PETITION!!: Arndt's R8 book in English!

[Iggy]

2. Christopher Sol

[nataz]

3. sam rossetti

[boxy]

4. Sav Scatola

[slouchcorp]

5: Mike Batchelor

[JoelOtron]

6. Joel Dubin

[jblee]

7. John Lee

[A.v.K.]

Just let me send a big Thank You to all of you, regardless if this is able to change the publishers mind or not. I would never hoped for such a support.:wavey:

[designresponse]

Peter Robinson

[artdude12]

Les Sandelman

[caraffi]

William Creaturo

[JIII]

john hugens (yes I am 18 so I can sign these things w00t)

[sulian]

Sulian Lanteri (in english or french ;) )

And also :

-> Cinema 4D R8. Rigging und Animation inklusive MOCCA.
-> Cinema 4D 8 Studio. Mit BodyPaint 3D und Dynamics

---------

Sulian

[Thalaxis]

Rakesh Malik

I hope we can show enough demand to make it happen!

[Shademaster]

Daan Pol

[bek]

Ben-kee Chang

[FredSpeaks]

Michael Rensing

[tjnyc]

Tony Jung

[chromecity]

Jeff Andrews


__________________

Regards,

Jeff Andrews
Chrome City Studios

[bcbarnes]

Brian C. Barnes

[fdb]

Jason Fitzgerald

[kevinb]

kevin banis

[acmepixel]

Originally posted by AdamT


PETITION: the undersigned would strongly encourage PeachPit Press to publish an English language version of Arndt Von Koenigsmarck's book, "CINEMA 4D 8.1 . Ein Workshop für Profis". The undersigned further states that (he/she) would purchase this book if it was available in English:

1. Adam Trachtenberg


I would gladly pay the typical $50 U.S.

Doug Chezem

[stmark]

Mark Stasiuk:applause:

[squidinc]

Mike Robinson

[StroJ]

Marko Brajkovic

[mindzeye]

sean pirtle

[jackb602]

Jack Bransfield

[Cartesius]

Anders Kjellberg

[JuBecK]

Juan Muñoz

yo quisiera la traduccion al castellano.

i want spanish translation

[Peter C.]

Peter Clevestig

[brammelo]

Bart Rammeloo.

[flingster]

Christiaan Robinson
:deal: :deal: :deal:

[joltar]

I have it in German, but it's been 40 years since I took German so it's slow going. I'd surely buy it in English. I have his R7 bookas well as his R6 German one.

Good luck.

[station75]

Marcin Czerwinski

[katman]

Iain Brown

[mwa]

Magnus Wallon

[randyrives]

Randy Rives

[JDub]

Julian Welek

The R7 book was superb. Would love to get a new book for R8! :D

[VestanPance]

Sean-Paul McKee

[ronhondo]

Ronald Davis, NM, United States

[kromekat]

Adam Benton

[reddrake]

Mark me down, I'd purchase it!

Richard Iversen

[unclebob]

Bob Slentz

[adeptus minor]

david roseborough

but on the website it says that they are in the process of releasing 2 of his books in english and Maxon is going to release there own book at the end of this month

[chikega]

Gary E. Chike, MS, DMD

[sfshook]

Add my name to the list.

Steve Shook

[AdamT]

Originally posted by adeptus minor
david roseborough

but on the website it says that they are in the process of releasing 2 of his books in english and Maxon is going to release there own book at the end of this month
Where do you see that?

[ndat]

Adam Gardner (yes I can sign these, been 18 for ten minutes wooot :) )

[cookepuss]

Robert Santa

[BazC]

Barry Croucher

[Cheers]

Martin Childs

[neods]

Neodon Utans

[jddog]

Daulte Julien

[Prof]

Chris Robinson

[paulselhi]

Paul Selhi

[flingster]

Prof: Chris Robinson........
wierd another one....these damn Robinsons get everywhere!!:wavey:

[knight42]

Originally posted by flingster
Prof: Chris Robinson........
wierd another one....these damn Robinsons get everywhere!!:wavey:

Jamie Knight, UK.

Is Will Robinson here, too? *DANGER* *DANGER* *CHRIS ROBINSON*!!

[mskocko]

Mike Skocko

[MLMckenzie]

Yes, English please.

[rgwarren]

Rob Warren

[Desdinova]

K. Marshall :thumbsup:

[adeptus minor]

adam
it was on there website cant find anymore but I talked to Joan at maxon and she confirmed it was true she couldnt say when but is going to happen Maxon should have there book out beginning of october also if you want a really good book check out Digital Media Academys books 2 to be exact there the ones who do most of maxons training $60 bucks for both of them very good its there whole training program with out a trainer.

SIMPSONS RULE!!

[jerm]

Jeremy Solterbeck

[EXceed]

I purchase 2 books for C4D 7, and I will be truly happy if I can get a book for ver 8.

Laveaga Alvarez

[basilisk]

James Newman (surely there are more non-German users worldwide than German?)

[Rich-Art]

René Rijk. :thumbsup:

[CDCD]

Carlos Dias

[Shoshanna]

Suzanne Bishop,

In search of books on C4d to buy in english.

[Mitchy]

Peter Paterson

[kiwi]

Originally posted by adeptus minor
adam
it was on there website cant find anymore but I talked to Joan at maxon and she confirmed it was true she couldnt say when but is going to happen Maxon should have there book out beginning of october also if you want a really good book check out Digital Media Academys books 2 to be exact there the ones who do most of maxons training $60 bucks for both of them very good its there whole training program with out a trainer.

SIMPSONS RULE!!



Any idea what this book {Maxon one} will cover?



Add me as well - Stuart Winders

[AdamT]

Arndt provided this description of his book in the Cow Forum:

"My actual 'Pro' book about v8.1 (I have also a beginner book for v8 out) covers COFFEE, XPresso, TP, Dynamics and MOCCA in depth, as these are the things that are new in v8 or changed drastically from older versions. I have also some smaller chapters about BodyPaint and HDRI based lighting (and how to fake it without Advanced Renderer). The modelling chapter deals with the modelling of a human figure, while later chapters show how to prepare characters for animation (with and without MOCCA, as not everybody owns that module)."

You can see why I'm so jazzed about trying to get it in English!

[tjnyc]

If after all this, the publisher is still against an english version, I would like to recommend an alternative solution.

Why don't we group together and pay for translation service ourselves. Those that pay for it will get the translation with a promise that they have or will buy Arndt's German book. Let say that it cost $500/500(?) euro (for example) for the translation and we have 50 people willing to pay for it, then it will be $10/10(?) euro for each person. A few issues would be that it will of course cost more than buying an official english published version. Those who didn't get in on the translation will be without. Translation might suffer from lack of editor revision and such. There might be copyright issue, but since this will be non-profit based and this isn't affecting the market of an existing or planned english version of the book, it might not be an issue.

However, what would our alternative be if the publisher won't release an english version?

Anyone have any thoughts for or against?

regards,

[Chrissyboy]

Originally posted by AdamT
You can see why I'm so jazzed about trying to get it in English!

Amen to that, count me in.

Chris Cousins.

[adeptus minor]

I tryed to find out what the book was going to be on and I couldnt get a straight answer, as Joan over at Maxon did not know but she did say that maxon will have a dvd out before the end of the year. I am really wondering what happend to the page that showed the 2 Arndt books that were coming out in english maybe they took it off because its not happening soon or at all but I did see it for sure. I wish I book marked it, damn! but hey if all else fails I am for the idea (if indeed it is realistic) to have it translated. maybe if someone out there who speaks, reads and writes german can translate it (preferably Ardnt) and make a pdf version of the book in english and we would buy that as a download seems easier. Yeh I rather like that idea hey Arndt is this possible

[AdamT]

Arndt said somewhere that he can't do the translation on his own. I also see some serious copyright issues if we were to take this on ourselves--not to mention that $500 is probably way too little to get the book translated.

Hopefully the very nice response to the petition will sway PeachPit. I'll certainly explain that the forum community is only a small percentage of the user base, so they can expect many more sales than are represented here.

[Tronam]

I've looked at many of the v7.x tutorials and they translate pretty well over to 8.x from what I've seen so far. I ordered the last copy of Arndt's Cinema 4D 7 book on Amazon (new anyways) and look forward to digesting what I can from it until the 8.x book is released (hey, I'm being optimistic ;) ).

-Tronam

[nataz]

Personnaly I'm a 3d teacher's assistant so i give some course in an art school; unfortunatly for the students in c4d the only book we may propose to the students is maxon's manual... so i think that even in schools there would be a real interest in Arndt book.

[nataz]

Originally posted by Tronam
I've looked at many of the v7.x tutorials and they translate pretty well over to 8.x from what I've seen so far. I ordered the last copy of Arndt's Cinema 4D 7 book on Amazon (new anyways) and look forward to digesting what I can from it until the 8.x book is released (hey, I'm being optimistic ;) ).

-Tronam

For the basics it fits well; ok. But if you start thinking about all the modules... it's definitely not the same.

"My actual 'Pro' book about v8.1 (I have also a beginner book for v8 out) covers COFFEE, XPresso, TP, Dynamics and MOCCA in depth, as these are the things that are new in v8 or changed drastically from older versions. I have also some smaller chapters about BodyPaint and HDRI based lighting (and how to fake it without Advanced Renderer). The modelling chapter deals with the modelling of a human figure, while later chapters show how to prepare characters for animation (with and without MOCCA, as not everybody owns that module)."
Arndt speaking...

[JIII]

Does anyone even have a clue on earth why they don't publish more books on C4D?

I mean sure we are a pretty young app but that means more beginning users who will buy more books. I mean come on today we will pass max in the post count we are the number three selling app in the market I mean come on whats up with this?

The market is most deffinitely out there, why doesn't some one just take advantage of it for gods sake.

[tjnyc]

I think Arndt mentioned why to some degree from what his publisher told him. Supposedly Arndt or some other C4D v7 english version book didn't sell well and didn't get good reviews in Amazon or something, so his publisher didn't want to put the money into publishing another english edition. You can't blame the publisher if they feel it will be losing money for them to put out another book based on sales of a previous book.

However, something like this list could help to change their minds if we can show enough serious interest as well as fact like you mention with C4D being the 3rd best selling app. I don't know how well the one current english C4D 8 book that is out right now is doing, but if it is doing moderately well in sales, then we could point to that as another proof that there is a market for C4D 8 books.

[ajmotley]

Count me in.


Arnold Motley

[flingster]

its the so called advanced topics that separate this book from previous v7 one imho and a publisher should take note of that.:shrug:

as far as other c4d books not being around...maybe cos the actual software documentation and tutorials are so good in the first place...
i do think that now with cinema really going to town on this whole modularisation process there is a real need for books on different modules in themselves...as some of modules documentation is a bit thin!:p

[JIII]

The thing that bothers me the absolute worst is that you walk into any book store you can find books on max, maya, and lightwave. Heck they even have books like, "art of maya" and half the art in it is not good enough to be even considered for the front page of cgtalk.


I mean one reason they aren't selling, is because they aren't promoting, they are distributing, they aren't putting money in this.

Just physically translating the book, and physically printing it. Is not even half the work if they wanna sell jack.

Sorry for the rant its just my little opinion.

[AdamT]

Yep, it's whack. Just do an Amazon search and you will find scores if not hundreds of book on Maya, Max, and LW. Cinema? Three. And R8 Handbook is half copied from the XL7 Handbbook.

[kilian]

Kilian Munch

[barnabythebear]

Yup, me too, Nigel Gilbert.

[CGA@UIW]

Originally posted by JIII
Does anyone even have a clue on earth why they don't publish more books on C4D?

I mean sure we are a pretty young app but that means more beginning users who will buy more books. I mean come on today we will pass max in the post count we are the number three selling app in the market I mean come on whats up with this?

The market is most deffinitely out there, why doesn't some one just take advantage of it for gods sake.

Well, to quote from another forum where I addressed this a bit....

It's a tough balance. As the writer of the current "book in english" I can explain a few of the problems.

Writing a book is not a financially rewarding process for the author. If you have a book that sells very well, you might end up with $6k-$7k on a book. Considering that it usually takes me 8 months or so to put one together, it ends up being pennies on the hour.

The second problem is that the publisher, who takes the financial risk of the book, understandably wants to make it appealing to as large an audience as possible. So a book written for beginners (The Cinema 4D R8 Handbook is actually written as a text book for my 3D I class), often ends up being billed as much much more.

With this same idea in mind, it means that the largest group of potential buyers for any book is the beginning crowd. The experienced folks have weathered the 3D storm, have learned how to teach themselves software, and largely get the high-end help they need from forums (like this one, CGTalk, Creative Cow, etc...). Also, the beginnig group tends to thin as the skill level increases - people just decide that 3D isn't for them.

So, for a book on C4D, a publisher looks at a market that is fairly limited to begin with. Then they look at where they are most likely to sell the most books. The higher end a book, the more specialized it must be, and the more specialized the buyer then is. So it becomes less and less appealing for a publisher to publish such a high end book unless there is a REALLY large advanced group (i.e. an advanced Lightwave, or 3DS Max book).

So, although a more advanced book is certainly more fun to write (I'd prefer to do one); and there are lots of folks who could write screaming advanced books; the market is a tough one. Ardnt's book is a good example. His v7 book was more advanced than mine; far more robust - I quite like it. But in the long run, the more basic book attracted an update - not because it's better, but just because my publisher believed that it was likely to sell more copies.

So, as an author what can you do? You write to please the publisher so that the book sells so that they'll publish another. You write because a basic guide is better than no guide. But its tough to write the book that is all things to all people.

And I'm not defending my book; I've learned long ago not to take criticisms personally. If someone spends $50 on a book, they've bought the right to critique it and attract others to it, or warn people away.

But one thing that would probably help, is if you have in mind what could make a book better, rather than bash it (publisher will read those and decide that an audience isn't receptive of published material) email the publisher and let them know what you liked and what you'd like to see more of. If a publisher gets a lot of feedback like, "I liked this part of the book you published; please give us more advanced C4D stuff" they're going to be a lot more likely to commission those sorts of books.

Just thought I'd post those thoughts.

[davedavidson]

dave davidson
dd designs
i want this book badly

[Brucie Rosch]

My hand is raised...

[Neoklassik]

Count me in.:thumbsup:

Bill Craig

[oxy2000]

Seksun Duangsong
Oleang.net (http://www.oleang.net) :rolleyes:

[A.v.K.]

Thank you Adam for your comments.
I share your thoughts about the relation between the complexity of workshops and the number of potential readers/buyers.
It's exactly what I whitness here in Germany with my two books about V8 that are out now. The beginners book sells about three times better than the book for advanced readers. So it is definately more appealing for writers to publish titels for the less advanced users. This makes even more sense if you have in mind, that thinking off complex workshops needs much more time.
Regarding my english book about V7, the unfortunate fact that there are some errors in the translation - I wasn't involved in this and wasn't able to check the translation before it was published - and the amazon.com comments of some readers who were expecting more basic informations, may have caused that the american publisher wasn't too interested in this project again.
Here is one of those comments taken from Amazon.com: "This book does even have character animation. For beginners, it's hard to figure out how to open the Cinema 4D XL program because the author doesn't show how to use the provided cd to start the software."

[AdamT]

Yeah, but what about some of the positive reviews? :)

"Reviewer: Adam Trachtenberg (see more about me) from Miami, FL United States
I noticed that some reviewers downgraded this book because it doesn't offer elementary information that is available (in mass quantities) in the Cinema manuals. This is patently unfair, as the book does not aim to replace the manuals or to provide a basic introduction to Cinema 4D. Rather, it is a guide for intermediate to advanced users that provides clear instruction on some the darker corners of Cinema 4D XL7--information that one would be hard-pressed to glean from the manuals, or even from months of experimentation.

It is precisely this that makes the book so valuable! Mr. Koenigsmark explains in exacting detail the nuances of Cinema's material system--including the lightly-documented but powerful SLA shaders. He provides one of the best explanations of radiosity that you will find anywhere. He explains COFFEE scripting. He provides detailed modeling tutorials that address the peculiar strengths and weaknesses of the program. In short, assuming you have a basic understanding of the program to begin with, this book will take your 3D skills to a new level. Very highly recommended."

It would probably help if others who have purchased the book and liked it added their positive comments on Amazon.

[A.v.K.]

Yes, of course I read that one, too.
I'll have to thank that "Adam Trachtenberg" guy if I see him somewhere
:D

[CGA@UIW]

Originally posted by A.v.K.
Thank you Adam for your comments.
I share your thoughts about the relation between the complexity of workshops and the number of potential readers/buyers.
It's exactly what I whitness here in Germany with my two books about V8 that are out now. The beginners book sells about three times better than the book for advanced readers. So it is definately more appealing for writers to publish titels for the less advanced users. This makes even more sense if you have in mind, that thinking off complex workshops needs much more time.
Regarding my english book about V7, the unfortunate fact that there are some errors in the translation - I wasn't involved in this and wasn't able to check the translation before it was published - and the amazon.com comments of some readers who were expecting more basic informations, may have caused that the american publisher wasn't too interested in this project again.
Here is one of those comments taken from Amazon.com: "This book does even have character animation. For beginners, it's hard to figure out how to open the Cinema 4D XL program because the author doesn't show how to use the provided cd to start the software."

Yep. Expectations are hard to match. My book, which was really created as a beginning volume, has gotten a lot of reviews that said: "I've been using C4D for 6 years, and this book had nothing that I didn't alread know!"

Unfortunately, folks usually don't write reviews if they are positive - unless they were really blown away by a volume.

Email, me though would you A.v.K.? My publisher has found that my C4D book has sold fairly well (especially at schools) and she might be interested in a translation of a more advanced book. Maybe we can get things hooked up. Not sure what the rights are with your European publisher.....

[A.v.K.]

That would be a cool thing, Adam. Thanks a lot for this offer though I have no idea what our publishers might think about it. I just mailed you through the "villa" :thumbsup:

[smoke]

The majority of people buying these books are usually people that don't have the manuals because they didn't BUY the software. Look at all the bloody Maya books when you go to a book store. For a couple thousand dollars I would hope the Maya has manuals.

Anyway, I would love to see Arndt's book in English. As I mentioned before, his 7XL book was one of the best software books I've used. :thumbsup:

Sam Spencer


PS: the person who wrote the review complaining that the book didn't explain how to start the program shoud be SLAPPED:wip:

[A.v.K.]

Thanks Smoke :wavey:
I do my best to convince the publishers to support my future projects.

[nataz]

Originally posted by smoke
The majority of people buying these books are usually people that don't have the manuals because they didn't BUY the software. Look at all the bloody Maya books when you go to a book store. For a couple thousand dollars I would hope the Maya has manuals.

i don't agree with you (though i know there's a lot of people with unofficial software...). Even though i have bought c4d the manual is not what really taught me modelling with it; it more helped me understand the use of c4d.

As for maya, wich i used at school, i've learned more with a few books than with the whole documentation (which get you lost as soon as you open it, maybe because it explains you everything but not what you need).

So i definitely think that side parts books are more usefull than pure documentation, alike the difference between the technical documentation of your car and the practice you can do with a teacher (both usefull but not for the same purposes).

[Beechdbum]

Ben Beech

[RandomArc]

Karl Smith

[chromecity]

It would probably help if others who have purchased the book and liked it added their positive comments on Amazon.

Posted mine about a week ago. I can't believe the gene pool still has room for people like that clown who called it a "Bad Book" because it didn't tell him how to install the software. Un-freakin'-real. Although I didn't think it was quite a 5-star book myself, I made sure to give it 5 stars to help offset the 2 stars that idiot gave it.

Regards,

Jeff Andrews
Chrome City Studios

[JIII]

hell for the cost you pay for most highend software they should include a book like arndts in it. I know there is enough room in the XL bundles box for sure.

I mean you spend 1500 or what on software. The total cost to them would probibly be like 15 or 20 bucks at the most to put a book like that in each bundle or whatnot.

[AdamT]

Thanks everyone! It looks like no more names are being added, so I've sent off the petition to PeachPit. Here's the final product:

"Dear Sir or Ma'am:

I offer you a petition in the hopes of obtaining an English translation of Arndt Von Koenigsmarck's book, "Ein Workshop fur Profis". The petition was posted on the CGTalk website, and you can view the actual process and comments here: http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89944&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

As you will see below, 78 individuals have agreed that they would purchase Mr. Koenigsmarck's book if it was available in English. Please keep in mind that number of Cinema users who frequent the CGTalk forum is only a small percentage of the total community of English-speaking Cinema users. Thus, while I hope you agree that this is an impressive number of signatures, I am certain that PeachPit could expect sell many times this number of copies.

Without further ado, then, here is the petition:

"Hi all,

It's really a shame that Arndt Von Koenigsmarck's publisher is not interested in publishing his advanced R8 book in English. I'm sure most of you would agree that there is a ridiculous dearth of third-party instructional material available for Cinema, particularly in comparison to Maya, Max, and LW.

Please add your (real) name to the following petition if you would purchase and English language version of Arndt's book. I will send the petition to Arndt's publisher when names are no longer being added.

PETITION: the undersigned would strongly encourage PeachPit Press to publish an English language version of Arndt Von Koenigsmarck's book, "CINEMA 4D 8.1 . Ein Workshop für Profis". The undersigned further states that (he/she) would purchase this book if it was available in English:

1. Adam Trachtenberg
2. Christopher Sol
3. sam rossetti
4. Sav Scatola
5. Mike Batchelor
6. Joel Dubin
7. John Lee
8. Peter Robinson
9. Les Sandelman
10. William Creaturo
11. john hugens
12. Sulian Lanteri
13. Rakesh Malik
14. Daan Pol
15. Ben-kee Chang
16. Michael Rensing
17. Tony Jung
18. Jeff Andrews
19. Brian C. Barnes
20. Jason Fitzgerald
21. kevin banis
22. Doug Chezem
23. Mark Stasiuk
24. Mike Robinson
25. Marko Brajkovic
26. sean pirtle
27. Jack Bransfield
28. Anders Kjellberg
29. Juan Muñoz
30. Peter Clevestig
31. Bart Rammeloo
32. Christiaan Robinson
33. Marcin Czerwinski
34. Iain Brown
35. Magnus Wallon
36. Randy Rives
37. Julian Welek
38. Sean-Paul McKee
39. Ronald Davis
40. Adam Benton
41. Richard Iversen
42. Bob Slentz
43. david roseborough
44. Gary E. Chike
45. Steve Shook
46. Adam Gardner
47. Robert Santa
48. Barry Croucher
49. Martin Childs
50. Neodon Utans
51. Daulte Julien
52. Chris Robinson
53. Paul Selhi
54. Chris Robinson
55. Jamie Knight
56. Mike Skocko
57. Rob Warren
58. Marshall
59. Jeremy Solterbeck
60. Laveaga Alvarez
61. James Newman
62. René Rijk
63. Carlos Dias
64. Suzanne Bishop
65. Peter Paterson
66. Stuart Winders
67. Chris Cousins
68. -Tronam
69. Arnold Motley
70. Kilian Munch
71. Nigel Gilbert
72. dave davidson
73. Bill Craig
74. Seksun Duangsong
75. Sam Spencer
76. Ben Beech
77. Karl Smith
78. Brucie Rosch

Thank you for your consideration.

Best regards,
Adam Trachtenberg"

I sent this to four different PeachPit e-mail addresses to make sure it gets seen. I'll post an update if and/or when I get a response.

Thanks again for participating! :thumbsup:

[brammelo]

keeping my fingers crossed ... I would really like to see this one being published.

Cheers,
BaRa

[ajmotley]

Thanks for the time Adam, let's hope this goes through.

[JIII]

good to know this has been sent I hope this influences them a bit.

[A.v.K.]

Thank you all for your support!
My special thanks go to AdamT for his ongoing support for the C4D communnity here and at Creative Cow and to Jeff Andrews for his kind comments on Amazon.com
I'll do my best to convince english/american publishers to give you at least more alternatives to choose from in the near future.
If I get any news regarding this, I'll let you know.:thumbsup:

[Scott M C4D]

Scott Moncrieff

[artemesia66]

well, its probably too late, as i was on holiday, and adam's already sent the petition to peachpit, but in case they check the thread, i would LOVE to buy arndt's book in English, so sign me up:

Janet Taylor

[jddog]

Hey hope that i'm not too late... sorry hollidays and so on...

Daulte Julien

[AdamT]

You've been on holiday for 10 months?!

This thing died a long time ago. I sent the petition to five different e-mail addresses and didn't receive a single response.

[umblefugly]

Eric Jeffery

I also just bought the XL7 Version :o)

[rgwarren]

Maybe an R9 version instead? {shrug}

[jddog]

You've been on holiday for 10 months?!

This thing died a long time ago. I sent the petition to five different e-mail addresses and didn't receive a single response.

This thing died a long time ago. I sent the petition to five different e-mail addresses and didn't receive a single response.[/QUOTE]

haha :hmm: yep I didn't see the date of the first post... by the way I was number 51. on your list Adam... Yep yesterday night I think I was too tired reading some post here and by distraction I wrote a ... :argh: ...

But I continue to support all action of translation... is really important... but in this case my distraction... haha 10 month.... I think it was posted in august... of this year...

Really sad to know that nobody answer you... this is unbelievable… and just really not fine. But your position and what you did is really great… Eventually a day we need to create an independent label who translate books

jdd

[rodney71]

Late to the party here, but can't hurt to support a good cause

Rod Sawatsky

[grundgedanke]

Stefan Brink

...even if i´m able to read the german one...i think there are much more english titles needed!

[wuensch]

as owner of Ardts advanced book (and german) I can attest that the book is worth every cent. (and that it really is for advanced users).
I was not too intersted in the modelling part, but the expresso/Dynamics/Thinking particles part is absolutely terrific and opened up a whole differnt perspective on what can be done with C4D for me once you start using these really powerful tools in conjunction.

Olli

[Venkman]

Christopher Boehman

[AdamT]

Maybe if Arndt is planning an R9 update of the book--or a new advanced R9 book? This thread popping up has ticked me off at Arndt's publisher all over again!! :/ I could *really* use the TP/Xpresso instruction!!

[Jorge Arango]

Maybe if Arndt is planning an R9 update of the book--or a new advanced R9 book? This thread popping up has ticked me off at Arndt's publisher all over again!! :/ I could *really* use the TP/Xpresso instruction!!

I would suggest to Arnd- or anyone doing a C4D book_ to write it in english in the first place. I know it's easier to write in your native language but I think you would reach a larger audience. Of course, updating an already written book is something else.


Jorge Arango

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