CGTalk - Character : The LAST DRAGON

Jjack

10-01-2003, 11:39 PM

i think the smoke between the girl and the other guys don't seems as detailed as the whole picture(je sais pas si je suis tres clair , en fait je trouve que ca la fumée fait moin realiste et plus cartoon que le reste)
otherwise i really like this illustration , good work

Shaykai

10-01-2003, 11:41 PM

I think he was going for the less detailed smoke and stuff. I personally like it a lot, lots of cross between anime and CG. Really good.

e338

10-01-2003, 11:50 PM

good mix and amazing breasts ;)

d4rk

10-01-2003, 11:55 PM

OMG :eek: I can't get over how really awesome this is! I stared at it for a long time to see if I could find anything that I didn't like. I can't though...

kr3ml

10-02-2003, 12:01 AM

Nice b00bs ;) :drool: :thumbsup:

erilaz

10-02-2003, 03:06 AM

It doesn't quite fit altogether visually, but the composition looks great. I especially like the Zelda-esque cloud work. The sword design and form is excellent. The woman is slightly TOO busty though. In my opinion.:)

Gumbercules

10-02-2003, 03:15 AM

wow, i really like this piece. Love the sword and the arrow through her leg looks cool. The pose is great too.

Great job:applause:

Flo.Y

10-02-2003, 10:11 AM

Well done Xav!
Do you understand English critics?! I used to know that your english is very bad?!...
Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiin!...
Bon, là n'est pas la question!...
Félicitation, Xav', c'est encore une belle réalisation... (it's quite a good work...), comme d'habitude (as usual...).
J'adore ton choix pour la fummée (I love the way you choose for creating the smoke...), ça donne un parti pris, très "Estampe"... (real "Estamp" style...)!
I hope you'll continue to produce good work, when you'll be away from QD...
Remember us...
(Dedicated to Demis R)

Bye...

Flo, (bilingual DDDgraphist...)

ceql

10-02-2003, 10:57 AM

Whoa, awesome! :applause: Best image I've seen all week :D

How much of the image is 2D and how much is 3D? It's so well integrated that I thought it was a 2D piece until I noticed that it was in the 3d section of ur site! Can we see more renders of the characters? ;)

xavier-marquis

10-02-2003, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by ceql
Whoa, awesome! :applause: Best image I've seen all week :D

WOW :)

Thx all.

I'm posting a few screenshots so that you can estimate the proportion between 2D and 3D. My purpose is still the same, I'm not pro 2D either 3D but I just want to to the image in itself.

The first modeling and composition is in speed paint.
http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/the_last_dragon_planche.jpg

xavier-marquis

10-02-2003, 08:13 PM

All maps are worked in speed paint style to make a better fusion between photoshop and maya.
http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/the_last_dragon_map.jpg

The final wireframe before the render under mental ray :
http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/the_last_dragon_wireframe.jpg

koroko

10-02-2003, 08:19 PM

This is amazingly beautiful, nice, and unique style...

The idea of using speedpainting2d like as textures is great....

I have no critics, i just love it...

look like 5 stars to me

agreenster

10-02-2003, 09:17 PM

The only thing that looks strange to me is where her hair comes out of her headband thing. Looks like the hair is chunky....

Other than that, despite the fact that she has monolithic boobs, this is very nice looking. And yes, the first thing I thought of too was Zelda's clouds....which isnt necessarily a bad thing.

infi

10-02-2003, 10:29 PM

nothing I could ever crit ^^, only one thing though, if you extend the image on the left and render in an higher resolution, this would make a perfect wallpaper.
I already used one of your images as a wallpaper before :thumbsup:

dav.bel

10-02-2003, 10:56 PM

Ohhh !!!!! Comme toujours du tres bon boulot. Le melange 2D, 3D est exelent, rien à dire à par ......terrible!!!!!
:thumbsup:

Goatfuzz

10-02-2003, 11:11 PM

Awesome! Looks like front page quality to me. :beer:

elzero

10-03-2003, 01:04 AM

This is FREAKING amazing! :surprised Great work! Love the composition. What a great idea to intertwine the old japanese art with outstanding 3d.

Once again . . . bravo.

BTW, I second infi's recommendation, to post a render which could be used as wallpaper.

Oh, yeah, nice website. Very nice concepts. Will we ever see the continueing saga of Forest of Life? Hope soon.

Keep up the good work.

Beastie

10-03-2003, 05:23 AM

Man that image is hot! :drool: Nice work and thank you! :thumbsup: new desktop!

xavier-marquis

10-03-2003, 09:30 AM

thx for all replies

I prepare and upload a wallpaper tonight :)

another screenshot to wait : http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/the_last_dragon_wireframe2.jpg

TheGreenGiant

10-03-2003, 09:45 AM

okay. I thought this was an old thread bumped up!

click = WHOA!

THat first image of the scene, with the chick and that stunning cloud/swirl look.. what can I say, this forum has lots of stunning photoreal stuff and yet time and time again, its the pieces of work with that artistic touch (this and efferendi by Guowei) that really hammer home the beauty of CG. Its not about creating/replicating reality, its about doing something beautiful

5 stars from me.

:applause: :applause: :applause:

safakoner

10-03-2003, 12:42 PM

nice work

geron

10-03-2003, 12:46 PM

silicone boobs :annoyed: ...I prefer naturals :)
just kidding..very good work..thanks for sharing

Garma

10-03-2003, 12:50 PM

Yea when I first saw this I thought it would go strange if this shouldn't make frontpage and now :beer:

congrats

roald

10-03-2003, 12:57 PM

WHOA!! Thats one HUGE sword!!

Amazing!:D

Twincruiser

10-03-2003, 01:02 PM

You had me completely fooled...at first I thought it was a 2D piece...but you have managed to get the mix just right. I really like the different elements in this piece...the sword...the perspective...the foggy background. Quite a stunning piece indeed!

10-03-2003, 01:06 PM

Very nice illustration. Mood, colors, composition :buttrock: it's all very stylish. I like the bad guys' design too.

lukx

10-03-2003, 01:18 PM

Hot BABE! :thumbsup:

10-03-2003, 01:29 PM

YA ROX!:buttrock: :buttrock:

elvis75k

10-03-2003, 01:37 PM

A W E S O M E :scream: I like to see the maya interface around these amazing works!! :lightbulb MAYARULES

vizion

10-03-2003, 01:40 PM

Great job man.

Is-boset

10-03-2003, 01:43 PM

breathless, i love the chara and the composition, i want a wallpapaer from this.:thumbsup:

PascalR

10-03-2003, 01:43 PM

Great job!
Bravo c'est superbe, j'adore:love: :love:
Keep up the great work

Pascal

xtrm3d

10-03-2003, 01:56 PM

je me prostern devant une aussi belle splender .. tant dans la realisation que oar l´idee

:beer:

my last thread :
http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91686

sebek27

10-03-2003, 01:57 PM

amazing work ! did you switch from Max to Maya ? why ? you modeled this using polys ? doesn't Max have better poly tools ?

Windmill

10-03-2003, 02:20 PM

I like this picture alot. That sword is HUGE (no complaints here), which is only fitting to match her equally HUGE tits (no complaints here either) :p :eek: :D

mage111

10-03-2003, 02:45 PM

really wikkid piece, i lvoe the colors used on the main character, and how you used less eye catching colors on her attackers, the housing seems a little repeticious, but it doesnt bother me, i like the fact you went into that much detail to show it.
the only thing the boggles me is the arrows, maybe they have meaning but im not sure what they are.

or is there any?

Either way, great piece, Good work :-)
<3

chikega

10-03-2003, 02:49 PM

Very beautiful illustration - my only very humble critique is that, at first glance, she appeared to be tied up to a post and not holding a sword. Only after reading other posts did I realize that it was a sword.

reptil

10-03-2003, 02:58 PM

:thumbsup: very very wonderfull 5 etoiles

Peter Reynolds

10-03-2003, 03:23 PM

yes, I've seen your site before Xavier.

You are a natural.

How are you enjoying maya for mac?

Wonderer

10-03-2003, 03:27 PM

Wonderfull piece! Very interesting detail that dragon claw over her left breast:thumbsup: :eek:

Kid-Mesh

10-03-2003, 03:30 PM

Totally Rad :thumbsup:

I thought I was good at judging style and interperation but this piece fooled the hell out of me. I swear I thought that the girl was a 2D image and the background was the only 3D element. But to my pleasant suprise the entire piece was done in 3D...Bravo sir you have mad skillz!

-KM

sixthe45

10-03-2003, 04:02 PM

Some nice stuff you got here. :eek:
The blend and feel are top notch :applause:
Good work keep it up. :thumbsup:

cuse

10-03-2003, 04:03 PM

Bugger,... and ppphhhhwwwwwwwwaaooor ;)

hehe, she's hot and the style is awesome!

Great work, as is the stuff on your site.
(many new backgrounds, cheers :))

cuse

Fred Heys

10-03-2003, 04:10 PM

that is a fine setup, the 3d/2d mix are well laid down.....congrats all the way!

Ndru

10-03-2003, 04:10 PM

:annoyed: hey, i think i know this boobs, hehehe j/k :D

:thumbsup:

tsuru

10-03-2003, 04:11 PM

guzabie maruki <-- her name I assume?

(pronounced gu-za-bi-eh for the curious)

d_hansbury

10-03-2003, 04:22 PM

it also amazes me how many people take the time to model the nipple bumps in the fabric...good to see great attention to detail.

seantree

10-03-2003, 04:29 PM

awesome piece. i know its been mentioned before but i dig the Zelda looking clouds. very well done.

rudipooimf

10-03-2003, 04:34 PM

I'd love to know where you did your research on merging CG and traditional art techniques, have been looking for some tutorials on that subject...thanks and awesome work!

e338

10-03-2003, 04:43 PM

rudipooimf , a question... by curiosity.
And in fact i ask it to everybody here:

Do you always have to know "HOW" it was made and "WHERE" to find a "METHOD" to do it?

Have you ever heard about something called "EXPERIMENTATION" ? They should told you that at school.

anyway, really good work but i've already said it.

BnE

10-03-2003, 05:18 PM

raaahhhhhhhhhh rahhhhhhhhhh

c'est genial!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! magnifissismique!
I love your piece of art!!!!!!!!!!!
want more want more! composition and colours are just incredible!
just perfect!
one thing, at first, i didn't notice the arrow she has in the leg at all.... maybe that it could be brighter(je sais pas si c le bon mot...) so people could understand immediatly that she's hurt... or maybe it's just me who is soooo tired that i just didn't see the arrow... :D
EXCELLENT WORK!

rudipooimf

10-03-2003, 05:31 PM

e338 i've already done my share of experimentation and theres nothing wrong with learning something in a different way based on someone elses experience if i'm not mistaken. Never know what you can pull out of another persons methodology or technique that might be beneficial. Next time i'll be sure to just say good job and not ask questions...thanks for your input.

cuse

10-03-2003, 05:41 PM

Hey i dunno but this sounds all a bit hostile, its a friendly community and im sure pretty much all of us here can learn something from the next person.

I do agree its a pain for people that are always asking for the quick answer and not experimenting, but chill, this is a cool piece and using a technique thats new to a lot of people im sure.

cuse

e338

10-03-2003, 05:58 PM

C'mon Cuse, don't play the fool with me.
You know whatta mean, don't you.
No hostility, i'm just kinda pissed of to read the exact same comments each time someone realizes a good pict.
just like if there was a (mel)Script to do it.
What about the man behind the machine? Who did the picture?
Is it maya, softimage or whatever?
Even a banana with make up can get the groove, if you know how to deal with it. Ask Aardman Studios...

For the "friendly community", i must have missed something. It can be friendly and in the meantime a place for... evolution?
Like growing up or something like that, and it's not by polishing shoes that you get bigger. Or at least, you become the best shoe-polisher, which can be a good thing.

Cheers

cuse

10-03-2003, 06:59 PM

Alright, you know what i agree with you... been a long week ;)

Just sounded a little harsh, though i dunno i havn't been reading too many posts here recently. I do totally agree on hating the kinda posting that seems like a prescripted, cut and paste reply... anyway, back to the champagne, its friday! :)

cuse

slime

10-03-2003, 07:06 PM

Great piece, but to me looks somehow unfinished.
The 2D doesn't integrate very good in the composition, and there is too much white (haze?) that makes it look like a poster with two different images (BG + main character).
The pose of the main character is a little weird too. She has a too relaxed look and too cute leg position for the arrow piercing her leg.
The best part IMO are the two "guys" on the background. Great dynamic poses . NIce outfits and shadows! :)

Good work, and thank you for showing us the process!!

(And I agree with e338, seems that some people wants to know the secret keys to produce the instant good artwork. I don't understand also why people want to know the used app, you can do whatever still image you want with any application, IMO...)

e338

10-03-2003, 07:21 PM

thanks gentlemen, glad you agree, feel a bit less alone.
i kiss you all, and go to eat.
Cuse, cheers!:beer:
Slime, yeah, what shall we look at, a 3d scene, or a picture? cheers too

rudipooimf

10-03-2003, 07:35 PM

I agree with what your saying e in that alot of people want the quick solution to creating great artwork. I wasn't lookin for that however, just an idea of where he did his research for it. I'm not askin him for his secret. Just what he already publicly found that maybe we can all benefit from, either way no skin off my arse...thanks.

phoenix

10-03-2003, 07:55 PM

very impressivve.....

e338

10-03-2003, 07:59 PM

i'm not here to play the bad guy dude.
I just thinks that ... well... pfff
That wasn't dedicated to you specially, even if, to be honest, your post inspired me such a reaction. la goutte d'eau, comme on dit.
Anyway, i would add that experimentations are the basis of this job. You can watch how people do their stuff, it's a way to see a method, but it won't give you the same freedom facing a problem for the first time. your know, the kinda reptilian brain solution.
The day you stop experimentations,... you're dead as an artist to me. Anyway, there is a plenty of other things to do in life.
Best whishes

KolbyJukes

10-03-2003, 08:19 PM

Great piece, however, it looks a bit unfinished...

Hopefully this thread will get back on topic.

-Kol.

Xinoz0r

10-03-2003, 08:31 PM

ooh god, that is just amazing... u seriously got skills dude... that scene roxx... WHOOOOHOOO, i finally got a new wallpaper ;D

Fitharn

10-03-2003, 08:32 PM

Very very nice. I really like the combination of styles here. Gotta admit tho that the image draws the eyes to a errr... certain point of focus ;)

HOON

10-03-2003, 09:05 PM

beautiful!

esoul

10-03-2003, 09:08 PM

man, totally awesome! ;)

xavier-marquis

10-03-2003, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by tsuru
guzabie maruki <-- her name I assume?

Hi Tsuru, it's my name and surname in japanese langage :)

Thanks a lot for all replies

As I told you, I send a little wallpaper

http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/tld_wallpaper_preview.jpg

The LAST DRAGON Wallpaper 1280 * 1024 (http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/tld_wallpaper_1280-1024.jpg)
The LAST DRAGON Wallpaper 1024 * 768 (http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/tld_wallpaper_1024-768.jpg)
The LAST DRAGON Wallpaper 800 * 600 (http://www.xavier-marquis.com/3d_artwork/the_last_dragon/tld_wallpaper_800-600.jpg)

khaleghi

10-03-2003, 09:31 PM

very nice work and so impresive.
I love it.:love:

gmoran

10-03-2003, 09:34 PM

wow man, that is totally freakin awsome!!!

I've never seen a style quite like it....I imagine there will be a lot of copyartists out there based on this work.

Amazing!!

Boristone

10-03-2003, 09:38 PM

Incredible work....my respects :bowdown:

R-SiN

10-03-2003, 10:54 PM

Amazing Work!:thumbsup:

hackie

10-03-2003, 11:02 PM

sweeeeet!!!
i like the Japainmation style you're going for.
and nice cartoonish~~ texture on her.
awesome dude!!1

ji.

delly

10-03-2003, 11:07 PM

Right Click -> Set as Background :applause:

awesome works, i love its painterly look :thumbsup:

behzad

10-03-2003, 11:45 PM

okay my eyes are popping out of their sockets.
Nice work. I see something else is popping out too.

:eek:

Caininsin

10-03-2003, 11:47 PM

Nice picture,I especially like the sword and its symbols. Well um the breasteses are nice too.:rolleyes:

d4rk

10-04-2003, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Xavier Marquis
As I told you, I send a little wallpaper...

Thanks! I just hope I don't get in trouble for using at work (or home) ;). It's very cool though!

I like the way you mix 2d and 3d, I'd love to see some animations in this style!

3bleadpencil

10-04-2003, 01:07 AM

this is awesome....small crit...............work on your anatomy proportions
regards
3B

Harissa

10-04-2003, 02:36 AM

I got only one thing to say: WOW! :buttrock:

Windex

10-04-2003, 02:42 AM

1. HABA HABA

2. "PERFECT"

3. if i only say "perfect" "SOME" people will get pissed, cuz they'll think it's a Fanboy response. but why would i repeat what everyone else said?

4. WHAT? NO CLOSE UP OF THE BOOBS FOR WALLPAPER????

comon man, you HAFTA (have to)

edit: i accidently hit tab then space

ionanism

10-04-2003, 03:37 AM

Wow! Yeah I have to agree with everyone, this is an awesome piece. I defiantly like it a lot, although the overly busty girl is a bit cliché. I like the 3D 2D combination, you made it blend together nicely. Defiantly like the arrow through the leg.

But there are a few things I will point out. (I don’t like just saying it’s cool don’t wanna be another “fanboy”…I feel the need to point out little things out, Although I kinda feel like I am nitpicking great work, I figure a little constructive criticism helps… nothing is 100% perfect, art is a subjective thing.)

1. maybe its just me but…It kinda seems like she is floating in the clouds, as appose to being high up on a hazy mountain top. I know it’s hazy and cloudy up there but maybe adding some small tufts of grass, rocks, or snow by here feet might help plant in to the ground better.

2. I might just be lame, but it couldn’t tell that there was a bunch of buildings down below…I thought they were trees at first, that’s not really a problem though, just me not being able to see.

Btw… did you hide the X symbol in the river on purpose, because you use that as you logo…if so nice touch.

Great work.

rayz

10-04-2003, 03:55 AM

excellent mix of 2d and 3d.

:beer:

the_zed_axis

10-04-2003, 04:24 AM

i think the boobs could be ssmaller (yeah right)

the camera angle is kinda awkward and the clouds jsut arent working for me but nevertheless a good piece of work
me luuuuv maya

rebo

10-04-2003, 05:13 AM

Brilliant, this is now my wallpaper.

PureFire

10-04-2003, 05:21 AM

mmm nice boobies :P~

H3x

10-04-2003, 08:34 AM

That model is amazing. Very inspirational. Keep it up. I especially like the japanese theme idea.

tomaya

10-04-2003, 10:53 AM

Awsome work, i love it !
Dis donc, Quantic dream, ça nous rajeuni pas tout ça...:beer:

Bravo!

10-04-2003, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by ionanism

1. maybe its just me but…It kinda seems like she is floating in the clouds, as appose to being high up on a hazy mountain top

huh I think she's really supposed to be on a cloud. Y'know, like sangoku in Dragon Ball .

Wilson-3d

10-04-2003, 04:50 PM

I think its a refreshing touch. A very original look. Sure we have seen the subject matter, but from your site -which I really like- that is one of your favorite topics in 3d. Also I enjoy reading what programs were used. I don't usually ask but sometimes scroll through to get the answer. Just curios I guess. I know it doesn't matter what program you use and there is no - now I have this program I will be great. I just like to see what is coming out of where. Keep up the good work!

future14

10-04-2003, 05:05 PM

first of all, gonna praise u for a great work dude, hehe, 3d + 2d, it can bring up those kind of Japanese characteristic, great approach man,

actually, recently i'm scratching my head for a Japanese Ninja (girl) chracter also, your character has brought me inspirations.......thankx....perhaps, keeeeeeepppppp on dude....

Zanmato

10-04-2003, 06:18 PM

One word, Awesome!:thumbsup:

Instantly reminded me of Cloud of FFVII with the huge sword. Like the style.

Cool wallpaper, got a cool desktop now!;)

stenarts

10-04-2003, 08:13 PM

Well the hell.....wow that´s really great!

STEN ;)

pearson

10-04-2003, 08:17 PM

Hmm...don't really like the melange of different styles...they don't seem to work together as well as they could. Perhaps a render with a little bit of toon shading? :shrug: I like all the pieces, just not how they mesh together.

Thanks for posting all those support pictures! Always love to see wireframes, camera setups, and texture maps! :applause:

ufo

10-04-2003, 08:32 PM

I like mix , I like your work !
2D & 3D is a good choose !

hanzo

10-04-2003, 09:13 PM

very cool peace it looks dreamy, and thats one sweet chick, thanks for posting new work dude..:thumbsup:

ninja noodle

10-05-2003, 01:41 AM

kick ass!!! :cool:

ionanism

10-05-2003, 06:08 AM

Originally posted by....Me...ionanism
maybe its just me but…It kinda seems like she is floating in the clouds, as appose to being high up on a hazy mountain top Originally posted by m@.
huh I think she's really supposed to be on a cloud. Y'know, like sangoku in Dragon Ball . That would explain it…

But from the 3 progress shots on the first page, it looks to me like she is standing on actual ground, but I could be wrong. Perhaps snow because of the huge footprint.

pascal_blanche

10-05-2003, 07:22 AM

hehehe nice job as always, Xavier, i did recognize your style at the first shot ;) keep it up!
how things are going?

skyboy

10-05-2003, 10:53 PM

amazing~~nice job:eek:

xavier-marquis

10-06-2003, 01:08 AM

Thx Pascal :)

tons of good things, perhaps a new job in amsterdam :) For some high poly.

I cross fingers.

Barc

10-06-2003, 05:24 AM

subarashi~
I love it. keep it up. :D

Jameslsy

10-06-2003, 06:16 AM

:buttrock: :buttrock:

What more can I say?

DAREONER

10-06-2003, 12:06 PM

tres original dans tes compos, beau boulot c est superbe !:thumbsup:

Matthew Moran

10-06-2003, 05:03 PM

This is soooo SICK! i love the tooney clouds , they give it a nice little touch. sweet character and rig looks pretty decent as well. Keep up the good werk

Garbaman83

10-06-2003, 07:45 PM

Nice image. I like the tits & the theme. I think the clouds' appearance don't match the rest of the image because they look more cartoony. The background has enough detail & should be emphasized more. Great job overall :)

xavier-marquis

10-07-2003, 11:30 AM

merci dareoner :)

La je suis parti dans une recherche de peinture hokusai, je vais essayer de trouver un nouveau traité pour la prochaine image.

Pascal : it's confirmed, i 'm going to netherlands :) yeepee

jugga

06-24-2004, 03:53 PM

Well browsing through the my pictures folder the other day i found this image hiden away in some random folder. It is now my background. I dont think i commented on it before xavier but i have to now. It is a wonderful image that has such a dynamic feeling, and i really must say kudos to you.

Anyway I had to bump this so all the new members get a chance to enjoy it just as much as i have :)

WQP

06-24-2004, 04:15 PM

Where is the picture??

xavier-marquis

06-24-2004, 04:42 PM

Here.. a little bit old now ;)

http://www.xavier-marquis.com/g/10.jpg

EdySusanto

06-24-2004, 05:48 PM

Nice work Xavier. I just figure out u r a japanese after reading all the post for this thread ^^ well, i cannot view the wallpaper version for this image :(

Busterblues

06-24-2004, 06:02 PM

Good job man!!
The clouds are beautiful!!
:buttrock: :thumbsup: :applause:

WQP

06-24-2004, 06:05 PM

Ah a stale link? :)

Now that I see it - looks great :)

xavier-marquis

06-24-2004, 09:10 PM

Nice work Xavier. I just figure out u r a japanese after reading all the post for this thread ^^ well, i cannot view the wallpaper version for this image :(

Sorry this pic is really old and I lost my wallpaper file :/