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DanielWray
07-12-2010, 12:32 PM
Hey all,

I'm interested in buying a tablet screen mainly for sculpting with, I'm not so interested in using it to paint or draw, although I will occasionally do that.

I was looking at the Wacom cintiq's but they are far too expensive, about £800+ for the 12" model in the UK, after looking around I came across this Tablet screen (SenTip) (http://www.hanvon.com/en/products/tablets/products/SenTIP.html) and since it's only £460 I thought it would be a good substitute, considering the main purpose will only be sculpting.

Now, the reason why I haven't bought it yet is A) It's an unknown brand as far as I'm concerned, although the other tablets and devices they do get good reviews and look very good quality B) To save costs the screen is only capable of 262,000 colours, which to me sounds very bad, but for sculpting I wouldn't need a 16 million + display, right?

Technical Specifications
Model No. ST1201WD
Overall Dimensions(LxWxH) 390x270x17mm
LED Backlight Screen Size(LxW) 261.1x163.2mm(12.1’)
Tablet Resolution 5080LPI
View Angle 30°/60°　
Aspect Ratio 16:10
Native Resolution WXGA (1280x800)
Pixel Pitch 0.204mm
Number of Colors 262K colors
Brightness 220 cd/m2
Contrast Ratio 700:1
Driving Mode a-Si TFT active matrix LCD
Pen Pressure Levels 2048 Levels
Maximum Reading Height 7mm
Induction Mode Electromagnetic induction
Accuracy ±0.4 mm
Weight(Pen + Tablet) 1.8kg
Pen Weight 41g
Pen Size 11.3*158.5mm
Data Port USB
PnP DDC2B,DDC/CI&other DVI standard
System Requirement 2000 /XP/Vista X86/Vista X64/7/Mac10.5 or higher
Graphics Input Analog RGB (HD 15pin) or digital DVI (29 pin)
Display Connector Proprietary DFP - DVI-I on video control box
Display Adapters DVI-I to VGA, DVI-I to DVI-D 2-meter cables, no adapters necessary
Mounting Hole Pattern VESA 75mm
Power consumption Normal operation mode: ≤29 W; suspended or standby mode: ≤2 W

http://www.hanvon.com/en/images/pic-products/SenTIP/3.jpg

So any thoughts, should I just save up for a Wacom or take the risk and save myself a few hundred pounds?
705
07-12-2010, 02:04 PM
hmm interesting, ive googled around and it seems good enough and even better at some point compared to cintiq. the only downside is the color, 262K colors, which is ridiculous. might considering this too. any comment guys?
Szos
07-13-2010, 11:02 AM
Try before you buy.

I think there is a very good reason why Wacom owns the market when it comes to graphics tablets.... they make good products for reasonable prices and have been doing so for many years now. I'll readily admit that I have never even heard of this Hanvon company before, so for all I know, they might make great stuff, but then again, if their stuff is supposedly good, then why have I never seen any of their products posted before in all the graphic-related sites that I visit.

I just would be very wary of buying something like this without testing it first... you might just find out that getting the cheaper tablet is penny-wise, but pound-foolish.
DanielWray
07-13-2010, 02:13 PM
I won't be able to test before I buy as the only places I've seen this available from are on-line retailers, I would have a 7 day return policy though, so I guess I could go for it and then let you guy's know if it's any good.

Also, I believe Wacom has the entire industry by the balls since they own so many patents, such as the electro-magnetic induction pen technology, which is a shame as there could be a more competitive industry which would give us much better technology at far cheaper prices.

Anyway, as soon as I get the thing I'll do a review or something along those lines :)
imashination
07-13-2010, 02:20 PM
The 18 bit display instead of 24 bit is a bummer.

Oh, and I love the engrish ;-) "Wide Angel View from Comfort Position"
evanfotis
07-13-2010, 02:50 PM
I'd say forget about it!
It has a useless 6bit TN panel. Just Look at the viewing angles. Only head on will you see "correct" 6bit colours. Viewing from a lower angle on TN panels even inerts the image.
Impossible to work with in real world, especially as a tablet for drawing where one sits at an angle constantly changing viewing position.
Better off trying a DIY cintiq project or even better using the wimote trick on a good & large display with a fraction of the cost.
ManDay
07-13-2010, 03:37 PM
I won't be able to test before I buy as the only places I've seen this available from are on-line retailers, I would have a 7 day return policy though, so I guess I could go for it and then let you guy's know if it's any good.

Also, I believe Wacom has the entire industry by the balls since they own so many patents, such as the electro-magnetic induction pen technology, which is a shame as there could be a more competitive industry which would give us much better technology at far cheaper prices.

Anyway, as soon as I get the thing I'll do a review or something along those lines :)

Just a quick side note here: Wacom's patent on the EMR has been succesfully overthrown by Hanvon who now use this technology for their own tablets which, nonetheless are not as good as Wacoms. A new graphics tablet with EMR is also available, iirc.
olson
07-13-2010, 03:50 PM
Six bits per channel color? Hell no! To clarify that's only 64 values per channel which will cause severe banding. Best to save your money for a Wacom or just don't get one at all. Cheers!
RiKToR
08-10-2010, 07:34 PM
Try refurbed wacom cintiq's. I got a 21 for 60% of retail.
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