Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 02:53 PM
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Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 03:15 PM
I am planning on using the basic saucer sprouting out of the planet and flying away. The plant will be the typical barren landscape with a reddish atmosphere. The twist will be the geometric pattern on the ships which are inspired by a optical illusion that creates movement.
Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 03:37 PM
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I am planning on using the basic saucer sprouting out of the planet and flying away. The plant will be the typical barren landscape with a reddish atmosphere. The twist will be the geometric pattern on the ships which are inspired by a optical illusion that creates movement.
I am planning on using the basic saucer sprouting out of the planet and flying away. The plant will be the typical barren landscape with a reddish atmosphere. The twist will be the geometric pattern on the ships which are inspired by a optical illusion that creates movement.
Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 04:41 PM
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I’m just jumping in head first. I’m Using LW7 and am going to try not to use any post photoshop work on the final image - going for 3D final render only. Here’s a layout of my composition using the portrait (vertical) format suggested in the instructions. The model is a simple sphere, cloned several times in Layout.
I’m just jumping in head first. I’m Using LW7 and am going to try not to use any post photoshop work on the final image - going for 3D final render only. Here’s a layout of my composition using the portrait (vertical) format suggested in the instructions. The model is a simple sphere, cloned several times in Layout.
Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 05:29 PM
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I had to see if the pattern produced the desired effect. Texture on ship is a Planar Image Map (PNG done in Photoshop) on theY axis. I had to adjust a couple of ships but I think the spinning movement I was hoping for is coming through.
I had to see if the pattern produced the desired effect. Texture on ship is a Planar Image Map (PNG done in Photoshop) on theY axis. I had to adjust a couple of ships but I think the spinning movement I was hoping for is coming through.
ivanisavich
10-24-2003, 05:54 PM
So how exactly is this relative to the theme? ;)
zbgump
10-24-2003, 06:10 PM
Keep in mind that "flying saucer" are a very cliche image of an alien. It doesn't meen that it can't work, you might want to think about it as your designing you image.
People often think of flying saucers in old black and white movies, where one can see strings dangleing them about in front of the camera.
You might want to look some images of "old fashioned" flying saucers and somehow reflect those in your piece.
As far as the colors go right now, I feel they clash a bit. I realize this is an early version.
I sort of see what you mean by the optical illusion, but I'm not sure it will produce motion in the way that you want. If you don't want to do any post work, you may have to key a little spin animation on those discs with motion blur to make them appear to be spinning.
Or perhaps try some other patterns to create the illusion.
Keep in mind, these are just my first impressions, if you have something in mind you want to work towards then go for it!
I'll be back to check this out again!
People often think of flying saucers in old black and white movies, where one can see strings dangleing them about in front of the camera.
You might want to look some images of "old fashioned" flying saucers and somehow reflect those in your piece.
As far as the colors go right now, I feel they clash a bit. I realize this is an early version.
I sort of see what you mean by the optical illusion, but I'm not sure it will produce motion in the way that you want. If you don't want to do any post work, you may have to key a little spin animation on those discs with motion blur to make them appear to be spinning.
Or perhaps try some other patterns to create the illusion.
Keep in mind, these are just my first impressions, if you have something in mind you want to work towards then go for it!
I'll be back to check this out again!
Floyd Kurio
10-24-2003, 09:06 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067025966_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067025966_large.jpg)
I added a basic procedural based texture to the ground surface for a color reference starting point. Skytracer 2 and a gradient backdrop with a combination of linear and ground fog used create atmosphere.
I added a basic procedural based texture to the ground surface for a color reference starting point. Skytracer 2 and a gradient backdrop with a combination of linear and ground fog used create atmosphere.
Floyd Kurio
10-27-2003, 01:27 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067261232_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067261232_large.jpg)
Added marble procedural texture to ground surface. Gives a lava appearance which visually plays off the orange in the clouds.
Added marble procedural texture to ground surface. Gives a lava appearance which visually plays off the orange in the clouds.
Floyd Kurio
10-28-2003, 06:36 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067366206_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067366206_large.jpg)
I took zbgump’s suggestion (Thanks) and tinkered with the saucers shape, changed a few saucer locations in the composition to add interest. Established new shape ready to start work on ground surface craters
I took zbgump’s suggestion (Thanks) and tinkered with the saucers shape, changed a few saucer locations in the composition to add interest. Established new shape ready to start work on ground surface craters
KOryH
10-28-2003, 06:48 PM
I like the concept of sprouting saucers, but frankly I don't get the op art thing. It makes it look a little 1982, the only thing missing in a shiny reflective sphere.
Seriously, it is going to hard to pull off.
Maybe you could make it really organic.
A twist on the flying saucer thing. The shapes can be typical sci-fi, but then the context and the surfacing along with tertiary details can be your own twist.
Just a suggestion.
I look forward to seeing what becomes of this.
Seriously, it is going to hard to pull off.
Maybe you could make it really organic.
A twist on the flying saucer thing. The shapes can be typical sci-fi, but then the context and the surfacing along with tertiary details can be your own twist.
Just a suggestion.
I look forward to seeing what becomes of this.
Xtronik
10-28-2003, 06:56 PM
Nice concept....
I ll be checking for your progress..
I ll be checking for your progress..
Floyd Kurio
10-28-2003, 08:31 PM
Koryh, both you and zbgump have shown reservations about the pattern, I still see the illusion of movement although granted I am noticing it more in my large format image. My original concept includes the pattern, although I am not totally committed to it and do have a couple backup plans to explore. I intend to finish the ground surface and evaluate the pattern idea at that time. Thanks for the objective critique will keep it in mind
NoJuice
10-28-2003, 10:05 PM
Your idea seems like it may work, if you work hard at it. Right now it does look like you are running into some cliches but one thing I've noticed with your pattern on the saucers are that they are coming close to working as an optical illusion, I highly suggest that you add some kind of "imaginary" line that makes the eye follow from the center of one saucer to another.
When I look at the center of one saucer, and move to another, it almost fakes movement with the pattern you have.
When I look at the center of one saucer, and move to another, it almost fakes movement with the pattern you have.
Floyd Kurio
10-30-2003, 06:38 PM
http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067539102_medium.jpg (http://www.cgnetworks.com/challenge/entries/3/803/803_1067539102_large.jpg)
Basic crater shape and texture on ground surface
Basic crater shape and texture on ground surface
Floyd Kurio
11-03-2003, 01:03 PM
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With further evaluation on the saucer pattern, I decided to maintain it as a texture to reflect the print in the crater and discontinue the color. The concept of the illusion I was hoping for did not adequately present itself. The pattern however, is both natural and mechanical in nature, and the organic feel pushes the envelope on the life form restriction. I am trying a monotone basic color playing with the texture mapping in the luminosity, specularly, and reflection.
With further evaluation on the saucer pattern, I decided to maintain it as a texture to reflect the print in the crater and discontinue the color. The concept of the illusion I was hoping for did not adequately present itself. The pattern however, is both natural and mechanical in nature, and the organic feel pushes the envelope on the life form restriction. I am trying a monotone basic color playing with the texture mapping in the luminosity, specularly, and reflection.
kjc
11-03-2003, 06:05 PM
OK I'm totally getting the optical illusion on the saucer to the extreme right when you had the purple and green. It's working if you look at the one to the left or extreme left. The only other one that's working for me is the aforementioned *one to the left* when you look at the one to the bottom right.
The colours are what make it work too right..? It's a pity cause that was kinda cool but the colour was insane :eek: . I really like the ground in the latest one. Maybe you could break up the edges of the craters a bit.??
Nice work.
The colours are what make it work too right..? It's a pity cause that was kinda cool but the colour was insane :eek: . I really like the ground in the latest one. Maybe you could break up the edges of the craters a bit.??
Nice work.
Floyd Kurio
11-03-2003, 06:16 PM
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Added green spotlight to each saucer.
Added green spotlight to each saucer.
Floyd Kurio
11-03-2003, 07:19 PM
Kjc, thanks for the feedback. Your are correct in that the color did create the illusion, what little there was, and it was only noticeable on the more vertical saucers when the object itself was not the viewers main focus. You are also correct about the craters edges, I plan on adding a broken edge as well as small rocks and ground debris. I am also torn about the color, maybe I’ll test a few more combinations of the color combination and textures.
Designer2
11-04-2003, 01:37 AM
The last one start to give better results, while working with this and adding more and more, I only suggest adding more visual effects like glow, Volumes, Special lights or so, anyway as i said you are working i don't want to say anything you are going to do... :p
:thumbsup: keep on,
:thumbsup: keep on,
Novakog
11-04-2003, 03:05 AM
Ya, I'm not quite sure whether this will work with the "no life form" thing AND the "robotics not the focus".
That said, if you think it's acceptable, I'm liking it quite a bit now (I didn't like the colorful saucers, but the reflective ones are pretty good).
That said, if you think it's acceptable, I'm liking it quite a bit now (I didn't like the colorful saucers, but the reflective ones are pretty good).
Floyd Kurio
11-04-2003, 02:04 PM
Thanks for the comments.
Designer2, I am planning more effects - smoke or steam coming out of the center of each crater and possibly another narrow spot light projecting from that same point. I am also considering outer glow on each object, I’ll have to wait on that one until I see how much light is generated in the composition.
Novakog, I am at a cross road with this “life form issue”. My self question is, which more constitutes life - an organic plant or animal form or a geometric shape. As my image stands now I consider it with no life forms, only dirt and geometric shapes. Playing on our societies implication of an alien spaceship being a “Flying Saucer”. The thought of adding tentacles to the bottom center like a jellyfish or rose bush type thorns on the top would separate the object from the cultural icon, however, there is the plant/ animal issue.l
Designer2, I am planning more effects - smoke or steam coming out of the center of each crater and possibly another narrow spot light projecting from that same point. I am also considering outer glow on each object, I’ll have to wait on that one until I see how much light is generated in the composition.
Novakog, I am at a cross road with this “life form issue”. My self question is, which more constitutes life - an organic plant or animal form or a geometric shape. As my image stands now I consider it with no life forms, only dirt and geometric shapes. Playing on our societies implication of an alien spaceship being a “Flying Saucer”. The thought of adding tentacles to the bottom center like a jellyfish or rose bush type thorns on the top would separate the object from the cultural icon, however, there is the plant/ animal issue.l
Novakog
11-05-2003, 06:11 AM
Yes, indeed. One thing I think to think about though is that they MIGHT (not necessarily did) mean that there is no sentient life, because they used the word unpopulated, and it seems that everybody is doing plants (not animals) and noone is saying much about it. It is true that a flying saucer could be neither organic nor robotic, but like you said, it's playing with the idea a little.
Now, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I think that they probably will accept your entry, I certainly believe they should, but it's always good to be sure, eh?
Now, I'm just playing devil's advocate. I think that they probably will accept your entry, I certainly believe they should, but it's always good to be sure, eh?
Floyd Kurio
11-07-2003, 01:16 PM
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Added steam exiting from center of craters. Included transparent texture into pattern on disk.
Added steam exiting from center of craters. Included transparent texture into pattern on disk.
Floyd Kurio
11-14-2003, 01:58 PM
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Not much time to play with it this week, Just tweaked with the lighting, steam,and ground texture.
Not much time to play with it this week, Just tweaked with the lighting, steam,and ground texture.
BClaw
12-03-2003, 07:49 AM
Wow! I love the way your image is shaping up! Good luck!
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