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RobertoOrtiz
09-19-2003, 07:58 PM
Quote:
"One of the digital guys was showing off some stuff on his laptop at Fox last week and it was a really surreal experience because it was the fight between Vader and Alec Guinness but it was all new stuff, very similar to the fights in the new shows, all hyper and well choreographed. Think Yoda was pretty fly for an old Jedi? Wait til you see Guinness. I like to think we could achieve the same effect with an appliance mask but the second set was a set of close ups on digital Alec's face. It was amazing. He said it was some stuff Lucas was looking over for the re-re-release of Star Wars. After these current ones are finished. He also said that the Han meets Jabba scene had been totally redone and looked a lot better, which is cool, but the puppet in Jedi still looks awsome to my eyes. "

>>link<< (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=16138)

-R

Scottosh
09-19-2003, 08:05 PM
Thanks for the tip and link.:beer:

gnarlycranium
09-19-2003, 09:38 PM
Eerrk?

Ordinarily I might be excited, but most of what they did to the (first?!!) special edition irked me so much, my hackles are rising... don't tell me they're gonna screw it up MORE... :annoyed:

Sieb
09-19-2003, 10:00 PM
I thought Lucas said No re-re-re-release of the original series? Especially on dvd?

xzevlin
09-19-2003, 10:07 PM
I hope, whether this report is true or not, that they redo the Han/Jabba scene. The Phantom Menace's Jabba looks so much better than the New Hope one. Maybe they can take out the tail-stepping part too, with a CG Han :D

I kinda wonder how Alec Guinness' family would feel about him doing ninja flips. I think if it's well done, it will let it tie in a little more with the rest of the series.

But if they touch one frame of the Empire fight between Luke and Vader, I will burn all my action figures. That fight is better than anything the new trilogy has, because of the editing and the emotion.

Pin_pal
09-19-2003, 11:44 PM
I really can’t believe the amount of sheer obsession people have with the star wars series. In the year 2347 I assume people will still think they are the “best movies ever”. I mean really, I think star wars fanatics have some serious psychological issues. These movies aren’t that great! Give it up!

Array
09-20-2003, 12:13 AM
argh, why cant lucas just leave it alone??

Joe2003
09-20-2003, 12:48 AM
These movies aren’t that great!

:rolleyes: The original SW trilogy is one of the greatest trilogies, arguably the greatest trilogy, ever made. Not to mention the most monumental trilogy of all time. Considering your opinion is in the extreme minority, that ought to tell you something. Now shew fly.

By the way folks, this report is BS! It comes from AICN, which is a joke when it comes to credibility. There's absolutely no source listed and no confirmation whatsoever. This is the same site that posted a picture of Vader and claimed he would look like the picture in the movie, according to their trustworthy source, only to later find out it was nothing more than fan art. ILM doesn't have time to work on stuff like this. Their hands are full with Episode III and a ton of other movies.

Disregard this as nothing more than wild speculation. They even say in the article to "take this with a grain of salt". That's your giveaway right there. This ranks right up there with the rampant fanboy rumors that Jar-Jar and Natalie Portman had filmed scenes that would be placed in the original trilogy, both of which were completely debunked by Rick McCallum and Natalie Portman.

d4rk
09-20-2003, 12:56 AM
sigh.. I not going to keep buying new re-re-re-releases of old ones. Hope it's not true. Actually I kinda wish they had just made the newest ones more like the old ones, but I hear they are trying to tie in the look of EPIII to be more like EPIV... (fingaz crossed)

richcz3
09-20-2003, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by Array
argh, why cant lucas just leave it alone??

I concur with the drunken cripple with a powerful right leg.

It's like he feels that the movies are software revisions. In ten years these movies are going to be shadows of what they once were. The whole time we are going to have to hear him say...

"Now this is really close to what I really wanted this scene to look like. Really..this is how I envisioned it. Honest...its as close as technology can get it right now. We just didn't have the budget or technology to meet my vision using the Beta release of Gods Hand v.9.0.03. Now with the plugin of Gods Meddeling v.2.4 its closer than ever. Were getting there :scream:

richcz3

Valkyrien
09-20-2003, 02:05 AM
Originally posted by Array
argh, why cant lucas just leave it alone??

because in his opinion the movies aren't complete yet, and probably never will be.

So then WHY SHOW AN UNFINISHED PRODUCT!!

because you want more money, duh;)

Shadow_545
09-20-2003, 08:26 PM
I don't know aobut these redoings of original scenes, but Star Wars is Awsome!!! I mean if you ask me if LOTR or Star Wars is a better movie triliogy, I'll say LOTR pretty quick, but Star Wars is like its own category!!!

"I think star wars fanatics have some serious psychological issues."

Yah, I'm one of those :beer:

Pin_pal
09-20-2003, 08:33 PM
Joe2003:
"This ranks right up there with the rampant fanboy rumors that Jar-Jar and Natalie Portman had filmed scenes that would be placed in the original trilogy, both of which were completely debunked by Rick McCallum and Natalie Portman."


Dude YOU are a fanboy

Now, shew fanboy.

ppself
09-20-2003, 08:59 PM
i agree star wrs isnt the best movie out there,plus how many differnt versions can you make of the same movie before people just dontcare common george make something new for a change.

gnarlycranium
09-21-2003, 12:41 AM
Originally posted by Pin_pal
I really can’t believe the amount of sheer obsession people have with the star wars series. In the year 2347 I assume people will still think they are the “best movies ever”. I mean really, I think star wars fanatics have some serious psychological issues. These movies aren’t that great! Give it up!

...Okay... the thing about fanatics... is that you CAN'T get them to give it up. Okay? Trying to convince them is pure naivete.. you ought to know by now that SW fanism is a force that can't be stopped! Go! Run! Hide! *shakes fist* We will not be swayed by your pithy complainings!



And I'm glad this rerererereleasewhatever thing is a rumor. Phew. Dodged bullet there. Now if we could just get the original originals on dvd. Or better yet, if they just included both versions on one set of dvds so you could pick which to watch.

igorstshirts
09-21-2003, 02:11 AM
I'm sure that Lucas will re-re-re-release the first(last) three episodes on dvd remastered again. The Rankor scene in Jabba's palace needs work as well as some other ones too. It will happen for sure... Bet on it!:applause:

t-toe
09-21-2003, 01:49 PM
well, yes, it may be a rumor... but I *HAVE* read rumors from aint-it-cool-new before that have turned out to be completely true. Harry does have a number of connections in the industry (one of them being Peter Jackson himself), and occassionally, he gets a reliable tip-off. the thing about aint-it-cool-news is they print EVERYTHING from rumors to facts... anything Harry gets in his email that interests him gets printed, as long as it doesn't seem too ridiculous.

as far as them re-doing the fight between obi-wan and darth vader... last I heard, there was just one or two shots that Lucas wasn't happy with in that sequence; one of them being the scene where Obi-Wan gets struck down and disappears. unless things have changed, ILM was just going to clean up that shot and a few others, and fix a few more sequences throughout the film (hopefully that Jabba and Han Solo scene, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!), and that's it. I don't think I remember them talking about extensive updates this time around...

buckky
09-21-2003, 02:33 PM
okay, i cant help but comment. iknow that they are just movies,but this thread had raised my hackles.. just thinking about the redos and even the new swfilms... i wont touch how the new ones make me feel.. but as far as the rerelase of the old ones with all the new stuff... its like taking a family photo album and scanning every pic photoshopping to throw in a sunset where there wasnt really one in the first place and taking the wrinkles out of your grannys face!! i mean why does he think we saw the darn things like 20 times each?(conservative est i know but i dont want to freak non sw fans out) those things were burned into our minds the way they were and they were beautifull with all the faults and quirks. alright well the first two anyway and the end of the third was pretty powerfull.. for me any alteration is a down hill path imean i cant be 7 and see it again for the first time and for those that are the new stuff doesnt really add anything of worth................ ok ill shut up but one more thing FREAKING HAN SOLO SHOOTS FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
imean why?why?why?:banghead:

edit -just one more thing i swear! last i heard he wants the original versions to drift off into the void like they never happened... wtf?

edit2 -no offence intended for you ilmers,just one word-mutiny

Joe2003
09-22-2003, 05:01 AM
last i heard he wants the original versions to drift off into the void like they never happened... wtf?

Last you heard? Last you heard from whom, a bunch of people on internet chat rooms who obssess over the least little rumor. That was my point. People will believe anything they read on the internet, regardless of who wrote it.

well, yes, it may be a rumor... but I *HAVE* read rumors from aint-it-cool-new before that have turned out to be completely true. Harry does have a number of connections in the industry (one of them being Peter Jackson himself), and occassionally, he gets a reliable tip-off.

The key word here is occasionally, and even that's usually by luck. The fact is the majority of the stuff they try to pass off as fact, ends up false. I mean, when you'll post a piece of fan art and try to pass it off as legit, you have no shame. I would trust nothing from AICN until it was either confirmed officially or I saw it with my own eyes.

I'm sure that Lucas will re-re-re-release the first(last) three episodes on dvd remastered again.

Oh there's no doubt he's going to release a cut with some changes. But what you're probably going to get is something along the lines of the '97 special edition. He'll go back and redo the FX touch ups he added in '97, but he'll do it with today's technology. That way it will look better. He's said he'll redo the lightsabers, which look especially bad in ANH. He'll digitally recomposite scenes in each movie that need to be recomposited. He's also said in the past that he's going to get John Williams to score the new FX touch ups and make the transitions between new and existing scenes seamless. That's about it.

Lucas has never claimed to be unhappy with the actual scenes in the films. He was just unhappy at how some of the FX turned out, and at how he couldn't do some things he wanted to. If you look at the '97 SEs, 99% of the original scenes are in the films. He only added a couple of new scenes added to new FX to spruce up the film.

buckky
09-22-2003, 06:35 AM
personally i think soup that is only 1% fly is unappitizing.

one thing that is not a rumor is that FREAKIN HAN SOLO SHOOTS FIRST!

i know its just a rumor that he wont relase the original originals on dvd,but it fits whith what he has been doing so far.

i dont believe everything on the net like,aliens abducted me,bush was fairly elected and there is a god.

edit- this post has had 90%of its pointless rant removed(and 10%inserted)- i just wanna see the un mucked version on dvd thats all.

AWAKE
09-23-2003, 05:05 AM
F star wars.

Joe2003
09-23-2003, 06:22 PM
one thing that is not a rumor is that FREAKIN HAN SOLO SHOOTS FIRST!

There was never a rumor about that. That was only something that was b*tched about after the fact.

i know its just a rumor that he wont relase the original originals on dvd

Actually, that's not a rumor. He's flat out said it. But since he changes his mind quite often, there's some question as to whether he'll stick to it.

F star wars.

There's always one stupid post in every thread.

Pixarman
09-24-2003, 06:04 AM
I have the original versions on Laserdisc and they suit me just fine. I have also backed them up onto DVD for myself as well. That's good enough for me, for now.

I'll be buying the new super special versions when they come out on DVD as well. They will have the beefed up effects, crushing sound and pristine image quality. Have you watched the original versions lately? The picture quality is very low in my opinion. It's very grainy and the sound is stereo. If they put those versions on dvd I won't buy them, because the quality won't go up from my LD backups most likely...


Pixarman

urgaffel
09-24-2003, 09:31 AM
I wouldn't believe anything they post at AICN... Bunch of bs IMO. Interesting read about Harry Knowles:

*edit*

Good article: http://www.filmthreat.com/Features.asp?Id=159

*/edit*

http://hollywoodbitchslap.com/feature.php?feature=724

Cessen
09-24-2003, 04:55 PM
The original SW trilogy is one of the greatest trilogies, arguably the greatest trilogy, ever made. Not to mention the most monumental trilogy of all time. Considering your opinion is in the extreme minority, that ought to tell you something. Now shew fly.

That's really funny, because if considering them to be "not that great" is a minority opinion, then George Lucas himself is obviously in the minority: he considers the originals (at least) to be unfinished.

Refering to those who think that the movies shouldn't have been changed at all, or simply any further: George Lucas changing them doesn't take your copies of the originals away from you, so why do you care?

In the end, the Starwars trilogy is just entertainment. It's very enjoyable entertainment, IMO, but it's still just entertainment.

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