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03 March 2004, 10:43 PM (

Hi Friends,:thumbsup:

some times ago I posted one image with the name Cathedral here, now with a new composition, sky and illumination I am posting this, please tell me how it is?

Luciano Neves

little bit more light

03 March 2004, 10:57 PM
Other than having your shadows way too black (they look almost pure black int he really dark places), great piece. Lighten those ultra black spots up a bit and it should be great. The sky is a bit off as well from the perspective.

03 March 2004, 10:58 PM
gr8t modelling, but i think the illumination could have more work, altough its a cloudy day u should hav more contrast on the light...just my opinion :)

good work

03 March 2004, 11:02 PM
simply impressive....:applause: :applause: :applause:

03 March 2004, 09:33 AM
great work! :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 10:08 AM
Outstanding work but I have to agree about the shadows that are way to black is some areas!

Other than that it is a great image!

03 March 2004, 01:56 PM
Wow, that's a beautiful building. Very nice! I agree about the shadows. :)

03 March 2004, 02:55 PM
Great Work MAN!!!:buttrock:

03 March 2004, 03:05 PM
great work!!!

03 March 2004, 03:07 PM
i think im going to jump on the ban wagon and say that the shadows are a little too dark. but if you lighten them up a bit, i can only say, front page:buttrock: nice work and keep it comming

03 March 2004, 03:29 PM
That test with yellow light is very nice, the big one has a very boring light setup.

03 March 2004, 03:41 PM
Olá Brasil.
Excelent job on that modeling.
But i don´t get it if it´s just my opinion or the building seems
sligthly less vertical. something like ( \ ) not ( | ).

Inté. :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 03:46 PM
Olá Portugal, muito obrigado.



03 March 2004, 03:53 PM
Nice model and your textures are good but your lighting is very very dull. Make it more interesting!

03 March 2004, 04:16 PM
I'm afraid i won't agree with the shadows crit: they r ok as they r.
The pic looks just amazing, and the light may seem dull to many, but fantastic to some, wich is my case ;)

Brilliant work! U sure do have my vote!:thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 04:54 PM
Legal Luciano , os detalhes estão impressionantes .

03 March 2004, 05:32 PM
Muito obrigado BartokDesign


Luciano Neves

03 March 2004, 05:35 PM
hehe well done!

I live in Montmartre in a street just behind the cathedral
if you need reference photos just ask I'll do them fo you ;)

03 March 2004, 05:36 PM
Thanks friend Emrah


03 March 2004, 05:46 PM
Parabéns, trabalho excelente! :thumbsup:

De onde você é? Trabalha em que empresa?

03 March 2004, 08:22 PM
Totally stunning! :bowdown: :buttrock:

03 March 2004, 09:29 PM
Hi friends, now the wire:thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 11:54 PM
I believe from a lighters perspective that you've caught the mood very well. The scene may look a bit flat but thats what rainy days tend to do in pictures. One thing I would suggest however, is to throw some pieces of geometry in there, other buildings, to give the scene a bit more depth. And if you've got the time, maybe some rain and mourners attending a funeral or something will really help set the mood. Hope this helps.

03 March 2004, 01:04 AM
Stunning image. Very nice work. :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 06:50 AM
This is amazing. I actually think the blackness of the shadows cast an eerie tone to the Cathedral. Sort of a Horrific aura, the kind of thing you would find in a horror movie, or dark gothic film.

The detail and magnitude of the modeling displayed in this piece is stunnung.


03 March 2004, 11:43 AM
Impressive work ! I found textures really beutiful and amazing the mesh view.

Bravo !


03 March 2004, 12:10 PM
Brilliant!!!!...nothing more to say:thumbsup:


03 March 2004, 12:16 PM
Lovely, although I think as a piece it would look nicer with some kind of sunlight, to accentuate all the detail. Your test rendering with the evening light is a more interesting light scheme.

I still love the image though, 4 stars from me! :wise:

03 March 2004, 01:28 PM
nice work.
i only miss some people here or perhaps trees, it looks "empty" somehow.
but anyhow good texture-work. :)

03 March 2004, 02:18 PM
one thing:
just amazing :applause: :thumbsup:
Great job

03 March 2004, 02:24 PM
I think the image is really fantastic. It's always nice to see more definition on models, especially architecture, but the overcast feeling is great as well.

What would be really great on the overcast version is if you had some light eminating from within. It would help define the structure some more and make the image a lot more interesting.


03 March 2004, 02:27 PM
opá amigo,

voçe tem uma imagem bem feita. a luz é muita bonita. eu acho que o que os outros tentarem diser é que as janelas são pretas de mais. tal vez é por que não tem nada para refletir. o céu deve iluminar as janelas suficientemente. nos renders de baixo, a luz é boa, fora das janelas. a única coisa é a perspectiva. agora dá a sentida que o edifício está caindo para a esquerda. usa um focal length maior, 90mm por exemplo. daria a impressão que é mais reto

desculpe meu esforço de escrever em português, faz um bom tempo que estava no brasil :D

03 March 2004, 03:31 PM
the only thing i see wrong with it is the lack of darker areas where rain would drip off causing the gray of the brick to a darker dingier gray.

Other than that, Great FREAKIN JOB!!

03 March 2004, 03:45 PM
fantastic modelling

03 March 2004, 04:08 PM
If you check the link he`ll find some more renders with more realistic enviroments.


03 March 2004, 05:24 PM
impressive:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 06:28 PM
What a wonderful piece of modeling and texturing :bowdown:

To make it slightly better (I still think the sky doesn't agree with the current state of lighting of the cathedral) some rain effects and some people mourning in front of the cathedral would be .. Wonderful!

Can't wait to see more stuff from you :)

03 March 2004, 06:47 PM
Cara ficou excelente seu projeto:bowdown:
Não brasileiros estamos tomando conta do mercado 3D. Caso você queria conversar com outro profissional 3D estamos aí.

msn messenger:

Valeu, fui

03 March 2004, 07:55 PM
I was watching at ur render and noticed something really quickly, ur model is all good.....but ur model's edge is not smooth which make ur image a bit fake.

buy youself a video card with AA and AF feature...

and the model is amazing though...=D

03 March 2004, 07:59 PM
I will create a cathedral in this few week for assignment, and this giV some inspiration to me.
Very nice modeling and texturing:thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 08:31 PM
the pageing is not too good, the object you want to display should be a lot further from the viewer.

the perspective vamera you are using is painfully distording the angles of the building giving it a dinamic look which in my op. is not good at all for a catheral.

i don't know how composed this piece of architecture maybe it was a famous architect along the course of history, but judging from where architecture stand today this is what i have to say:

- there is a rythem of 5 penetrations along the side of the building, that's not very good.
- there is a eterogen rythem of 3 penetrations on the front facade with the middle penetration standing out, this rythem should be evident in the volumery as well. maybe there is...
- i don't think i'm able to comment on that

in any case i think there is too much 'noise', i'm curious though who made this. hope i wasn't an ass :D

technically speaking, it's excellent.
hope u enjoy my post


03 March 2004, 08:38 PM
ah! just been to your site hahha :D

seen the upper view perspective

the main vertical dominant rises too abruptly from the main hall of the structure, it needs a 'prelude' volume

03 March 2004, 09:18 PM
Ae Luciano Blz!

Cara casca grossa essa sua imagem! Muito bom esse trabalho, modelagem, textura e composição nota 10:bowdown:
Parabéns pelo trabalho ótimo trabalho! :bowdown:

Um grande abraço.
metaballs (

03 March 2004, 09:38 PM
holy crap that's awesome :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

03 March 2004, 09:43 PM
hrmm..I was going to say that there was something wrong with the Fence illumination..for some reason that thing just jumped out of the picture, looked a bit out of place.....odd it hasnt been mentioned more IMHO.

03 March 2004, 10:35 PM
brilliant piece of architecture

03 March 2004, 10:41 PM
I don't understand why you'd say that the lighting 'isnt' dynamic enough'.... not everything has to be lite by orange and purple lights and set at night with laneterns and shit. It's realistic to an overcast day. I like it a lot.

03 March 2004, 11:20 PM
Really cool! I see that every day out my window!!! (No kidding) :)

03 March 2004, 11:48 PM
Very nice. I do think this could hold its own if thrown into a live-action shot.

But you do have some unresolved composition issues. Nothing a move of the camera wouldn't fix, thanks to the medium, but still an issue non-the-less. Depending on what you want, you can either take Raul's advice and move the camera back enough to straighten the lines and give us a full view. That is good if you want us to be more objective or technical. The other is to move in even closer (or better yet, just crop the image) so that the dome is cut off at least a quarter of the way. Right now we're left wondering just what is at the very tip-top of this thing, which, unless you intend to reveal something odd is infact on the tip of the building, is distracting us from the rest of it. Cutting more off by putting the camera closer will make it more natural, since people rarely walk around looking up at stuff, but will still give us enough to see that this is big and important. At least, that's the theory.

I hope this helps a bit. Overall, you've got nothing to worry about. The model, the lights, and for the most part the textures are all solid work; anyway, in the real world it's the DP and the director who dictates where the camera goes.

03 March 2004, 12:03 AM
This looks amazing.

03 March 2004, 01:12 AM

03 March 2004, 01:18 AM
fantastic job!
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 01:30 AM
excellent, very impressive!:thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 06:14 AM
Thank you very much my friends, tomorrow I will be answering all of the e-mails and inserting one more test image.

- Thank you very much
- Merci beaucoup
- Danke schön
- Grazie mille
- Muchas gracias


Luciano Neves
IT - Inutilia Truncat

03 March 2004, 06:58 AM
:bounce: New images, old test.

Luciano Neves

03 March 2004, 07:09 AM
Parabéns Luciano! Excelente trabalho :buttrock:
I agree with some comments about the "too black areas". But looks really like a photo (maybe not the real thing, but A PERFECT PHOTO).



03 March 2004, 09:11 AM
very good!
Too dark even in the one with more light.. Maybe it is to set a mood but I'd prefer a more exposed one, still having a cloudy day feel.

Another thing I noticed immediately is the mirrored textures on the front wall...

Keep up the good work!

03 March 2004, 12:13 PM
:bounce: :thumbsup: :bounce:
wow, Vary impressive .

03 March 2004, 01:17 PM
Great job man i Think that lightning are super, I like this dark ancient atmosphere....

03 March 2004, 03:34 PM
:bounce: great still with a very high qualiti lighting!!!

03 March 2004, 06:56 PM
Ah, nice lighting

p.s. I do think the texturing is nice in respect to the feel of the surfaces and the bump. However, I do see some repeating and reused textures in obvious places. Other than all of that, I likey...

03 March 2004, 08:08 PM
Hi friends,

Tomorrow I will put here one camera animation in turn of the basilica await almost finish:bounce:

03 March 2004, 09:16 PM
Its fascinating man, but you really should take it into a real enviorment.

03 March 2004, 10:34 PM
beautiful piece....i love it:beer:

03 March 2004, 02:48 PM
animation wire almost finish.

03 March 2004, 03:04 PM

AEEEEEEEEE!! tá aprendendo, hein! Ficou boa essa fota da igreja...
I´m kidding! It´s a masterpiece! It´s a great work or art! It´s an honor to have such a professional as you are working here in our company! Congratulations once again...

best regards,

Luiz Felippe Santos Cavalcanti
Inutilia Truncat

03 March 2004, 03:24 PM
Hi Friends,

As I made the promise here it is the link for the animation test for the "basilic wire"


Thakns again everyone:thumbsup:

Luciano Neves
IT-Inutilia Truncat

03 March 2004, 08:36 PM
My second post..
doing anything about the mirrored textures?

also, more exposure, reminding you again! (it is a cloudy day but you can still burn your film if you keep the exposure long enough, just like you can get a dark image ona very sunny day with ultra low exposure., you have to be balanced, this is dark..

03 March 2004, 08:47 PM
Hi friends,

I will making little changes this week, about windows and skies...somethings...then when it is ready I call you.

thanks again:thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 08:32 AM
holy freaking.....

I don't care what they say, but...

You should be banned here for posting a picture as a 3D work!!! this is a photograph! A PHOTOGRAPH!!!

A photograph of a cathedral on a cloudy day!!!

by the way, how did u make the sky look out of perspective? You're a very clever photographer...


No, really. If THIS is a 3D work, i don't care if it's too dark but it's one heck of a photorealistic one!

if you're a cg artist, keep this up! Good one! If you're a photographer, (i'm not saying you're one), keep it up as well, but get outta here!!! But of course, i'm pretty sure you're an honest person posting a 3D image in a 3D forum. hehehe. Your picture... i mean 3D image... is pretty unbelievable. :eek:

03 March 2004, 02:41 PM
very realistic!

03 March 2004, 03:45 PM
wow.... i'm impresed. Magnificent modeling & texturing. Personally i think it's great !

03 March 2004, 02:54 AM
I do like this piece, but the shadows look somehow ~ static ~ and I don't get a feel of depth.

Looks like a shot from a video game.

But good work all the same.

03 March 2004, 05:09 PM
Yes work serious!!! :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 06:58 PM
i like ur old romance style architecture... show the complexity of it, the global illuminassion seems dun have much contrast on it... i would like to c ur wireframe...but really make me impressive of ur effort on it.... :thumbsup:

03 March 2004, 07:22 PM
great work Luciano Neves,

liked everything from the modeling to texturing to lighting the scene, amazing detail. where did you get this design of the cathedral? did you make it your self or composed it seeing other cathedral? great again ...

03 March 2004, 08:50 PM

Martin K

03 March 2004, 02:19 AM
Thanks a lot:beer:

03 March 2004, 02:01 AM

Great Man !!! the details are amazing ....

03 March 2004, 02:18 AM
Hi friends,

here one more test shader:thumbsup:

08 August 2004, 05:48 PM
First I would like to thank the every team of Ballistic for doing an excellent work and for the invitation to go Siggraph2004 and also to thank all friends.
Now we can check the image " The Basilic " in the book Elemental in the category Master Environment:thumbsup:

Thanks a lot:bounce:

02 February 2005, 08:39 PM
I have seen your work so many times.....but everytime I still get impressed.
AHH MULEQUE!!:thumbsup:

See ya!

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