V11 Hair

[odinseye2k]

I think the only issue with v11 hair I've heard pop up so far are limitations on collisions, which is currently being discussed between Hash and some of the testers. A fully open forum (i.e. bug discussions allowed) was finally created for discussion of the alpha and beta software, which will hopefully get more of the issues ironed out.

As for the earlier concerns, I've found A:M to be pretty solid (although I do whack Ctrl-S every 30 seconds and flip Mr. Murphy the bird) and creasing is pretty well assuaged by the new version of the porcelain material. An even more advanced porcelain would be nice, but this one gets the job done, and even hides most 5-CP patches quite nicely. Combined with biased surface normals it is quite effective.

Of course, as you've noticed on this forum, people's mileage varies greatly.

[zandoria]

http://www.hash.com/am2004/OrangutanHairN.jpg

The new hair controls look very promising! This is an image that Randy Croucher posted in the Alpha forum

[Zaryin]

I'm still having a hard time getting over the new hair features that will be in. Changing the color along the length and sublte hair coloration throughout, tapering, grooming... it's going to be great just for that.

I still wish they would get the bugs in 10.5 ironed out, but I can't deny that hair in v11 is going to rock.

[detolleme]

A couple of years ago, I put in a feature request that there be a way to control the angle at which the hair emerges from the patch surface (rather than just being perpendicular).

Does the new hair have a feature like this?

D.

[zandoria]

yes there is a grooming mode, so that you can style guide hairs that control how the surrounding hair grows.

[Zaryin]

Now all they need is translusency maps :).

[My Fault]

Yeah, being able to change hair color, transparency, thickness, etc along the length of the shaft, is huge. Now they just need to work on the interface to do these things. Having to do them in the timeline is way too kludgy. I'm sure they'll clean it up though. Awesome.

[LT Fox Fire]

Could I upgrade from 9.0 to 11.0 or 12.0? 12.0 is not out yet but I was waiting for the hair rendering to develop more before I upgraded my 9.0 to what ever. So a straight 2 or 3 version jump, can it be done?

[JTalbotski]

Yes, you can upgrade from v9 (2002) to v11 (2004)when it comes out. Or v12 which will come out in 2005. It will still only cost the same $99.

Jim

[LT Fox Fire]

Thank you very much. Then I'll wait a year or less until v12 comes out. Just hope it works for win 98, if not then it's time to upgrade.

[zandoria]

http://www.zandoria.com/castaway/mascot.jpg
experiment with V11 "feather" hair

[Goon]

:surprised shebwong!!! what is the render time hit?

[zandoria]

renders really fast! this was just a progressive render, about a minute...

[JTalbotski]

Wow! William, that is very cool! Great use of the new hair system. How well does it animate? Is there much intersecting of feathers?

Jim

[zandoria]

I haven't rendered an animation yet. There is a bug in rendering to a file in alpha 2 (messing up my color map on the face), but I will do some more experimenting with alpha3.

Thanks for the feedback:blush:

[Zaryin]

I like it. I just wish there was a little more detail to the feathers.

[zandoria]

you can add an image to the hair, but I haven't done it yet, but I may.

[Zaryin]

Will, add that image! :). I wan't to see what it looks like then. It's great now, I just want to see it with more detailed feathers.

[3DArtZ]

I must admit that this new hair feature is one of the coolest things that Hash has added to the software. I'm totoally backing it.
Niiiiiiice work William
Mike Fitz

[zandoria]

Originally posted by Zaryin
Will, add that image! :). I wan't to see what it looks like then. It's great now, I just want to see it with more detailed feathers.
Zaryin, I just tried a feather image, but I preferred the simpler look since this character is cartoony.

I'm hoping that they will add different map types for the image--much like decals and patch images--that would make some nice scales if you had bump and specular maps...
http://www.hash.com/am2004/Feathers.jpg
this is a picture that Randy Croucher posted on the HASH forum showing some chicken feathers using the image property.

[Bugle]

An application of that feature to generate leaves on trees springs to mind... Interesting.

[npcrosby]

I just purchased the latest version of AM. I am playing around trying to figure things out. My question ... how do you create "feathers"? The images posted here look great. I would like to be able to do similar. I would appreciate any tips that could point me in the right direction.

Thank you.

nicholas crosby

[zandoria]

this feature is still in alpha testing....It will be a while before it is part of the regular release version

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