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Hey guys,
I'm pretty new here so first I'll introduce myself real quick. I'm a college student in Seattle and I'm starting up a portraiture business where I'll be selling original charcoal drawings (from photos) over the internet.
I've never had my charcoal work critiqued (I'm actually a biology student and I've only been doing these for a couple years). Since I plan to start selling my work I'd like to know if any of you notice technical problems or have comments for how I could improve.
Please feel free to be as nit-picky as you want. Go ahead and tear 'em apart.....
Here's the most recent one I've done
http://www.sarnat.net/drawings/irwin.jpg
Original photo:
http://students.washington.edu/asarnat/files/irwin.jpg
This is the one that I'm going to feature the most for my business:
http://www.sarnat.net/drawings/einst.jpg
I don't want to clutter the page with more images but if you want to see others I've done you can visit my website. (Drawings / People)
Thanks!
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fellah
06-05-2002, 11:03 PM
I'm sorry, I can't crit these images... they are to good! :)
some of the best portraits I've seen in my entire life, man.. you sure got talent.
and I'm sure your future business will run just fine, good work!
illustr8rX
06-06-2002, 12:45 AM
very nice work. you might want to check the values used on Irwins' eye socket- just medial to HIS left eye-(our right side) it may help 'seat' his eye better. Also, make sure his eyes are looking at the same point in space.
In the photo he seems to be, and even if he isn't; sometimes it's better to be a little inaccurate than to show your subjects' eye 'drift'. Great stuff though!
your shading work is top notch. thanks for sharing. -don
haha, thanks, fellah. You're too kind :)
illustr8rX, thanks for your input. Eyes have always been hard for me to draw correctly. What kind of charcoal do you use? Also, what kind of paper? I know this is really unconventional, but I actually used the back of poster board to do these drawings on. Only because the texture seemed perfect for getting more detail. I wish I had the time to take art classes here but it wouldn't be possible with all the other stuff I'm doing with my major.
lowlight
06-07-2002, 05:36 PM
Good Work, Keep it up:thumbsup:
Okay, now for the "light" critique. There isn't much to say other than what was pointed out earlier with the eyes. Apparently upon closer inspection, you seemed to have also reproduced the redeye caused by the flash camera in the photograph, was that intentional; true photorealism, I suppose:shrug: ? In any case, I'd suggest checking out this man's work, he pretty much already does what you plan on doing right now as far as working from photographs:
http://www.eyewoo.com
Albeit, he does it digitally, you see that he prefers to add a little more artisitc ambiance to his work. If all your after is true photorealism, right down to the redeye;), then I can't say much other than make sure your client atually "wants" that much detail.
Good luck to you.
BTW, the type of material/charcoal really doesn't matter in the end...it's all in how you use it to your advatage to achieve the intended result.
aazimkhan
06-10-2002, 04:05 AM
well...i am not a big artist or anything....those drawings up there are just too good for me...but since u asked crtics all i have to say is....in einstiens drawing i think his right eye is different than his other...what i mean i it looks like his each eye is looking diffrnt directions.....:shrug:
:rolleyes:
jugeras
06-10-2002, 06:36 AM
Looking good. My girlfriend is also an artist. She loves to draw with charcoal as well as chalk. So far, I'd give you the same advice I give her, be careful with the smudges. Focus more on the charcoal stroke pressure... I think. Anyway, keep up the great work.
wireFrame
06-10-2002, 01:38 PM
All your artworks looked great!
My comment is on the eyes of the man in the first pic. If your intention os to realistically copy a photo, you missed something there.
Einstein looks very good. 5 stars!
paranoy2k
06-10-2002, 01:51 PM
Theses draws are perfect...
It almost like if you took the images and dropped the saturation values!
Just can't beleive it's hand painted! wow!
How many hours can you put in a draw like these one?
sophist
06-10-2002, 05:23 PM
First, It looks good.
Maybe if you worked a bit more on his wrinkles you could achieve a higher step on realisim. He's got more wrinkles there, specially in his neck.
Well, anyway, it's a nice job!:applause:
Thanks for everybody's comments. I appreciate your critiques coming from fellow artists. I really wish I had the time to take drawing classes or something. Surely there's lots of training that I'm missing that may help me to avoid these problems.
I may have the original photo that I did Einstein from. Maybe I can dig it up later on and post it :) You've probably seen it before anyway. It was used on the cover of Time Magazine when he was voted "Man of the Century" in 2000 (but I drew it in '99 ;) )
AroundTheFur
06-11-2002, 02:45 PM
Well they are very good drawings, however... like jugeras said, because you are doing a tonal drawing, you must be sure the values are correct. In your drawing, the shirt and skin are the same value, or very close. In the photo they are clearly different. What i think jugeras is saying is that if you stick with a line drawing these things dont have to be questioned. I hope this helps.
Well I said I'd post the original photo of Einstein... so here ya go:
http://students.washington.edu/asarnat/files/einstor.jpg
Sorry about the cropping. The original print was too big for my scanner :)
paranoy2k, to answer your question, Einstein took me a total of 20 hrs to complete but I spread it over a month's time. The other pic took about 12 hrs to do over a 3 day period.
l_farley13_l
06-14-2002, 05:32 AM
Trully extrodinary tone control and deatailing, reproduced exactly. If you want to imporrve anything, I think a little bit of spontinaity might be used just around some features, controled and refined. Costomers love some personla touch or style added to the work they buy.
Not much but you can try this from Sijun's forums, paritally written by Frank9z, HawkOne, and notoriously spooge demon. It seems general enough for me to include some of it - if not I'll remove it imeadiately.
see you,
Farley13
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