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Stefanlp
07-07-2011, 07:36 PM
Ok, so i recently started modeling a character by a tutorial on 3dtotal, but i have a problem with the leg, i do all the things stated in the tutorial but my leg looks blocky whether his looks really smooth, and seems to have more polygons than mine.
the tutorial (http://www.3dtotal.com/ffa/tutorials/max/joanofarc/body1.php)

http://pic.mk/images/untitl1310067492.jpg
http://pic.mk/images/21310067531.jpg

Psyk0
07-07-2011, 09:34 PM
Did you use turbosmooth or meshsmooth modifier? Which options did you check? show a picture of the stack.

scrimski
07-07-2011, 09:38 PM
How many iterations in MS or TS?

Stefanlp
07-09-2011, 07:44 PM
http://pic.mk/?v=untitl1310239912.jpg


i have meshsmooth and 1 iteration, the subdivision method is nurms

scrimski
07-09-2011, 07:55 PM
Increase it to 2.

Stefanlp
07-09-2011, 07:57 PM
i will try but i don't think it will work.

Edit: Nope it just added more polygons but it's still blocky.

Heber
07-11-2011, 01:23 AM
this is literally the first tutorial I ever did as well, seems like yesterday...
anyways I think he is just making better use of the geometry gotta push and pull those points more to get more of an effect from the geometry you have.

Stefanlp
07-11-2011, 01:32 AM
this is literally the first tutorial I ever did as well, seems like yesterday...
anyways I think he is just making better use of the geometry gotta push and pull those points more to get more of an effect from the geometry you have.

but whatever i try his shape is just more round than mine.

Psyk0
07-11-2011, 10:37 PM
Post an unsmoothed .obj and .max file so we can check for errors in the mesh.

Stefanlp
07-12-2011, 12:31 AM
Ok i uploaded them.

max: http://www.mediafire.com/?qa8cu093nnke3jy
obj: http://www.mediafire.com/?ra2aeqz1lxpdr28

Psyk0
07-12-2011, 10:30 PM
Erm okay, i don't think i've ever encountered this in 9 years of 3d max. Unless you broke something when exporting to .obj (i can't open the max file since i'm on 2010) there is something seriously wrong with the mesh. I tried to fix it with STL check, no dice, throw on a reset x form, nope, create a box and attach the mesh to it = fail.

Whatever i do, i cannot change smoothing groups, however the mesh behaves normally when i add a meshsmooth on it. It goes FUBAR when i use turbosmooth on it and finally it turns to pure black when i use NURMS under "subdivision surface"

The only way i could fix the mesh was to subdivide it once and collapse it to editable poly, so that means you loose the control cage (unsubdivided mesh).

Try a simple box and subdivide it, see if the behavior is correct...then i suggest starting over and avoid doing what you did last time. ;)

themightyleaf
07-14-2011, 10:16 AM
In the tutorial they add two extra edge loops before smoothing, which you missed.
They also seem to skip a step of shaping these new edges and the entire model before/after smoothing.

When i took your .obj into Maya the vertex normals were locked at random angles, which caused black spots to appear when smoothed. In Maya you can "unlock" the normals and then smooth to fix this, but i have no idea how you'd do that in 3ds Max.

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