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jesse92
09-06-2010, 12:00 AM
Hello guys, a while ago , i asked opinions and advice about the art institues, well im going to "start" classes next month, well , i happened to pass by the gnomon school site, and i fell in love by the student work and succes stories, so... before going to its site, my plan was, going to the art institue of huston, and then my second year, move to the art institute of LA to be closer to where most of the industry busines is located, since the school credits are not transferable to other institutions, i would have to stick to The AI, anyway, now i think that it might be better, if i went to a community college to improve my traditional art, so i could be ready for the 2 year program at gnomon, however, so does this sounds like a better thing to do? also, Gnomon doesnt give you a degree right? does this affect you at all after graduating? i mean.. obiously, what counts is what you can do , not the paper, but if you aim high... isnt there places where you need a degree in arts or something to get the job?, about the money, yeaah, Gnomon its pretty expensive but im sure im able to pay it with out even have to ask for scholarships.. i mean dont get me wrong of curse those are welcome.. but im international.. and that gives me pretty low chances of scholarships.

Opinions pleasee.. :D

smalone3d
09-06-2010, 05:55 AM
I'd generally stay away from Ai schools. Their purpose is to make money. A bachelors from there will run you around 90k, not including cost of living. I'd suggest you do some more research about Ai and their reputation in the industry before making that kind of commitment.

Gnomon's probably one of the better schools to go to for CG, but they only offer certificates. In this industry, however, degrees are of very little importance. You only need one if you want to have an easier way to obtain a work visa to work outside of your country of citizenship, teach at a degree-granting institution, or in some cases get a more technical position. It's all about the demo reel.

But, you need an impressive traditional portfolio to get into Gnomon's two year program. With AI, you just need to pay them money for them to let you in.

My personal advice to you would be to do the community college thing, contact Gnomon's admissions department and get your portfolio reviewed and see if you have a chance to be accepted. If not, keep working at it.

MrConterno
09-06-2010, 06:21 AM
Agree with sam here. Only thing I'd like to add is you said you are international; I believe if you wish to stay in the U.S. you will find it harder to get the papers if you don't have a degree.

Other than that degrees are kinda worthless to most.

As far as the AI, some say they are ok, but personally for that kind of money I want more than ok. Also considering their tuition costs, you could go to VFS, Gnomon, or Ringling for around the same cost. Those schools are miles above AIs.

jesse92
09-06-2010, 02:07 PM
Ohh i see, and how good does my portfolio por Gnomon must be?, cause for the Ai, they made me do a portfolio too, and i got a 9 in a 1-10 scale, but well, Ai.. is Ai, so i dont think i really deserverd that 9 hehe, but anyway, what kind of drawings to i need for the Gnomon portoflio? figure drawing only? or landscape and facial drawing too?
I want to stay in the us, so i think that the degree think is going to become a problem.. u.u, isnt there places where you can get an art degree in 1 year or something? so i can get a quick art degree and then go to gnomon for 2 years?

MrConterno
09-06-2010, 02:31 PM
Ohh i see, and how good does my portfolio for Gnomon must be?

Depends on the program you want to go into. For their 1 year, just need to show potential. 2 year, on par with someone who has a illustration degree. 3 year, basics of drawing down, talent, and potential. If you post what you have here, I can let you know where you are.


what kind of drawings to i need for the Gnomon portoflio?

They told me it's good to see life drawings and things that show creativity.
(Side note: never ever ever submit anime to any school)


isnt there places where you can get an art degree in 1 year or something?

Not that I know of. Ask Gnomon about what you need to do to stay in the U.S. they will know more about it.

jesse92
09-06-2010, 04:01 PM
Mmm... the Gnomon website says that for international students, the only available program is the 2 year one, but i guees ill have to ask Gnomon about it, well, as soon as i learn how to post pics in forums, ill post some of my drawings in here.

jesse92
09-08-2010, 06:05 PM
Okay, here is some of my drawings, so far is kinda the best i got to offer >.< , so How much to you think i have to improve to get accepted in Gnomon? o:

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/hands.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/house.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/monclova.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/02001.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/01001.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/IMG_0001.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/ery.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/IMG_0003.jpg

http://i738.photobucket.com/albums/xx24/rem92cg/Traditonal%20drawing/IMG_0002.jpg

MrConterno
09-09-2010, 02:01 PM
I'd say you could get into the 1 year program and you would at least have a shot at the 3 year. Your drawings do show potential and show you have a lot of basic concepts of art down. Your proportion is slightly off in some of the drawings and your shading could use some attention, but so far it's a good start. I don't think you could get into the 2 year program because of your competition for the seats. I'd say you could probably handle the work if you got in though. Most people would agree once you have the basic concepts of art down you can do CG.

I'd say work on your shading a bit and also keep drawing from life. Friend of mine goes to the mall every day after school and draws people in the food court. Her drawings have improved A LOT from doing this. Keep in mind you probably wont produce anything portfolio worthy, mainly because people will move, but it's good practice none the less.

You have the ability, you just need to work on the skill a bit more.

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