Environment: Terragen Arts

[Danza]

wow those pics are awesome, love the second one with good contrast of colours :love:

[Windmill]

My personal fav is the first one :scream:

[rollmops]

Yes the first one is cool!
Even better with a little haze...:thumbsup:

[Pufferfish]

STUNNING!

[Fasty]

Fantastic work :)

Just a question, how do you create your terrain? Do you use Terragen's internal editor or use some other paint package, or do you use real world dem files for example?

[Supervlieg]

Excellente! I like the second, the rainbow effect is supercool!

[PanzerG]

oh, first pic rock!!!!water is beutyfull!!!!

[easy]

The landscapes and water are great but i don't think that the sky algorithm of Terragen is that great yet. The 2nd image, Mystical, though has come out really well. I like the use of colour.

[Saeed]

the first one are cool.but i love the second one. :eek::thumbsup:

[Wonderer]

Beautifull, it makes me wander within.

[Hostil Elektrod]

imo the skies dont showing real, too flat, try to make it in some layers with different opacity clouds...
the rest of composing r good the volumetrics and lighting looks nice.

[gase3924]

WOW WOW WOW
In what probgram did you made this?

[cly]

The second one looks fantastic, really good mod.

[Neil]

Originally posted by gase3924
WOW WOW WOW
In what probgram did you made this?

Terragen.

There is more to the post, than just the images.

[ninjacore]

wow. superb. Terragen in the right hands is always an impressive program. especially for being so small, and free.

i really like Mystical and Blissphemy. Mystical looks like the cover of a power metal album or something.really nice colours. Blissphemy looks really atmospheric. i like the detail of the landscape in the first pic, but the sky seems a little flat. but i like the large ominous clouds.

i have a terragen pic on my webshite if anyone cares ( in 3d section).

[Garma]

cool.

How much time did it cost to create one of these images? Because from what I remember from Terragen it's kinda easy to create beautiful work in very short time. However I wouldn't know how to create this kind of work in terragen, so that's why I'm wondering.

[mage111]

you know your teragen thats for sure ;-)

goodjob man <3 all 3 pieces, they each have their qualites that couldnt be molded into one. thanks for sharing these great pieces

[macqdor]

Awesome Job. Perfecto.

Great Work

[elnady]

amazing work:drool:
I like the best one is the first one :love:

[WJT]

nice
i had used Terragen but i not study it.
i just done one picture that it very simple in Terragen.
:applause:
http://www.sinoaec.org/gallery/other/img/2624.jpg

[paradisio]

You broke the rules FYI "2. One piece of art per thread"

Sorry I have to do this ever since I got moderated...

Lovely image though, something on the first one is a little off for some reason for me.

[Bliz]

They are good images but the scale of the water ripples in the first piece are far too big, like you've got a model landscape in a huge swimming pool.

[Soulcialism]

these are very nice pictures but i have one nitpick.. in the second one (mystical) i see no source for the rays hitting the ground. i see the break in the clouds and the rays coming through the breaks makes sense, but generally breaks in clouds cause the sky to come through, which would be lighter than the ominous dark clouds around it. i think making the sky not look so dark where the break is would make for a much more convincing picture.

however...if that is the whole mystical part...ignore everything i just said and carry on because it looks amazing otherwise =)

[mattregnier]

You've managed to get great results with the program. It's nice to see that everyone is really digging your work instead of saying terragen is similar to poser or bryce...and slamming you for using it :)

[Valkyrien]

I'm lovin the third one personally...;)

[Caininsin]

Wowy wow wow wow! Ooooooooh all the pretty colours.:applause:

[Salaadin]

:thumbsup:

[Mikhail]

Wow, that`s great!!!:thumbsup:
What package do you use?
Whoud you share your pro secrets?:rolleyes:

[Xilica]

dang that is some insanely sweet CG :beer:

[paradisio]

Just to show you that not everything in 3d costs 10000 dollars, terragen full version is technically free, but you can register to support.

[slime]

I'm sorry, but I don't think this is front page material (or expose). Nice renders, but nothing special.. I've seen a lot of better stuff done in terragen.
BTW, there were some mediocre stuff at expose. It was a shame, because the overall level of the artwork there was vert high! :)

[slaughters]

Originally posted by slime
I'm sorry, but I don't think this is front page material (or expose). Nice renders, but nothing special.. I've seen a lot of better stuff done in terragen.
BTW, there were some mediocre stuff at expose. It was a shame, because the overall level of the artwork there was vert high! :) 1) Pretty darn rude things to say.

2) I beleive you are wrong. This is front page material, showing some very striking images

3) It's OK for there to be better images somewhere. Most artists I know acknowledge that they can always improve and have seen others produce better images. How does this make the images shown here not, "front page material".

4) If you think you could do better at picking artwork to show in a bound volume, then you are free to pick and then publish one yourself.
BTW - Which ones did you think were "mediocre stuff" and what would you have shown instead?

P.S. Would you like to back up your "I've seen a lot of better stuff" comment with links to what you are talking about?

[Signal2Noise]

turx: Nice stuff. Terragen should pay you to use these for publicity.

slime: Whatever, dude. :rolleyes:

[HapZungLam]

Waaooo, you really know how to play lights. IT looks nice.

[slime]

Originally posted by slaughters
1) Pretty darn rude things to say.

2) I beleive you are wrong. This is front page material, showing some very striking images

3) It's OK for there to be better images somewhere. Most artists I know acknowledge that they can always improve and have seen others produce better images. How does this make the images shown here not, "front page material".

4) If you think you could do better at picking artwork to show in a bound volume, then you are free to pick and then publish one yourself.
BTW - Which ones did you think were "mediocre stuff" and what would you have shown instead?

P.S. Would you like to back up your "I've seen a lot of better stuff" comment with links to what you are talking about?
1) It's just my oppinion, nothing personal against anyone. It's ok to have a different oppinion, right? I wasnt rude. I said the images are nice.:annoyed:
2) cool. you think that way, I think this way. Vive la liberte.
3) I think that this is not front page quality comparing it with the stuff we see everyday in the front page. hint: look at the right and the left of the thumbnail.
4) I don't have any intention of publishing any book. I purchased expose and was great, but I think it was a shame that were some mediocre images. Thats my opnion.
I dont have the time to pick the book right now. If you are *really* interested to know, let me know and I will do it.

Let people have their own opinions.

[Ex Tessera]

I disagree with Slime, I think the composition and the use of light and color warrant the front page. Not technically perfect, but very good.

[Jezait]

WOW, and to think that this is free software used. Nice. :applause:

[jvan80]

these are great. i like the rays of light.

[manutara]

Don't know the program...but its look like Bryce...The images look nice...a bit to "Brycy" an CG for me, specially the rays of light...but nice... :hmm:

[pascal3d]

those light rays really have a powerful effect in your scenes. nice job.

[Pete Latrofa]

those light rays really have a powerful effect in your scenes. nice job.

[manutara]

Originally posted by Pete Latrofa
those light rays really have a powerful effect in your scenes. nice job.


Are you guys clones!!! :applause: :D

[slaughters]

Originally posted by slime
...I wasnt rude. I said the images are niceYou made negative comments, in a vague general way, and then offered no useful critique for the artist. If you do not like something in an image then mention what and suggest how it can be improved. That is called a critique. What you did was not a critique.

Let's examine your statements,

"I've seen a lot of better stuff done in terragen"
"there were some mediocre stuff at expose."
"It was a shame"

The only positive thing mentioned you then immediatly countered with a negative comment.

"Nice renders, but nothing special.. "

Nothing useful for the artist. Just bald, negative, personal opinon.

[slime]

Originally posted by slaughters
You made negative comments, in a vague general way, and then offered no useful critique for the artist. If you do not like something in an image then mention what and suggest how it can be improved. That is called a critique. What you did was not a critique.

Let's examine your statements,

"I've seen a lot of better stuff done in terragen"
"there were some mediocre stuff at expose."
"It was a shame"

The only positive thing mentioned you then immediatly countered with a negative comment.

"Nice renders, but nothing special.. "

Nothing useful for the artist. Just bald, negative, personal opinon.
Ok, you didn't find anything rude in my comment, so you complain about my comment, not being helpful to the artist.
Why don't you reply to all the fanboy comments then?

"Nice renders, but nothing special.. " is exactly what I think. Some fractal terrain, change some settings in the atmosphere, etc, and there it is. Is not realistic, it has the typical fantasy look that we have seen thousands of times in these kind of programs (bryce, etc). It is better than that, obviously. The guy who did it has good taste, but I can't see anything more. Therefore I said I don't think it is front page material.

If you are going to reply to all the comments that are not positive for the artist, you will have to go against the 95% of them. I would critique the image if it was some model, composition or design. What can I say here? Try another fractal seed for the terrain and change the atmosphere to ave more haze or something similar?
Come on...... :rolleyes:

By the way, I think will be better to continue talking about this outside this thread.

[Garma]

Originally posted by slime
If you are going to reply to all the comments that are not positive for the artist, you will have to go against the 95% of them.

C'mon dude! You know what he means! There are several ways to say what you want, yours is one not very tactical way. Consider: "Those are cool images, I like this, I like that, but they still have that typical terragen look, you could consider taking them in photoshop or (whatever you advice)". It's better saying something slightly different than you mean than hurting feelings.

There's one thing I learned from Expose and that is that it's the art that matters, not the tools and/or effort taken. You actually have to come up with creative ideas, that's the hard thing.

By the way I have to disagree with the "typical fantasy look" if bryce, Terragen, Vue 'd Esprit etc, I think the artist did a very good job in going around this.

[yeson]

Good!
I like.

[slaughters]

Originally posted by slime
I would critique the image if it was some model, composition or design. What can I say here? Try another fractal seed for the terrain and change the atmosphere to ave more haze or something similar?
Come on...... :rolleyes:I'm replying here because I am tired of seeing Teragen users slammed because of the software they use. I view it as a form of snobbery.

Art should not be judged based on the tool used. It's no more easy to make excellent images in Terragen than it is in any other software. Pick up Terragen and play with it. You'll find you can quickly make mediocre landscapes, but it takes skill to make good looking art.

P.S. Like you though I think we have beaten this topic to the ground, so this will be my last post on the subject.

[turx]

Wow! I saw myself on frontpage of CGTALK!!! I didn't expect to It's a real surprise for me! Thanks so much for this!

And thanks so much for all kindly thoughts and critiques about my works.

Fasty: I don't use Terragen's internal terrain generator. It's not good for terrain creations. I'm using some dem files and World Machine (a terrain generator program) to make my terrrains. Also combine function in terragen is very useful to create new terrain from a few older terrains.

easy: you're right about sky algorithm of Terragen. It needs some new functions (like using multiple layers)

Hostil Elektrod: Terragen has not multiple cloud layer option yet. So i don't have any choice to make clouds better.

Garma: I don't remember the time especially for this pieces but generally 3-4 hours are enough to create something like these pieces.

Soulcialism: Hehe that's the mystical part in this piece i think. When i show the source of light with all its brightness like in real life, it makes the clouds really bad.


Slime: thanks for sharing your opinions about my pieces.
I didn't pay $$$ to admins to be shown on frontpage. It's their choice.
I don't know what are rules of being EXPOSE and frontpage of cgtalk.
I just wanted to share my images with other people who are interested in computer generated pictures. If they liked or disliked, this is their opinions.

btw your opinions doesn't make me to delete your link from my favorites

Also I don't think that i would send to cgtalk any of my Terragen images again.

thanks to everyone again who has commented this thread.

[Fitharn]

That 2nd one would be a great wallpaper... can you render one @ 1280x1024? :D

[aQu]

Very good! Do you use any "real" 3dprogs, or just Terragen?

[paradisio]

Very good! Do you use any "real" 3dprogs, or just Terragen?

Wow, can you say elitist?

What is real to you? Full retail costing over 5000 dollars?

Get a grip

[slaughters]

Originally posted by turx
Also I don't think that i would send to cgtalk any of my Terragen images again. Sorry to hear that turx. You shouldn't let the reactions of a few scare you off from showing new images you make.

My gosh man. They have been published in a prestigious book and have made the CGTalk front page against many other talented artists images.

[kev_jenks]

i really dont know what everyone is going on about, to say that these images are amature at best would be an understatement. terragen can produce amazing results but these are not them. praising someones work because they 'tried hard' is stupid.

k:annoyed:

[mattregnier]

Originally posted by aQu
Very good! Do you use any "real" 3dprogs, or just Terragen?

As I've learned in the past from slamming particular apps users,

it's not the the brush you paint with, it's what you create with the brush is important

[slaughters]

[EDIT]
Thought better of replying to a spammer.

[kev_jenks]

if you cant face criticism then your in the wrong biz


k

[A_Makkai]

If this is a "pat in the back forum for estheticly impaired people":
Grate. I love it, there ALL my favorites, Cod you render out a 50 K version for me to print out so I can plaster th walls and sealing of my room!


But I dont think thats why you posted it. If you want my honest opinion; there a relatively pore attempt of image creation. Motivation:
Its way to saturated
It dose not look real, the clouds lack a feeling of thickness, the scale of the water is wrong.
It lacks detail in the shadow areas. To high contrast.
God rays look cheesy.
The Images have no foreground element and feel a bit flat.
They have no subject nor symbols in it.
BUT keep up the work, Try to come up with a message that you want to tell. Put some people in there, a foreground element, some ambient light. Make the image more then a cheesy train render.

Aron Makkai

[slaughters]

OK, Now I understand turx's desire to not post on CGTalk again. Comments like the above are just embaressing.

[Balusilustalu]

Slaughters:

For God's sake.. what are you, Turx' personal guardian angel? You've made your point (numerous times). Give it a rest and face the fact that there are people out there who do not agree with your personal taste for the arts.
You're advertising yourself as one of those people that always must have the last word. Not a exactly a habit to be proud of.

Turx probably learned something here from A_Makkai, kev_jenkins' and slime's replies. The fact that out there in the real world not everything is the rosey fanboy praise these forums are smothered by so often. More often than not one's work gets picked apart by art-directors, cg-sups and directors. And they won't gloss over their comments to avoid stepping on delicate little toes...

Better grow a thick skin fast!

[slime]

I think everyone should have their own opinions. That's great. Then the artist must choose which are the good ones. And in my opinion, the good ones are usually the negative ones(not all of them, of course), because you can learn more from them.
Anyway, after trying to found better images than this made by terragen, I couldn't. I looked at them once more and I still think the same ( A_Makkai explained it very well), but I also think these are maybe the best terragen images I've seen.

turx: to stop posting images is not a good idea :) Obviously a lot of people thinks this is front page material, and that is because the images are good! Keep working and improving. (btw, your web page has some great design :))

cheers!

[slime]

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[H3x]

those are remarkable. great job.
:thumbsup:

[Dj.Kopito]

Woooooooooooow.....
Its beautiful, cool, nice and BEST pictures....

:eek:
:buttrock:
:drool:

[cel]

I love the way you used the light in your work. It is very divine like. Great style and feel. Congrats on Expose. Cel:buttrock: :buttrock:

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