody mood,indeed.Looks promising buddy.One to watch for sure.:thumbsup:

03-21-2004, 10:56 PM
That will be quite intense visually Dimi.Lot's of potential fun,gadgets etc,etc...I think you have a sweet concept here.I hope you go with it,it'll be fun as Hell to model.I'll be watching for it's growth.:thumbsup: :beer:

03-22-2004, 09:10 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079946609_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079946609_large.jpg)

..it started. Let's have some fun!!!

03-22-2004, 09:25 AM
Well, here's my official congrats on finally starting to model!

Less than 90 days left now! :D

03-22-2004, 12:48 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079959731_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079959731_large.jpg)


03-22-2004, 05:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079975328_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1079975328_large.jpg)

...modeling continuing

03-22-2004, 05:17 PM
Great details!
Waiting to see more!

03-22-2004, 06:17 PM
Great modeling, keep on doing what your doing.

03-22-2004, 11:01 PM
Gregwid, Virtuoso, JamesMK, mikepol |3D|,Clanger ....:wavey: Thanks guys ...but i must say that i am still afraid that this is going to be another Big Gun half man - half robot thing....
lol...anyway updating soon


03-22-2004, 11:40 PM
Dimitris, :beer: Nice :buttrock: job :wip: man! :thumbsup:

03-23-2004, 12:24 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080044664_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080044664_large.jpg)

Just a placeholder where the two BIIIG guns will be....just to show ( and also see ) scale of this part...don't give notice to the design of theese guns...

03-23-2004, 12:25 PM
:bounce: Hi Ila...glad to see u here...waiting your updates on COW :bounce: :beer:

03-23-2004, 12:34 PM
The massive relentlessness is close at hand I see.
Smooth running, greek thingy! :wip:

03-23-2004, 03:00 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080054044_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080054044_large.jpg)

...i can't stop...continuing on guns Base.

03-23-2004, 03:02 PM
@ JamesMK ....lol

sorry guys i can't stop...it came to this at no time...continuing


03-23-2004, 04:05 PM
It is going great mate!

Xtreme details!!!
:bounce: :thumbsup: :bounce:

03-23-2004, 05:16 PM
Have to pop in again and say "insane mechanics!"

- - - A stupid side note though::.. those rubber (I assume) belts running through the guns base device - looks a little bit like a very vulnerable feature on such an otherwise powerful and near-indestructible device - - - then again, you could call it 'Achilles' :)

03-23-2004, 05:40 PM
looking sweet...let's see some flesh!!!:beer:

03-24-2004, 12:52 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080132726_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080132726_large.jpg)

....i really had too much coffee i think.

Comments and crits are always welcomed.

03-24-2004, 12:54 PM
Thanks Guys!!!
@ JamesMK...hahaha..nice name ...'Achilles' it is then from now on...thanks!!!:bounce:

03-24-2004, 01:25 PM
this is great!
it will look awesome when it's done... are those metal parts going to be chrome?? ...chrome.. :drool:


03-24-2004, 01:33 PM

But really ace looking stuff here mate! Cant wait to see this completed!!!

03-24-2004, 01:40 PM
wow is unbeliavable what people can do while im sleeping:eek:
u re insane (in a good way) this is going really cool, all looks very fine, :bowdown:

03-24-2004, 10:41 PM
Yikes! You're right, you should cut down on the coffee.... Amazing stuff, most likely the bad-assest implementation of machinery in the challenge so far - - - is it correctly set up too? I mean, can you animate it? That would be WIKKID.

03-24-2004, 10:45 PM
@ rattlesnake, Pyke lol ..thank u guys ...just trying to make a much as possible from the mechanical part before i go to flesh.

@ Mathias ...u asked for Chrome ..in next post u will have it...(i love metal!!!)


Edit :

@ JamesMK ...lol...it is all constructed in thelogic to be animated ..yes ..it will be animated !!!....:banghead:

03-24-2004, 11:08 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080169719_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080169719_large.jpg)

metal thoughts about the machine parts...in ...metal...lol

03-24-2004, 11:16 PM
Very complex,very detailed....................Clean modeling as well.Quite the machine.In the end will you go for a more stylish old World worn and torn rusted out look or a more new age claen style?

Flesh meets machine.......Flesh will be very busy with that machine you have created.very nice work Dimi.As always you create fun and interesting creations.............:cool: :beer:

03-24-2004, 11:30 PM
oooh... chrooome... chromechromechrome... :bounce:



03-25-2004, 02:52 PM

03-25-2004, 04:14 PM
Great details and very promising work. Keep it up man :bounce:


03-26-2004, 12:53 AM
@Mathias ...i hope u like your order!!!:beer:

@JamesMK ....lol...hahaha..(falling from chair...) hahahaha....how do u feel now that my work has changed name to "Achilles"????..(by the way ..thanks ..a much more apropriate name than...what i was calling it?...lol)

@ Antropus thanks man :beer:

03-26-2004, 01:01 AM
Well, I'm honored to have named such an evil device... Besides, the name fits so well in at least two different ways that I know of, I could not avoid suggesting it.

Now we wanna see some flesh jammed into this construction! Just force it into whatever vacant space there is, big chunks... don't hold back.

03-26-2004, 01:09 AM
@ JamesMK hahahaha....ok flesh will come ...we have time ...but first i have about the same amount to add in mechanics...lol...i have to complete his mechanical part to the point of being operational!....but flesh will come ....and it will come big...


03-26-2004, 01:43 AM
Hey Dimitri

I remember you from previous challnges. Yours are always the whackiest and strangest entries. Good to see nothing has changed!

Good modelling so far and look forward to seeing more =)

03-26-2004, 01:58 AM
Haha, this hits my Achileus verse... or better not. No rhymes.
Your model is massive. Ouch. I go and make mine now.
Hehe, flesh it up mate!!!http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung0304/spezial/Fool/ven.gif:buttrock: :buttrock: :beer:

03-26-2004, 03:42 AM
Great work as usual. Lots of awesome details. Could stare at it for awhile. Did you ever finish the alienware one? That was nice too.

03-26-2004, 11:58 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080345495_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080345495_large.jpg)

Some first thoughts on guns

03-27-2004, 12:05 AM
Hi Ionized ...glad to here from u again mate!

@ the1st_angel ...hahaha the first emoticon is way cool ..hahaha

@ markw7 Hi man...thanks...about Alienware Challenge...i regret to say that i was very busy at work and for the first time i 've given up on that challenge...but i am making it in 3D now for a short film i am making with 6 characters inspired from Unreal game and some other very favourites games(..to me of course)...so i will post that one finished sometime very soon.

comments and crits guys are welcomed as always!:bounce:

03-27-2004, 01:44 AM
Mechanisms :)
With the sight of all this work of modeling I
am dribbling me above. I am in a hurry to
see a little flesh to the orders of this
machine. I do not have the sketch of the
concept under the eyes, but for the
moment I find that a little unstable
But that tears guy! Amazing modeling!

I would like to ask you, which software do
you use ? Did you used any special software for the rendering ?
What computer do you use :)
that's all... for the moment

03-27-2004, 01:56 AM
WOW ! detailed model I see here...really clean...keep your style and good luck DIMITRI :thumbsup: :beer: :buttrock:

03-27-2004, 02:18 AM
@harnelbe , ***D!D*** ...thank u very much for your kind words friends from France.
The software used is Maya Complete 5 and render is Mental Ray for Maya. Modeling has polys , Nurbs and some SubD...not for any special reason ...just it is easy for my mind to use at the time (...lol).
computer....my new toy Dual G5 (mac) :love:

03-27-2004, 02:29 AM
Yeah! I definitely think it's better than your first concept. I'm glad it's coming along quite nice. :thumbsup: Let's see some flesh!:bounce:

03-27-2004, 05:32 AM
Awesome work. I love the ridiculousness of that huge thing riding on one little shopping cart wheel.

Zachary Taich

03-28-2004, 12:59 PM
a very impressive:eek: mechanism you figured out. its one of my favourites but i think as its supposed to be a war machine it should look more used up. especially the texture looks too smooth and clean to me. Please feel free to correct me if i misunerstood something.
im waiting for your next :buttrock: pic.


03-28-2004, 01:31 PM
wow, your mechanism is looking really fine, how can you figure out all thos mech parts, you should have a good reference or youre completily insane!, love the details, but want flesh!!, just kidding, all looks really promising, keep the insane work mate, ohh a little little crit, for me guns looks a bit square, but looks good, i dont know much about guns so ignore this stoopid crit:drool:

03-28-2004, 05:43 PM
It's hideous!!!

Oh, man, truly a mechanical abomination never before seen (and hopefully never again after this :D )

No, what can I say... it's freakalicious. Too sweet. Absolutely inspiringly weird and wicked.

Please don't hurl on the shell, he just waxed it.

03-28-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by DimitrisLiatsos
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080345495_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080345495_large.jpg)

Some first thoughts on guns

Fantastic modeling, superb rendering... but where's the beef?:buttrock:

Shadow Seraph
03-28-2004, 07:09 PM
awesome model thus far, really looking forward to the "flesh" getting mixed it... you have the 'recktor set going now we just want to see how this beast will bear the burden of life :) looking awesome though, keep up the great job.... if you get a chance post a colored mesh up here, would be wild to see the parts break down mesh wise:wavey:

03-28-2004, 08:29 PM
Looking nice.Modeling looks tight.Wish you could lighten things up a touch,as it's a little tough to make out some details.I agree with others that it should be less smooth,more dirty,it being a war machine and all.Maybe bent here and there.Plus the little wheel works for toons,but your machine looks real World,maybe enlarge it a little,to make more sense.Anyways fine job,nice detailing.:beer:

03-29-2004, 09:34 AM
@ chui1675,zero2zillion thank u guys for your kind words.

@Dr.Paint,rattlesnake,ob-123,JamesMK,Shadow Seraph,Vladvrz ...thanks guys . As for the shiny shader is just a shader i use to show the model 'cuase a co-challenger Mathias likes it very ...it is not textured properly yet...still modelling wip....
As for the flesh - skin - matter.....we have time ...i just have an order in my mind about it which i don't want to destroy right now..
i will complete most of mechanics in a desireable stage and the move on flesh.
Anyway a screen from modeling viewport is following to sho wip in a more clear way.:bounce: :bounce:

Comments and crits are always welcomed!!!

03-29-2004, 09:36 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080552990_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080552990_large.jpg)

continuing on guns a little bit.

03-29-2004, 01:32 PM
Very nice job. This is a nice, complex piece of machinery.:thumbsup: Now we want some flesh!!!!!!(AAAARRGGGHHH!!!!!!)

03-29-2004, 02:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080572185_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080572185_large.jpg)

progress ...and yes some flesh ...although many things
will change with it

03-29-2004, 04:18 PM
Impressive industrial modelling!!:surprised

Flesh needs still a lot of work, but I'm sure you will success in it too! :thumbsup:

03-29-2004, 04:42 PM
Awesome detail Dimitri.
Keep on mate!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

03-29-2004, 05:14 PM
I love your attention to detail

and with man at the front, it's looks like a mech centaur :applause:

03-31-2004, 12:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080692671_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080692671_large.jpg)

Just continuing on modeling the shapes...
Crits welcomed as always.

03-31-2004, 12:28 AM
@ DDS, mikepol |3D|, 2LoOp thanks guys..

and 2LoOp ...i am impressed...u are the first one i think...YES IT IS !!! my version of a biomechanical centaur(y)...thank u:bounce:

03-31-2004, 12:35 AM
sorry no crits, just wanted to say WOW:eek: again, love the legs, great modeling really clean and materials look really nice on it, just love how looks everything together, is amazing , :bounce: :bowdown:

03-31-2004, 01:22 AM
what program did you do this in, this is just.... IMPRESSIVE!!

i should just bck out now while i have the chance lol

great job though:)

03-31-2004, 09:00 AM
@rattlesnake ... you are too kind but thanks...await your Lady :thumbsup:

@Dragoneye thanks man and ...you said

i should just bck out now while i have the chance lol

I say....never give up without a fight!!!!....and a coffee!:cool:

Comments and crits guys are most helpfull as always!!!:bounce:

03-31-2004, 09:22 AM
Yeah! The body!!!!!!! No critics here...just waiting to see the entire work done :applause:

Cya buddy

03-31-2004, 10:57 AM
Cool start on those legs... they look excellent.


:D ... still no flesh though :wip: :wip:

js rolhion
03-31-2004, 11:04 AM
Very impressive render and details on your mechanical parts ! Bravo !!! :thumbsup:

03-31-2004, 12:12 PM
Hey there, Dimitris,

The design is just outstanding.. The details are great... But :rolleyes:

I know this is your idea.. and now to change somthing would be just not rational.. But If its ok.. I'll write some critiques...

The bigest flaw that cought my eye is the stability of your construction... the base of wheels is just too narrow, long, but narrow... The death machine like this would be an easy target if to attack it from side... The second thing is the guy sitting on the front wheel... the idea itself is cool, but to drag such an arsenal behind him, is quiet a dangerous thing to do.. Its because of the bus effect.. (you know when you sit in the bus the most bumpy ride is when your seat isdirectely above the wheel) the same thing here... Also the possibility of getting shot buy your own bullet is quiet big. But.. If there is an advanced system which controls the antishocks so I think the bumpy ride is not a problem.. And if there is a system which locks the fire from the gun when it is pointing at the driver so this is also not a problem.. But on the other hand the reduction of fire power and possibility of attack from those blind spots is increased twise.. Still the second flaw is not so big as the first one..

But if to look on the good side... The design is very impresive.. I like the mechanism which holds the gunsand the idea wheels there thin tyres.. I'm just quirious where are you planing to place an engine for this monstorsoty.. (if there'll be an engine at all) :rolleyes:

well such a coment for now.. Sorry if some thing where mensioned earlier... I didn't follow the whole thread unfortunately

still, great work untill now, keep it up!!! :thumbsup:


03-31-2004, 02:07 PM
Wow, very nice job DimitrisLiatsos, the high level of details is :buttrock: eheheh

very good...

03-31-2004, 03:13 PM
lookin good.... my only suggestion is to simplify or focus on scale so that the focus stays on the life form and not just the machinery

03-31-2004, 03:28 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080746915_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080746915_large.jpg)

Modeling front Part....Flesh is starting real soon( thank God!!!!)

03-31-2004, 03:35 PM
Antropus,js rolhion,wesclei3d ....thanks guys :bounce:

ExanJU,Big_Fish Thank u guys ...Flesh will be in balance and i think in big scale....as for the machinery logig ExanJU many of the stuff u mentioned it's been thought out since my concept (but maybe it doesn't show too well)...as for motor i have some thoughts ..not in concept drawn but for sure in final model.
Don't worry about guns falling or guns hiting the Man in front...everything is been taken care of.....i think...lol

thank u guys ...u are most helpfull!!!

..continue...C&C are welcomed.!!

P.S : @ Antropus ...Get of your PC and take a vacation ...about 3 months ...please....lol :bounce: :bounce:

03-31-2004, 07:30 PM
While the modeling is good,lot's to look at,I have to agree with ExanJu!!!fantasy yes,but still off in any chance of possibility of this thing to work.Maybe with toon,but this is too much on real side.Still a fine piece,perhaps with time more will become clear.:beer:

04-01-2004, 05:32 AM
Nice job man!!!
Keep working!!!:thumbsup:

04-01-2004, 07:31 AM
Nice work Dimitri. Some gonzo stuff going on there for sure.

No crits, its definately your style of design.. maximum wierdness without any thought to real world physics. Who cares? I like it =)

04-01-2004, 12:25 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080822337_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080822337_large.jpg)

finishing front mechanical part modeling.As for balancing and phsical laws....wait we have 2 1/2 months ...:)

comments and crits always welcomed

04-01-2004, 02:46 PM
Amazing work man!!!
You could just try version where he could
connect or disconnect from machine,
but that is just a thought.

Real heavy stuff.


04-01-2004, 05:25 PM
Wow man just Wooweee, nice work and very good job, rock on, you know this is looks a new version of the motorcycles i've seen so much, while because of your nice touches this turned to original work... keep going.


04-01-2004, 06:15 PM
This is starting to look groovy!
cool, fat, weels! :buttrock:


Shadow Seraph
04-01-2004, 06:31 PM
still looking simply incredible... really nothing to say for sure as no way to know whats going on inside your mind

looking forward to what happens as we get closer and closer to the end

04-01-2004, 08:25 PM
nice concept and nice looking render looking foward to see the final image:thumbsup:


04-02-2004, 09:01 AM
:eek: wow ..guys thanks for your kind words!!!.....and EmpY ..remember in the near future this idea of yours...maybe it will come true ..(let me see what i can do!!!:wip: )

Keep shooting guys!!!!:bounce:

04-02-2004, 09:45 AM
Hey Dimitris,

I think YOU deserve some vacation... you are working too hard my friend... what do you think?

Great details and very promising work :applause:
Keep it up!

04-02-2004, 11:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080906413_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080906413_large.jpg)

flesh searching form.....

.....Don't ask....lol

@ Antropus ...lol...thanks man....by the way your hands rock!!!

04-02-2004, 02:50 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080917454_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1080917454_large.jpg)


04-02-2004, 11:43 PM
:surprised ...Judging from everyones silence...i think i overdid it with this kind of body...maybe too
cartoonish...i have to concentrate more i think!!!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

04-02-2004, 11:54 PM
i think the details on the body are cool, but maybe for a more athletic pose u can pull back the shoulders a little bit; and i think theres something weird on the abdominals,
this is a great update, sorry im just making crits without experience, cos is a fact your modeling skillz are better than mine, :bowdown:

04-03-2004, 07:07 AM
It's a great start on the upper body, but I think maybe it needs some more tweaking.

I'd say there are three main problems with it currently:

- The arms and shoulder muscles are way more meaty than the upper chest area and pectoralis, making the whole upper torso look very unbalanced. Either make the arms slimmer or beef up the chest.

- The torso volume feels a bit boxy/rectangular (as a whole, and in certain details like the biceps) and would probably need some more curvature (sort of towards a more cylindrical volume)

- The sum of the two points above amount to a slightly toony appearance, which simply clashes with the realistic (yet warped) look of the mechanical monster this guy is attached to.

That said - it's great to see you're working on the flesh factor now! :thumbsup:

04-03-2004, 08:40 PM
James had some great suggestions, I think. I've been drooling over the vehicle: over-the-top in detail but not distorted in scale. I think the mechanics have a reality-factor that's lacking in the flesh, which seems too distorted to me. Too cartoonish, I guess, which isn't always a bad thing but doesn't seem to fit with what came before. Just my 1 cent.

04-04-2004, 06:47 PM
@ rattlesnake, JamesMK, markw7 ..guys thanks for your observations ...
well JamesMK is CORRECT and the points he is talking about are on target...i realized late at night when i saw what i posted ...again... that i am destroying the look i want to achieve in the model with that kind of body in front...also the errors there...it is (and u are all right there!!!) very cartoonish like and the rest isn't ..and to tel u the truth .. i don't want it to be....so i 'll be posting new beginning at the body...Thanks guys

:wip: :wip:

..and rattlesnake my modeling skills are not better than yours ...i would say worse..but thank u for your kind word:bounce:

04-04-2004, 07:09 PM
Yeah, well, Dimitris, we all know you'll come back with a vengeance in a few days :cool:

04-04-2004, 07:13 PM
:scream: :scream: :scream: hahahahahaha

04-04-2004, 10:18 PM
:) Voila ... nice mesh man!

04-05-2004, 01:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081173571_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081173571_large.jpg)

Click on image for bigger view

Another approach to body from same base ...but with NO cartoonish dimensions ...lol...i think!!!

Comments and Crits are welcomed.

@ Antropus ... i was jealous of your way of showing progress..mine is not so spectacular...but what the heck!!!

@ Ila_Solomon ...thanks man...i am looking forward on your COW progress!!!!

04-05-2004, 02:13 PM
Outstanding progress. great attention to detail mate. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
keep it going.........

04-05-2004, 04:34 PM
Oh, much much better, strange greek person! :D

Now you're on the right track with your fleshy bits.

Two minor things: the clavicle definition is a bit too strong towards the shoulders (front view) - - - the pecs could use some more rounding of their lower-inner corners - - - TOP NOTCH looking backside! Yee-haw! (that's 'yee-haw' in swedish).

04-05-2004, 04:51 PM
That was fast. Nice work. I also think the deltoid is a little plump (I haven't even started my own entry so who am I too advise?), but maybe this version falls better within the overall piece. Are you going for a clean half and half centaur look or a more interwoven machineflesh look? I'd vote for the latter if you haven't decided yet.

04-06-2004, 09:13 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081242813_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081242813_large.jpg)

modeling corrections after comments and crits..and position on metal base.

slinki thanks man!

JamesMK ..i think i corrected more or less the things u said (if i understood correctly!...lol)...thanks and i am waiting your updates too :bounce:

markw7 ...hi ..thanks ...i think i will go for a more interwoven machineflesh look...:wip:

04-06-2004, 09:24 AM
HI DimitrisLiatsos,

the new upper body is much better then the first one.

I'm waiting for the head! come up with!:bounce:

Will you change the position of the body in final pic?

04-06-2004, 09:24 AM
And you were calling me nuts................;)

I always find your work interesting,fun and so very well detailed.Always some of the best comes from Dimi studios.When you look upon your entries you always get your money's worth..............Keep hammering at it Dimi,nice update.You Nut you................:buttrock: :beer:

04-06-2004, 11:35 AM
Looks good now, me thinks.
With some nice posing in the final image, it will look ace!

04-06-2004, 11:57 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081252658_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081252658_large.jpg)

I think i solve the stability problem mentioned earlier....lol

Click on image for bigger view!!!

comments always welcomed!!!


04-06-2004, 12:01 PM
AI DimitrisLiatsos
:bounce: Excited for more!! :bounce:

04-06-2004, 12:09 PM
hi, i think this is getting truly amazing, i think your flesh model is better than before, i agree with James about clavicles, and pectorals, seems that u fixed that already:thumbsup: i just love the way u modeled the back, its great detail there... nice job man, now im wondering how are u going to connect the flesh with the machine?

nice work so far man... the front view is impressive!!:buttrock:

04-06-2004, 02:20 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081261203_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081261203_large.jpg)

With marine TShirt or Not?...that is the question...

04-06-2004, 02:48 PM
My vote for the T-shirt!

But then you HAVE to fix those large dimple where the clavicle connects to the shoulders :D

04-06-2004, 02:54 PM
i love the t-shirt most,go for it,
and realy realy nice work,great concept.i love it,i'm forward to se more.:applause: :beer: :bounce: :thumbsup:

04-06-2004, 03:15 PM
@ JamesMK :cry: :banghead: :banghead: ....i will ...hahaha!

@ kmest thanks man ...good luck on your first challenge !!!

Vote people...T-Shirt or Not ?


04-06-2004, 03:22 PM
Great job man...!
T shirt is my favorite

04-06-2004, 04:37 PM



And - with a T-SHIRT! you can also design a cool logo to print on the front and back of the T-SHIRT! Now how could a semi-nude guy beat that, eh?

04-06-2004, 07:10 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081278641_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081278641_large.jpg)

Har har har.....Do u think i need copyright for this ?

04-06-2004, 07:20 PM
Well Dimi....................I have to go against the crowd here........I always have been a rebel and marched to my own beat............;) ....................No t-shirt.................First off the t-shirt looks very nice,you can sell them by the dozen...............But since this is all about "Flesh and machine".....................i would show more flesh if possible...................Therefore even though the t-shirt is cool,I would go for no-t-shirt............Still either way your guy is coming along really nice,flesh and machine as one looking real good.:thumbsup: :beer:

04-06-2004, 07:51 PM
And OF COURSE, the Virtuoso has to come in here and make sense and all that sheeet :D

How about half a T-shirt then? Just make it shorter and reveal that sixpack - - - I like the logos and all that stuff (not sure about the copyright bit though).

04-06-2004, 08:08 PM
Incredible work! One thing I got to thinking is, where is the motor or is he pedaling it? Maybe I missed the motor? If he is pedaling, which I think would be cool and funny, don't forget to put in a crank. Super job so far, good luck.

04-06-2004, 08:21 PM
hmm, no t-shirt, with t-shirt seems like a super cop, without it seems like mythological new stuff if theres such thing, looks more classical without t-shirt, so thats my point of view:wise:

04-06-2004, 09:03 PM
your modelling skill is amazing if i was looking for people to work on a film i know who i would choose :cool:

is this all in Max?

this is going to look really cool at the end :applause: keep it up

04-06-2004, 10:46 PM
for THE NUTS CLUB!!!!!!
:beer: :buttrock:

04-07-2004, 12:13 AM
IMPRESSIVE !! Modeling, style... And even the way of showing your progress... :thumbsup:

PS : I agree with virtuso (i'm also a rebel :))

04-07-2004, 12:18 AM
Great work Dimitri! You really know how to pull ou the stops and get some work done! It's almost too much to take in. So much detail.

I like the T-shirt, but I have to agree that perhaps its better to leave it off so you can show some more flesh, but hey its your creation, do what ya like!

You've created a giant centaur, spider, machine cyborg. Build many and take over the world =)

04-07-2004, 12:25 AM
Awesome Update. But I agree with Virtuoso and Rattlesnake. No shirt. What about a dragon tattoo instead?

Keep on rockin' and keep em goin' nuts hahaha :beer: :buttrock:

04-07-2004, 12:36 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081298184_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081298184_large.jpg)

..and now let's confuse the matter a little bit.
Something not in concept drawing ...but it will be in final composition. Inspired by the work of an old CGTalker MADRAKE....cheers

04-07-2004, 12:42 AM
Guys THANK YOU for your help and kind words....i will take the road of a Non T-Shirt version, you are right ...in order to show flesh and machine better and also to show more detail on body.

thank you ....YOU ARE ALL NUTS !!! hahaha

:bounce::beer: :bounce:

P.S : the idea of a Dragon tatoo is very nice the1st_angel ...hmmmm...interesting!

04-07-2004, 12:52 AM
yeah go with the dragon tatoo, sounds really cool!, nice modeling there Dimitris:wip: :buttrock:

04-07-2004, 09:02 AM
It is going cool already!
Also I have to agree with the guys about the t-shirt ! You better kepp it off!

Keep going!:)

04-07-2004, 03:04 PM
ha ha ha ,i like it,it gives sence,i mean ....the t-shirt.

and nice modeling for the foot,i love that too:wip:

and you said something about the copyright,do you mean the THUNDER CATS logo on the t-shirt?well if you ask me,i wouldnt allow you to use that ,cause i'm a great fan of those folks:drool: ,and you're lucky that i'm not in the that position,so go for it TOO:bounce:

THUNDER CATS logo ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hmm:

04-07-2004, 03:59 PM
yeah the thundercats logo looks very funny :applause: i like the process that you are doing with the legs Dimitri . Is looking great man , keep it up .

hey , we need updates !!!! :beer:

04-10-2004, 07:24 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081581840_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081581840_large.jpg)

...continuing woman modeling...small update

04-10-2004, 03:46 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081611958_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081611958_large.jpg)

...this is getting nuts!!!...i think!

04-10-2004, 03:50 PM
OMG OMG, Thats it!!!
That does it!!!!!
:scream: :scream:

04-10-2004, 07:24 PM
OMFG! She's got a hood ornament sticking out of her ***!


Cool modeling!!!

(like as if anyone would be surprised.... :rolleyes: ) though doesn't she look a bit... male-ish somehow somewhere? Thighs and pelvis area some way.... I may be way wrong about it though.

Keep going, warped greek thingy!

04-10-2004, 07:37 PM
OMFG! She's got a hood ornament sticking out of her ***!

haha, this is going Nuts, i cant imagine how the face is going to be with that on her ***, i think the legs shape is like mens shape, maybe they are too strong, but maybe is fine cos those super strong girls looks like so... now im confused:blush: , but this is a real nice modeling progress, keep updating mate:thumbsup:

04-10-2004, 07:40 PM
Very great modeling, Makes me curious, how this comes together.
Legendary composition, ulalala, can't wait to see.
Mhmmmm, THe girly looks great, but i agree with James, she is areal hardbody. Is she a warrior?

04-11-2004, 11:19 AM
I just saw your model and concept. Great work. looking for further updates.:thumbsup:

04-11-2004, 01:28 PM
hey man,thats great,i love that,specialy the boots,but dont you think that the lower level of the boots(the one part that touches the ground and i dont know the name in english)is not suitable for walking?i mean it's too flat,it's not like the real shoes and boots.

and i love the way you came from a cylender to a femail body,and i do agree with others,she's more a man than a woman,more like the F.A.A.K.2. caracter in heavymetal comic series.:bounce:

but realy realy great work,i love it.
keep uploading more,i'm waiting.:thumbsup: :bounce:

04-11-2004, 02:46 PM
Hey! Nice ass!Look at mine! (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=131577)

04-12-2004, 07:06 PM
@ EmpY ...:beer:

@JamesMK, rattlesnake, the1st_angel,kmest ...guys thanks...she is really very muscular on legs...there is a purpose for that ....i hope when you see the final composition u will justify this kind of legs ( hehehe:twisted: ). As for the shoes ..they are not finished and maybe they are not the final 'cuase i have some new ideas about them....:wip:

@ madshooter ..thank u very much for the kind word!

@ ob-123 thanks ..hahaha.....i saw your wip too...keep rocking man ...u are on a good road..

..updating soon...

oh..i must not forget...U ARE ALL NUTS!!! ....hahahaha

04-14-2004, 02:59 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081954756_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081954756_large.jpg)

...no..it is not a seat for the lady to sit down...lol

04-14-2004, 04:31 PM
Hmm, it's for you to sit down... right?
I dont see any hand rests, sooo,...hehe
Looks FGreat, very, very technicaly
believeable!!! :scream:
:thumbsup: :beer:

04-14-2004, 05:35 PM
Nice Dimitri, the shader is looking great . are you plannig to keep the shader clean or you will add some dirt to some parts?

The model is very cool and has a lot of detail

:buttrock: :buttrock:

if you can please visit my thread and give me some opinion of my proyect thanks :thumbsup:

04-14-2004, 05:37 PM
Cool update, Dimitris.... and remember you're NUTS! :D

04-14-2004, 05:58 PM
Super progress Dimi!
Keep on modeling mate!

:beer: :beer:

04-14-2004, 11:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081985914_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081985914_large.jpg)

modeling details of the place where the lady will be and the lower part of Engine and holder of the small wheels, although it is not showing so clearly..(next time)...in Mental Ray render....texturing is just for showing....

04-14-2004, 11:41 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081986113_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1081986113_large.jpg)

The main model progress so far in plain Maya render!

thanks every one for you kind words...updating soon

04-14-2004, 11:51 PM
Hey Dimitris,
When you will start to put details on your work????? hahahahaha
You're NUTS you know? NUTS!!!!!!!!

Keep it up, man!


04-15-2004, 12:12 AM
Yeah, actually... I have to second Antropus question about the detailing here.... It's not a low-poly challenge, Dimi - you're supposed to add some stuff, make it a little complex you know.... jeez... a few boxes won't get you very far :rolleyes:


And now, I MUST go to sleep!

04-15-2004, 01:13 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082034812_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082034812_large.jpg)

hand guns....

04-15-2004, 01:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082034902_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082034902_large.jpg)


comments and crits are welcomed!

04-15-2004, 01:25 PM
Hey Dimi I found your new name DetailLiatsos (hihihi) :) :) !

Awesome details as always although this greeny (?!?) render make the image look a bit ugly(MIO)!

Keep them coming mate!

04-15-2004, 08:03 PM
looking extremely well Dimitri all the mechanics looks fantastic , can wait to see more. Keep going man


04-15-2004, 11:47 PM
ah ha! Its looking great man. So much stuff to take in. Great detail, crazy design. Its going to be a good entry =)

04-16-2004, 09:16 AM
Antropus, JamesMK, mikepol |3D|, adr, Ionized ..guys thanks for your kind words...updating soon

04-16-2004, 10:29 AM
yesss !! lots of updates, i like a lot the design of the gun !

04-16-2004, 12:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082117184_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082117184_large.jpg)

...this is getting...arggghhhh!!!

Click on image for bigger pic.

04-16-2004, 12:09 PM
Wikkid! Those handguns are really neat too.... You know, I've always wondered how someone could come up with that word - 'handgun' - because, honestly, where else would anyone want to have their gun anyway? - - - However, you've just provided a much better realization of the term in question.

The tricycle from hell is coming in fast to kick our asses into the next millenium!

04-16-2004, 12:26 PM
The tricycle from hell is coming in fast to kick our asses into oblivion!!!! - To slightly correct James.

Guess you'll fire a few shots in the final composition!


04-16-2004, 12:30 PM
I'd prefer being kicked into the next millenium, if you don't mind :p

04-16-2004, 12:41 PM
James, look what you've done (and V) to the1st_angel's
thread. I loggin' out NOW.
:p :p

04-16-2004, 12:42 PM
>>> James, look what you've done (and V) to the1st_angel's
thread. I loggin' out NOW. :p :p

- No, you don't, and you know it :D


I should, however :blush:

04-16-2004, 01:07 PM
hey the design for the machine guns is stuning, love all little details on them, youre sick!... and the guy there now looks really athletic, the armor is great too, no crits, this is a great update DimitrisLiatsos , details level is insane , keep on rocking!!!

:cool: :buttrock:

04-16-2004, 02:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082126842_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082126842_large.jpg)


04-16-2004, 09:39 PM
oooolalllaaaa,wow man,wow,i love it,i love all of it.very well detailed model.good job man,it's one of my favorites around.go on,i'm looking for more.:thumbsup: :applause:

:cry: i wish i had a little spare time so i cuold continue my challenge,that damn job,no free time.

04-17-2004, 02:26 AM
:applause: now that's some great modelling going there. Nice form on the body dude! You make the difficult stuff look easy! Well done!:bounce:

04-17-2004, 03:02 AM
funky... dude.. keep it goin'!

04-17-2004, 03:06 AM
Amazing work man!! :applause:

04-18-2004, 07:47 AM
Dimi.................The organic work is coming along well.......it will soon be a nice match and contrast at the same time for the excellent machine work you have done........Those intricate parts are done very nicely,I see very nice almost microscopic pieces with nice levels of detail.......Something close to my heart in many ways with your work here.Nice machine,fun,interesting,unique.........Just a very nice job here......You deserve all the coffee and Thundercats you can get ..........Very Nice work friend...............:buttrock: :thumbsup: :beer:

04-18-2004, 09:38 AM
Oh, hot semi-nekkid chick :D I like how you've beefed up her upper back/shoulder area... like a female east-european athlete.... I can't help but think that I would want to see her hips a little bit wider though... just to get some sweet curves for her silhouette... Nice leather works too... those boots are made for serious ass-kicking action no doubt.

It would be nice if her face was overly cute... for contrast!


04-19-2004, 01:06 PM
harnelbe, kmest, Ravendsg, ajitmenon Thank u ver much guys for your kind word..it is always encouraging !!!!:beer:

Virtuoso,EmpY, JamesMK thank u guys ..i listened to EmpY, JamesMK request for wider hips and added some detail on her....update is following after the beep!

04-19-2004, 01:11 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082380262_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082380262_large.jpg)

BEEP !!!

04-19-2004, 01:15 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082380524_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082380524_large.jpg)

and again..full BEEP

04-19-2004, 01:22 PM
:thumbsup: :beer:

04-19-2004, 01:26 PM
Amazing stuff there, almost makes me speechless :-)

04-19-2004, 02:25 PM
M'yeah... very very good. Looks more feminine, yet still very powerful... Excellenté!

Details, eh? Ah, still looks low-poly to me :p ;)

04-19-2004, 11:44 PM
Hey Dimitri its coming along well.

I just gotta say that your characer work has improved so much from your early challenges. This chick is looking great. I can't really fault the proportions other than the shoulders might be a little too wide... but maybe she's a beefy chick eh??

The design on the costume is fantastic. I love the subtle ribbing and straps. very nice work.

04-20-2004, 12:02 AM
hey the design is awesome man!, is very futuristic and the girl looks relly sexy, nice job!, u can make this lady like afroamerican style! the body and strenght says so, what do u think?

04-20-2004, 12:36 AM
EmpY, Anvirol ..thanks guys ..still lot to do!

JamesMK ...hahahaha thanks man! hahaha

Ionized :wavey: ...thanks man ...i was afraid that she will look more beefy on the shoulders area...but this becuase of the armor around the arm that goes up to the shoulders...i see if i can make this more clear on her design...

rattlesnake ......hehehe ...she will be afroamerican style yes...:bounce:

04-20-2004, 01:47 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082468845_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082468845_large.jpg)

progress on lady...gloves and base of face...

04-20-2004, 01:56 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082469416_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082469416_large.jpg)

closer to start of face

04-20-2004, 03:33 PM
Cool gloves, Dimitris... Looks like they are able to interface with some sort of on-board holographic battle control PC thingy.... :D

Some crits on the head : Eyes should go further down; the head could perhaps look better if scaled down a bit along the Y-axis making it less tall and a bit more roundish; make the mouth a bit wider and lips less thick.... All IMHO of course :beer:


04-20-2004, 07:05 PM
She has to lo be stunningly beautiful!!!! I command you!

Gloves are top notch design, would love to see them closer:drool:


04-20-2004, 07:17 PM
The machine looks very nice.Bi work on details,and well done,interesting machine as well.The body looks more like man for now.And the face too,I agree that face is too long.But wip so things wil change,yes.Nice ideas overall here.Good work.:thumbsup:

04-20-2004, 08:30 PM
@ JamesMK thank u for the points u made out for the face ..some i have noticed , some i didn't and with your remarks i will take care of them...thanks man... :beer:

@ EmpY ...hahaha...i hope i can do it ...cuase faces isn't one of my strong modeling places to be...:banghead: ..but i will do my best i promise!!!

@ Franky ..thanks man...i will take care of the face issues... as for the body...it has..to look a bit overmuscular for the role of the character in the final composition...:twisted: ..i will try to giver more a female - sexy touch though!!!!


04-21-2004, 01:12 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082553139_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082553139_large.jpg)

..progress so far ...also changed some stuff that was suggested on the face.

Click on image for bigger view!

Comments and Crits are welcomed.

04-21-2004, 05:29 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082568594_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082568594_large.jpg)

Lady's Hair done !!! ( PaintFX custom Brush on a Nurb surface...which later will be converted in Polygon...arrgghh for render in MR)

Comments and Crits are always welcomed!

04-21-2004, 05:33 PM
Aw rightie! She looks really good in that last image! Very interesting hair too - like Tina Turner in "Beyond Thunderdome", but sort of on acid or something :D

Did I mention that you appear to be totally NUTS?

04-21-2004, 05:49 PM
Yasou Dimitri,

Very nice work. I really like the white hair and the shape you have given it. And great machine model too that I saw earlier. :)
The face/head is looking really cool...keep up the good work!

One thing, I think the neck area needs some tweaking: it looks like something is pushing the skin up...like when you stretch and pull down your lower lip and those tendons/muscles under your neck pull up/out! Try it and you'll see what I mean.

My MachineFlesh Challenge Entry (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=138004)

04-21-2004, 07:35 PM
Cool dude. Looking great so far. I like the efforts you put in to making the suit not symmetrical in the abdomen area. The hair looks sweet too. I think it really adds some character to your...um....character. :)

As far as a crit goes, I would relax her neck muscles a bit. It looks as though she's in a constant of inhalation. Looks like she got stuck breathing in. Try making her neck more cylindrical and having those muscles that go on either side of the windpipe. You know what I mean? This, of course, is just my opinion.

Detailing on the suit looks great too.....

04-21-2004, 08:17 PM
hahaha,now thats good.
i like the hair and the suit.the head is realy good,but i think there are some more tweaks needed in the lip sides and the nose,and even the eyes.and i agree,better work more on the neck too.
but any way,it's realy good dude.:applause:
keep uploding more,i'm waiting.:bounce:

04-21-2004, 08:27 PM
This is some really good modelling - I especially like the suite.

But even if you want her to look strong i still think that she looks a bit too much like a male. I think maybe the key is to make her profile look female. Like a really curvy waist and broader hips. Dont know if it makes any sense but i thought it might be a good idea =)

04-22-2004, 09:01 AM
:bounce: JamesMK ...hahahahah ..thanks....that's an honor!!!

@ M25Driver thanks Theo - Yasou !!! - u are right about neck ...it needs work...up to now i just have pulled vertice up to see how the neck will be ...thanks!
By the way i LIKE the wife concept of yours (and very pro presentation of the colors used...i would go with that one)

@ Sandpiper, kmest thanks guys ..neck part will be updated soon !

@ Trenox thanks man....u are right for the suggestion to be more sexy and female...i don't know though if i want it to be so sexy...everyone is making sexy girls...i want her to look strong -- bad a
ss and a little of Body Builder proportions just to justify what she will do in the final composition.......but anyway ...let me again see wht i can do!!!!

04-22-2004, 09:11 AM
hi dimitris,,,,,,,,,,,,, you're entry has come along way since last time i stopped into say hi ... im really like the way your character has come along the full body suit is sweet and the hair is looking great reminds me of an apache..... cant wait to see more.. check ya later.....PFB

04-22-2004, 11:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082677082_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1082677082_large.jpg)

fixed neck....fixed waist a litle bit to make look a litle more ...sexy....and played a litle with her helmet....and a general wip so far on models...



04-23-2004, 12:17 AM
Wow Dimitri, this girls looks really nice , and i like the helmet and the fur, it looks great :thumbsup:

The suit is perfect too , impressive design.


04-23-2004, 03:02 AM
eisai theos!!!!!!!

04-23-2004, 09:20 AM
Cool looking girl Dimitri!
You have really great progress here!
Keep doing what you're doing!

04-23-2004, 06:40 PM
The work here is very detailed,very well put together,looks real interesting too.I could only speak of the girl,yo be more sexy,she is good,but less clothes,more skin,flesh.More curves.But still looks good,Wih pose things will be smoother to I thinking.Nice entry,really nice one.:buttrock: :)

04-24-2004, 01:01 AM
wow! the girl looks amazing , great job on the face and the hair!!whooo! shes hot and totally nuts !of course;) , everything is coming together really well, and yes shes sexy!!:buttrock:

04-24-2004, 04:21 AM
The NUT force is HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!! All I can say is WOW... great progress my friend :)

Keep it up :beer:

04-24-2004, 05:41 PM
I will say in two word's=> Great Work...

04-24-2004, 06:58 PM
Dimi..................Coming along very well...........As always you come up with both quantity,but follow it up with as much quality...............A nice involved piece of work,details are wonderful,the idea is cool and well designed,the characters are done well,and I like the machine flesh intergration..........Two whole bowls of "NUTZ" for you.................:thumbsup: :beer:

04-25-2004, 06:27 PM
Oh, man, this is NUTS®!

Keep on the good work! :wip: :wip: :wip:

04-25-2004, 09:55 PM

@ParadiseFlyBird ..thank u man for your kind words, i never thought that she would look like an Apache....!!!!

@ adr, spirogyro, mikepol |3D| ...wow ...thanks guys

@ Vladvrz ...hahaha...i really know that many of you would want her with less clothes and more sexy...i just will try to do that with the final pose- expression and coloring...no less clothes ...hahahah ...thank u for your kind words.

@ rattlesnake ...thanks man ...i must admit that yours is sexier!!!:bounce: :bounce:

@Antropus ...hahahaha LUKE my son ....!!!!(...heavy breathing)... The DARK force of NUTS is even stronger to U!!! .....
thank u man...needless to say that i am sorry u didn't take those two tickets i send to u for the HAWAII...away from computers and challenges...hahahahahah

@ rajdeep ...deeply honoured!

@ Virtuoso ..i really think u are a poet man....and i can just imagine a glass of good Brandy and Good Cigar on that small table near the fire....thank u for your kind words!

@ mosconariz ...hahahah i like the copyright on the NUTS logo...hahahahh...thanks man.

Anyway i have the head of the guy now and some small details here and there ...after that the real fun of Posing ...texturing and lighting is coming...hahahah(God it's too much.....what have i done to myself....but i like it :D )

thank u guys ..your words are giving me the amount of courage to continue for what is needed here!!!

04-25-2004, 10:21 PM
Looking MASSIVE NUTS here! hahaha, yeah, fantastic progress and your Girl Rock em all ulalalala, weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!:buttrock: :beer: :buttrock:

04-25-2004, 10:31 PM
Anyway i have the head of the guy now and some small details here and there ...after that the real fun of Posing ...texturing and lighting is coming...hahahah(God it's too much.....what have i done to myself....but i like it :D )

May the force of the nuts be with you... :buttrock: :wip:

04-26-2004, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by DimitrisLiatsos

@ Virtuoso ..i really think u are a poet man....and i can just imagine a glass of good Brandy and Good Cigar on that small table near the fire....thank u for your kind words!

Sometime we will do this,by a nice Greek beach..................I will bring a whole crate of nuts for the both of us.................:beer: :beer:

You always come up with some of the best details,higher level quality and fun factor in all challenges.Great effort and passion,as well as interesting designs as well.....................i'll take one,just get it to work in water,and I'll be all over that thing.Fun and original creations as always Dimi.......................:beer:

04-27-2004, 01:40 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083030022_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083030022_large.jpg)

click on image for bigger view.


comments and crits are welcomed.

04-27-2004, 01:46 AM
Hi Dimitri the textures are coming along quite impressive man, all the details on the suit looks so nice and the face is looking really good.

IMO ill keep the fur as white , gives a good contrast with the face .
but you have the final word .


Nice update :beer:

04-27-2004, 01:49 AM
:thumbsup: looking great dude:thumbsup: nice work!

04-27-2004, 02:52 AM
Very Nice materials for a charming fured girl :)
I love the design of her suit !
A little bit Fetish but, i like it :blush:
LOL :wavey:
Great !

04-27-2004, 04:16 AM
hey, she looks beautifull, maybe u can arrange a little date with her for me inside the matrix:D , beautiful texturing, and the suit is great, it looks real! great job:buttrock: :bounce:

04-27-2004, 08:56 AM
@ adr ...thanks man...and about the color of the hair(fur) i also think i will keep the white ...it gives as you say more contrast.

@ creativer ...thanks man:beer:

@harnelbe ...hahaha ..thank u monsier! I think u are the only one ( with something u said just now ...) who is coming near my final post concept...hehehe:twisted: .

@ rattlesnake ...thank u man...u got a date at Merovigian's bar tonight!!! I have to fixed some things on the UV mapping 'c uase i see some mistakes today and i will texture her pants too

Next update ....Fully Textured - skinned - riggged Lady in a ...interesting pose :twisted:.....soon!

comments and crits always welcomed!

04-27-2004, 11:15 AM
:drool: :drool:
Quick quickkk i want to see it !!!

04-27-2004, 03:07 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083078422_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083078422_large.jpg)

modeling head start...arrrghhh!!!

04-27-2004, 09:37 PM
the girl is so good,this is a very good work man,the model,textures....and the red hair.oh i love the red hair girls,:bounce: i'm looking for one:wavey: (:lightbulb hello ,any body there....)

the man model is going to be cool,as usual:thumbsup:

04-27-2004, 10:43 PM
nice start on the mans head!, oh i cant wait to see that new pose for the lady!! and thanx for the date man:thumbsup: , great job as always!!

04-28-2004, 12:17 AM
@ harnelbe ...hahahah ....:bounce:

@ kmest, rattlesnake thanks guys ...and rattlesnake ...you are welcome man!!!:bounce:

...But before posing Lady ..i think i have to show finished textured model on Lady.....:bounce:

post follows...

04-28-2004, 12:21 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083111682_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083111682_large.jpg)

...... i hope u like it boys and girls.....

comments and crits are welcomed.

Click image for bigger view.

04-28-2004, 12:29 AM
Looking great Dimitri the hair looks perfect and the whole textures rocks man

Is funny how you put the face of your girl next to your avatar face :) hehe

Nice update

04-28-2004, 12:30 AM
Of course we like that, you nuts Greek Modeling Hero!
(notices the girl joined ya on the lower imageboarder down there... wtf are u 2 doin nasty down there, vvery suspicious) :p ulalalala, rock on mate!!!!! :beer: :buttrock: :wip:

04-28-2004, 12:31 AM
notices the girl joined ya on the lower imageboarder down there... wtf are u 2 doin nasty down there, vvery suspicious

:bounce: :twisted: :twisted: :bounce:

...har ...har ...har!!!!


04-28-2004, 01:57 AM
just subscribing:rolleyes:
i like it!

04-28-2004, 03:44 AM
i love your textures for the suit, thats an ass kicking work!!, the arms material is amazing man!!, common pose that girl! i cant wait to see her, ohh and she looks good at the bottom of your images, she deserves to stay there!

04-28-2004, 07:16 AM
The finished textures look ACE! You know your stuff, nutto!

Now pose her, dammit..... :buttrock:

04-28-2004, 02:42 PM
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

04-28-2004, 03:26 PM
holy smokes, u've finished texturing already?
damn you're fast.

really like the hair and the texturing of the suit. Sweet!
:beer: :beer:

My only crit would be that her head seems I little big for the body..maybe it's just the hair ;p

04-29-2004, 11:58 AM
thanks boys and girls for your good words...thank u very much

i now go back continue rigging on the Lady 'cuase she is giving me a little bit hard time with all that belt around the shoulders...i had to make a low rez model - bind that to the skeleton and then wrap the High Rez model on the Low res....arrrrgggh :wip: :wip:


...updating soon.

04-29-2004, 12:25 PM
Great stuff in this thread.:thumbsup:

Do u use some "polybump" -technic (like the FarCry Modelling)? Or what do u mean with building a lowres Mod and wrap a hires??:shrug:

...but anyhow, very, very nice.
Oh man, such great artists in this challenge made me liitle dwarf proud to takin'part in here, too...Keep it up with this terrific work!!:buttrock: :beer:

04-29-2004, 02:58 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083250734_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083250734_large.jpg)

Almost finished head of Man!!!

Click on image for bigger pic.

Comments and crits are welcomed!

04-29-2004, 06:25 PM
Nice machine,very nice detailing.The characters are Ok,I do agree that the chick has too big a head.I think the textures should be lighter in some places,it would bring out the detail better,too dark IMOH.Still like your whole entry,its looking to have alot of nice stuff.:thumbsup:

04-30-2004, 06:48 PM
The model looks cool man , nice details and clean modeling.

:beer: Keep up

05-01-2004, 12:51 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083372662_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083372662_large.jpg)

pose 1....warming up....arggghhh!!!

Click on Image for bigger view.

I hope u like her !!!

Comments and crits are welcomed.

05-01-2004, 01:10 AM
> "I hope u like her !!!"

Yeah, I like her!

05-01-2004, 01:38 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083375478_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083375478_large.jpg)


Click on image for bigger view.

Hope u like this too....

comments always welcomed.

05-01-2004, 01:41 AM
:bounce: Thanks Ila...u make me happy Persian Man !!!:bounce:

05-01-2004, 01:46 AM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083375964_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/5/1586/1586_1083375964_large.jpg)

...last one ....argghhh...

click on image for big view

Comments - crits are welcomed...

more to come soon.


05-01-2004, 03:51 AM
The girls pose is nice , you really made an excelent pose , the composition and the render looking great Dimitri

IMO ill put the left hand over the chair . Maybe she can look more surprised

Rock on man :beer: