Poor me lol

[sebek27]

don't worry, it won't be so bad.. I learned Max interface pretty quickly plus you'll love the poly tools and since it has ngons, you can make a cut to one face and the other faces are left untouched, but you still will be thinking about cinema while you model in Max or Maya... most of the gaming industry uses max so just be happy that you have this opportunity to broaden your 3D knowledge, knowing 2 programs will only help you :thumbsup:

[ThirdEye]

I'd go for Maya if i were in your shoes.

[flingster]

oooh toughie....that said more experience on other apps should build your knowledge which is no bad thing really...and you still get the pleasure and enjoyment of coming hope to the real thing! heh heh.
ooh and good luck with your studies.:thumbsup:

[Cyborgguineapig]

Originally posted by ThirdEye_01
I'd go for Maya if i were in your shoes.

I don't know why but whenever I think of Maya and game design I just don't see it. Most models I see come out of Maya are like too nurby looking if ya know what I mean. I have not seen many low poly maya models posted on Cgtalk unless I'm missing them all. Maya just looks like an expensive but clumsy program.

[JamesMK]

Nasty. Oh well, not much to do about it I guess.

But fear not, I seem to remember that Max was pretty easy to get comfortable with... Except for all that crashing of course. Remember to save often! Like after each and every operation... :rolleyes:

[ThirdEye]

Maya: 1999USD. Clumsy? A bit.
Max: 3500USD. Clumsy? Even more.

[JDex]

XSI... Clumsy? Not a bit. $12,000

If the opportunity avails itself... learn XSI, I believe it will continue to be more prevalent in the gaming industry over the next few years.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by JDex
XSI... Clumsy? Not a bit. $12,000



C4D. Clumsy? Prolly even less than XSI. 2500USD ;)

[JIII]

C4D clumsy? nope $599

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by JIII
C4D clumsy? nope $599


The basic package can't compete with Softimage, Max or Maya, let's consider the full thing.

[kiwi]

Originally posted by JDex
XSI... Clumsy? Not a bit. $12,000

If the opportunity avails itself... learn XSI, I believe it will continue to be more prevalent in the gaming industry over the next few years.



Ya I agree Softimage will become the highend 3D app everyone wants to use for gaming and films.



Cyborgguineapig that is a bummer,but having 3 apps you can use like Maya and Max plus C4D will open more doors for you bud :)

[MJV]

Is XSI really $12,000? Seems like I've heard $5000.

[JIII]

XSI advanced is 12,000

[bobtronic]

Originally posted by JIII
XSI advanced is 12,000

You could build a nice little C4D renderfarm
with this money.

What makes XSI so expensive?

Bob

[flingster]

isn't it owned my microsoft??? hence over-priced!!!:shrug:

[JDex]

Stop spreading misinformation... Microsoft has not owned Softimage for years. Softimage is a subsidary of Avid, who you may have heard of.

check this recent thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88442) for why XSI is priced the way it is.

[ThirdEye]

Originally posted by JDex
Stop spreading misinformation... Microsoft has not owned Softimage for years. Softimage is a subsidary of Avid, who you may have heard of.

check this recent thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88442) for why XSI is priced the way it is.


Cool down JDex, who cares who's the owner of Softimage? :shrug:

[JDex]

I wasn't getting hot... guess it came off that way though... sorry.

[flingster]

ok it was actually a question...but maybe i could have worded it better...:shrug: :eek:

[MJV]

Originally posted by JDex
Stop spreading misinformation... Microsoft has not owned Softimage for years. Softimage is a subsidary of Avid, who you may have heard of.

check this recent thread (http://www.cgtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=88442) for why XSI is priced the way it is.

I almost cried the day Avid purchased SI. Avid's business practice has always been to sell their product at the highest price a few people (i.e. corporations) will pay for it. They like being exclusive, and would rather have 100 users who will pay $10,000 for something than a thousand users who would pay $3000.

The day they purchased Softimage, they raised the price of the SI non linear editing system from $120,000 to $150,000. Nothing changed but the price. They didn't want it to compete with their main product line, which is why they bought it and thereafter raised the price and then more or less stopped developing it.

Being a long time customer of Avid, I know very well that there customer support sucks, and that there general attitude to the customer is that they are doing you a favor just by letting you buy their products.

Really, that purchase was quite a tragedy for those of us in the video production business because it meant the end of high end competition on the NLE front. One can only hope for their speedy demise.

[JDex]

Well I can't speak to Avid's Customer Support for their higher end NLE, but as a user of ProTools DV Express and XSI, I have found their customer support to be "perfect". They respond immediately, are courteous and helpful. I have never felt that they think that I should be thankful that they let me buy their software, infact they have always been very outgoing to the fact that they are glad to have me as a customer, and would love to keep me as a happy one.

I am only a Student with Academic liscenses, therefore I have not invested anywhere near the money into their products as the commercial license holders, but they still treat me as if I were ILM when there is a crisis. Nearly all of the XSI users that I communicate with have a very similar view to mine as to XSI's support, and most of the ProTools/DV Express users are have had likewise experiences... I don't know why you haven't. :shrug:

[JIII]

I have also heard horror story's about tech support guys who never came etc..

Avid doesn't really have a perfect name.

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