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RobertoOrtiz
11-29-2010, 01:39 AM
STILL EDITING....
CgTalk: FXWars! TRIBUTE
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b216/robertoortiz1/tribute1.jpg
Note: Lets see who can guess all the films on the image....

FX WARS TRIBUTE
From wikipedia:

Visual effects (commonly shortened to Visual F/X or VFX) are the various processes by which imagery is created and/or manipulated outside the context of a live action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_action) shoot. Visual effects involve the integration of live-action (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live-action) footage and generated imagery to create environments which look realistic, but would be dangerous, costly, or simply impossible to capture on film. Visual effects using computer generated imagery (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_generated_imagery) (CGI) have become increasingly common in big-budget films, and have also recently become accessible to the amateur filmmaker with the introduction of affordable animation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animation) and compositing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing) software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visual_effects[/url]


Here are some examples:
Visual Effects: 100 Years of Inspiration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP_hAszQPgk (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Chastise)





THE CHALLENGE:

Render a realistic, forensic or fantasy type animation based on a classic PRE DIGITAL visual fx sequence. And here is the kicker, NO IN SPACE SHOTS. That will be part of a future FX challenge. This means that both the creation of the FX and their composites most have been done using traditional FX methods.




The entry with the best VISUAL EFFECTS will be selected by an open vote. (You may do the entry anyway way you want , an FX piece with live action, a synthetic cg entry or a hybrid. The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner designed by me.

Keep in mind that the entry can be set in ANY time period, and the style of the project can be either in a realistic or campy.


DATELINE:
February 15 , 2010
(After that You have TWO MONTHS and TWO WEEKSto do the challenge.)
NOTE THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTING PLUG




TYPES OF ENTRY:
You may do one of these types of entries:
-DIRECT TRIBUTE
Recrete a classic PRE DIGITAL fx sequence
-FREEFORM ENTRY
The core requirement for this type of entry is to have fun. Use the Classic FX sequence as a starting point.
-VFX BREAKDOWN
This would be the kind of entry that one would see for a detailed explanation pf how a visual fx sequence was done .Think Discovery Channel special But keep in mind the key thing that I expect to see in all entries is GOOD VISUAL EFFECTS..
Here is a great example from Digital Domain:

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ45eVofEJI)[url="http://forums.cgsociety.org/"]VFX Breakdowns - Digital Domain - Titanic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ45eVofEJI)



CHALLENGE SPECIFIC RULES:

* No work taken DIRECTLY from an existing tutorial. You may use an existing tutorial only for reference.
* You may use a pre existing model, as long as you give credit to the creator. If you cant model, use simple shapes, since we are interested in the simulation. (But teams are encouraged, and if you are a modeler, you can make your model available)
* You may provide a heavily edited animation with all the trimmings (hell add live action if you want), as long a you provide another PLAIN animation of a side view of the working SIMULATION of multiple explosions in the planet surface.

Voting:

We will select by an open vote the:

* BEST VISUAL EFFECTS

The winner will get bragging rights and a small banner
designed by me.
_______________________________________

GENERAL RULES:

* The animation and visualizations must have been done AFTER the topic has been announced.
* You may use stock previously shot footage for background plates and VFX elements.
* IF you use footage for a VFX sequence it must be raw NOT contain any Visual Effects.
* WIP are encouraged if they are posted in ANOTHER thread. Please provide a link to them on this thread.
* WIP thread should be posted on the FXWARS Forum forum and should follow
the following naming convention: FXWars! TRIBUTE ENTRY TYPE (TRIBUTE, FREEFORM, VFX BREAKDOWN), (Note: Group entries are allowed)
* It is Recommended that Final movies should be rendered at 320 x 240 or 640 x 480 in QuickTime* format (Sorenson Compression), but other resolutions and formats are allowed. * (The animation format is open for discussion.)
* The animation should follow the following naming convention:
MYNAME_FXWARS(RESOLUTION).mov. And please add your name at the beginning and end of the animation, and if you can, also add a small non disruptive watermark during the animation.
* If for some reason, you can't host movies, sequential images (Thumbnails size 160 x 120 ) are accepted.
* You are STRONGLY encouraged to add your entry to You Tube. If interested, please contact the Roberto Ortiz.
* Please add a brief text description about your piece.
* The artist also has to post total length of time it took and program used.
* Collaborative pieces are accepted and encouraged, but Teams entries must have a identifying banner and a name. Shot lists should be included with the entry.
* Individuals participating in a team CAN have their own individual entries.
* Post on this thread your link to your WIP thread and your FINAL piece.
* You can add multiple entries, as long as they have different WIP threads.
* Freelancers CAN participate in more than ONE entry
* All Teams members & Freelancers will get screen credit for in the title cards for participation
* Only participants who follow the rules and submit a final entry will be elegible for the voting process.
* The moderators reserve the right to taken down any thread.

DIGITAL ASSETS:
Here are the footage models and that are available for this challenge.
You may use your own models for the challenge,
but I am making some of my model available for those who wish to use them


http://sketchup.google.com/3dwareho...a83cc0414c0721b
A collada version of this model is avaialbe upon request




REFERENCE:

* Visual Effects: 100 Years of Inspiration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP_hAszQPgk

* The Visual Effects Society "50 Most Influential Visual Effects Films of All Time"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z72jonE9zY8
* Top 50 movie special effects shots
http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/177...ects_shots.html



Industrial Light And Magic Tribute 1977-1989

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4_m...feature=related
-R

TD0615VFX
11-29-2010, 06:02 AM
Great I will be participating in this one :) now to decide what to do! Might I ask what movie that first picture with the burning building is from?

THarland
11-29-2010, 06:09 AM
No in space shots...
Is it safe to assume scenes from alien worlds are still fair game?

RobertoOrtiz
11-29-2010, 06:15 AM
No in space shots...
Is it safe to assume scenes from alien worlds are still fair game?
Those are very kosher...

More examples:
http://www.planetvideo.com.au/blog/

THarland
11-29-2010, 06:21 AM
Those are very kosher...
That's what I expected, I just wanted to be sure. :thumbsup:

Mirco83
11-29-2010, 08:52 AM
That's great, Count me on in!

THarland
11-30-2010, 02:15 PM
Here's the link to my WIP thread. (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=139&t=939085)

TD0615VFX
12-01-2010, 12:21 AM
does anybody know what that first picture in the collage is from? the one with the burning building

malducin
12-01-2010, 05:18 AM
does anybody know what that first picture in the collage is from? the one with the burning building

Gone with the Wind

TD0615VFX
12-01-2010, 05:20 AM
Thanks for the reply I think I will be attempting that scene then :D or a simular scene from some other movie :P

renaissance01
12-02-2010, 12:20 AM
DATELINE:
February 15 , 2010
(After that You have TWO MONTHS and TWO WEEKSto do the challenge.)
NOTE THERE WILL NOT BE A VOTING PLUG

Hey Roberto, just wanted to confirm...so this challenge finishes up in February 2011 so we have 2 months from now?

pixelbuilder
12-02-2010, 12:02 PM
And here is the kicker, NO IN SPACE SHOTS. That will be part of a future FX challenge. This means that both the creation of the FX and their composites most have been done using traditional FX methods.

Hey Roberto,
I'm a bit confused about the "kicker" - NO IN SPACE SHOTS does mean "No shots in a space environment" or all shots are allowed as long as FX where real models and comps are done with an optical printer?

Hope you can clarify that for me

Cheers

Axel

RobertoOrtiz
12-02-2010, 05:16 PM
Hey Roberto,
I'm a bit confused about the "kicker" - NO IN SPACE SHOTS does mean "No shots in a space environment" or all shots are allowed as long as FX where real models and comps are done with an optical printer?

Hope you can clarify that for me

Cheers

Axel

I meant to say OUTER SPACE

RayRay
12-02-2010, 07:57 PM
so this is due on feb 15th?

RobertoOrtiz
12-02-2010, 08:58 PM
so this is due on feb 15th?

yes it is, good luck

TD0615VFX
12-03-2010, 03:02 AM
So i decided to a scene from backdraft but when i do it do i have to do pretty much exactly what is done in the film or can i just recreate it with a different setting and stuff? and also when you say "* IF you use footage for a VFX sequence it must be raw NOT contain any Visual Effects." do you mean you have to put the explosion or whatever directly on it with no cc or lighting or anything like can you edit it from raw? Or do u mean you cant use footage that has stuff done to it?

renaissance01
12-03-2010, 03:22 AM
It means exactly what it says: "IF you use footage for a VFX sequence it must be raw NOT contain any Visual Effects."

If you want to use footage in your shot, it must be raw footage with no visual effects already in it. Eg, you could use footage you shot with your video camera...but you couldn't use footage from say Transformers with robots and cg elements everywhere.

TD0615VFX
12-03-2010, 03:24 AM
Ohhh I understand :P thanks
Here is my WIP thread http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?p=6788585#post6788585

RobertoOrtiz
12-03-2010, 03:58 AM
It means exactly what it says: "IF you use footage for a VFX sequence it must be raw NOT contain any Visual Effects."

If you want to use footage in your shot, it must be raw footage with no visual effects already in it. Eg, you could use footage you shot with your video camera...but you couldn't use footage from say Transformers with robots and cg elements everywhere.

You got it.

malducin
12-03-2010, 09:40 PM
Note: Lets see who can guess all the films on the image....


It was a bit tricky but here it goes left to right, top to bottom for those looking for references:

Gone with the Wind
From the Earth to the Moon
Planet of the Apes
Forbidden Planet
Back to the Future
The Wizard of Oz
King Kong
The Day the Earth Stood Still
2001
War of the Worlds
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
V (first miniseries)
Ben Hur

RobertoOrtiz
12-03-2010, 09:41 PM
Ok my amigo you get the cookie...

Ill pay up in SIGGRAPH

malducin
12-04-2010, 05:12 PM
Hehe, as long as I get the Canadian visa.

But after the cookie we'll do a round of tequila!

webhead
12-04-2010, 08:15 PM
It was a bit tricky but here it goes left to right, top to bottom for those looking for references:

Gone with the Wind
From the Earth to the Moon
Planet of the Apes
Forbidden Planet
Back to the Future
The Wizard of Oz
King Kong
The Day the Earth Stood Still
2001
War of the Worlds
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
V (first miniseries)
Ben Hur

I got all but V. I thought it was just films, not miniseries.
Isn't the second title supposed to be A TRIP TO THE MOON (1902) based on the Jules Verne novel: FROM THE EARTH TO THE MOON?

malducin
12-05-2010, 03:45 PM
Yep you're right, got my wires crossed. I was too lazy to actually research the French title.

Yeah V also stomped me for a while, because I was thinking films as well. Kept thinking of movies with red spacesuits. The Day the Earth Stood Still was for a second tricky because I saw the flying saucer in DC and thought of Earth vs The Flying Saucers, until I saw the crowds. The Star Child could be tricky because 2010 replicated it so well for its handful of shots, but if we talk classics pick 2001 (that picture must be the final shot in 2001).

mo_pic
12-06-2010, 08:48 AM
Some of the links aren't working ...

Fess
12-10-2010, 06:30 PM
its moments like this when I wish I was in prison with access to a workstation for good behavior.

*time

diparun
12-27-2010, 08:21 PM
Dear Mod,

Is there any restriction on which period qualifies as Pre-Digital ? like, say, before 1980... I was looking about making Tributes on ApolloXI(1985,I think) or Volcano(1997), and this question cropped up...

How classic is classic ? :)

Thanks in advance,
Arun

KevinGeorge
12-28-2010, 12:56 AM
I'm doing Independence Day (1996) and nobody's told me not to yet... I guess I have a similar question :)

diparun
12-28-2010, 06:26 PM
Rephrasing my question above...

Is the contest about re-creating a shot in CG that was done non-digitally(i.e non-CG )? Or, re-creating any shot(CG/non-CG) in a way that we deem it better(eg: the above IndepDay/Volcano question)?

Plus... Do we have to replicate the actual scene ? - for eg: does Moses has to be composited(camera), look and act like the originalMoses - so that our tribute looks like jus a CG replica of the classic scene ??

And, expected duration ??

HappyNewYear,
Arun

RobertoOrtiz
02-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Either way ij ok.

-R

Helli
02-22-2011, 10:41 AM
Any plan when the next fx war is going to start, I would love to participate in the next one (I know the previous one just ended.)

RobertoOrtiz
02-22-2011, 02:00 PM
give me about 3 weeks...

Mech arena will take some time to set up..
-R

Helli
02-22-2011, 04:06 PM
Mech Arena ?

And sure take all the time you need, in the meantime I will work on some other shot or rebuild one from the latest challenges.

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