Mesh Surgery 1.1 Update

[ritter]

Hi mdme_sadie

These are very good news.

Do you offer a download link for the update ??

Regards axel

[mnu]

Hi,

what good news in the morning. Now really everything I ever dreamt of is built into this fantastic plugin. Is this a free update for current EB users? If so, where can I get the update?

Thanx in advance,

cheers mnu

[Per-Anders]

a link will be posted out directly to all those that have already purchased. I've already sent out my lot, Paul will be seinding his instructions out later on today (it's currently sleep time where he is), I hope that the slight delay for some of you wont be too much of an inconvenience :)

[mnu]

cooooooooooooooooooooooooool!

[manlio]

Fantastic new features :eek:.
It's sure you're writing a piece of the core of the future version of Cinema. Impressive.
Did you plan to add (if not just implemented) a sort of shift for snapping rotation at fixed angle. Everytime writing 90° (or similar) in the coordinate manager is quite annoying and slow the workflow.

[Per-Anders]

try holding down shift while rotating ;)

(you can set how many degrees of rotation it quantizes to)

[manlio]

:blush: Oh sorry, It works only if quantize is on and so I didn't notice this. Thanks for the tip :shrug:

[manlio]

Another mistake. Today stop posting. I'm to tired....

[designresponse]

Absolute Genius!:beer:
This is all I could hope for and so much more. Congratulations on re-writing C4D modelling. I am really pi**ed off though as I am too busy animating to play with it.
Thanks,

Peter

[Geespot]

Unbelievable!

I went through the videos from top to bottom, and my heart starting beating faster and faster as each video went by due to excitement.

This is much more than just an update, Thank you The Third Party for making such great tools

[ThirdEye]

the best part of the whole thing is that mdme_sadie always listens to his testers suggestions :thumbsup:

[flingster]

THERE IS A GOD....
Much much respect on this guys.

(i remember bitching about the axis in a number of threads/posts...whether any of my comments went in one ear or out the other is relevant now....and your solution totally resolves my complaints at the time...Thank you both)

MAN MY SMILE JUST GOT BIGGER....fantastic stuff...

[neonghost]

cheers for the update and additions.

I have one small quirk, though - when rendering deadlines are tight I usually add my creation workstation to the list of NET clients, but as it uses the same plugin directory as the full cinema (which has mesh surgery), I'm constantly asked to supply a serial everytime it is launched, and tracking down the serial each time gets a little tiresome.

anyway around this?

cheers

[Per-Anders]

this update should fix that have you tried the update with net yet?

[mwa]

Most excellent, coolest part is that when I watch your movies I can´t understand that all this stuff isn't already built in they look so natural.
My only problem now is that I have to work with XSI for a couple of weeks to help out at a basic 3d Course at my University and these tools will make it inpossible to start XSI instead of Cinema. So I'll have to wait a little longer=(.
Thanks alot for your great work!!
Magnus

[SheepFactory]

These are simply incredible.

Thanks to you i'll start modelling in c4d mdme :)

[neonghost]

hi sadie,

I am still encountering the problem after the 1.1 update. This has also been an issue with samir's DCL, but cancelling that particular plugin registration dialogue does not seem to affect the functionality (nor trigger the reg box) when I start the core again - unlike MS.

however, this isn't really a big issue - I should really move the client to another directory with it's own plugin path.

edit: forgot to mention that I'm using the 8.207 pc versions of both c4d and net client.

cheers~

[WQP]

You owe me medical bills, I read the features, then passed out cold from shock as my head hit the computer!

Oh wait I live in Canada so no worries ;)

Seriously though, amazing stuff here! Has Maxon sent you that truckload of cash yet?? ;)

Yay Mesh Surgery!

[davedavidson]

help guys
i have just installed the upgrade as it said in the file
and now every time i clcik liquid nitro c4d crashes
so i cant use it
if any one knows the prob can u please email me or even better
msn me on davidson001@aol.com

i am on 8.207 PC

thanks

[Erik Heyninck]

Still waiting for Paul..., and hoping I didn't delete his mail with the spam...

One remark: Flash movies are ok, but I would like to sownload the movies so I can save them with MeshSurgery on my backup. You never know what happens...

Can this be done?

[davedavidson]

aint there an app for saving qtmovies from the net
dunno wat its called though sorry
im still waiting too
i need this sorting :( all this power just waiting and i cant find the switch ;)

[Geespot]

You can download the flash movies onto your hdd by removing the .html from the link, and use a download manager to download the .swf file.

for example:
change
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/newgizmo01.swf.html
to
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/newgizmo01.swf

and use that bottom link in a download manager. You can also right click the bottom link, save as :)

[bobtronic]

Originally posted by Geespot
You can download the flash movies onto your hdd by removing the .html from the link, and use a download manager to download the .swf file.

for example:
change
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/newgizmo01.swf.html
to
http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/newgizmo01.swf

and use that bottom link in a download manager. You can also right click the bottom link, save as :)


Also assuming you have a PC and using IE the *.swf files are
in the "Temporary Internet Files" folder.

Bob

[chris_b]

BRAVO!
:applause:

I didn't think that Mesh Surgery could get any better...
This is almost too good to believe. It would be tragic for
these tools not to become part of the Cinema core.

The best thing about these tools (and the reason why
the BhodiNut and Cidertank stuff always shines) is in
the quality of their implementation. They are smooth,
clean and look fantastic -- class A quality from top to bottom.

mdme_sadie.... Question :

Have you and paul given any thought to
adding a polygon count/mesh info HUD in the viewport?
Also, a functional shaded-wire (edged faces) mode when
modeling with HyperNurbs would be a great addition.
I never have understood why the option isn't there in C4D.

[Gunter]

Paul pleeeease have pity on me :wavey: :)

cheers

[chris_b]

Gunter.. you are not alone

Paul.... pssst.... are you still awake?

I may have to wait until... ugh... Monday

[davedavidson]

imagine how i feel
i have it installed and it dont work
now that is frustrating dont u think
:/

;)

[Per-Anders]

hi, _dd did you follow the installation instructions correctly in the install readme? (the update has to be installed correctly by following those guides, and not overwriting any folders in the mehs surgery folder itself, just certain files.

[flyingP]

Originally posted by Erik Heyninck
Still waiting for Paul..., and hoping I didn't delete his mail with the spam...


That's been worrying me as well, and I am away from the computer tomorrow.

[davedavidson]

yes i only copied the contents and not the folders as the read me said
and still naddaa
like i said the tools that are showing work
just some are missing and when i click on nitro it kills c4d

[Per-Anders]

it sounds like you have 2 installs of mesh surgery in your plugins folder.

try installing again from scratch after removing any mesh surgery folders in your plugins folder.

first install the original mesh surgery 1.0 then unzip the update outside of your plugins folder and copy the files in as requested (remember to copy the contents of the folders into the already existing folders, not overwriting the folders themselves). and overwrite the MeshSurgery.cdl /.xdl that you've already got.

[davedavidson]

k i shall try this in the morning
but as stated i only installed the items in the folders and not the folders
it asked me if i should over write the files and i said hell yeah over write them
then i started c4d
so i shall let u know wat occurs tomorrow i was going to do a fresh install anyway to see if that clears it all up

thanks for replying fast m8
cant wait to see the new features
also did u see my bug in mesh brush that i posted in the other thread.

[acmepixel]

Originally posted by bobtronic
Also assuming you have a PC and using IE the *.swf files are
in the "Temporary Internet Files" folder.

Bob

I just tried it out of curiosity and it works on a Mac with Explorer, using the download manager.

But I prefer to use a shareware app called Web Devil. It works better and downloads all the links on the page into the same folder hierarchy of the web site.

www.chaoticsoftware.com

[flyingP]

I don't seem to be able to use vertexmap paint with mesh brush, I keep getting an "unable to read file" message although it is in the correct folder, everything else seems to be working fine.

[Per-Anders]

hi, there appears to be a flaw in the text file for that script... however the script is really just an example... use the inbuilt vertexmap paint instead which is by it's nature faster. it's just about Selection Brush

if you really want to play with the script, then load it up in a text editor, then copy and paste the text into the little coffee script window under teh script tab, either make a sctroke to see that it works, or hit compile to check that there are no errors, then click the save button in the dialog, and save into your meshbrushscripts folder as something else (delete the original after htat). hopefully that hsould fix it.

[tapaul]

>just some are missing and when i click on nitro it kills c4d

this will happen if an icon file is missing from the res folder.

cheers

Paul

[Jake-L]

A couple of questions on the update:

I don't get the MirrorVice to show up anywhere (Menu, Command Manager. Wot gives?

The "Extend" feature doesn't seem to do anything at all (I didn't really test it with the EB release. The Getting Started doc has a brief description but how does one use it?

Also, I get none of the Position/Direction controls for the falloff as depicted in the flash movie at http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/falloff01.swf.html

Any info would be appreciated.

XL 8.2/BP 1.1, Win2ksp2/Wacom Intuos

[Geespot]

I get a not enough memory error on the Ramp mesh brush script.
It happens when i click Ramp.txt from the list of scripts in the combobox :(

BTW I really like ObjectOnSurface, well done

[Geespot]

Originally posted by Jake L
A couple of questions on the update:

I don't get the MirrorVice to show up anywhere (Menu, Command Manager. Wot gives?

The "Extend" feature doesn't seem to do anything at all (I didn't really test it with the EB release. The Getting Started doc has a brief description but how does one use it?

Also, I get none of the Position/Direction controls for the falloff as depicted in the flash movie at http://www.peranders.com/c4d8/ms/mov/falloff01.swf.html

Any info would be appreciated.

XL 8.2/BP 1.1, Win2ksp2/Wacom Intuos

Same with me, but I don't think its a bug. Just we don't know where they are :shrug:
Took me a while to find that axis gizmo thing.

Also the extend don't do anything for me either, but I think its just down to that I don't know how to use it, I havn't read the Getting Started doc yet

[Per-Anders]

download the latest version of Mesh Surgery (just posted about it in the other thread here) and then if it causes a problem, load in the ramp file into a text editor, copy and paste it back in to the script editor and, and resave using the button in the mesh surgeyr dialog.

[Jake-L]

> Just we don't know where they are

Well' I'd expect to find MirrorVice at Liquid Nitro, but mine has got a few suspicious blank spaces in it -sometihing that didn't happen with EB.

[Geespot]

Originally posted by mdme_sadie
download the latest version of Mesh Surgery (just posted about it in the other thread here) and then if it causes a problem, load in the ramp file into a text editor, copy and paste it back in to the script editor and, and resave using the button in the mesh surgeyr dialog.

ahh thanks, got Ramp to work now. I didn't see the update thread :rolleyes:

[Per-Anders]

Originally posted by Jake L
> Just we don't know where they are

Well' I'd expect to find MirrorVice at Liquid Nitro, but mine has got a few suspicious blank spaces in it -sometihing that didn't happen with EB.

Mirror Vice is a tag, you'll find it in the Expression Tag menu (same menu as you find Xpresso). The liquid nitrogen menu hasn't changed from the first release apart from the addition of look down x, y and z (if you don't believe me simply re-install the first release. The spaces are caused by a bug in cinema's sdk, where itshould display just seperators, instead for some reason it displays spaces.

[Jake-L]

Thanks Per-Anders, Vice found -where I should have looked in the first place! :blush:

(end shame mode, re-enter quiz/nag/worry mode) ;)

1. The Extend command still remains a mystery of the "nuthin happens" kind. It could well be me again - but the tool doesn't seem to behave as described (repeat edge extrusions etc)

2. I also get the "Out of memory" error with ramp and the re-save trick doesn't do it for me. I suppose you mean the ramp script, not the "._Ramp.txt" file included in the update.

3. Are we supposed to havePosition/Direction controls for the falloff (as in the demos)?

I love this baby, so I'm just checking that it is in perfect health.
Long live the 3rd Party!:bowdown:

[Gunter]

No out of memory on ramp now - the resave trick did it for me.

I´be interested in the purpose of

._Pinch_Twirl.txt
._Ramp.txt
._Ripple.txt

Loading into Coffee editor doesn´t show anything. Seems to be not a normal textfile. Are these files necessary?

Thanks
Gunter

[Rabbitroo]

Originally posted by Jake L

1. The Extend command still remains a mystery of the "nuthin happens" kind. It could well be me again - but the tool doesn't seem to behave as described (repeat edge extrusions etc)


Think of the extend command as a zero-length extrude that doesn't change your tool mode. This command extrudes a new poly selection and selects the extruded copy. Until you move/rotate/scale the extruded copy you won't see anuthing as the copy is in the exactly the same place the original. To see something happening, try this: create a cube, make it editable, select a face poly, hit extend, and then move the selected poly. You'll see it's been extruded.

When attached to a key (I use Shift-X) it's a real time saver to quickly add geometry without needing to change to tools. For some modelers this is a real workflow improvement.

-K

[Jake-L]

Thanks for clearing the matter up to a cloudy mind, rabbitroo!

Yea, this tool loves a shortcut :thumbsup:

And, I even got me ramp working after a second re-save routine via notepad :applause:

[mnu]

Hi ,

I just downloaded the update, finally. I'm impressed. Very good work by you two. I really can no longer imagine how to model without Mesh Surgery in C4D.
But there's one thing that makes me wonder a bit. Why do the hindge tools not remember the tool settings. Is this intentional? When I switch back and forth from hinge Tools to the C4D Select Tool and I had HingeMode->Axis selected the next time I activate Hinge it shows again HingeMode->Edge. This is a bit disturbing. Or do I overlook a fundamental setting.

cheers mnu

[Per-Anders]

Originally posted by Jake L

3. Are we supposed to havePosition/Direction controls for the falloff (as in the demos)?


if you want those contorls all you have to do is set the mode from Simple to Advanced in the preferences tab.

If you don't need numerical, then just press tab to lock/unlock the falloff (locked it will bring up it's handles so you can grab and move it around as you please).

[ThirdEye]

PLEASE LET'S START USING THE STICKY THREAD.