Enchanted Forest - Envir +Char(s) - dobermunk - T

[dobermunk]

http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/tree1.jpg
Foregot: here's the hyper-realistic blueprint for the oak saplings ;-)

[leigh]

:eek: I swear I thought your sketch was actually a photo for a moment. You must be kidding :surprised That IS a photo, hey? There is no way that is a sketch, man....
hehehehe
Cool idea :thumbsup: Really cute concept :) That little mouse almost looks perverted though - can't really say why, he just does.... :surprised
But I'm looking forward to seeing these characters modelled! It's tricky to get this kind of cuteness in 3D... Good luck!!

[dobermunk]

Yeah, this is the first level sketch kinda mode: anything goes!
No client here, so I'll jump right to 3D work :-}

Otherwise I'd work out more detailed sheets in photoshop for the okay. I've already got the mouse mostly done. Screen shots by tonight!

About the mouse being perverse: he is. He's been chief creative at an advertising agency and has finally fallen over the edge!

Here's a mugshot of him discussing the impossibilities of selecting only a limited number of eager mousette internships while wine-battling with profit-minded clients more interested in the evening's excursions than with the content of their billion dollar cheese campaign. Yes, he's had too much of the enchanted forest.

:airguitar

[leigh]

*squeak?*
:surprised

Hey your model is looking so cool!! ::applause:

That billion dollar cheese campaign....ummmm..... :surprised ??
Okaaaaaaaaaaaay........

[dobermunk]

hehe... =')

Okay, maybe it was only in the 2 digit millions...
unfortunately there's no violin-playing smiley, yet.:wip:

[dobermunk]

The maus, unposed.

[hypercube]

Cool mouse! Very cute, very quick :) ..kinda has the stuart little vibe on the face.

Cool idea, too..for some reason the sketch makes me think of twice upon a time..dunno why. Anyway, nifty keen :D Can't wait to see how this comes out..

[visualboo]

This is a pretty cool idea. I like the concept sketch. Dont loose interest and keep goin. :bounce: :bounce:

Yeah, I was gonna say something about stuart little but that's probably just because he's a mouse :)

[ZrO-1]

I really love this concept. It's so playfull and suggestive at the same time. It reminds me of some of the "Merry Melodies" cartoons where as a kid it's just slapstick fun, then if you see it as an adult it's like "whoa, hello" is this the same cartoon? :surprised .

As far as your wook so far: I like the layout of your sketch. I love the happy/perverted look to the mouse's face. Actually all of the facial expressions in the sketch really show the character's mood at the time very effectively. The modeling looks really good too. I'm guessing that since you gave a pink texture to the mouse's skin you will be adding fur to it in a photo-real style?

Great work so far! I think this one's going to be great. :thumbsup:

[dobermunk]

Wow. Thanks for the comments.

Yeah, the word 'enchanted' for me has that kind of perverted duality between innocent childhood and adult perversion. I think something darker (like Leigh's entry) is less 'enchanted' for me than it is 'mysterious', 'magical' etc.
I know its just word nitpicking, but I surprised myself with the 'suggestive' element of it. Creeped up from inside, so to speak.

And you're right. I'm working on the fur as we speak. (As well as the pose.)

visualboo: I think of Stuart, too - now that you mention him. With in the realms of cartoonish realism, I think, a mouse will remain a mouse. But once I get the guy filled with personality, I think he won't look anything more than a distant cousin ;-)

[visualboo]

oh I wouldn't even sweat the stuart thing. He doesn't even look that much like him.

[Mike Pauza]

Like the "kiddy friendly" concept.

[Tennis]

great start :thumbsup: , i'll keep an eye on this thread.

[dobermunk]

So, all you kiddies!!
I'm multitasking the mouse and the faerie now - with interruptions for those irksome things like work and family 8*)

Here's my fur in development - a word of thanks to the great guys at www.worley.com!!



http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/mausFur.gif

[dobermunk]

Hooboy. Got swamped today - but I still managed today's update!

Here's our hero. Blinking!

[dobermunk]

Forgot to mention: this is an openGL screen shot.
Did the vmaps yesterday, the hair will be colored by them - that's why the edges on the hands aren't that nasty - though I intend to color the arms a bit to balance it out.

[KOryH]

CUTE!
can I have one?

[ZrO-1]

Man, that's cool. This piece is going to be awesome when it's done.

[dobermunk]

Jus' woke up - hopefully my other job will be over today. Then - with the exception of a World Cup game or two - no interruptions for the weekend!

Oh wait - that's my wife calling ;-)

[Joebount]

Originally posted by dobermunk
Jus' woke up - hopefully my other job will be over today. Then - with the exception of a World Cup game or two - no interruptions for the weekend!

Oh wait - that's my wife calling ;-)
We all have the same problems budy ! :scream:

Really very very very cute ! I also want one of them !!!

[dobermunk]

Hehe... maybe that's why I went for 'cute' - even my wife wants me to finish it!

[lildragon]

LOL!! had to reply, my girlfriend saw him blink and she was like ohh he's cute :D heheh nice job man and that's a great pose... ben watching Stuart Little lately? hehehe

I'll keep an eye on this thread ;)

cheers

[Equinoxx]

oh gawd, that's SOOOOO cute . . .

hehe I gota get me one o those for sure . . .

[leigh]

Oh my god, he is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTE!!!!!
You did a great job on his body, Dobermunk :thumbsup:
He is going to be so gorgeous when he is finished :love:

[dobermunk]

wow. thanks.

-> Leigh: remember those cheese billions! Your sword's in for overtime :beer:

thanks everyone. really makes me want to get home from work and continue! (I did get called in)

[hypercube]

haha, that's awesome. :D Aaaawwwwww:love:

he's great. You're definitely getting the feel and expression of the sketch there. That's the kind of face that could make cheese billions.

[dobermunk]

btw - can someone tell this "veteran" where i make a picture under my name?

I tried under settings -> change avatar but it didn't work.
Thanks in advance

[ZrO-1]

At the very very tippy top of the web page you will see a button that is part of the frame around the orange banner, it says "profile".
Click on that, then in the new page click on the tab that says "edit options". On That new page scroll down to the botom and you can change your avatar.
:beer:

[pearson]

lol! That's great! Love the pose! The whole concept is hilarious! I can just imagine how cool it would seem to a little creature to "fly with the fairies", but now that he's caught one he has no idea what will happen next.

[high]

:bounce: so, what more he can do? Speak?

[dobermunk]

First off: thanks ZrO-1!
<-- (hope this works)

Second - sorry. I'm beat. This camper's off to bed.
TOmorrow!

high: who needs to speak when you can squeek!
Mouses have been certain that theirs is the superior mode of communication since moles have been blind. But then, mouses are a high-nosed lot...

;-) 'night all!

[Tottebias]

Cutest thing I ever saw! Will keep an eye on this thread.

[dobermunk]

I have a habit of eating desert before dinner - in case any of you were wondering why I jump in and do the mouse before anything else is even started ;-)

So, here I've backpeddled and done step 1. If you're wondering why heRo's eyes suddenly close, well - put it down to stupidity - I deleted the morph target - not good.

Anyway, here's the gif. BTW let me know if these gifs are interesting or if they're just bulky.

http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/making_composition1.gif[/URL]

Also, I finally had some time to cruise more of the entries: 2D as well as 3D. All I can say is: hot damn!
The cgTeam should seriously think about publishing a collective book or calendar (though I haven't seen any winter forests :-)

Sure as hell beats "digital beauties" as far as the idea is concerned...

[ZrO-1]

Dober, I like your gifs. I think having the steps animated sort of shows the workflow more effectivly than posting a long series of pics with lenghy explanations for each. With the gifs you can see what was done and when. If anyone asks you could always post a higher-res still for details.

It sounds like you have gotten a bit of my luck.:rolleyes: Don't you just love it when you delete or loose something you REALLY didn't want to loose and do over. :p

[dobermunk]

Small update. Things are hairy.

I've started on the faerie - her upper body and the wings.

[Sangotten]

That's looking totally awesome!!!

The mouse is freaking cute and I believe the fearies will be looking stunning too!!!

Great job and I'm really looking forward to this one!!!!:thumbsup:

[dobermunk]

Thanks!
I'm really burning to get this finished - me wants to rub elbows with all the other great work being done here.

Damn them pesky clients!

.Sangotten - seems some stuff isn't working on your site yet,
the gallery links seem to be wrong.

[dobermunk]

Minor steps. Here the beginnings of a tree - no foliage yet.

[dobermunk]

ANd a close-up of the rootball.

[ZrO-1]

I love your step-by-step Gif's. I think they are a great idea. The tree model looks solid and that texture looks great! Your piece is going to be phenominal when it all comes together. It'll definetly be one I DL onto my disk (as long as you're cool with that :p ).

[dobermunk]

Download! Grab!
I'll also post things like the mouse fur settings when I have them tweaked.

[dobermunk]

Jumping around alot here, cause I'm doing this literally during free moments. Here's a gif of the faerie in progress.

I just started doing it and its coming out like Max Parrish (or whatever his name was). I'm not sure if I like it like this right now - too heavy for a faerie, but then - that might be nice to have a very traditional faerie...http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/faerieBau.gif

[hypercube]

Cool! Once again, neat seeing the stages..would never have thought to build 'up' like that..very interesting. Would have to see with the head and arms, but I think the proportions work pretty well now..but then I'm not a kate moss fan :D Makes me want to go back and work on mine.

Trees are looking groovy as well, love the matching rooty bit underneath.

Keep 'em coming :thumbsup:

[Facial Deluxe]

Impressive style & technique....

[dobermunk]

slowly but surely....
just when you really start doubting yourself the computer spits out an image that fires you up again. This is just a test, but I hope you like it as much as I did.

[dobermunk]

... and the back:

[Tottebias]

Looks really nice! Perhaps I would do the wings a little bigger.

[Facial Deluxe]

Me love it...

[GrAnt]

Looking real nice! Not sure if you are interested, but on my fairy I added two extra little wings beneath the top ones. imho it looked nicer with 4 instead of 2...but thats just me :rolleyes:

Fabulous Work!!

[dobermunk]

Thanks, everyone!
Yeah, there's alot I'm unsure about right now.

She's looking so traditional right now that I'm still thinking about how to get the wings attatched at all. "Cover 'em up with leaves", was my first thought, but then I started thinking about exoskeletal platelets or something. That would speak for the little balnce wings like flies have.

Really like your approach btw, Grant: even thought about changing my fly wings to dragonfly wings...

[levin]

WAY COOL SPRITES!! i would like to get my hands on a model that nice

is that a falloff map? increasing it would look more magical.

[MonkeyBoy]

Oh, hey! You should be fired up! I don't know what it is, but there is something really cool about your fairy. Good stuff.

[pearson]

Looking good! I really prefer the first version of the hips/waist, though. The new one looks like a guy. Even if the girl isn't heavy, the hip bones shouldn't stick out so much, IMHO. I love the wing.

More, More!!:bounce: :applause:

[Scott Harris]

ah! butts!
:eek:

[xtrm3d]

david.!!!
es reicht jetz...!!!!
mein ego ist total runter...
das teill ist mega hammer geill
dafur gibt es 5 stern !!
:beer:
this stuff look too great ...
i go back to my logo/web stuff and give 3d up....
:thumbsup:


5 stars

christophe
www.xtrm3d.com

[ZrO-1]

For the most part your fairy looks fantastic!!! What a goregous render you got there. You're definetly doing something right :D I agree about the hips being a bit too narrow. Also I'd either make the single wings a teeny bit longer/larger or I'd add in secondary winglets. Right now the proportion of the wings to the body seems just a bit off.

I have decided I want to be you when I grow up :p

[dobermunk]

Wait til I git home, everyone! I've got a nice update,
your feedback has been very helpful:

- the hips are back to 'big-ol-butt' status!! Kate Moss adeiu!!
(and Pearson, thanks for spicing up this thread :scream: )
- the thighs are thicker, too
- 'big-'ol-butt' means bigger wings ;-)
- gave her a vmap, yes - she has dark nipples!!

Now, maybe I'll even get some clothes on her!!

P.S. Chrisophe: thanks! But maybe you should think about becoming a football star - your country needs you!!:D

[dobermunk]

I'm home!

And here she is:
http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/feeSpin_01.gif

morer soon (maybe tonight, maybe not - my wife has been trying to convince me I need to study more anatomy ;-)

[KOryH]

mmmm
very nice!

[Tottebias]

That is just beautiful. Really have nothing to critisize. Love your animated gifs by the way.

[pearson]

Mmmm, yummy! I really like the new hips! That doesn't look like a big ol butt to me. Looks great! :applause:

[Sangotten]

That looks awesome!!!

Truly a great model, just like your mouse/hamster...!!! I dying to see the other fairy!!!...

Damn you are a great modeler....:beer:

[hypercube]

Hoo-ha! :love: She's amazing. You rock. I don't think that butt is big at all, it's just right. Hell, that's one of the nicest people I've seen, pixie or not. Could we get some closeups? Looks like a lot of subtle stuff going on there, and would like to..um..ok, gotta go. :drool:

Really looking forward to the rest of this..now we know what the mouse is on about :D

[Iguiniz.X.]

:p Yea right, more anatomy!?!?!:rolleyes:
This but is looking a hole lot beter. more female.
:drool: Gorgeous man:applause:
I love to see them in compostition soon and as Hypercube
( 4D cube?!!?) asked , could you give us some closeups?
especially the hand. O and I would like to see the feet ( were your mouse is hanging on )I can't see them really good.
:wavey:

[ZrO-1]

ooooohhhhhhh mmmmaaaaaaaannnnnn.......
That is a great texturing job. It looks so realistic. I really hate these low res requirements...is the pixie blinking as she spins away from the camera? I can't make out any of the details of her face with that pic. What I can make out I love. The modeling looks great, the proportion is fantastic, the textures seem right on. I guess I'm just a glutton in wanting to see some more closeup stills to get some details.

[dobermunk]

Hi everyone - and thanks for the comments.

Hope to get some of the pose and detail work done soon.

ZrO-1: she's kind of surprised/irritated, the one in the background is alarmed

Iguinix: The faerie really isn't modelled for close-ups, hehe :shrug:

pearson: your robot is great!

KOryH: I hope the shading / composition works as well as your piece in the end! 3D is a pitfall in that way- its a lot easier to just swab a lighter element in somewhere just because you need it there and then decide what it is and do details...

[AJ]

Damn...

This is shaping up far too well for my liking!

Forget winning, it's going to be a bitch to vote on this challenge!

Your doing your original design complete 3D justice (pretty rare), everything you've done so far has been exceptional.

Can't wait for that final shot!

:D

[PedramK]

First that rodent
and now the fairy

mate, how much more you got under your sleeve?
WUNDERBAR! :D

[AJ]

He's wearing a WonderBra?

:surprised

:p

[SirManfred]

Really great!
Did you use any reference for the rest of the body? (Excluding the butt)

[dobermunk]

Sir_Manfred: various picures I've collected, but nothing concrete. Those wenches from pearson definitely helped with the hips.

AJ_23: I don't even dream of winning this one - too much quality from all kinds of directions. To be honest, I think the concept on mine is too standard to hold against some of the more daring pieces.
But its fun, I'm with it - and I want in on the cgGallery!!!!

PedramL: Yeah, he's got a wunderbare wonderbra! It's stuffed in his enchanted jockstrap and full o' dutch cheese. (Somebody stop me. But not Leigh ;-)

In case some of you are wondering why I'm not updating more often, I thought I'd excuse myself visually: here's one of the endless pieces I'm doing for an agency now.

[Reo]

hey I'm liking where this is going keep it up I'd like to see more......

hey heres an idea for you......tribel tattoos????

think about it ......later .......oh yah keep it up

[Gamoron]

Could you check out my thread please. Your work is great and I need some help.

http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=90254#post90254

[Bezerker75]

Wow!! love the mouse and farie...can't wait to see them together!! outstanding modeling job...love the animated gifs:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[dobermunk]

http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/020618_wip.jpg

So, I'm not happy and there's loads to be done - but this is today's stet of things. The elements are coming together - I should have done clothing before posing but *&$@! it.

MMmM. G'night!

[SirManfred]

Holy #%&¤!! You rule man! You fecking rule! :eek:

Keep it up good fellow! :buttrock:
Cant wait for next update! :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

[ZrO-1]

Very cool bro! But on the next pic I'd have the ground colored differently. In that last pic (I know its a WIP) the ground and mouse textures became so close in the JPEG compression that the mouse almost seems transparent. Other than that it's really looking friggin awesome. It's staying extreemly true to the original sketch and it's looking really great.

P.S. Thank you thank you thank you for not putting clothes on the fairy :drool: :D hehehe

[Gamoron]

dobermunk, it's looking fantastic. And I want to thank. You're animated modelling gif has helped out a lot so far.
:thumbsup:

Thanks again and for inspiring:buttrock:

[pearson]

LOL, I thought the mouse was transparent!

What are you going to put in the background? I mean, if all the trees are jumping out of the ground...?

Love those tree roots!:thumbsup:

[MonkeyBoy]

yeah man, it's starting to look bloody fantastic. Can't wait to see this one finished. Keep it up!

ps. You need to look at the way the mouse is grabbing her foot, but no doubt you are aware of that. :)

Dude.

[WiltedEnds]

truely lovely work...i really like the piece..it reminds me very much of a Salvador Dali work...called The Temptation of Saint Anthony...a truely astonishing piece...i love your work..keep it up

http://dali.karelia.ru/images/works/1946_01.jpg

[Facial Deluxe]

Outstanding !Amazing ! You rule !

[Sangotten]

Yep I was right, you're amazing!!!

Damn the fairy looks really good and so does the enviorment allthough I think lot's should be changed and added (lighting, background, cloths...).

anyway, I love it!!!:thumbsup:

[Kaos]

:love: WOW :love:

[dobermunk]

thanks for all the comments. I'm gonna hafta close this thing sooner than I'd hoped - see how far I get...

- monkeyboy: yerright, haven't started that yet, tyhe fairie isn't posed completely, she needs more twisting. And she's not setup, that's all morphed, so ...

- pearson: the mouse is NOT tr nsp r n . ..

;-)

- wilted: cool! I like Dali's work, never thought about it in this piece, though. More Maxwell.


The Scene:
-gotta work something out with fog. Want to fill in the trees, too, so that they seem to go on into a real thick forest (or at least much deeper)
- lighting, hooboy
- clothes and hair for the fairie
- ground texture, maybe some puddles and those airshrooms...

back to work work...

[dobermunk]

well, I think if I could start over I would do a 2D background, though somethings are exciting like the cheaply polygon leaves, I would be more consequent if I could start over...

oh well. Hard to judge how much time you'll have for these challenges. I'll now be working on the front figures, using this render as a bg image for faster rendering...

[ZrO-1]

Man, dober...
That background looks really cool! I like the lighting and softness you have going on. I'm not crazy about the ground, but the rest looks fantastic.

[dobermunk]

I doubled the one teexture on the ground, kinda cheesy - but I need to get the figures started... I'm not really happy with it either.

[ZrO-1]

hehehe I LOVE the scene with all the characters in. Every time I see the fairy with the mouse hanging on I laugh. It's really a great piece you have made so far. The idea is fantastic. LOL

[Facial Deluxe]

You must be joking !
Hey ! you made us salivate watching your awesome work, and you post THAT size pic ?
Wake up the computer, turn on the Mhz, and give us some decent size pic that we can stare at....

Please, please...

[leigh]

Wow that is looking AWESOME!! :applause: :applause:
BUT NOW GIVE US A BIGGER RENDER DAMMNIT!!!!!

[dobermunk]

What do you say?:shame:

[hypercube]

To paraphrase the wolf,

Please. Pretty please. With sugar on top. Now give us the @#$%ing picture. :D

[dobermunk]

Hehe.
Sorry.:beer:

I'm at a client's.

When I get home I'll put up something bigger. I promise ;)

[winged-cat]

Was it just me, or did anyone else notice the Fairie being reflected in the background plate??

btw - this is awesome work - something I only aspire to do at this time.

...Pete

[Koma]

great scene ,he he wonderful job:thumbsup:

[ZrO-1]

LOL! hey Winged-cat, thet's not a reflection. If you take a look at the concept sketches at the begining of the thread you'll see that there are two fairies in the piece. hehehe silly cat :p :D

[winged-cat]

WHOOPS... :rolleyes: yes looking back at the concept art I do see the other Fairie (with the '!') - It hadn't shown up yet in the progression, I totally forgot about it.

Guess I thought it was a little EasterEgg type thingy... 'surprise'... oh well... I'm sure it will start looking more distinct as the wonderful modeling job continues...

(also, a larger image <wink wink> would show the differences in poses better...)


...Pete

...ah, back to my stick figures...

[dobermunk]

Sorry, don't mean to be a tease :hmm:

Didn't make it home til late....

[dobermunk]

http://www.stickman.de/content/gallery/G_wip/pics/enchanted/020626_wip.jpg

Don't think I love the ground texture or anything. I'm afraid I won't be able to patch things up that much before the challenge ends, but now the 2nd faerie is lit (a bit) hehe...

Next in line is the faeries: styling, doo etc. That's the biggest gap. These challenges are fun, but I really need a vacation to be able to participate like I'd want to...

[Gamoron]

Well whether or not you have the time, I think you're creating a fantastic image. Though I do agree that the ground's texturing could use some work. When was the last time you took a look at your original sketch? To me it suggested that the foreground was shadowed and the background was lit. I don't know where I'm going with that, except maybe you can get some inspiration for texturing the ground from the sketch. What's wrong with grass?
Anyway it looks gorgeous especially the faeries. And I just want to thank you again dobermunk, your method of modelling helped alot.
:thumbsup:

[OZ]

WOW|! :eek: INCREDIBLE IMAGE HERE! u really amaze me..........5 stars! (i love voting good threads!!)

[MikaelPersson]

So funny. Your sense of humor is absolutely wonderful.
And the expression on his face. HAHA. I think you could get freudian for less.

[ZrO-1]

Awesome bro!!! truly sweet character work. THis is a really great piece.

[dmcgrath]

Your final image should be a GIF also. Just use those animating blinking eyes on the hamster's face, but make the rest of the pic static. Way to go Dober!!!

[l_farley13_l]

Great job, some DOF will ceratinly help and maybe hide that ground - providing some nice layering. Can't wait to see the dames with some hair!

see you,

Farley13

[psumo]

great job
I just found this thread

I could it INCREDIBLE with more
texture and lighting work

I like the composition and motion
of the image

[dobermunk]

Arghgh. Missed the deadline.
I'll try to finish things and post in w.i.p. section...

[leigh]

Well, I think that last image there is brilliant anyway!!
Looking forward to seeing more in the WIP forum - your work is really excellent :thumbsup:

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