View Full Version : Max to Combustion exporting in rpf format ??

10-26-2003, 08:03 PM
Hi all, I'm trying to get material IDs of my max scene inside Combustion exporting in rpf format. But for some reasons I can't get it right, no luck so far...could someone possibly tell me why ??
It seems really powerful and fast to render it out this way.
THX in advance:) :)

Jack Pfeiffer
10-27-2003, 08:38 AM

1) First step, make SURE you have INCLUDED the proper setups in your 3ds max render menu .... Please view the attached Picture of the 3ds max render menu suggested setups.....

2) Next, open combustion and create workspace chosing "composite" (NOT paint) and be sure to make it 3D...

3) Then, you should be able to import your rpfs and use the operators (effects) lised under "3D Post"....

best O Luck,


10-27-2003, 09:06 AM
Thx a lot M. Pfeiffer, I was making a mistake importing my rpf in paint mode....too bad, but I'm making my first steps in compositing. Anyway it works like a charm now, was able to add nice effects pretty fast, that rpf format rocks.:)
If you have any valuable tips you want to share, go ahead:beer:

What's the weather like in Denmark ??? I miss the time when I was joining skan clans for pub crawls in Norwich, England a few years ago.
You guys are pretty efficient for drinking and compositing ;-))(and scuba-diving apparently...)
(no offense here):)

Jack Pfeiffer
10-27-2003, 09:26 AM

I am glad you figured it out... And don't call me "MR." <please> "Mr. Pfeiffer" is my father ! My name is just Jack.....

FYI: I am a long time Combustion advocate, being an "original" user, a forum host at three different combustion chatroom sites, and author of the first Combustion Book on the market.

I am an american that moved to Denmark five years ago.. And, although (a long time ago) I used to pub-crawl and "drink like a fish" with the best'of'em... I don't do that anymore (I would rather relax and play with my four year old daughter!)
As for the weather... Hmmmm... I moved here from San Francisco, California... so: I traded Calif. SUN for danish RAIN.. HA!(No, I am not crazy...)

As for Combustion... I started using C before it was C (back then it was called paint* and effect*.) I am a C Trainer & Demo Artist and have trained over 180 scandinavian effects artists. Over the years, I have also complied a list of where to find FREE tutorials, FREE tips, and FREE help in learning Combustion.... Plus, for those who want to spend money, a list of stuff you can BUY.

Here's my list:

First and Foremost, PLEASE remeber that there are over 13 FREE Combustion v2 Tutorials that are already available from Discreet.... They are on the DEMO CD-ROM, or you can find them at:


These Lessons cover almost all the "basics" and have PDF files with instructions for each lesson, as well as ZIP files with the media, workspace files, and sample AVI/MOV files. Here is the summary of free lessons:
-Intro: Welcome to combustion (PDF - 301 KB) which includes Detailed descriptions of the lessons, terms, the conventions used in the tutorials, as well as instructions for setting the preferences needed for the tutorials
- Lesson 1: Touring combustion
- Lesson 2: Creating Composites in 2D Space
- Lesson 3: Compositing in 3D Space
- Lesson 4: Using Paint
- Lesson 5: Tracking and Stabilizing
- Lesson 6: Keying
- Lesson 7: Using Garbage Masks
- Lesson 8: Color Correcting
- Lesson 9: Animating Particle Effects PDF
- Lesson 10: Working with Paint Selections
- Lesson 11: Animating Layers in 3D Space
- Lesson 12: Working with Motion Graphics
- Lesson 13: Using Scenes from 3ds max
- Bonus! - Combustion for AE users (four more lessons and tips)

NEW: Discreet has added over 45 Free CWS (Workspaces) with basic effects for free download.. You can open these up and "reverse engineer" to learn them, modify them, copy and paste them in to your own show, etc... Get them at:


NEXT, below is a Rundown of some of the FREE TRAINING websites -- most offer chatrooms, tutorials and tips.

http://www.CreativeCOW.net (Chat room, Free Tutorials, articles, etc.)

http://www.FXGuide.com >> EXTENSIVE Tips & Tricks List, Articles & chatrooms

HERE AT: CGTalk.com (Home of the 3D Festival) this Chatroom!

http://www.VFXTalk.com > News Articles and chatrooms

http://www.3d-palace.com chatroom, and free C tutorials (DIVX videos)

http://www.3d-buzz.com >> VTM (Video Training Magazine) & chatrooms

Here are some nice "User" websites - with Discreet Combustion Tutorials and help, and these are really worth mentioning ... Thanks to all these people! (These are Listed in No particular order... )

http://www.northgatestudios.com/combustion/ (PowerUser/Trainer Lee "Rod" Roderick provides a buncha Tutorials - CWS's but no PDFs...)

(PowerUser/Trainer Ben Munkres provides a geat tutorial working in 3D space, with 10 pg PDF.)

http://www.ddb.co.za/fede/combustion_tutorial/index.htm (particles tutorial)

http://www.discreet-training.com/inset_free.html (PowerUser/Trainer Gary Davis's kool help guides)

Next, if you are an "After Effects" User and considering Combustion, be sure to read the following articles from " Digital Producer Magazine." Entitled "Combustion 2 for After Effects Users," it is a series of three articles designed to help explain things....Nicely written by Kevin Schmitt.
- Part 1: Working with Illustrator files
- Part 2: Working with Photoshop files
- Part 3: A birds-eye view of the C2 interface

Lastly, there is an article in Animation World Magazine entitled "Combustion 2 in Action" written by Scott Jenkins. He reviews Combustion 2 and checks in with a production "in progress" to see how Combustion stacks up against key competitor After Effects.... Although the strory is a year old, it is still a good read....

If you are ready to spend money to learn, Discreet does sell their Courseware, which is what they use when you buy one of their Discreet classes:

Discreet Combustion v2 Courseware-with CD-ROM, used at the Discreet Training Centers in the official Discreet classes worldwide. There are priced at approximately US $ 75.00 and can be ordered through your local Discreet Dealer.
WHAT YOU GET: Discreet combustion v2 Courseware Index- 37 Lessons with CD-ROM: Table of Contents: Part 1 - Using Paint = 1- learning Paint Basics ; 2 - Animation Text ; 3 - Exploring Draw Modes in Text ; 4 - Revealing a Background Image ; 5 - Wire Removal ; 6 - Creating Text Gradients ; 7 - Animating Gradients ; 8 - Combining Selections ; 9 - Animating Selections ; Part 2 - Fundamentals : 10 - Touring Combustion ; 11 - Creating Simple Composites ; 12 - Using Operators in a Composite ; Part 3 - Transforming Layers : 13 -Animating Layers Using Pivot Points ; 14 Keyframing ; Part 4 - Linking and Controlling Layers ; 15 -Cropping and Corner-Pinning ; 16 - Linking Layers Through Parenting ; 17 - Aligning Objects to a Motion Path ; 18 -Linking Layers with Hinging ; Part 5 - Changing Layer Surface Properties ; 19 - Setting Surface Properties ; 20 - Exploring Transfer Modes ; 21 - Displacing a Layer ; Part 6 - Using Channels, Mattes and Masks ; 22 - Using Alpha Channels ; 23 - Creating Channel Effects ; 24 - Using Masks ; Part 7 - Using Null Objects, Lights, and the Camera ; 25 - Animating with a Null Object ; 26 - Moving the Camera ; 27 - Creating Shadows with Lights ; Part 8 - Tracking and Stabilizing : 28 - One-Point Tracking ; 29 - Four-Point Tracking ; 30 - Two-Point Stabilizing ; Part 9 - Keying and Color Correcting : 31 - Using the Discreet Color Corrector ; 32 - Using the Discreet Keyer ; Part 10 Nesting Composites : 33 - Basic Nesting ; 34 - Creating a Motion Blur ; 35 - Importing Workspaces ; Part 11 - Additional Lessons: 36 - Working with Rich Pixel Renderings ; 37 - Creating Particles Effects

FOR SALE: Other "After Market" books and training materials....

1) Released in Late JULY 2003 is the Hot New "Advanced Combustion training DVDs " -- I have reviewed these and they are REALLY GOOD - and, if you want good advanced training, are well worth the investment. In the four DVD set there are 6 1/2 hours of material -- Three Combustion power users/trainers, Lee "Rod" Roderick, Gary M. Davis, and Ken LaRue have teamed up to teach, advise and guide you thru 15 lessons of "real world projects." This is the first volume in a planned series.. Check them out at http://www.thestreetproductions.com

2) There is a very good (and long) Cv2 DVD/VHS Video set with 14 hours of training and tutorials. It is the most expensive (and extensive) training on the market, but that's what you get over 14 hours (!) This is also taught by Ken LaRue (see above) and is available from Technical Animations (http://www.techanim.com)

3) Coming up next year is a NEW Cv3 Book: Gary Davis, a well know Combustion Demo Artist, has announced he will have a Combustion v3 book published under the Focal Press label scheduled for release in the first quarter next year.

4) There is still a Cv2 book listed at www.amazon.com called “combustion ground rules” by Todd Petersen. This book has been delayed in ther past and it is unclear if and when it will ship.. Go to amazon.com to read more.

5) I have written a Combustion training book, which is the first third party training book on the market. It's called "Combustion v2: The On-line WebWarriors Guide" You can read about it here: http://www.mci.dk/combustion or check the review at www.CreativeCow.net (book reviews.) However, despite the success of the book, with the Discreet Announcement of the release of Cv3, I have decided to slowly discontinue publishing it. I have but a few copis left for sale, and I have decided to give a few copies away: I have donated copies to various websites and they will be given away as prizes. If you want to win one this month, visit or write either www.3d-palace.com or www.creativecow.net.

6) There is an older 90-minute Combustion v1 VHS Training Tape with advanced subject material available at http://www.videoblurb.com. It has received excellent reviews and covers color correction, keying and more.

Anyway, there's FREE TRAINING and stuff you can BUY...

Whatever you do . . . . Keep Combustin' !


10-27-2003, 09:45 AM
Hey Jack !
whouuu that was exhaustive, thx for the list, as soon as i have time, I'll take a decent look at it.
There's so much to learn and so little time.
My girlfriend is a scuba-diver too, with 200 dives logged, even one with sharks and a few others beneath ice...scarry.
I'm in reenactment myself, wearing silly costumes with big swords, a good add-on when you scratch your eyes on a computer all day long :-))
Thx a lot again.

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