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Leonard
10-20-2003, 10:45 PM
Hi all,

CGNetworks and Alienware has teamed up to bring you the Alienware CG challenge.

Create a static 3D-rendered image depicting an alien location for a chance to win the ultimate MJ-12 DCC workstation featuring an Intel Dual Xeon 3.2 processor, a NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000 graphics card, copies of EXPOSE' 1 and other swag!

Full details and instructions are here:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/alienware/

Proudly sponsored by:
Alienware
CGNetworks
NVIDIA
Intel

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Notices:

-- All entries to be considered are to be uploaded via the entry system at the above URL. Do not post images that you want judged on CGTalk directly - if it's not in our system, we won't judge it!

-- You must meet all the Work in Progress (WIP) requirements outlined in the rules and submit all the deliverables.

leigh
10-20-2003, 11:24 PM
I have a feeling this is going to be our greatest challenge yet!

Good luck to everyone - you have a massive incentive to do something awesome, so get to work!

eYadNesS
10-20-2003, 11:29 PM
Wow :beer:, I think it will be a very great challenge :)

Clanger
10-20-2003, 11:32 PM
Yikes!!!!!!!

3 months as well, even I might finish in time.

innervision961
10-21-2003, 12:25 AM
Well i'm game! Even though my work pales in comparison to others in this community I might as well try! I think everyone should give it a go, the worst that could happen is you might have a little fun and learn something to boot, and the best case scenario is you win a sweet workstation :drool:

ilasolomon
10-21-2003, 02:33 AM
Can't wait, It's 5:00 AM here, but I'm waiting for the contest main page to be uploaded. YAAAAWN! ... can't go to bed!

Agent D
10-21-2003, 03:30 AM
Beautiful. :D

I am DEFINITELY doing this one. Best prizes so far, one of the coolest challenges so far. Good luck, everyone!

daraand
10-21-2003, 03:30 AM
I'm doing this too! Yes because of the prize:P but mainly because i've never entered one:) *bookmarks like crazy

erilaz
10-21-2003, 03:32 AM
The funny thing about this is we'll finally know everyone's names!:p

JDex
10-21-2003, 03:34 AM
3 months... yippie!!!... I am in baby, yeah!!!

erilaz
10-21-2003, 03:34 AM
It sucks that the mods can't enter though... there would have been some amazing entries there.:hmm:

Tadus
10-21-2003, 03:35 AM
:D this will be fun, i've never entered my ork into a contest before!

:)

chadlychoo
10-21-2003, 03:36 AM
Holy crap this rules!
3 months...I might even finish this one!
:beer:

Annuostivix
10-21-2003, 03:37 AM
I would love to work on this, but I only have an educational version of the program I am actually pretty decent with. It think maybe winning something with it might be illegal, hehe. Not that I am sure I would win.* I loved the description of the theme, it sounds like it will be really cool to see peoples projects. Good luck everybody

T4D
10-21-2003, 03:40 AM
cool should be fun, they'll be some great art on show :applause:

element412
10-21-2003, 03:41 AM
oooh yeeah. i'm so much in....
this machine makes me dream. can you imagine?? 3gb of ram?:drool:

that challenge is gonna be great!!!



element

ceql
10-21-2003, 03:43 AM
Wow, and good timing too, end of semester holiday break commin' up soon :D

Annuostivix
10-21-2003, 03:45 AM
my ram is only at 512, and my videocard isnt even compatible with maya. Having a computer like that would feel like owning a small metallic/plastic/sylicone god. I'm sure there is rubber and other stuff in there somewhere too. I bet I could render like five times faster with it.

daraand
10-21-2003, 03:48 AM
spread the word. This is goign to be interesting



I am searching for ideas:) Post osme inspiration if you want in here. I'll throw a little bit in:

Shpongle and Infested Mushroom music (goa trance) for that wierd whacky Xen feel (Half-Life) :D

elnady
10-21-2003, 03:53 AM
Wow i'm in too
:surprised

JDex
10-21-2003, 04:07 AM
I don't think that entering a contest consitutes commercial use, it is personal use afaik.

Kirt
10-21-2003, 04:14 AM
hmmmm ... mods not allowed to enter and no 2D entries ...

What are we supposed to do for the next 3 months? :shrug:

F. Hultqvist
10-21-2003, 04:19 AM
I was just wondering, can the setting include the actual One Man Screaming Out? Or is this an environment challenge only?

Just wanted to be sure.

Awesome contest. It's going to be alot of work:surprised

Agent D
10-21-2003, 04:25 AM
Originally posted by Kirt
hmmmm ... mods not allowed to enter and no 2D entries ...

What are we supposed to do for the next 3 months? :shrug:
Give us amazingly helpful and insightful critiques? Start a betting pool on who wins? ;)

Originally posted by F. Hultqvist
I was just wondering, can the setting include the actual One Man Screaming Out? Or is this an environment challenge only?
I was under the impression that the image was supposed to be what the viewer sees, but I'm not completely sure.

daraand
10-21-2003, 04:26 AM
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96046

:p might as well find out:)

JDex
10-21-2003, 04:27 AM
Hey Kirt, cant you mods just post a new topic in the challenge subforum and participate without going through the actual entry process.

Maybe give it a subject of:

Unofficial Mod Entry: (Real Name)

dunno, if Leo is cool with that or not, but I am sure that we would all love for you ladies and gents to participate and inspire as usual.

Lee3dee
10-21-2003, 04:30 AM
this is screaming me to join in. I love creating alien 3d worlds. Looking forward to seeing everyones progress and completion. Good luck everyone.

ps. can the runners up also get those sweet alienware cases as bonus prizes :) lol

Kricket
10-21-2003, 04:45 AM
the poor animators.. this is what we get for having such a low turnout last challenge! :scream:

Ah well, not much of a environmental modeler but I'm gonna give this my best.

Lordrych
10-21-2003, 04:50 AM
Yo Definately count me in!!! I can't wait!

Rych

T4D
10-21-2003, 04:54 AM
the poor animators.. this is what we get for having such a low turnout last challenge!

yeah abit of a same but I've entered :beer:

Annuostivix
10-21-2003, 05:25 AM
oh, if it's not commercial then I think I will consider this.

Keiyentai
10-21-2003, 05:41 AM
Hell ya. THe things I could do with that system :D:D:D

Annuostivix
10-21-2003, 05:48 AM
you could probably run a small country with it :thumbsup:

mixed
10-21-2003, 05:51 AM
too bad i suck :(

phoenix
10-21-2003, 06:00 AM
count me in as well....ooooo i am so excited.............:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

ShadowM8
10-21-2003, 06:03 AM
I may as well try my hand at it too!

Tonyyak
10-21-2003, 06:09 AM
Ok so robots are OK as long as they are not humonoid,and as long as they are not the center piece? I think I got that part.What about collaborations,are they cool?
Lots of things running through my mind,got to go clear them up.Cool challenge,if only I can get to one idea.;) :beer:

erazal
10-21-2003, 06:10 AM
Good Lord, i'm SO in...

gonna test out my modelling skillz

onscreen
10-21-2003, 06:18 AM
Lets roll in some good enviroment work!!!

GOOD LUCK GUYS!
:wip:

Meko
10-21-2003, 06:19 AM
ive been to afraid of posting anything on cgtalk before but with this incentive....................... all i gotta say is daaaaamn

=)

Phalanx3D
10-21-2003, 06:26 AM
ugh still image. What about the animators?

Leigh I didn't know you admined here. Cool.

-p3d

zbgump
10-21-2003, 06:42 AM
Hmm, environmental modeling... I was hoping to work on another character, but this contest will force me to do something I'm afraid to try.

I've been teaching this 3d stuff to myself, so I've basically have just done straight forward modeling and texturing, and I see that we have to turn in some post production/ compositing work; hopefully I will learn alot with this challenge.

Good luck all! :beer:

ostov
10-21-2003, 06:45 AM
So the image we are going to make is:
"Create a static 3D-rendered image" ?

jason-slab
10-21-2003, 06:49 AM
awsome challange!!!

can't wait to see some of the entries
good luck to everyone!!

|jason

Ultragames
10-21-2003, 07:02 AM
Hot damn!!! I am way hyped about this one. Im no where near the level needed to do this, but i will follow intently. Good luck all.

ionanism
10-21-2003, 07:10 AM
Stage 1: This is going to be great!
I am defiantly looking forward to the changes, and to the next challenge.


Stage 2: Crap…this is not so great…
Is this the only new challenge?
Is there still going to be the other challenges to enter: game, 2d, Animation ext...
I hope this is not the only one…


Stage 3: It won’t be easy but I can do it.
I am defiantly looking forward to getting to work on something again, but I’m too excited by this one, the prize sure is kick ass, it’s not like I have a chance to win so I honestly don’t care what the prize is, but I will see what I come up with if this is the only challenge that we are going to have.

Not much of an environment guy… which I guess is more of a reason why I should enter this one… need to exercise different muscles, I am more of a low poly guy.


I do have a few Questions:
Including those mentioned in "Stage 2"
You say it has to be 3d, but can we do some touch up work in a 2d app?
Or should it be pure 3d rendering not touching up in 2d?
How about some 2d compositing is that ok…or not?

Dhin
10-21-2003, 07:28 AM
Good luck all, (YOU'LL NEED IT NOW THAT I'VE ENTERED!!! HAHAHAHA)

Hopefully I'll be able to have time to complete this one.

bentllama
10-21-2003, 07:41 AM
Good luck to all that enter!

Since moderators cannot enter we will live the challenge through you all, so do us proud!

Bon chance!

Pufferfish
10-21-2003, 07:47 AM
Count me in!

spirogyro
10-21-2003, 08:17 AM
where do you start with something like this???? I guess I'll have to see what people are coming up with, because I can't seem to visualize what we are being asked of. Just environment?? Must it be land?? can it be inside of something???

Supervlieg
10-21-2003, 08:33 AM
I'm in it for the prize :drool: And oh yeah, because of the art :P

Cyborgguineapig
10-21-2003, 09:17 AM
Originally posted by spirogyro
where do you start with something like this???? I guess I'll have to see what people are coming up with, because I can't seem to visualize what we are being asked of. Just environment?? Must it be land?? can it be inside of something???

Get your own ideas

;)

klingspor
10-21-2003, 09:29 AM
Ok, so what is the expected ratio of post to 3d work? I have some interesting ideas, but most of them involve more post-processing in 2D than actual 3D work - is that within the rules of the challenge?

For example if I had envisioned a firery/smokey place, would it be expected to do the fire and smoke in 3D or is 2D fine?

cuse
10-21-2003, 09:30 AM
haha, cool... Maybe 3months is long enough to get my act together ;) Thanks CGNetworks and Alienware.


cuse

zbgump
10-21-2003, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by stefanminning
Ok, so what is the expected ratio of post to 3d work? I have some interesting ideas, but most of them involve more post-processing in 2D than actual 3D work - is that within the rules of the challenge?

For example if I had envisioned a firery/smokey place, would it be expected to do the fire and smoke in 3D or is 2D fine?

My guess would be, it doesn't matter. The judges will be looking at renderings, not your project files. If they can't tell if its 3d or 2d, then kudos to you!

klingspor
10-21-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by zbgump
My guess would be, it doesn't matter. The judges will be looking at renderings, not your project files. If they can't tell if its 3d or 2d, then kudos to you! That was my first thought as well, but since it's specifically meant to be a 3D challenge, I'm not so sure! If it didn't matter then they wouldn't have set the scope so narow in the first place...

cuse
10-21-2003, 10:08 AM
Check the FAQ thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96093), Leonard says:-

Q. How much 2D is allowed over the 3D? Do things like dust, fire, and all other effects have to be achieved within the 3D app or can they be painted on afterwards? Would even things like paint-overs be allowed?
A. The image needs to be predominantly 3D, or give the effect of being three-dimensional. The purpose of this challenge is to facilitate the creation of art. Use your discretion, artistic license and initiative in creating the art.




cuse

klingspor
10-21-2003, 10:10 AM
Originally posted by cuse
Check the FAQ thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96093), Leonard says:-

cuse Ok, thanks!

(I could swear that wasn't there when I last checked :shrug: )

cuse
10-21-2003, 10:14 AM
I dont think it was ;) im pretty sure theyre all working to update as much as possible as quickly as possible hehe...



cuse

elvis75k
10-21-2003, 10:52 AM
GOOD LUCK! -__COUNT ME IN__- :thumbsup:

Incitatus
10-21-2003, 11:08 AM
Question: The rules state to avoid well known sci-fi franchises but what about a lesser known sci-fi concept? I recently read a book that fits the brief so perfectly it's eery. :lightbulb

Dhin
10-21-2003, 01:11 PM
IMO, draw influnces from it but do not copy style or what ever make it Uniquely yours, is what I'd say.

superclops
10-21-2003, 01:47 PM
'but life forms are inexistent'.... does this mean ALL life forms?
(plants, insects, ..etc)

shaddix
10-21-2003, 02:13 PM
wow man that PC really rocks my socks off :buttrock:

but what is that graficcard?? never heard of it. has anyone some details???

Neil
10-21-2003, 02:16 PM
I thought for sure the contest was gonna be to design their next case ;)

dg
10-21-2003, 02:17 PM
I'm just wondering when the submissions end?

Is it valid for people outside USA and Canada?

See ya!

cuse
10-21-2003, 02:21 PM
Shaddix - Alienware MJ-12 spec (http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/dcc_recommended.aspx)


cuse

JDex
10-21-2003, 02:46 PM
Ends Jan 20th @ 12am

It is called an international challenge as far as I know.

gabe_briganti
10-21-2003, 03:47 PM
Hey, guys. I'm Gabriel Gonzalez, the 3D multimedia designer for Alienware. First off, I just want to say how all of us here at Alienware are excited about this contest, and we definitely can’t wait to see what you guys produce. Another thanks to Cgnetworks for this opportunity. It’s going to be awesome.

We’ve been looking through the threads and have seen many of the same concerns come up. Most of them have been answered in the FAQ thread by Leonard, so please read the FAQ thread.

There is one question about whether or not the guy screaming out can be part of the image. Alienware wants to exclude that guy from the scene.

Other than that, go crazy! And good luck!

fabriciomicheli
10-21-2003, 04:10 PM
Hi buddies...
just a question:

Can I enter the challenge using digital matte painting?
Because I heard that about using only 3D...
(if it's a still image you can give the third dimension feeling in many ways...)

Please answer me. :beer:

zbgump
10-21-2003, 04:18 PM
Originally posted by fabrizzzio
Hi buddies...
just a question:

Can I enter the challenge using digital matte painting?
Because I heard that about using only 3D...
(if it's a still image you can give the third dimension feeling in many ways...)

Please answer me. :beer: You may want to post this question in the faq thread.

PhilOsirus
10-21-2003, 04:28 PM
I love you guys:love:

milkyman
10-21-2003, 04:48 PM
does it have to be 3D? or could i use photoshop?

kodinaarian
10-21-2003, 05:35 PM
:buttrock:
this is goignto be fun, i am going to get in to it.
all you guys watch out for mr:cool:

Manta
10-21-2003, 06:26 PM
Ok. Good luck to everyone.

Count Me In! :cool:

iNFERNiS
10-21-2003, 06:31 PM
goddamn that system is a beast!

to bad i'm a noob :)

stephen2002
10-21-2003, 06:43 PM
This one is going to genereate some great artwork!

d3s1gn
10-21-2003, 06:50 PM
Someone can do a good translation in French ??

Thx

Nelis
10-21-2003, 07:06 PM
im in........ looks like a fun project and 3 months is quite some time so lets get started.

good luck people....

swag
10-21-2003, 07:28 PM
nice challenge - :beer:

pascal_blanche
10-21-2003, 07:46 PM
mods not accepted huh?Good thing that i am not a moderator anymore eheheh :p

gabe_briganti
10-21-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by milkyman
does it have to be 3D? or could i use photoshop?

It has to be a 3d image.

Salaadin
10-21-2003, 08:11 PM
:thumbsup:

Agent D
10-21-2003, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by pascal blanché
mods not accepted huh?Good thing that i am not a moderator anymore eheheh :p

Oh crap!!! QUICK, someone make him a moderator again! :scream: ;)

oxyg3n
10-21-2003, 08:46 PM
Wow this is great, I sure could put a computer to like that to good use!!

DigitalOmega
10-21-2003, 09:00 PM
well, this is going to be my first challenge, i will learn a lot of 3d and maybe have a better english! good luck to all of you!

DimitrisLiatsos
10-21-2003, 09:37 PM
pascal blanché wrote ....

mods not accepted huh?Good thing that i am not a moderator anymore eheheh


..this is not funny man....:wavey:


(..i am joking of 'course)

Aritz
10-21-2003, 09:55 PM
That computer looks great. Ummm... I will try to do something. Good luck!

wozzyke
10-21-2003, 11:36 PM
Hey ppl,

Just saw this topic and read the instructions a few times but I still have one question.
They see there are no lifeforms visible, but is it allowed to show eggs or something like the unborn upcomming inhabitants, its just I had something in mind but need to be able to show the eggs or something like that.
But I need to know this before I can start working on my sketch

wozz

fabriciomicheli
10-21-2003, 11:55 PM
At first, sorry Leonard for posting in the FAQ thread. I didn't know I Couldn't.

Second, in the faq's there is one that matches my question about create the still using matte painting:

Q. Can I enter the challenge using digital matte painting using predominantly Photoshop or Painter?
A. While there is nothing stopping you from entering the challenge, the milestones are clearly catered to 3D image creation, and you will be unable to meet these milestones. Quick answer is 'no'. Long answer is 'yes', but you probably won't meet the requirements to be considered for judging.

What do you mean with "probably"?
and why "yes" is a long answer?

Thanks. :thumbsup:

Xilica
10-22-2003, 12:42 AM
this is going to OWN :buttrock: :buttrock:

alx
10-22-2003, 01:09 AM
talk about MAJOR incentive... i am soo in this one...
3months has to to mean.. a hell of an image though. :P

did some one say H.R.giger? :P

Psotek
10-22-2003, 02:32 AM
Hell yeah!

Ive never entered ANY contest. I never thought my work is up to par with some of the stuff ive seen on cgtalk. But im gonna give this one a go. Whats the worst that can happen?

Good luck to all!!

Bartosz

draconix
10-22-2003, 02:46 AM
I'll join if I can get my comp in time. Building it peice by peice :D

hpslashluvr
10-22-2003, 02:47 AM
is there an age limit? hope this wasn't asked already but i'm too lazy to read the whole thread

some contests have an age limit of 18 so i wouldn't qualify *sniff*

Kevin Grand
10-22-2003, 03:35 AM
Create a 3D rendered image of what you might see if this "where" you.

Im probably the only one to notice it, but isnt it "were"?

Kuba
10-22-2003, 03:47 AM
WOWEEE... Man where did that come from. Unbelievable contest bring it on.:beer: :beer:

ZrO-1
10-22-2003, 03:55 AM
I am in like Flinn

This should be a seriously interesting challenge.

visualboo
10-22-2003, 05:32 AM
Originally posted by pascal blanché
mods not accepted huh?Good thing that i am not a moderator anymore eheheh :p
pshhh... bring it you crazy canuck!

:beer:

RikiB
10-22-2003, 06:12 AM
-=I'm in=- :buttrock:

tozger
10-22-2003, 08:18 AM
I beleive this challenge will produce some real original piece at the end.:buttrock:

Sceme
10-22-2003, 08:20 AM
oh shit (ups, bad word). I have never greated a good full scene image, only items. Whatta heck i'm gonna do now. And i suck at drawing. OMG. I'm so wasted.

But still, i'm gonna try:D *praying*

Garma
10-22-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by Bartosz
Ive never entered ANY contest. I never thought my work is up to par with some of the stuff ive seen on cgtalk. But im gonna give this one a go. Whats the worst that can happen?


That you suddenly are so good that the alien ship comes alive, flies out of your monitor and takes you away to some planet far, far away :applause:

cheers

oh and by the way, I'm in... I think:beer:

wozzyke
10-22-2003, 02:20 PM
damn ppl,

I'm trying to do my sketch but as I cant draw by hand this is giving me a huge problem, I know what to model and what I wanne do, but I cant put it on paper.
does the sketch need to be a good representation of what you wanne acchieve?

wozz

zbgump
10-22-2003, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by wozzyke
damn ppl,

I'm trying to do my sketch but as I cant draw by hand this is giving me a huge problem, I know what to model and what I wanne do, but I cant put it on paper.
does the sketch need to be a good representation of what you wanne acchieve?

wozz

I don't think so. The sketches are probably needed to ensure that the final image you create is your own, for legal/copyright reasons.

cerreto
10-22-2003, 04:03 PM
hmm me thinks alien ware should hurry up and get pascals adress so he doesnt have to wait 7 to 10 days ;)


looking forward to seeing some cool shizzle !

SibSpi
10-22-2003, 04:21 PM
All I can say is - nothing - I mean - the system - it's just - uhm

Good luck everyone and I hope you enjoy putting little old beginners like me to shame. Whilst still teaching us stuff of course.

I'm going to really hate losing this one :annoyed:


Gambaru na


-edit- WAH!!! I just noticed they want you to send your concept art - but I don't do concept - I also don't understand the damned post effects and compositing stuff...:blush:

Quizboy
10-22-2003, 04:25 PM
Hey does anyone know anything about that poster size requirement? Are they saying they would ideally want to have the design fit into an up and down format, or does that mean that sideways with those dimensions is just as good?

Makes a big difference composition-wise and I've noticed so far that a lot of the entry sketches are going sideways...is sideways what they want?

cuse
10-22-2003, 04:39 PM
Up and Down format?>I presume you mean portrait?

The guidelines state the dimensions and resolution to work with... They also say portrait (vertical) may be an advantage as the winners work would probably be a poster etc. Landscape (horizontal) would be acceptable though... come on guys make sure you read the guidelines and FAQ first...


cuse

MonkeyNinja
10-22-2003, 04:41 PM
/me wants to run Debian on that Box !

I'm interested to know if the picture should be from the viewpoint of you or should it depict you standing in that environment.

Quizboy
10-22-2003, 04:43 PM
Thanks for your answer Mr. Cuse. The reason I asked was precisely because I have read the guidelines thoroughly otherwise how would I have known to ask in that way? I just wanted a clarification for an explanation which I found unclear, especially because I see almost ALL of the sketches entered going horizontally.

Quizboy
10-22-2003, 04:50 PM
Your mission: Create a 3D rendered image of what you might see if this were you.

Hey MonkeyNinja -

I'll try to answer you in a civil way quickly before Cuse tries to jump down your throat. I do believe they mean your viewpoint - depending on how you interpret "what you might see if this were you"

cheers.

Quizboy
10-22-2003, 05:25 PM
Another potentially "dumb" question. But I was raised to ask questions and be sure than to sit mum and stay dumb...

I just want to be sure that images that I post in my WIP challenge thread are NOT considered official entries for my challenge.

Meaning can I simply post sketches, images, etc. to get feedback in my automatically generated challenge forum without those being counted as my "milestones?"

(Disclaimer: yes, I have read ALL the rules, and ALL the FAQs but still for whatever reason I am not 100% sure of this question, so I thought I'd ask. I hope that's ok here.)

finchiswaiting
10-22-2003, 10:41 PM
man, how about you just give me the comp ya??? because i will win no matter what, with my couple months experience compared to all your 4years and beyond. i pwn, hahaha. i cant wait to see al the work that will be submitted

m3_fs
10-23-2003, 12:06 AM
I'm going to really hate losing this one

lol, well said...err written..uh.. This is my first competition as well. I am very excited here on day three thank you cgtalk and alienware!! I think I may spend $6000 upgrading my machine though so I will be able to render what I have in my head. :P

Magnusv
10-23-2003, 12:10 AM
Thinking of entering but I need some clarification please.
The instructions state this: "This location seems to be whispering to you, you have a feeling that something was created here"
The key word's here are "was created". Does this mean we are to create only landscapes/environment?No actual structures?Perhaps only remnants of what was once.
Another part of the instructions too confuse me a bit."The location seems unpopulated, but not necessarily abandoned or neglected, nor rusting or decaying".Anyways I sure hope someone can help me out of the Fog I am in.Thanks.
:beer:

Leonard
10-23-2003, 12:34 AM
Dear all,

Please note the clarifications regarding the terms and conditions for challenge entries:

- No artwork will be used in any fashion without credit given to the artist.
- No artwork will knowingly be sold, in whole or in part, by Alienware
- It is not Alienware's intention to keep ANY of the artwork other than for purposes of deciding a winner and longer than the length of this contest.
- The artist will be asked permission for the use of their artwork if outside of the scope of the contest or the above mentioned purpose(s).
- The artist is allowed to use the images created for personal promotion. E.g. submission for EXPOSE' and other galleries.

Full terms and rules are outlined here:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/alienware/challenge.php

Cheers,

Leonard

Leonard
10-23-2003, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by Quizboy
Another potentially "dumb" question. But I was raised to ask questions and be sure than to sit mum and stay dumb...

I just want to be sure that images that I post in my WIP challenge thread are NOT considered official entries for my challenge.

Meaning can I simply post sketches, images, etc. to get feedback in my automatically generated challenge forum without those being counted as my "milestones?"

(Disclaimer: yes, I have read ALL the rules, and ALL the FAQs but still for whatever reason I am not 100% sure of this question, so I thought I'd ask. I hope that's ok here.)


I've added the above question to the FAQ. Cheers.

Q. Are Work In Progress (WIP) going to be judged?
A. No. But you need to submit work in progress shots (screengrabs, sketches, test renders, etc) in order to meet the requirements of this challenge. We will not be judging the quality of the WIP's submitted, but they need to be submitted, for the overall entry to be considered for judging.

Magnusv
10-23-2003, 12:49 AM
And still no answer to my Question? Is it that there is no real definitive answer?
The instructions state this: "This location seems to be whispering to you, you have a feeling that something was created here"
The key word's here are "was created". Does this mean we are to create only landscapes/environment?No actual structures?Perhaps only remnants of what was once.
Any answer to this would be appreaciated,thanks.:beer:

ivankio
10-23-2003, 03:28 AM
I feel it would be easier to work outside the office 6 hour/day these 3 months and holidays to make the $6000 than win against these people. I can feel what that "old begginer" means :cry:. But, we like to pretend we can run up.

But again, I just cry when my manual say that is an artist that makes the message, not the fractal (not actual words, but I got this idea :arteest:). I guess even if I could dedicate the 3 months in Tibet to it, still those guys with no time to eat would beat me in a couple of nights away from family.

This contest seems to screams: watch and learn, boy :wise:!

I'm too stubborn to stay sit, so, let's see.

------

Maybe I can get a Santa's job to get the mouse of that system - hey, it's a start.

Now all I can think is those aliens' toys.

Wardile
10-23-2003, 07:32 AM
How do i enter the challenge ? i wanna join

m3_fs
10-23-2003, 07:33 AM
use logic my friend. I had the same prob till I read a little. Heres a hint, check the instructions

Wardile
10-23-2003, 07:42 AM
Thanx, wuz right infront of me... slap me, who knows, maybe ill wake up

ayanami0
10-23-2003, 09:22 AM
Don't know if this is where to post, but, I am in !!!!:beer:

Agent D
10-23-2003, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by ayanami0
Don't know if this is where to post, but, I am in !!!!:beer:

Cool, but you need to go to http://www.cgnetworks.com/alienware/ and enter there. Good luck!

Quizboy
10-23-2003, 10:28 AM
I've added the above question to the FAQ. Cheers.

Thanks Leonard.

Quizboy
10-23-2003, 11:08 AM
Thinking of entering but I need some clarification please.
The instructions state this: "This location seems to be whispering to you, you have a feeling that something was created here"
The key word's here are "was created". Does this mean we are to create only landscapes/environment?No actual structures?Perhaps only remnants of what was once.
Another part of the instructions too confuse me a bit."The location seems unpopulated, but not necessarily abandoned or neglected, nor rusting or decaying".Anyways I sure hope someone can help me out of the Fog I am in.Thanks.

I think this is WAAAY open to interpretation. It's purposely vague because this is the part you have to fill in. But there are certain keypoints which you should probably watch for:

Don't make rusting or decaying surfaces. If you do you won't win.
You are probably correct to stick to environment/landscape primarily, but structures might be ok - that's the interpretation part. But my guess is to definitely avoid making actual aliens, because the whole thing seems to be geared to creating the 'suggestion' of aliens or some sort of alien life rather than aliens themselves. Otherwise there would be no reason to ask: "Is Anyone There?"

(Disclaimer: the above is only my interpretation of the rules. Rely on my interpretation at your own risk.)

Good Luck!

Dhin
10-23-2003, 12:00 PM
They've given us some much open areas to this contest that there is very little out there that could be done that would not qualify, or so you'd think.

I was browsing through some of the entries so far and I'm amazed! Some people have skipped the concept sketch and started modeling (okay they just need to remember to add that latter, :blush: ) some people have use ink'n paint materials on models to try and past them off as concept sketches (umm, not exactly what I would call kosher, but hey if I noticed it I don't think the judges will miss it, :argh: ) and some one even skipped every things and submitted a final image (maybe a mistake maybe not I'm not sure on that one.) Some people are trying to incorporate the alienware logo or produces in an attempt to sway judging in there favor (I think due to lack of talent, but that maybe just my view on it. :thumbsdow) But the Best "oops, I didn't read anything and just say the prize so I entered and started porting," I've seen is one of a guy looking out a window at a sunset (all you see is the window and the guys face behind the blinds, this is no-where near the topic at all! :curious: ) I have to laugh and shake my head.

I'm thinking in the next month there will be a ton of entries and if as many of them skip ready the instructions and rules then we'll have only a handful of qualified entries to look at. And the fact that most people that have entered will not finish (statistically less than one-third will finish, and that is being generous.)

Or am I just being to critical?

Quizboy
10-23-2003, 02:02 PM
Dhin said:

I'm thinking in the next month there will be a ton of entries and if as many of them skip ready the instructions and rules then we'll have only a handful of qualified entries to look at. And the fact that most people that have entered will not finish (statistically less than one-third will finish, and that is being generous.)

Or am I just being to critical?

No, Dhin I don't think you're being too critical at all. This is in fact the way of the world. I myself, being such a newbie, fall into the category of having a big chance of not finishing - mainly because i don't have enough experience (especially with rendering) to move through the phases quickly and efficiently enough to reach that "little something EXTRA" level of output, but i am certainly going to do my darndest to fight the grain that's going against me.

I'm supposed to be working on a portfolio anyway...I just want that system so bad that I am going to put everything I have into the one picture and end up with a one image portfolio that hopefully makes it look like it must be one of many. Haha, it'll be fun going for it...

But anyway I'm sure your attrition rate is about accurate as people come up with concepts that are far beyond their skills and get overwhelmed once they've started - and also with people who will think midway "Aah, Pascal Blanche is entering, or Stahlberg is entering, or blah-blah has already gotten this far...and they'll give up. Also I'm sure that at the last moment a lot of folks won't be done, but will at least turn in what they have (which doesn't really count as competition.) Funny enough, even people who read this thread will still fall off even after we've said all this.

...but. There's always a but. I think the completed entries that get turned in will be amazing beyond belief. I have to only hope that mine 1) gets finished 2) is worthy enough to turn a head or two.

Ever heard of anyone getting a job with a one image portfolio?
:rolleyes:

Cheers!

gabe_briganti
10-23-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Quizboy
I think this is WAAAY open to interpretation. It's purposely vague because this is the part you have to fill in. But there are certain keypoints which you should probably watch for:

Don't make rusting or decaying surfaces. If you do you won't win.
You are probably correct to stick to environment/landscape primarily, but structures might be ok - that's the interpretation part. But my guess is to definitely avoid making actual aliens, because the whole thing seems to be geared to creating the 'suggestion' of aliens or some sort of alien life rather than aliens themselves. Otherwise there would be no reason to ask: "Is Anyone There?"

(Disclaimer: the above is only my interpretation of the rules. Rely on my interpretation at your own risk.)

Good Luck!

you can design anything you think you'd see. this is an "alien" environment. taking that into consideration you really have no limitations other than to avoid reference to alien environments we recognize, like Giger for instance. it could be in the open, it could be under ground, it could be inside some structure, it could be over ground, it could be in thin air. even i'm over here thinking of what i would do that's that different from what we've all seen already.

Dhin
10-23-2003, 02:47 PM
I just found the way some people have been entering things amusing really. I'm still working on my concepts. I don't have anything that I like or anything solid. I'm not going to post any of them until that is done.

Personally this is a sorta' first for me too, so chances of my completing it in time are small as well. I'm a Low Poly modeler by profession, and I do mainly characters. So when it comes to modeling environments (and high poly) I'm out of my league. I still intend to finish and I'll do my best, that's all any of us can hope for really. But still I am thoroughly reading and rereading the brief and rules just to make sure I'm on the right track. I really have to question some people though. You know?

handige_harrie
10-23-2003, 04:53 PM
Processor/s: Dual Intel Xeon Processors 3.2GHz 800MHz FSB w/ 2MB Cache

Unless I have missed something this processor doesn't exist.

There is an Intel Pentium4EE that runs on 3.2GHz and has an 800MHz FSB and 2MB Cache. This is meant for single-cpu systems and as far as I know it doesn't run in Dual setups, hence the existence of the Xeon line.

There also is an Intel Xeon DP that runs on 3.2GHz but only has a 533MHz FSB and 512KB L1 Cache and 1MB L2 Cache.

So if someone can clear this up please :rolleyes:.

Great contest btw, maybe I'll join in but not before I've done some serious brainstorming :).

Magnusv
10-23-2003, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by gabe_briganti
you can design anything you think you'd see. this is an "alien" environment. taking that into consideration you really have no limitations other than to avoid reference to alien environments we recognize, like Giger for instance. it could be in the open, it could be under ground, it could be inside some structure, it could be over ground, it could be in thin air.


My problem has been the structures.From what I understand of these instructions having structures would be off of what they explain.This is the part in the instructions that throw me off of any thoughts on building any structures: This location seems to be whispering to you, you have a feeling that something was created here; //////// "Something was created here",now if something was created here how can there be something of any kind there now? It would be totally off of the instructions.Therefore making your structures invalid in the judges eyes and wasting your time creating all the structures.:surprised
Well any thoughts on this.I think that this is my stumbling block.Could someone clear this up for me,what are your thoughts?Thanks.:beer:

JJASSO
10-23-2003, 08:28 PM
can this still be a matte painting?? I mean 3d models whit some digital painting on it

SibSpi
10-23-2003, 08:29 PM
There also is an Intel Xeon DP that runs on 3.2GHz but only has a 533MHz FSB and 512KB L1 Cache and 1MB L2 Cache.

Consider this - the machine won't be available to claim until AFTER the competition has finished. The ending date is Jan 20 2004 - I mean, that's 3 months man. Intel is a sponsor in this competition, so I guess they decided they would put in a processor that would be available SOON - not now, not tomorrow, but at the very least when this competition closes.
'Sides - if it doesn't exist and you still have a machine running it, then that gives you even more to brag about now doesn't it?

Anyway - as far as I'm concerned - if they don't want structures, then don't put them in. If they still want something to have been "created" here, then think Sphinx. There are arguments as to who created the damned thing, aliens or humans... So just create something, well, sphinxy, if you get what I mean.

Otherwise - you can think magical - say, a planet where physics are normal. Gravity still makes everything go an sit on it's backside, wind still blows things over and that sort - BUT you have an item or two *floating in mid air* - not 'cuz of anti-gravity pads or rocket engines - but 'cuz of MAGIC. C'mon people! USE THAT LEFT BRAIN! (I am aware that for some it means dusting off a few items from the closet before finding it)

Anyway - don't be afraid of doing the same thing(s) as other people do, provided of course you didn't directly copy it. It may have the same theme - but it sure as hell doesn't mean you sat on the chair behind him and glanced over his shoulder at his work. Also - no two artists can make something look EXACTLY the same. Unless you are using primitives (shame on you :shame: )

All this from a little (not old in THAT way) beginner... who's brain have I been reading this time....... :rolleyes:

oh - and remember: It's called INSPIRATION - don't copy other people, rather, be INSPIRED by their work. If they can do it, then with a few months of hard work, you can make something that looks remotely like theirs did.

SibSpi
10-23-2003, 09:21 PM
*sigh* it seems as tho a lot of people are missing the ball completely.... I'm not particularly good at drawing myself, but I must say - some of the not-so-good-looking pictures, all have a "alien race and how they are surviving" theme. Some don't even have a them that is REMOTELY related to an environment.

PEOPLE! PLEASE READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND TIPS BEFORE ENTERING - IF NOT, YOU WILL PROLLY BE DISQUALIFIED!!!

sorry bout that but it makes it noticeable

handige_harrie
10-23-2003, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by SibSpi
Consider this - the machine won't be available to claim until AFTER the competition has finished. The ending date is Jan 20 2004 - I mean, that's 3 months man. Intel is a sponsor in this competition, so I guess they decided they would put in a processor that would be available SOON - not now, not tomorrow, but at the very least when this competition closes.
'Sides - if it doesn't exist and you still have a machine running it, then that gives you even more to brag about now doesn't it?


Yeah of course it's 3 months from now, but I haven't heard anything about 800MHz Xeon's, roadmaps shows 667MHz fsb.

Wait: http://freespace.virgin.net/m.warner/Roadmap2004.htm

Q2 2004:

Intel Nocona B IA32 CPU is expected to be released in H1 2004. Nocona B is expected to be identical to Nocona, but with support for an 800Mhz FSB.

Nocona is the 0.09micron version of the Xeon (based on the Prescott core) coming end of this year with a 533MHz FSB.

Hmm interesting :).

m3_fs
10-24-2003, 12:26 AM
*sigh* it seems as tho a lot of people are missing the ball completely

camdoggz
10-24-2003, 03:27 AM
Damn straight......any computers gonna be good, especially a free one. and hey the alienware cases look pretty lol :drool: :D

gago
10-24-2003, 07:34 PM
should this Idea...environment be related to the alienware products? yes? no? thanks! :shrug:

Dhin
10-24-2003, 08:39 PM
No, they are sponcering the contest but that isn't what they want as it could stifle the creativity of the contestants

SibSpi
10-24-2003, 10:23 PM
never mind that - just think what the contestants would be like:

"My alienware logo looks cooler than yours! It's got lowing eyes!!!"

"Oh yeah? Well I've got a real texture on my one! Your one just uses a simple diffuse color"

"Well - at least I know how to use the video post features!"

"Those are nothing if you can't even make decent textures!"

Point proven? There would be on helluvalot of fights if the sponsor logos had to be used...:thumbsdow

Blazor
10-25-2003, 03:44 AM
i am entering and i dont even know hot to use, not to mention have a 3D program yet. :D

SibSpi
10-25-2003, 03:24 PM
well if you don't have a 3d program maybe you could do it with clay? just kidding - but it would really help if you had a 3d program...

Quizboy
10-26-2003, 12:59 PM
I've trying to setup my camera and resolution gate for this image, so I've been playing a lot with angle of view as a tradeoff for how much stuff i can get into the picture.

What angle of view/camera settings are YOU using to set up your alienware challenge image, and why?

As an addendum, does anyone know the angle of view which most closely duplicates the field of vision of our own eyes? Vertically, Horizontally?

oxyg3n
10-26-2003, 10:47 PM
The lens that is represents the human eye the closest would be a 50mm one.

facial
10-27-2003, 02:00 AM
I feel exciteing when i see challenge works this time, some of them are really great!! suprises me.
I am sure we will get really unimaginable works through this challenge topic. LOL:D
Best wishes to evryone !
:beer:

Quizboy
10-27-2003, 07:09 AM
oxyg3n said:

The lens that is represents the human eye the closest would be a 50mm one.

Thanks for responding! Could you elaborate on your response a bit? Maybe explain how you specifically translate this into the camera settings for your alienware image? Especially taking into consideration the PORTRAIT style view...

The reason I ask is that I've noticed that by widening my angle of view, I can get more objects into the picture and make it all seem more vast, but of course my perspective is distorted the more angle i use. I'm trying to determine a decent balance, so I want to know how other (more experienced) CGers are handling this.

oxyg3n
10-27-2003, 07:56 AM
As I understand it, the human eye see things at about the equivelint of a 50mm camera lens. So, if you wanted it to look like you were viewing you scene through the eyes of a person you could set the camera in the program you use to be 50mm.

Also, at 50mm you minimize the amount of distortion that you get from the camera. If you use a wide lens like 15mm or 24mm you will see more of your landscape but it will be more distorted.

I know that in movies they will use a wideangle lens to introduce a new scene or large area to the audience. It established that shot/ or location.

In choosing the size of lense you will use, it is all up to how you want people to percieve your scene and your personal preferences.

If I am wrong with any of this information please correct me.

JDex
10-27-2003, 10:28 AM
I think that although the camera settings are very important to the over-all composition, it is somewhat trivial until the image is done. Many directors would not select their lenses until they did the site visit and chose the best point of reference for the scene. Once your scene is more or less modelled, start adding cameras and tweaking their settings and positions until you find that sweet spot that makes your composition scream the message you want. This is one of the absolutely great things about 3D over other mediums.

SibSpi
10-27-2003, 10:28 AM
I didn't have time to read the few lines so slap me if I'm repeating.

I found in Max that if you use the rendering size that is listed for the final image - then put it to portrait with a camera angle of 50mm - the picture gets stretched along its length. To correct this - always set your camera arpeture to be equal to your camera mm.

To do this - goto rendering>render and look towards the top left of the window for the option. Do note that this may change the camera lens settings of the selected/viewport camera.

Hope this helps.
While I'm at it - anyone know of a good way to reduce polys after meshsmoothing selected areas? I've been using meshsmooth on my not-so-pretty-looking parts of my landscape the whole time, but some parts are a bit excessive and/or not even visible.

Thnx
Dewa mata

SibSpi
10-27-2003, 08:45 PM
btw - the "Alienware entry: yadda yadda"
Is EVERYTHING you put in there supposed to be judged? Or only the stuff you actually uploaded thru the "submit entry" thingy?

ssloan
10-27-2003, 09:30 PM
The way I understand it you have to enter the stages of you image in “submit entry”, for example I have 3 images in “submit entry” for my concept. For the final entry you have to select the option “final image” or something like that in “submit entry”

remember this is just my understanding
hope it helped

Ryousuke
10-27-2003, 11:26 PM
Really nice contest i think i'm going to enjoy trying this out ^^

dam..my avatar is small :eek:

PreatORiAn
10-30-2003, 09:17 PM
good luck everyone. I hope I acsually stand a chance against you pro's over here :)

m3_fs
10-31-2003, 06:21 AM
As I mentioned in another post. It is extremely interesting to see how we parallel in our interpretation of what an alien envrionment looks like. There are alot of similarities and alot of originality, it is my humble opinion that the designers of the contest took that into account and are looking for the one(s) that breaches the boundaries but stays within the rules of the contest. This is going to be awesome to see how this evolves. Good luck to everyone and good call on the three months too ;) thanks!

scootch
10-31-2003, 09:24 PM
is displacementmap considered part of texturing or modeling?

Designer2
11-02-2003, 01:30 PM
:arteest:

have some fun arteests,

centavrus
11-03-2003, 07:25 PM
:thumbsup: yes... its realy cool- I think its great oportunity for doing realy good work and develop our minds.Good luck all !

InTheCity
11-04-2003, 08:08 AM
Man I'd love to enter, but I can't even find an image upload section in the forum.?? Help me out.

Dhin
11-04-2003, 10:06 AM
Click on the 4th thread in the ALIENWARE Challenge section (it's Locked and Pinned so it will ALWAYS be the forth thread on the first page,) it's title is Notice: View latest entries here... (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=96178) there is a line there that says "And upload your entries here:" with this link:
http://www.cgnetworks.com/alienware/submit_entry.php

rickycox
11-04-2003, 12:26 PM
I wish I could delete some of my milestones, I've posted way too many pix for the concept section about 9 at last count.

Aaah well, they said have "fun" with it :)

klingspor
11-04-2003, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by riki
I wish I could delete some of my milestones, I've posted way too many pix for the concept section about 9 at last count.

Aaah well, they said have "fun" with it :) Agreed, I too would like to see a way to remove some entrires.

m3_fs
11-04-2003, 03:23 PM
Agreed, I too would like to see a way to remove some entrires.
:)

nineinchneil
11-15-2003, 06:01 PM
i know the contest is already well under way, but count me in. man, i already missed a month so i better get crackin!

nineinchneil
11-15-2003, 06:02 PM
i know the contest is already well under way, but count me in. man, i already missed a month so i better get crackin!

Wardile
11-20-2003, 09:40 AM
May i place a character in my scene, i need to... otherwise the scale of things might not be deliverd to the eye correctly.

SibSpi
11-20-2003, 10:20 AM
Of course you can!!!

Just don't be surpised if you are disqualified "for no reason" :p

They say in "the scene", "This is what you would see if this were you", "the area seems unpopulated, but neither rusting nor decaying" and "but lifeforms are inexistant".

This implies the following for you to use as important guidelines:

Nr.1 The camera is supposed to be your eyes, not from behind, over your shoulder (as I said in another post which I noticed was wrong) or from above. You can't for example show yourself standing in a vast oasis/desert or watnot.

Nr.2 The area doesn't look as though any kind of civilization lived there, but at the same time it doesn't look like lifeforms weren't here to begin with. Putting in buildings would imply that the area is or was populated, which is not what you want.
Putting in say an artifact, other than some demmed spaceship which doesn't count as an artifact, could make your scene more impressive. You have to remember that they want the scene to overwhelm you.

Nr.3 If you put in plants it should be okay, unless they are able to move and think for themselves, such as living trees (Lord of the Rings anyone?) or bushes that walk around. Putting in bugs shouldn't put it off too much, since no area in space could live without some kind of interaction between different elements.
It wouldn't be a smart idea to put in big eyed monkeys, since they account for sentient lifeforms. Birds are a no go as well since they are still able to think for themselves.

Bugs such as ants for example DON'T think for themselves - you hafto remeber that they work on the signals sent from their queen, which determines their actions.


Make with this as you will - after all, you're supposed to have FUN! If you get disqualified like I'm sure a good few hundred are going to be, then don't feel bad! It's very likely someone screwed up worse then you did :thumbsup:


...now if only those clouds could look right...

-EDIT- Oh yeah! Hello fellow South African!!!:wavey: -EDIT-

Turbonium
11-26-2003, 05:45 AM
I'm going to smoke you all, and I'm only gonna use MS Paint! MUHAHAHAHAHA!!!

JLicht89
12-04-2003, 12:42 AM
hey.. yeah!
i just got photoshop! my first ever expirence creating on A COMPUter!

now i have to get some 3d production suit to create the modeling and lighting ,etc etc.:rolleyes:

JLicht89
12-04-2003, 12:42 AM
hey.. yeah!
i just got photoshop! my first ever expirence creating on A COMPUter!

now i have to get some 3d production suit to create the modeling and lighting ,etc etc.:rolleyes:

scootch
12-05-2003, 07:50 AM
I'm a little lost as to what this mile stone is
Rendering - JPG (online)
what is it?

Ian Jones
12-05-2003, 09:02 AM
From my interpretation it is either:

A: The final render just before post processing work.

B: A few rendering experiments / style examples

It is of course, most likely A. We'll have to wait and see what they say.

scootch
12-06-2003, 04:46 AM
Is there an official.. ASK them place?
I don't think we're allowed to post in FAQ section..
hmm
I'm almost there to that step, and I need to know soon..

neverthemachine
12-13-2003, 09:07 AM
Hello just got into the challenge hope im not late for this one. Happy Holidays to You All.

chino
12-14-2003, 01:24 PM
hi all,
just entered the challenge... good luck to everyone.

chino
12-14-2003, 01:28 PM
hi all,

just entered the challenge...good luck to everyone

neverthemachine
12-17-2003, 01:11 PM
Hi everybody im just going around the site for a while kinda new so be patient with me.

But this challenge really cracks my skull.

:buttrock: IT ROCKS!:buttrock:

.:beer:Cheers :beer:

DUALVORTEX
01-06-2004, 12:35 PM
Hi everyone, I'm late so I must work hard.

Good luck!!

kjc
01-21-2004, 02:46 AM
ok I want to enter the next one already. impatience is a good sign.

TheFirstAngel
01-23-2004, 05:46 PM
When all is there I think and fixed, voting will start when its ready.
Let's get some rest after that storm. :)

Psotek
01-23-2004, 06:22 PM
Yay! Thanks alot guys, for making voting available so soon! You guys are the best! Thanks again!!!

Bartosz

neverthemachine
01-24-2004, 08:28 AM
hello everybody

havent been in the site lately, i hope your guys are doing great. i am thinking if i can submit my entry to Expose 2.

can that be????

anyways i thank you all it's been fun.

:buttrock:

Leonard
01-24-2004, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by neverthemachine
havent been in the site lately, i hope your guys are doing great. i am thinking if i can submit my entry to Expose 2?

Yes

neverthemachine
01-24-2004, 10:55 AM
I have never felt so excited to do this. Hope im not too late AGAIN.:blush:

thank you

TheFirstAngel
01-29-2004, 09:17 PM
Hey Friends!

First I like to thank anyone who made this possible. My special Thanks goes out to Leigh, who really was a great help and support for all artists.

I have a small 2 suggestions for the next Challenge.

For the submission, a form would be great, that gives the artist a confirmation if the final submission was successfull or not.

It might be too late for this one. My sugestion was to let JUST the Judges deciede and instead of a public vote post just a gallery for all, like the one now, but without voting.
So if noone votes, there's no hard feeliings under the challengers.

As I said, noone should get 0 voices, I made sure this is the case now, I don't think noone wins or looses cuz of my voice, so i gave my voice to ALL Challengers :)

Best luck for all! :beer:

Pufferfish
01-29-2004, 09:32 PM
:) you are too kind Angel..

I prefer brutal fighting and exciting voting, without sweet blessings to all ... this was a challenge after all, not a sunday bingo for aged population :buttrock:

but well... that is just me... :)

I wish you all the best :)

-pfish

eska
01-29-2004, 09:35 PM
I will also give my voice to all challengers.
Best luck to all.

Dan-o706
02-04-2004, 05:28 PM
I just wanted to thank CG Networks, Alienware, Nvidia, and everybody else that sponsored this contest. I had a really good time working on my image. Sometimes it gets so boring working on client projects because they very rarely give you much creative freedom. So this was a nice change and a good excuse to work on something fun. There are a lot of really good entries in this contest. I can see that a lot of talented people visit this web sight. I hope you have more contest like this one in the future. Thanks Again!
Dan-o:applause: :applause: :applause:

Psotek
02-05-2004, 01:01 AM
Hey has voting ended? Whats the status now?

-Bartosz

Steve Green
02-05-2004, 04:12 PM
I guess so... I suppose they'll let people know who made the shortlist before the panel makes their judgement next week.

- Steve

eatttbug
02-16-2004, 03:27 AM
Is there anybody?:)

kjc
02-16-2004, 03:33 AM
I'm wondering who's got huge smiles on their faces by now. Can't wait to find out who won.

Steve Green
02-16-2004, 10:56 AM
It's definitely today that it's going to announced?

- Steve

kjc
02-16-2004, 11:02 AM
according to this

"Public voting is finished and final judging is happening next week.

Announcement will be made Monday week: 16 Feb.

Winners will be contacted before then.

Leo"

Steve Green
02-16-2004, 11:22 AM
Thanks,

I look forward to seeing the results. I really hope we get to see the hi-res versions as well, rather than just the web versions.

- Steve

eatttbug
02-16-2004, 02:09 PM
so sorry,does angone attention our ALIENWARE in here?
Why so silent here.I haven't seen any result.
is today 2.16.2004?

Steve Green
02-16-2004, 02:13 PM
There's a still a way to go, remember that it's still early in the US.

Maybe there's a dispute over the winner and they're arm-wrestling each other to decide :)

- Steve

JamesMK
02-16-2004, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by Steve Green
Maybe there's a dispute over the winner and they're arm-wrestling each other to decide
That's probably closer to the truth than we could ever guess... Or not. :shrug:

Steve Green
02-16-2004, 02:55 PM
Maybe mud-wrestling then? :)

- Steve

JamesMK
02-16-2004, 03:09 PM
Yay! Mud wrestling! Hope we'll get a load of the AVI... I wanna see that :D

Pufferfish
02-16-2004, 04:37 PM
hehe would be hilarious I bet.

GOOOOOOOOONG! ROUND ONE!!

kjc
02-16-2004, 05:55 PM
realising it was going to be placed in mortal hands the MJ-12 activated it's distress beacon and now it's been scooped up by the mothership and carried away to it's home planet



no? oh alright then, mud wrestling it is, sheesh.

miguelf
02-16-2004, 11:39 PM
hi

Does anyone tell me when the final results came out ... it seems that is a difficult decision ... anyway hope to know soon ... today!!! :rolleyes:

eatttbug
02-17-2004, 06:36 AM
Although It's delay.
but I know they are very painstaking for the alienware.
Thank you.
but whatever the reason is.I think it's courtesy that the entrepreneur should give us a explication at least.
but now nobody gave the pothunter any explication.
:hmm:

CLONEOPS
02-17-2004, 11:40 AM
Just a suggestion - how about a case design contest!
those alienware cases are just a little bit uhmm cheeeeeesy!:lightbulb :drool:

Hellsp4wn
02-17-2004, 07:39 PM
The waiting is KILLING ME!!! :argh:

I think it at least is time for an explaination by now...
Just a little hint, maybe? Or did they just notify the winners and forgot about the rest of us? Or have they even decided on a winner yet?

:wavey:

So many questions.... Hope an answer'll come soon
*sigh*

kjc
02-17-2004, 08:26 PM
Here (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?threadid=121089)

Steve Green
02-17-2004, 08:59 PM
Thanks kjc,


I can stop hitting refresh :)

- Steve

JamesMK
02-17-2004, 09:29 PM
A mysterious event just a few days from now as 150 or so CGTalk regulars simultaneously buy new keyboards because the F5 key suddenly stopped working due to erosion.

Steve Green
02-17-2004, 09:46 PM
I think there might be a run on those ducking bird toys...

- Steve

CLONEOPS
02-18-2004, 01:41 AM
serenity now! serenity now! serenity now!
come on every body chant....
i yes i am waiting for some newssage too like every one else
but...try this..
say fok..fok..fok..fok..fok really fast as fast as you possibly can and either some tension is released
..........or you take off like a small
ornithopter buzzing around the room untill you hit the brickwall
outside the entryway to your computer room.

..here is another ..name something you have or own
"GIK"
....preferebly that small cute bunny you have or that cute
love bird your girlfiend just bought.,could be anything..
.....and then actively use that name.

hyperealism2003
02-19-2004, 06:04 PM
ok, are they even going to tell us if we made it through the first voting cut? The computer they are giving away is going to obsolete by the time they announce it... ha ha just kidding!

Just anxious! I am waiting on the expose' entry as well!
Having patients can be demanding!
Cheers! :beer:

rattlesnake
02-19-2004, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by hyperealism2003
The computer they are giving away is going to obsolete by the time they announce it... ha ha just kidding!

hahaha, thats good, :applause:
sad but true. haha

imscifi
02-19-2004, 11:45 PM
CLONEOPS : ROFL!!!!

oh sigh... ouch... heh heh heh... ahhh...

So hey MODS! (shhh... I know)... so who won? I'm itchin like a bad skin rash! :p

when was this stuff supposed to have been announced? It's been a month...

Though, supposedly they will have notified the winners... So for those who won... CONGRATS!!! :D

hyperealism2003
02-19-2004, 11:58 PM
Who ever they are....:hmm:

TheFirstAngel
02-20-2004, 04:06 PM
Startime 1729.50 Shipslog Capitan Quark
"we must have lost the track somehow, any proof of life can defiantely not be confirmed. After weeks of fading hope, we are sending an automessage to outer space... can u read us? We lost connection, we're lost in space..."

Haha, is there anbody out there? :wavey: :blush: :rolleyes:

Defonten
02-21-2004, 11:25 PM
Startime 22:29.41 Shipslog Captain DeFoe

"...they died sitting behind their monitors with cgtalk site open. I am the last alive to report this..argghh It's not my time yet! Also we're almost run out of spare F5 buttons for our keyboards..."

muyyatin
02-22-2004, 12:59 AM
Startime 05:53.74 Shipslog Warlord Zulog

"... and the human threat has been eliminated, the alien landscape now devoid of all life. We are on course to intercept an incoming enemy supply craft carrying... F5 buttons?!? That nincompoop must have been fooling with the scanners..."

buahahaha

vrf
02-22-2004, 03:39 AM
You guys haven't really been sitting around refreshing CGtalk all week, have you? Not sure if you saw the thread in the general forum, but Leigh mentioned that it would be hopefully the end of this week before the results would come back from Alienware. (And that "hopefully" may mean even later.)

That post maybe should have been put here to save all of you guys the torture of refreshing the page every five minutes. Anyhow, I assume the lucky winners have been contacted. Do they care to drop a hint?

leigh
02-22-2004, 08:38 PM
Sit tight guys, we'll be announcing the winners as soon as is humanly possible :)

BClaw
02-23-2004, 05:54 AM
Originally posted by Leigh
Sit tight guys, we'll be announcing the winners as soon as is humanly possible :)

:bounce: I'm just so *excited* to find out who all the winners are!!! :drool:

jayreef
02-23-2004, 08:08 AM
Looking forward to the results:thumbsup:

Leonard
02-23-2004, 12:00 PM
Hi all,

The judging process has now been complete and we've been notified from Alienware of the winners they have chosen. Alienware is preparing a Press Announcement and has embargoed the announcement till Wednesday 25th February. We cannot announce the winners till Alienware has done their press announcement.

I've arrange for the top 15 shortlisted artists selected by AW to prepare making-of articles for the community which will be featured on CGNetworks.com.

Regarding the winning images and the honourable mentions - the overall quality of the final images were stunning. Due to the number of great images though, it was really agonizing for the judges to cull the images at some point and there are a few unfortunate circumstances where images that *REALLY* should have been in the shortlist simply didn't (we respect the judges decisions). We're going to be adding most of these images to the CG Choice gallery for archival purposes.

Sorry for the delay guys, we just couldn't speed up the process. Just a couple more days.

Leo

Defonten
02-23-2004, 12:53 PM
Thanks Leo for clearing that up! :)

Weider
02-23-2004, 03:29 PM
Cool! only 2-3 days to wait! :beer:

hyperealism2003
02-23-2004, 06:05 PM
Cool, thanks for the update:D

TheFirstAngel
02-25-2004, 01:32 PM
Thanks 4 News! :thumbsup:

eska
02-25-2004, 02:40 PM
Dear Leonard

I would like to know if I have managed it through the first voting by the jury, the prior one to the final voting. Thanks.

Eska

MirageGraphics
02-25-2004, 02:45 PM
Eska,
If you didn't make it, we're all in trouble!!
Has anyone been contacted one way or another?
Mirage

eska
02-25-2004, 02:57 PM
They informed the winners already last friday.

That's it.

rattlesnake
02-25-2004, 02:59 PM
where?, they didnt tell me a thing:p , is that true?

eska
02-25-2004, 03:03 PM
YES!

JamesMK
02-25-2004, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by Leonard
I've arrange for the top 15 shortlisted artists selected by AW to prepare making-of articles for the community which will be featured on CGNetworks.com.
Thus, the top 15 artists have been informed.
No winners have yet been announced though.

MirageGraphics
02-25-2004, 06:01 PM
Seems odd that the lasts few posts here are from some of the best pieces yet no one seems to have been contacted. I'm curious to see which were contacted if it wasn't any of you.
Unless you've all been sworn to secrecey and you're playing along......
Mirage

CLONEOPS
02-25-2004, 06:06 PM
i think there is probably a non disclosure agreement as to any info the winners can release.

imscifi
02-25-2004, 09:02 PM
I thought today was the day... :surprised ahh well, guess I can wait *twitch* *twitch* a little longer...

;)

hyperealism2003
02-25-2004, 09:51 PM
Even though it was judged by cgnetworks... I bet Alienware made the final decision so they could use it in there advertisments.

So, we should have heard something if we were in the "15 shortlisted artists" ?

Weak sauce! :rolleyes:

jayreef
02-25-2004, 09:51 PM
talk about anticipation, reminds me of my first girlfriend:thumbsup:

Prazbotta
02-25-2004, 11:43 PM
If the top 15 have been notified, and eska, Rattlesnake and JamesMK (just to name a few) were not picked, then maybe we shoulda left the judging up to the public.

I just can't take it any more.
"I gots to know" (line from Dirty Harry, sorry, I'm done now)

Praz

DigitalOmega
02-26-2004, 12:03 AM
ohh... now my poor computer is starting to hate cgtalk... i am really curious about who are going to be the winners, or at least the 15 chosen.. i just wonder what happened to them.. why they didn´t chose eska, and the others.. so amazing works!

well.. i don´t know.. we are waiting here!
please! we want the results!!

hehe.. just kidding.. ..

5 mins... f5... another 5 mins, f5... again and again...

rickycox
02-26-2004, 01:07 AM
Well it's not me, not that I ever thought it would be.

CLONEOPS
02-26-2004, 01:33 AM
wait wait wait wait........
laugh intead
its a long long joke but wait for it...
try a fileshare you know the one that start with the letter K
search for artist:vinyl cafe/stewart mclean +titled: the fly.....mp3 wav whatever...

very very canadian humor....
iam.littleflag.

muyyatin
02-26-2004, 01:47 AM
Poorly written Haiku of the Moment:

Oh Alienware
Please make your press announcement
Or fix my F5!

Inspired by: Haiku-O-Matic (http://www.smalltime.com/haiku.html) , something to watch while waiting :beer:

Defonten
02-26-2004, 09:35 AM
Some more Bad news for us boys an' gals.



Author Leonard
Hey guys,

Here's the email I got from Alienware this morning:

"We will not be ready to announce the winners as anticipated by Wed. Feb. 24th. However, I expect that we will do so by the end of the week. I will keep you updated. Again, please do not announce prior to Alienware’s announcement. I appreciate the fact that the contestants have been waiting over a month for this announcement. We are working to announce them as soon as possible."

Sorry guys, gotta wait for AW to give us the word!

Leo



It is quite... :hmm:

TORMENTOR
02-26-2004, 06:00 PM
Is alienware takin part with copenhagen stuff?
If so announce it september or october 2004!

Lol!

DUALVORTEX
02-27-2004, 06:09 AM
We must know the winners before NASA sends more pics from Mars.
Our designs will be images of the past.
LOL!

spears
02-28-2004, 01:14 AM
Half the contenders, or the ones without notices would die from agony!

Originally posted by TORMENTOR
Is alienware takin part with copenhagen stuff?
If so announce it september or october 2004!

Lol!

CLONEOPS
02-28-2004, 04:56 AM
What i really need right now is one those little colorful
alienware squeeze toys..
so as i can Squeeze it and SQUEEZE IT and SqUeeeeZe IT!
until its little alien head pops off.





aaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh.

BClaw
02-28-2004, 06:41 PM
As amazing as this challenge has been, I have to admit I find myself losing interest in the final outcome. :shrug: I'm sure I'll get excited again when the winners are *finally* announced, heh. :bounce: