View Full Version : Game Art Comp 5 : NicoDN : Ultima VIII - Avatar

01 January 2004, 06:33 PM
My entry is the challenge ! Do you remember Ultima VIII Pagan and his great hero ? I've named the Avatar !
4 pixels by 10, a great hero !
My ref pic :

01 January 2004, 07:33 PM
Nice to see you entering this comp. Avatar is cool... Ultima rules.

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Erotic Fetus
01 January 2004, 03:19 AM
i loved that game when i was smaller, i think i played one of the earlier games of the series, it's just too bad i couldnt understand it 100% since i was about... 9 years old back then.

When i envision him in 3d, i imagine a ned kelly-esque person.

01 January 2004, 01:44 AM
Thanks to be here m@ ! Hoping see you in another challenge, and on Expose 2 especially.

Erotic foetus, it's cool to see another Ultima player. For my, I've just play on the 8°, but it was in 1994 and I was ten... But if I remember, m@, you've played on Ultima VII Underground, no ?

My first attempt to do a sketch for Avatar. I'm not proud of me, and I hope I gonna be a better modeler than drawer...
I'm wrong with this helm but I've tryed several type of helm with ref pics... I don't know what it's wrong ( ? ). More problems too...

I gonna do anothers pics, but actually, tell me what you think about that :

01 January 2004, 02:09 AM
pas mal. But I assume he's got a chain mail , a helmet alone looks strange... the proportions are overall good :) . Keep concepting until you're satisfied.

01 January 2004, 07:42 PM
Hi NicoDN,
I think as well the helmet could be better. I would take references from real medieval helmets and take ideas for your design.
Modelling is a matter of work and patience, I think. Drawing is much more important in my opinion, itīs a matter of talent that can be trained little to little. After all almost every 3d becames at last 2d. So, my advice, keep on drawing.

My link is already working properly. Sorry it did not work for you last time.

01 January 2004, 08:50 PM
i'd suggest giving him pants. that... just doesn't look right o.O

01 January 2004, 12:02 PM
Oh man, love avatar, he's so cool. However I have to admit I don't like that concept so much. In Ultima VIII looks like he's got sorta knee-high metal boots and the helmet doesn't seem to get any wider at the base, whereas the one you drew does. Also, I thought the helmet had one wide slit for the eyes, not induvidual holes? Bah, I dunno what i'm talking about, good luck with the model.

01 January 2004, 11:48 PM
Maybe try getting a screen capture of the Intro? You will be able to see more details of avatar in that. Good luck. Cool character. :)

01 January 2004, 06:22 PM
Thanks for comment everybody, happy to see others people liking Ultima's serie. Sorry for the absence of progression, I have a lot of personnal problems for now and no time for CG art.
This new sketch try to correct some problems you evoke... Helmet was re-done with XIII° century french helm, I do longer pants and metal boots as he seems to wear in the game.

Have fun everybody, this challenge is turning good !

01 January 2004, 08:14 PM
In what ways is your darwing diferent from the sorce? Reread the contest rules.

01 January 2004, 09:38 PM
YerEvilTwin, what's the problem with this ? You just don't have to inspire yourself from a 3D existing model, I don't think it was a problem to keep the original design.

01 January 2004, 11:22 PM
excerpt from contest rules:

"Your goal is to take a pixel character and recreate it in 3d but without using existing design of the official 3d characters "

I dont really know how to interpret this, but personally I don't see the point in just copying another person's design.

01 January 2004, 11:28 PM
It's too much like the sprite. You are not making the model your own. You are just copying, and that's not artistic. What is artistic and original about your concept art? I'm trying to help you, that's why you posted it.

It's a bad concept, try again.

01 January 2004, 03:15 AM
My impression of the content rules was that, if there wasn't already a 3D model, it was fine to follow the design of the sprite.

The point was really so that people couldn't just find reference for the Mario mesh and copy it, claiming it was their design. We are allowed to recreate a sprite in 3D, straight from the sprite reference, if desired.

Don't try to enforce the rules, guys. You're starting to sound like hall monitors.

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