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TedNindo
02-24-2011, 01:59 PM
Hey everybody,

this thread is for everybody to join in and do some painting exercise to hone their skills and get better at what we love to do.

This week we started with breaking down images into their different values.
The idea behind it is to study the values of different colors with the goal to get better control over values. Since right values are the basis of every form there is this seems as one of the fundamentals.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-1y.png

TedNindo
02-24-2011, 04:19 PM
Ok the picture above is the one from monday.

This here is the one from thuesday:

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-20.png

TedNindo
02-24-2011, 04:24 PM
So if you want to join in here are the images for yesterday and today.

Feel free to post your own attemps as well as your comments and critics.

Yesterday:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-22.png


Today:
http://www.topofart.com/images/artists/John_Singer_Sargent/paintings/sargent010.jpg

TedNindo
02-24-2011, 04:45 PM
Ok, for this image I tried to keep it rather simple. Instead of going for details I tried to hit divide the values into categries and name them before I start with the exercise. Thats what the numbers are for.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-24.png

TedNindo
02-24-2011, 06:54 PM
Ok with this one I am up to date again.
Putting the numbers in seemd easy first but I recognized that I was wrong in a lot of places while I painted in the values.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-25.png

Ismilealot
02-24-2011, 10:53 PM
Hey great! Good that we started this! I'm sure we will get a lot out of those excersises over time.
For todays practice I used 100% opacity and a hard round brush.

Cheers
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_21022011.jpg
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_22022011.jpg
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_23022011.jpg
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_24022011.jpg
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_21022011.jpg

TedNindo
02-25-2011, 11:28 AM
Ok for the last day of the week we try to use what we've learnd the 4 previous days.
The idea is to do a piece with just values. No colors.

To keep it simple you might try to use just as few values.
The topic for this friday is:

Narrow Escape

Benem185
02-28-2011, 09:04 AM
wow! finally i was able to sign in too! now i have to start work, i will try to participate soon.
best:
ben

Ismilealot
02-28-2011, 09:35 AM
Hey this week we're trying to do value studies from photographs.
this is the first photo for this week:
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/37974843.jpg

TedNindo
02-28-2011, 02:27 PM
here is my picture for today. I didn't went to much into the detail. But I think the main values are there.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-28.png

Benem185
02-28-2011, 03:48 PM
i hope it is okay that i went into colors allready, if you feel uncomfortable with that i can remove the picture:

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7449/mountains.jpg (http://img827.imageshack.us/i/mountains.jpg/)

Ismilealot
02-28-2011, 06:39 PM
here's mine. i need to practice more to use the lasso tool.
pretty sloppy.
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_28022011.jpg

TedNindo
03-01-2011, 09:37 AM
here is the picture for today:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-29.png

TedNindo
03-01-2011, 01:45 PM
here is my attempt for todays photo. the values were hard to read.
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-2a.png

Ismilealot
03-01-2011, 03:56 PM
@tednindo
Nice Study mate. Good improvement. I think you can push the value in the foreground. I think the shadow of the plants closes to the viewer could be more darker. Darker then the shadows of the mountain to the right i would say.
Keep in mind the further the object the less contrast the objects have.

I tried a quick value sketch from imagination for the theme on friday.
looking forward for some critique as well.
Cheers.

http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_narrowescape.jpg

antelatis
03-01-2011, 08:14 PM
double-post

antelatis
03-01-2011, 09:44 PM
Im finally able to post my pictures...here they are:


Wednesday:
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3328/001dli.jpg

Thursday:
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/1026/002ydp.jpg

Friday:
http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/1500/003ilv.jpg

Monday:
http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/8673/004w.jpg

And here is the one for today (tuesday):

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5199/005qtx.jpg

TedNindo
03-02-2011, 09:23 AM
hey Ismilealot,

thank you for your feedback. You are right, the shadowparts of the elements in the fore and backgound should have a different value.

I really like your work from the last week but I think you could use some more contrast here and there. For example the image with the old guy could use some blacks in the clothing.

In your mountain image I think the foreground mountain lacks some area of higher values. Since it is in the foreground it has higher contrast and you could have used that fact to give it a better readable form.

I like your narrow escape image. Comming up with something from mind is allways more difficult. I think the expressions works and the lighting works well althought the lips seem a bit to high in value.

hey antelatis

good to see your stuff here, finaly ;-)
I think your values are to light in genereal maybe this is because you start with a white canvas. You might want to give your canvas a midgray to start from to have a neutral starting point.

I like your mouse image a lot. I think the gestik of the mouse works well. Altough I feel that you could give the image a lot more impact if you would choose a much more interessting angle to look at that scenario.

antelatis
03-02-2011, 09:31 AM
Yeah, that's a good idea to start with a grey canvas, i will do that next time.

Ismilealot
03-02-2011, 10:14 AM
Hey Guys,

Good stuff keep it rollin!
@tednindo, here's some critique for yesterdays picture
same critique as you gave me. keep the highes contrast for the foreground.
the shadow of the bushes closest to the viewer for example could be much darker.
the heaven close to the horizon could be much more brighter. as well.
same goes for my stuff to. I think it's good to try to push the contrast in those exercises.

@antelatis
Good to see that you're trying. But try to get the values as good as possible. Start with a middle tone
and then block in the darkest dark and work you way up to the light. Try to stay in the dark and middle tones as long as possible. and kill the white canvas at the beginning. so it's easier to judge the values right. don't focus on the details to much. just try to get the lightning right.
hope that helps.

here's my values sketch of yesterdays picture:
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_01032011.jpg

TedNindo
03-02-2011, 10:16 AM
man! The depth works really well in this one. Very good work.

Ismilealot
03-02-2011, 10:20 AM
here's todays picture
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuepractice_02032011.jpg

TedNindo
03-02-2011, 12:41 PM
man, big time problems for me with this one:

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-2c.png

TedNindo
03-02-2011, 06:07 PM
I didn't like my attempt from this noon at all so I decided to start it all over again and tried to approch it in a more structured way.

http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6uh9-4p.jpg

antelatis
03-02-2011, 08:55 PM
Here is my crappy pic for today :D

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4933/006uz.jpg

TedNindo
03-03-2011, 11:25 AM
Here is the picture for today:
http://www.bilder-hochladen.net/files/big/6w2x-2d.png

@antelatis: I think you should try do differntiat those values clearer.

Ismilealot
03-03-2011, 07:48 PM
@TedNindo
hey i think your first try worked bett from the post 23 than the one you did afterwards.
The depth works better because you have more contrast in the earlier version.
In the 2nd version you did the values are very close to each other espacially with the foreground and
the mountains in the middle. Maybe it helps if you dont try too hard to get the values right.
but get the relationship right in you painting. Maybe it's good if you start just with 4 values at the beginning. Try to keep the darkest dark for the objects that are closest to you

antelatis.
@same critiqe as i did for tednindo. your values a to close to each other.
when you think you're done with your study turn the photograph into grey scale and check it with you study and try to fix the problems.

I couldn't finish the one from yesterday
but here are both studies from yesterday and today.
I didn't like the picture to much from todays picture. Because everything seemed to be on one plane of the values. The Heave was to bright you would never see it so white in nature I think. I decided to make it darker and only keep the focus on the foreground. I still need to practice this a lot.
But have a look i think i did some improvement since the beginning.
Looking forward for your critique

cheers
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_02032011.jpg

http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_03032011.jpg

antelatis
03-04-2011, 08:40 AM
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9400/007zgo.jpg

Ismilealot
03-04-2011, 09:21 PM
hey here's todays topic. take the weekend and try to do a little nice value sketch.
The Topic is: beneath the dark forest.
Good luck!

Ismilealot
03-06-2011, 11:23 PM
so here's my little sketch for fridays topic.
took me around 1 hour:
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketch_beneathdarkforest.jpg

Ismilealot
03-07-2011, 04:03 PM
This week we're just trying to do some sketches from imagination. To practice our values.
Todays topic is " Moon"
Take at least 30 min for you sketch.
Have fun!

Ismilealot
03-07-2011, 10:21 PM
here's my contribution to MOON:
Had no really creative idea this is what came out.
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_07032011.jpg

DarioCoelho
03-07-2011, 10:30 PM
Hi folks,

I decided to join my colleagues from Bigpoint and work on my skills. I did a value study before, which I'm adding to this post, but first off, heres my "Moon" contribution.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1875078/Forums/moon.jpg

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1875078/Forums/study6.jpg

Hope you dig - any feedback / crit is mucho appreciatio!

antelatis
03-07-2011, 11:22 PM
Here is my picture for friday AND monday, both in one..."moon" and "beneath the dark forest" ;)

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/4605/008ys.jpg

antelatis
03-08-2011, 12:46 PM
Topic for toady (tuesday) is: "Zombie Rabbits" :D
Have fun...

antelatis
03-08-2011, 09:51 PM
Here they are...my zombie rabbits!

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7536/009qp.jpg

Ismilealot
03-09-2011, 10:53 PM
@antelatis
Wonderful im laughing my ass off.

Before this day end here's todays topic:
"BACK TO CHINA!" Have fun looking forward to see you sketches

By the way here's mine for yesterdays topic:
Good night

http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_09032011.jpg

Ismilealot
03-09-2011, 11:13 PM
And here's a quick sketch for today:
http://www.ismilealot.com/practice/valuesketches_08032011.jpg

zebruin
03-10-2011, 03:58 PM
First Post! :buttrock:

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/6123/zbunny.jpg

zebruin
03-11-2011, 10:20 AM
@smilealot:

Nice Pic!
But i think, the man in the middle is too strong (from the values). Just a little bit lighter...

zebruin
03-11-2011, 10:22 AM
The next topic:

WATCHTOWER
:buttrock:

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