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redpandafire
06-02-2010, 02:02 AM
1.) Introduction:

Welcome!

I'm a beginner and self-taught artist! I have only highschool training and gobs of enthusiasm to fuel my adventures! I've never had any art instruction except for help from this wonderful forum and others much like it! I hope my stay here at CGTalk will open up new ideas and doors for my future in the arts! Please enjoy the illustrations in this sketch thread!

Thanks,
Chua


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2.) Latest Work:

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_003-2.jpg


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3.) Earliest Work:

Below is just a repost of all the images I worked on since February 2010:

Gesture Study:
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8666/201006012053480014.jpg

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/6623/201006012100070015.jpg

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/3167/201006012101280016.jpg

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3179/201006012102550017.jpg

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/5139/201006012114480018.jpg

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2964/201006012117390019.jpg

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/1876/201006012119130020.jpg

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4837/201006012122020021.jpg

redpandafire
06-02-2010, 02:02 AM
Cast study:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/8379/201005311940priest01.jpg

http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/7645/201005261837470011.jpg

First time Photoshop:
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/5920/20100519blackandwhite.jpg

Random studies:
http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/3531/201005142000590010.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1985/2010051220475000081.jpg

http://img689.imageshack.us/img689/1462/201005102150250007.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/7358/201005101840430006maste.jpg

http://img693.imageshack.us/img693/2339/201005092140340005.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5783/201005072224050003.jpg

AbuAmir
06-02-2010, 10:22 AM
Even if our situations are similar (i am also new and i don't have any art instruction) your works are far better than mine. keep working because you are definitely on the right way. :)

Whirlwind123
06-02-2010, 12:19 PM
Followed your gesture thread to here. You have some great works and your gestures are not looking too bad at the moment. Your way ahead of me anyway :P

From what you have said I would say try and think less about the contour of the 2d shape your seeing and instead think about blocks and how they fit into each other in 3D space. Also if you haven't already check out Vilppu's wonderful video on gesture :)

Keep going and I am sure Robert is going to say something infinitely more useful than I have :)

Tasp
06-02-2010, 02:14 PM
You're off to a great start! Your longer studies look particularly good.

redpandafire
06-02-2010, 03:47 PM
@Whirlwind123: That gives me a crazy image of spinning curvy lines in 3d space. Awesome! I will search for that video! Thanks.

@Tasp: Thanks! I'm hoping to move away from the beginner stages at some point lol.

Cisc0
06-02-2010, 07:24 PM
you have really a nice hand and good skills: self teaching is a hard but gratifying way. keep the good work up!

redpandafire
06-03-2010, 12:59 AM
@AbuAmir and @Cisc0: The kind encouragement means alot to me! I'm feeling alot better about my work thanks to the anonymous and kind comments of fellow artists over the internet. =)

I will be studying human anatomy in deep details over the next while. I need to figure out the inner workings of the body instead of just blocking them in and guessing at the angles. I hope this challenge will be as fun to figure out as value study was!

redpandafire
06-07-2010, 01:55 AM
My first detailed anatomy study! I thought I'd totally fail, but im actually okay with my results. Yeah I don;'t like to pat myself on the back, especially in front of people, but this time I'm not ashamed of what I drew!

http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/2011/img004gu.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/2295/img001fv.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/3335/img003xt.jpg

batte812
06-07-2010, 08:41 AM
Great start for a sketchbook man! I like the gesture studies. Some of your drawings seem a bit flat sometimes: you might give some more attention to the construction of the shapes. Keep going!

redpandafire
06-08-2010, 01:53 AM
@batte812: Thanks! I tried to take your advice about the flatness and push the shadows harder. I don't know if the result is convincing enough, but I hope you come back to comment again! :D

I felt i did not draw nearly as much as I wanted because I became fixated at the beautiful cast shadows in the photographs I used as reference. But time ticked away and i had to stop drawing. =( I spent too much time shading that damn first drawing!

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/804/img005om.jpg
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/7994/img006qn.jpg
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/825/img007qd.jpg

Tasp
06-08-2010, 01:59 PM
Your anatomy studies are quite amazing. Also, given what you've accomplished so far you can definitely draw hands. Like anything else you just have to sit down and practice it!

jabuhrer
06-08-2010, 04:38 PM
Excellent sketchbook! The mass/form rendering in your more recent posts is much better :)

Do you mostly draw from photos/drawings, or are some of these from life too? Keep it up, I really like this thread!

redpandafire
06-10-2010, 02:28 AM
@Tasp: thanks for the encouragement. :)

@jabuhrer: I draw from photos. I dont have enough money to go to school or hire a life model or setup a studio.... argh.

Anyhoo... Today's torso study felt really shameful. My pencil motion was stiff and rigid and I couldn't get any confidence in my line until about 10 minutes before it was over. What a day...

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8670/img008.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_009.jpg

AbuAmir
06-10-2010, 08:45 AM
I admire your dedication to draw on a daily basis.Cheers!

redpandafire
06-10-2010, 10:28 AM
@AbuAmir: Some days its hard to find the motivation to draw. Sometimes I feel I'm going nowhere, just running on and on forever with no end in sight. My art has improved since I started drawing (almost) daily, but my mood has been drifting downwards cuz I don't know where its taking me. Maybe its not taking me anywhere, maybe I'm not studying the right things for the field I want to go in. Who knows, I'm not guided by a teacher or a curriculum, its all very much instinct for me.

Tasp
06-10-2010, 03:43 PM
RedPandaFire- I'm pretty much teaching myself at this point. I go to a life drawing class occasionally but the monitor doesn't provide much in the way of instruction. I feel like I can relate to what you are talking about in your last post specifically about where it's taking you and how you are progressing. Here is what I've been doing and what has helped me-

If you are worried about where it is taking you: The first thing to think about is why you are drawing. You should draw because you like it, you find it challenging, rewarding and/or cathartic. I draw because it helps me unwind and because I like the challenges it presents me with whenever I try to draw something new or more complex. Also as someone with an overactive imagination it's fun to try and pull those random thoughts out of the air and put them down on paper.

If you have an end goal in mind that involves creating art the internet and your local schools, be they high schools or colleges (not going to assume, I have no idea how old you are), can provide a wealth of information on what you should be studying. Look into the field you want to pursue, find out what people in that field usually have in the way of degrees. Then, research those degrees, find what courses are required and try to mimic those studies in your own time. The other forums can provide a wealth of information on the subject as well if you spend some time sifting through them.

About your progress- I used to play organized sports and still am very active. However in all the years of practicing the same motions, moves and training I have noticed something that most other athletes (and even artists) can confirm. It is impossible to steadily progress at a set rate. No matter how much you practice, or how good you innately are, you will hit points where it's like running into a wall. You will feel like you are treading water, stuck in the same spot and not able to get better. This is in fact not the case, what is happening is your skills have hit a plateau. Everything you were learning has added up to this newer bigger level of skill that you are now trying to attain. In order to make that next move up and start improving you need to keep pushing with what you've been doing, keep challenging yourself and eventually you will wake up one day and realize that suddenly you are getting better again. The best analogy I've been able to come up with is that your conscious mind has progressed so far so quickly that your subconscious hasn't been able to keep up. The time you feel you aren't getting better is the time when your subconscious is cementing those skills into place and making them second nature. It is in my opinion the most important time to maintain regular practice.

All in all don't get discouraged! Keep practicing and keep challenging yourself and you will get better.

jabuhrer
06-10-2010, 05:05 PM
I agree 100% with Tasp's very insightful and thought provoking comment. Particularly the thoughts on conscious vs. subconscious. With that in mind, the only thing I would add is that I've found that many times my "plateau" periods (the times when I am discouraged because I feel like I am spinning my wheels and not progressing), many times I look back at those periods and realize that I was actually in the middle of a very consistent, productive phase where I was cranking out a lot of solid stuff. At the time, you may not feel like you're improving at the rate that you were before, but that doesn't mean you aren't producing quality work and participating in a vital learning process.

I'm 27 years old, I went through art school and I've worked in the "industry" for almost 5 years now...so I've been through the cycle of inspiration-> productivity-> good results-> burn out-> depression-> repeat many many times. Heck, that's why I'm here. I work as a 3D artist, I was getting burned out twiddling knobs on the computer all the time (again) and I decided to rebuild my atrophied drawing muscles and get into painting. Anyway, Tasp is right - don't get discouraged, just keep going the best you can. A small break here and there can be good for you, just be wary of the slippery slope that can lead to getting out of practice. It's hard to come back...trust me.

Sometimes I feel I'm going nowhere.

As long as you're creating artwork, you're never "going nowhere." The only way to go nowhere is to quit. Oh, by the way...has anyone ever read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance?" The whole point of that book is basically what we're talking about here: how to hold on to that spark that makes you pick up the pencil in the first place, and how to not get "stuck." How to maintain satisfaction. It's a good read. The gist of it is: if you are armed with the technical knowledge to solve problems that come up, but also the flexibility and creativity to carry you when technical knowledge isn't enough, then you'll be able to get out of your own way and allow yourself to go as far as you can go. But you gotta go through the rough times...not around them, and certainly don't stop or slow down in front of them. Anyway, sorry for rambling, heh, just thinking out loud. This is something that we all deal with from time to time.

Your last post was awesome, by the way.

redpandafire
06-10-2010, 05:43 PM
@Tasp and @jabuhrer: You two turned my entire day around. I can hardly express myself in words right now, so I'll do it by drawing after work tonight. I love to draw and I love to learn to draw, so theres no point in my slowing down now! Thanks again guys!

redpandafire
06-11-2010, 01:58 AM
Female torso study tonight. Little over an hour. Had a lot of fun but at the same time there was a torrent of thinking going on in my head. Weird how I'm able to think about three things at the same time, but i can barely balance a full coffee mug.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_010.jpg

jabuhrer
06-11-2010, 06:34 PM
Excellent post redpandafire! The values and rendering are wonderful here. You're definitely inspiring me to try to keep up :cool: No critiques at the moment...just looks like a solid sketchbook page to me :thumbsup:

By the way, if anyone is interested, I found an old blog post that I stumbled upon a while back that addresses some of the stuff we were talking about:

http://artsammich.blogspot.com/2010/02/creativity-expression-education-and-dip.html

This guy is an amazing artist. He addresses what he calls "the dip," which happens when you've acquired more knowledge & technical ability through practice, but at the same time your creativity and motivation starts to lag. It happens to all of us from time to time. Again, I agree with what he's saying here...if you stick it out and keep pushing through, you'll keep moving closer to your full potential, even if it seems like you're going nowhere.

redpandafire
06-11-2010, 06:56 PM
@jabuhrer: WOW what an incredibly accurate blog post! And the guy has jaw-dropping artwork to boot! Thanks for that link, it truly is inspirational!

redpandafire
06-13-2010, 08:23 PM
I actually was not pleased at this one at all. It was drawn really slowly, really unsure of the masses and volumes, really hesitant and overall just a pain to work with. You might not see all that though because of how I hid all my chicken scratch beneath the shading, but everything about this drawing came out differently than what I had hoped.

But I learn even from failure. And I'll keep on drawing until I get it right.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_003.jpg

redpandafire
06-21-2010, 01:50 AM
Studying the leg today, with lots of help from Wikipedia and various stock photos.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_005.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_004.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_006.jpg

jabuhrer
06-21-2010, 05:32 PM
Whoa! This is the best post yet. I really love the shading technique here...looks like you're using the side of the pencil to block in some masses. Excellent!

vicmonty
06-26-2010, 11:35 AM
Hey, I like your sb and thanks for stopping by mine. May I suggest that you do a few hand studies? Head over to the hand workshop here (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showthread.php?f=199&t=619548&page=1&pp=15) for ref. You admitted in your sketch that you can't draw hands right? Attack them. It's not that you can't right now, it's that you won't. The workshop was fun to do. I did about 5 of them and that was all I could handle before I got bored. You can also pick a hand section from your favorite anatomy book. Either way, you have a nice sb here and you're consistant! I'll go months without posting...I really like your first photoshop face painting too!

jjacobo
06-27-2010, 06:40 AM
I think that a lot of these are quite good. I do notice some proportional problems and I think they start on the skeletal level. It seems to me that you shape the muscles and other layers to fit the final forms that you know the body should take rather than really building the form up to that whole. I would like to see more careful skeletal studies. I would love to see a multi layer drawing, from skeleton, to muscle/tendon/ligaments, and fat and fully fleshed figures. I'm not sure how much of this is from imagination but I am curious to find out.

redpandafire
06-27-2010, 01:11 PM
@jabuhrer: thanks!

@vicmonty: Like many people, the hands scare me. But at the moment I'm also plagued with being busy learning 3D. I just have to sit down today or tomorrow and just do it xD. Do one thing a day that scares me!

@jjacobo: Thanks for the tips. I was doing this subconciously and I did notice the proportion problems but had no idea what went wrong. I mostly draw the bones from imagination, but don't have proper understanding of how large they are with relation to other bones, so most of the time its so off. Will be working on it, thanks.

redpandafire
06-29-2010, 02:59 AM
I heard Bargue plates were popular so I tried to do a few. Embarassingly, I suck at it. People definately deserve more credit for this stuff, its time consuming! Will try again sooon....

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG-barque.jpg

jjacobo
06-29-2010, 04:39 AM
Bargue...yuck!

Time-consuming != worthwhile

;)

jabuhrer
06-29-2010, 05:15 AM
Very nice :thumbsup:

redpandafire
06-29-2010, 11:56 AM
@jjacobo: Lol, you're right for the most part. But I didn't spend any time at all on the shading. It was just flat tones done for the sake of understanding depth. The hardest part was figuring out why Bargue decided on the construction lines that he did. Its the most fascinating part of the whole thing actually and I spent 80% of my time on just that. I want to construct as well as he did.

@jabuhrer: thanks!

redpandafire
06-30-2010, 03:03 AM
Second Bargue plate study. More attention to values and neatness (sort of). I know i'm just copying a drawing of a cast model, but I'm actually learning a good amount about how to draw from life.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_001.jpg

CKPinson
07-02-2010, 03:44 PM
I think your sketchs are nice- But Hands themselves are an ART- seriously, I sucked at hands hard so I bought a sketchbook and filled it solely with different hands until I got comfortable taking the time to complete them whereas before I'd generally sketch them out- It still takes me a few tries but I do find the practice pays off!

jabuhrer
07-02-2010, 04:01 PM
Re: CKPinson's comment: I agree. I found that Bridgman's "Book of 100 Hands" was a great resource for that. The book gets a lot of criticism because it is simply a series of line drawings (rather than photos, fully rendered images, anatomical illustrations, etc.) with very brief notes and little instruction...but I think those critiques miss the point: it is a great resource for copying, practicing and memorizing numerous configurations of the hand. I spent a period copying every sketch in the book, and I found that it helped tremendously: the hands in my drawings from imagination were much better, I could "fill in the blanks" during life drawing sessions where the hands were obscured or difficult to read (rather than ignoring them or half ass sketching them as I had before) and the general proportions and construction of the hand improved a lot. Just my $0.02.

cszhuchao
07-13-2010, 03:05 AM
I followed your gesture drawing tips here. I have to say this thread is one of the most encouraging threads I've ever read here. Normally I'm too shy to say anything. :-)

I'm a self learner too. BTW, your work is far better than mine. I adore your shading! I can fully understand how you feel because I have this feeling from time to time as well. Well, tasp's enlightening comments about the study process reminds me of what my school teacher (not related with arts) used to say before. She said studying is like climbing staircases. Sometimes the stairs are packed, so you could go up quickly but of course very exhausted. But sometimes there will be a long platform between two stairs, people tend to stop here because the walking is more relaxing and they could not see where the platform leads. So when you are in this stage, you have to keep going since one day you will get the end of the platform and normally the next is a big step up. So you did the right thing - daily sketch. Your sketch is better and better. You are my example. I'd like to do daily sketch too!

BTW, is you sketch life drawing or imitating the ref books/photos? I'm too shy to do any life gesture drawing in front of the public. There is once I did so in a tram, the people I was targeting figured it out and walked away and others looked at me strangely.... Ever since I lost my courage. Anybody
has similar experience? Any tips to overcome this awkward feeling? Thanks! PS: redpandafire, hope I am not off the topic.

Chao

dlthomas
07-13-2010, 10:13 PM
Thank you for helping me with the graphics card thread - I clicked on your sketchbook and think I can help you too! I specialise in illustration and drawing animation by hand so can give you some tips straight from art school -

Steps -
Find out where you are
Find out how to practice
Experiment

Finding out where you are:

Your rendering is exceptional, you have shown that you can draw from reference very well indeed. Therefore this first step is often the hardest. To find out where we were (even after 5 years A Levels and diplomas in art) the first thing they did in university was to make us draw something from memory. In your case I guess it will be the human form, which isn't easy.

The purpose is to find out what you actually know about the standard form before you sit in front of it. After doing this exercise you will be able to clearly identify forms that you know well and others that you don't. Its extremely valuable and will help you improvise in the future. After all, if you know the form like the back of your hand - you can draw it doing anything from any angle.

Finding out how to practice:

Photographs and diagrams are very good reference. You can do that very well now however, so I'd encourage you to draw from life. Start with some still life then move on to life drawing.

Definitely go to life drawing sessions. I still go to them even though I've left University. Just search in your local area and you should find something. They're usually v inexpensive.

Until you can do that a very good (free) reference site is posemaniacs.com . Look for the tool on there that gives you a time limit of 30 - 90 secs per pose (thats typically what you'll get in speed life drawing).

Experiment:

You look as if you can use pencils very well. To build your knowledge and improve your technique try other mediums (paint, pen/ink, charcoal etc). If you go to life drawing classes, they will probably encourage you to do this too.

Study colour, drapery, hair, gestures and weight as you go along. Also look into illustration a little if you want to eventually make stylised imaginary characters.


Affordable reference books for drawing I can recommend are anything by Barrington Barber. I used him when I first started out and still use him now. In terms of draftmanship he covers everything. A popular one is also Burne Hogarth, although due to his articulation I think that his books are overrated.

Good Luck!

cszhuchao
07-14-2010, 01:14 AM
The posemaniacs site is fantastic! Thanks a lot!

redpandafire
07-14-2010, 01:28 AM
@dlthomas: Thank you VERY much for this information! I'm starting my very first life drawing class next week. =)

@cszhuchao: I also draw from reference photos. Its not that I'm shy to draw from people in the streets, but sometimes I find its a bit rude when I don't ask for permission, and secondly I draw a bit too slow to capture everything I want lol.

Its really great to have a life or 3D model to work from, because you can just change your view to understand whats really going on in the form you're studying. I try to draw people's ZBrush models because of this reason actually. gotta stop copying just the shapes and start to understand what CREATES those shapes.

Also, your metaphor is lovely. I think it applies exactly to my situation right now!

dlthomas
07-14-2010, 01:39 AM
To both of you - I find coffee shops and malls good places to sketch people. In coffee shops people are too relaxed to notice and in malls their too busy looking elsewhere!

cszhuchao
07-14-2010, 02:01 AM
@redpandafire: Thanks for initiating such an encouraging and inspiring thread. Learn a lot from all posts. Thinking of starting my sketch thread too. ps, the timing issue is totally true.... T_T

@dlthomas: Thanks for another great tip! The mall idea is interesting because normally I'm the one who's busy looking elsewhere. :-)

redpandafire
07-15-2010, 03:34 AM
@cszhuchao: Start a thread soon. it really motivated me to post as much as i can. ;)

Today I'm posting some sketches. I'm starting to draw from imagination more, and thinking in terms of "see the plane, figure out what body part it belongs to, then draw the line". Not sure if that makes sense. But I'm trying to be less technical and just draw what I feel is right.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_007.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_005-1.jpg
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_004-1.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
07-15-2010, 04:30 AM
Great determination - lots of good drawings/studies!

cszhuchao
07-15-2010, 05:36 AM
Wa... Really impressed by your lines. Can feel the force and subtle shape change. Well done!

CKPinson
07-15-2010, 03:26 PM
Tricky to go from using references to just imagination- A nice middle ground is where I like to try and be- Start with a rough sketch from the imagination then correct it with some reference material then tweak with some more imagination- I find that if I start with a reference that it interferes too much with my ultimate goal, you know- It may cause me to sketch the refernce too closely or use a references pose even though I had something entirely different in mind so I've attempted to stay away from starting with a reference (photo) unless of course it is a real life sketch or portrait- then BY ALL MEANS tell you model to strike a pose :)

I love drawing from Real Life objects and people nowadays- used to primarily use photos. Or at least will have a model pose then photo it if I don't have the time to complete a sketch there. I also picked up an armiture of a man and a woman at the local art store- VERY handy.. Even shows distinct muscle tone, joint positions and correct movement- They've come a long way with these.

redpandafire
07-16-2010, 10:21 PM
@Gord-MacDonald and cszhuchao: Thank yoU!
@CKPinson: Wow. I'd like to know what kind of armature you picked up. And I totally get what you mean about reference being a crutch. I'm trying to wean myself off of it as well!

Todays sketch was 60% imagination, 40% reference, and 200% erasing and retrying! :wip:


http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_009-1.jpg

CKPinson
07-19-2010, 01:06 PM
For ME: Victoria Secret makes it difficult to avoid photo reference :)
as for the armature I finally found the name of it (had it as a gift and never had the box but it is well worth it's weight in gold): Art S. Buck Artist Model
can be purchased at several places, male female and even African, and so on...
I lay out my composition roughly, rough pose of character then correct pose using Artist Model. It really does help though! And here (http://www.enasco.com/product/9726806) is a link for one place that sells it but I'm sure you can find others, I saw them at a local store but then again you pay tax on it vs online.

redpandafire
07-20-2010, 11:06 AM
For ME: Victoria Secret makes it difficult to avoid photo reference :)
as for the armature I finally found the name of it (had it as a gift and never had the box but it is well worth it's weight in gold): Art S. Buck Artist Model
can be purchased at several places, male female and even African, and so on...
I lay out my composition roughly, rough pose of character then correct pose using Artist Model. It really does help though! And here (http://www.enasco.com/product/9726806) is a link for one place that sells it but I'm sure you can find others, I saw them at a local store but then again you pay tax on it vs online.

Great, I'm totally buying one of these. Excellent landmarks. I wonder if they ship to Canada?

Update today: wanted to sculpt, but had no clay. Since I have a computer.... gave it a try.

redpandafire
07-20-2010, 11:19 PM
Something I did today while wishing the work day was over:

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_002.jpg

jabuhrer
07-21-2010, 05:17 PM
Excellent. I'm loving the more imaginative stuff.

nelchee
07-21-2010, 11:11 PM
Not bad at all for a self-proclaimed beginner, I actually think your figures from imagination are much better than mine, and you're definitely on a good way :)

redpandafire
07-22-2010, 03:16 AM
@jabuhrer and @nelchee: Thanks!!

I'm not sure if this should go in my "sketchbook" but at least its anatomy practice lol. Working on my Zsketching in ZBrush. ;)

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/female-figure-001.jpg

redpandafire
07-27-2010, 02:11 AM
Todays update...

I find my face drawings are still very weak. Usually because I lose the symmetry or I overwork it, etc. I tried to fix both those things in my daily sketch tonight, but I feel as though I've barely improved. Theres something fundamentally wrong with them I think. I even tried to draw anime...

Everyone else draws such beautiful, youthfull faces, and I struggle to even get something on paper (or this case Photoshop). Sooo unfair.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/female-faces-001.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/female-faces-002.jpg

Also did some sculpt of a bust in ZBrush. Ended up extending it past the bust tho. o_O

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/female-bust-001.jpg

JackZhang
07-27-2010, 02:12 PM
Todays update...

I find my face drawings are still very weak. Usually because I lose the symmetry or I overwork it, etc. I tried to fix both those things in my daily sketch tonight, but I feel as though I've barely improved. Theres something fundamentally wrong with them I think. I even tried to draw anime...

Everyone else draws such beautiful, youthfull faces, and I struggle to even get something on paper (or this case Photoshop). Sooo unfair.



Mastering comes from progression not perfection. Nothing comes easily and quickly so be patient.
I've been following your pad for couple of weeks. I really enjoyed watching your progress, until recently.

4 advises:
1. stay away from manga.
2. stay away form drawing only female manga.
3. stay away from 'imagining stuff'.
4. stay away from zbrush.

here are the explanations:
1. Everything that we draw, manga or not, comes from reality. manga is a special expression that simplifies the reality. Before you simplify anything you need to fully understand its original form. Good
manga artist has years of traditional drawing trainings. I strongly suggest you do the same.

2. A true artist does not limit himself/herself with preferences. There are 2 sexes, 3 major races, 6 different age groups that form a huge pool of characters with tons of variations. If you absolutely have to pick manga style at this stage, at least practice on the variations.

3. 'imagining stuff' or the so called 'design' is a two edges knife for anyone who starts to learn art. The subject is fascinating yet dangerous. Design is nothing but resembling your visual memory and expressing with innovated modification. If you had never seen anything in your life, it's hard to imagining stuff because you have nothing to build on. To receive better result of design, you need to see and draw A LOT MORE of reality.

4. Personally I don't think zbrush is a good media for you at this stage. What you should be focusing on are shapes, volumes, lights/shadows, perspectives, and anatomy. Everything mentioned above are like your blood and bones, flesh and soul. Zbrush is nothing but a media, an outfit. It takes a mother 9 months to form a child, and it takes a minute for the child to put on the outfit.

Besides the boring and demotivate lecture, here are some motivating comments: my colleague and I really love the practices in post 1 (all of them), first study in post 2, second study in post 11, second study in post 14, post 20, post 24, post 33, first post in 42.

you are talented and you are doing great. keep it up and keep yourself on the right track. good luck.

redpandafire
07-27-2010, 04:37 PM
@JackZhang: Wow, you're post made me realize how much I've neglected life drawing. I fully understand your view, and it has been an awakening experience for me to read your suggestions. I immensely appreciate the time that you and your friend spent reviewing my sketchbook. I had no idea that pros were peeking in to see what us little noobies were doodling!

I will be devoting more time to life drawings now. Thank you agian. =)

JackZhang
07-27-2010, 08:01 PM
@JackZhang: Wow, you're post made me realize how much I've neglected life drawing. I fully understand your view, and it has been an awakening experience for me to read your suggestions. I immensely appreciate the time that you and your friend spent reviewing my sketchbook. I had no idea that pros were peeking in to see what us little noobies were doodling!

I will be devoting more time to life drawings now. Thank you agian. =)

your skills show that you aren't much of a 'noob'. you have good eyes and good hands. all you need is the right direction and right amount of practice. If drawings like that from you make you a noob, well i draw stick figures, so try to entitle me with a rank :)

In fact, I was planning to ask your something when my hands aren't too full. I really like one of your figure drawing in post 42. I'd like to ask for your permission to use your drawing as an inspirational source and make a 3d bust. It will not be used for commercial purpose. Full credit will be given, as well as the link that goes to your CG portfolio. Feel free to refuse if it doesn't interest you. No hard feelings. Thanks.

redpandafire
07-27-2010, 08:46 PM
I think you would make a great bust out of the poses. Please take the pose you wish, I'd be honored to see the bust when you're done. =)

redpandafire
07-29-2010, 12:45 AM
Another 14th century Charles Bargue study. The one on the left is incomplete, and I’m not completely satisfied with the one on the right. Its probably hard to tell but these drawings are only a few inches diagonal. Much smaller than the size of my palm. It was only supposed to be a quick study during 15 minute breaks at work.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/bargue-004.jpg

JackZhang
07-29-2010, 05:57 AM
Another 14th century Charles Bargue study. The one on the left is incomplete, and I’m not completely satisfied with the one on the right. Its probably hard to tell but these drawings are only a few inches diagonal. Much smaller than the size of my palm. It was only supposed to be a quick study during 15 minute breaks at work.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/bargue-004.jpg



Those are awesome. and gratz on job at gameloft.

redpandafire
07-30-2010, 01:41 AM
@JackZhang: Thanks! Although I have been working as a tester at Gameloft since last September. Its just that I recently updated my profile to show it. haha.

Today's update...

Study of the Michael Freeman photograph of a Khartoum, Sudanese woman working on the cotton fields. (Note: the hands and feet weren't very clear in the photo as most of it was burried in cotton; leaving that area completely unfinished)

I need lots of help with form, as I don't feel what I did brought out the form of her folds in all areas of her cloths.

In any case, it was a very interesting and fun experience for me. I will definately be looking up more Michael Freeman photography subjects.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/khartoum-sudan-cotton-picker.jpg

redpandafire
08-03-2010, 01:29 AM
Kind of rushed this study. You can probably tell by the scribbling and near-cartoony look of the left-most girl. For some reason I like to draw right to left....hmm

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_001-1.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG.jpg

redpandafire
08-11-2010, 12:43 AM
Random study...

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_002-1.jpg

redpandafire
08-17-2010, 01:47 AM
Not sketching + going on vacation = forgetting all the basic rules of drawing This was a quick 20 minute study, but my God did I struggle…

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_003-1.jpg

Cisc0
08-17-2010, 09:25 AM
what's wrong with it?

jabuhrer
08-17-2010, 06:06 PM
Looks great! Love all of the new stuff.

Ha- I draw from right to left too...probably because I'm left handed.

redpandafire
08-29-2010, 06:25 PM
@Cisc0: I just don't like how dark it is (because of how many scribbles were underneath and I had to hide it all)

@jabuhrer: At least you have a reason for drawing right to left. I'm right handed xD.


Todays update....

Simple planes study 1, 2, and 3.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_001-2.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG-1.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_002-2.jpg

redpandafire
09-05-2010, 02:10 AM
So today, just played some music and tried to have fun! I got lost in some of the shadow details in the one with the figure laying down, but quickly moved on after that point. I tried not to get myself bogged down by details and just let my hand do all the seeing so to speak. :p

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_001-3.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG-2.jpg

killermachine
09-05-2010, 10:26 AM
hey this is some great stuff your doing. Really liking these skecthes :buttrock:

redpandafire
09-08-2010, 01:16 AM
Thanks killermachine!!







Just chugging along...

Today’s female study, now with more clothing! Unfortunately, I had to stop due to lightning and not having electricity and stuff.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_001-4.jpg

redpandafire
09-23-2010, 05:01 PM
Today's update: I can't draw hair.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/oekaki-ref-00002.jpg

flingster
09-26-2010, 12:57 AM
great thread...great work...keep up the good work and keep posting. :applause:

soundwaves
09-26-2010, 02:27 AM
great thread...great work...keep up the good work and keep posting.
Agreed :wavey:

redpandafire
09-27-2010, 05:46 AM
@flingster and @soundwav: Thanks very much for the encouragement!




Todays study, one with reference, one completely imaginary.

I'm gonna try to continue this trend until I gradually phase into mostly imaginary with reference used when needed (instead of it being my whole crutch, as it is now).

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_005-2.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/imag-1001.jpg

jabuhrer
09-28-2010, 03:39 AM
Excellent!

Whaddya mean you can't draw hair? All of these recent posts have great hair, imo. You make it look easy! :bowdown:

redpandafire
10-06-2010, 05:22 AM
@jabuhrer: Thanks!! I guess I just didn't have the patience to draw the hair. lol




Today's update....

Quick sketches, anatomically pretty poor. I was in a hurry to get these done before driving to work. Trying to get faster and faster but it only gets more and more error prone. =(

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG-3.jpg

redpandafire
10-11-2010, 05:04 PM
... Today's update. Child's face. 12 minute quick sketch.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_003-2.jpg

Gord-MacDonald
10-11-2010, 06:12 PM
lovely strong drawings! :thumbsup:

redpandafire
10-14-2010, 04:29 AM
@Gord-MacDonald: Thank you!



Today's drawing is my friend Krista:

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/the_good_version.jpg

McWolfe
10-25-2010, 03:44 PM
I have nothing constructive to add, but I just wanted to share that it's threads like this that inspires me to try to improve day by day. I do have a long way to go before I reach your skill though.

Good Work!

redpandafire
10-27-2010, 05:33 PM
@McWolfe: Thank you, and I hope i can provide you with some support in your journey to becomming a brilliant artist!




Today's update...

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_008.jpg

I’ve been neglecting charcoal for a while. Thought it was time to do a bit of practicing. Oh and I can’t draw ears…

redpandafire
11-04-2010, 06:32 PM
My first attempt at painting. Pretty rewarding and fun. :)

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/fruit101.jpg

redpandafire
11-06-2010, 06:30 AM
...Todays update. More fruit. An apple this time. Spent more time on it too.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/fruit102-1.jpg

Splinter
11-09-2010, 12:22 AM
I really like the work you have posted in your sketchbook. Very inspirational! :bounce:

redpandafire
11-15-2010, 04:56 AM
@Splinter: Thank you for the kind words!


... Today's Update: Plunging back into value studies.

I decided my previous study today was just not gonna cut it. So I did another value study, and this time actually took the values into account.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_010-1.jpg

AJ
11-15-2010, 02:19 PM
Beautiful!

redpandafire
11-29-2010, 04:12 PM
Thanks AJ!!





Today's update: A little work in progress. First time painting a person. I think I bit more than I can chew though.

http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6523/piratesa.jpg

jabuhrer
11-29-2010, 05:45 PM
Wow. All of your skills and knowledge is translating to painting magnificently!

Splinter
11-29-2010, 09:29 PM
First time painting a person. I think I bit more than I can chew though.

I think your doing very well. I like the use of light and shadow. I can't wait to see the finished piece.

Cisc0
12-01-2010, 10:11 AM
you're doing really good! ur figures have a great sculptural feeling. keep the good work coming

redpandafire
12-02-2010, 05:21 PM
@jabuhrer: For me personally, this has been mind-blowing! Everything studied under pencil / chalk is completely transferable to color and painting. I just don't have words to describe the feeling lol.

@Splinter: Thank you, me too!

@Cisc0: Thank yoU!!



Today's update...

Painting of my friend Billy, done in photoshop. This is getting really fun...!

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/billygoat-1.jpg

redpandafire
12-06-2010, 02:40 AM
Today's update...


I thought I'd try something different. I got tired of always rehersing very specific steps. Today I just wanted to paint something that looked good to me.


http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/hike-2010.jpg

flingster
12-06-2010, 07:53 PM
just wanted to drop by and say..enjoying your posts...so keep em coming..always enjoy seeing an update to this thread..thankie :thumbsup:

redpandafire
12-07-2010, 08:26 PM
@flingster: Thanks! Its great to know people are actually enjoying my thread!




Today's update....

Similar to last update, another storybook experiment. This is me and my dear friend Krista on an evening where she decided to jump into some puddles and wet me.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/C5-puddles.jpg

redpandafire
12-19-2010, 02:22 AM
Todays update.......

One more cartoony sketch.

And then back to life studies (from photographs). I want to see the kinds of values others are able to get from their life studies. I’m not getting those….


http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_014.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/concept-7-goodbye-montreal-1.jpg

redpandafire
12-27-2010, 03:41 PM
Just a very quick update today. A drawing of my friend Krista's tatoo. I found her to be in lovely sunshine lighting and decided to draw the moment.
http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_016_mom_dad_tatoo.jpg

NR43
01-06-2011, 06:17 AM
What a lovely thread!

Been a while since I saw such an inspiring anatomy thread to be honest.
You seem to draw well controlled, which makes your work a joy to look at.

One critique I'd like to mention though (and it was mentioned before by Jack Zhang in post 54 (http://forums.cgsociety.org/showpost.php?p=6622967&postcount=54) ), is that you should vary more in your subjects. Draw old people, fat people, tall, short, round, square, triangular people... in short step away from the average "beautiful" girls.

A great way to get reference is take a camera and go into a large city on busy places and shoot some random scenes. Or even better, take a sketchbook, sit down in town and draw.
(that will help you draw faster too).

But wow... am I glad I ran into your thread :D
So thanks for sharing, please continue.

redpandafire
01-10-2011, 01:59 AM
@NR43: Jeez I need to listen to Jack more. Thanks for reminding me of that, I'm going to commit more thoroughly to both your advices!






..... Today's update:

Quick pencil sketch while watching some standup comedy. Hehe.


http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_022.jpg

JM-art
01-10-2011, 02:47 AM
I love beatifull drawings of beatifull girls!!:beer:

Don´t you use Zbrush for sculpt? you can make great stuff for sure.

Cheers, good and productive 2011.

redpandafire
01-12-2011, 11:54 PM
Thanks JM-art. I havent used ZBrush in months lol. I should give it a shot later.






.... Today's update.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/tumblr_lexdaor90C1qajw9io1_12801.jpg

redpandafire
01-13-2011, 08:44 PM
.... Today's update. Feeling sick. Trying to do fewer graphite work and more photoshop work. Rebuilding my confidence for colors, so sticking to monochrome for now. :p

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/lills-001.jpg

redpandafire
01-15-2011, 09:45 PM
.... Today's update. Still trying to learn photoshop. It's hard going from graphite to Wacom. The world of digital is sooooo different.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/lills-002.jpg

redpandafire
01-20-2011, 05:38 AM
Todays sketch... Looking in the mirror, feeling inadequate / angry / frustrated?

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_024.jpg

NR43
01-20-2011, 11:43 AM
Euhm...why? (if I may ask?)

jabuhrer
01-20-2011, 03:02 PM
Looking good Chua! Your Photoshop stuff is looking awesome. I'm really impressed with the progress and productivity you accomplished in 2010. Cheers!

redpandafire
01-25-2011, 05:19 AM
@NR43: Ohh the usual problems between boys and girls. I'm just channeling it through art rather than ranting (hopefully). Thanks for asking.

@jabuhrer: Thanks for the kind words! I love how your sketchbook is improving as well!




Today's sketch....

The fact of knowing the universe plain sucks sometimes.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_030.jpg

redpandafire
01-25-2011, 05:14 PM
Today's sketch..... I'm heavy handed, or just mentally limited without a mentor.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_031.jpg

redpandafire
01-28-2011, 05:00 AM
Today's update....

This drawing was just a quick(ish) value study with the prismacolor col-erase! There is so much more potential in wax pencil crayons than there is in standard graphite (in my opinion). I don't think I can go back!

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_033.jpg

redpandafire
01-31-2011, 02:36 AM
Today's update...

I re-designed my previous painting for my friend Krista. Hoping she'll like it.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/kristar-medium-001.jpg

redpandafire
02-05-2011, 08:58 PM
Giving charcoal another chance. I actually blended using toilet paper. Otherwise, done on newsprint with a flat stick of charcoal. Proportions are off here. I never seem to get those right. :p

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_035.jpg

redpandafire
02-08-2011, 02:29 AM
I tried to focus on the values.... But i ended up doing it for two hours straight. It gets really tedious after a while. And the eyes are overworked. Oh well.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_040.jpg

redpandafire
02-10-2011, 10:12 PM
A couple study cards drawn during lunch break at work. The first was actually charcoal on lined paper, but I used Photoshop to remove the lines. Still... it's a pretty roughed up image.

The second is just a prismacolor pencil.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_042.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/IMG_041.jpg

redpandafire
02-11-2011, 10:32 PM
... Today's Update. Well I lost my job today (QA job) due to a work shortage. Oh well, I was prepared for this. And at least now I have more time to study.

On the bright side, I managed to make a charcoal drawing at work.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/IMG_044_1.jpg

soundwaves
02-11-2011, 10:53 PM
Beautiful stuff :eek:

Splinter
02-11-2011, 11:20 PM
I'm really sorry to hear about your job. That really sucks. On the other hand I'm glad to hear that you're looking toward the brighter side of things.

Your latest drawing here is AWESOME I really like the composition and the control you have over the shadows. Really cool :buttrock:. A lot of the time, my eyes draw toward one location of a piece, but with this one I enjoy the entirety of it. So in other words thank you for the inspiration.

flingster
02-12-2011, 12:04 AM
its sounds like a cliche but i've been there and new doors always open...new possibilities, new opportunities...its not a good thing when you're living it but it can ultimately end up a new horizon...take it as it comes, don't get down or be bitter about it...rise to the challenge is my advice and you'll sail through choppy waters wondering what all the fuss was about. its the way of the world at the moment unfortunately so take it on the chin...move onward and upwards....and never underestimate or undersell yourself...its clear you have talent make sure your next employer knows it....and good luck. :arteest: :thumbsup:

redpandafire
02-13-2011, 03:48 PM
@soundwaves: Thank you!

@Splinter: Thank you for the kind words. :)

@flingster: I will sure try! Thanks for the motivation.






... I just thought I'd post the final drawing.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/_MG_3433.jpg

redpandafire
02-14-2011, 03:11 AM
... Today's update. I couldn't do a color painting in photoshop (my brain refuses to process color). So I did a monochrome sketch instead (WIP). Sigh, maybe next time I'll finally make the leap into color.

P.S. Just to be clear, I can color; if you imagine a grade school student with crayons. That's how I color right now.


http://www.chuayou.com/personal/portrait_daylight_studio_001.jpg

NR43
02-14-2011, 04:40 AM
"my brain refuses to process color"

I'm assuming that you are trying to paint in color from imagination...

Try making a painting in color from life.
Any subject will do, but it's best to start with simple stuff (still life).
I've drawn in b&w for 5 years and I recently switched to painting in color, having the same issues as you are: a block. Painting in color from life allowed me to break through that wall.
Color is hard so don't be too discouraged when it doesn't seem to work out as well as you hoped at first.

Some excellent work here since I last visited!
Good luck.

redpandafire
02-17-2011, 02:23 AM
@NR43: Thanks, I'm a bit downed that I can't seem to grasp the basics of colors, but I'm glad I'm not the only one struggling. Thanks for the encouragement!





.... Today's Update:

Did not have much time to work on my painting this week. Just been exhausted and busy. But I wanted to post a little update to make sure it stays alive.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/portrait_daylight_studio_002.jpg

Bouke285
02-17-2011, 03:19 AM
I have been in a few art classes over the last few months and I see no reason why you should use lack of a mentor as an excuse for not getting to where you want to be. Your drawings aren't bad, and they are getting noticeably better as you post. A teacher will critique your work, teach you some techniques, tell you to observe, and practice. You can do all of these things on your own and gain valuable, usually much more thorough, critiques online in communities such as this one. Most of the work spent learning in a classroom is spent out of the classroom as it is, the masters of the past had no one who knew everything, they figured things out on their own by understanding the world. If you had a teacher you still wouldn't see magical results, nothing will make it easy. I like your drawings keep it up!

About the color, it is nothing but a step. Think of it as you did when you learned to add form to shape. You have the understanding of value down, color is nothing but changing the mood.

Nekotiq
02-19-2011, 02:14 PM
I think I can help with the color perspective. I think learning the color wheel and color harmonies will improve your color, knowing that tints are the highlights with a mixture of the color white and shades are the shadows or the mixture of the color black. Knowing primary and secondary colors and the difference also helps. Well that is mostly everything for color and since you know your values which I have seen throughout your pieces even with the scale shown I think it wouldn't be hard transitioning to color.

redpandafire
03-09-2011, 12:42 AM
@Bouke285: Thanks for this! I actually felt the same when I first started, but until I read up on color theory, it just didn't click. Now I feel a bit more confident going from greyscales to color!

@Nekotiq: Thanks again for this tip! I really think it was bang-on for what I was trying to study.


Here is my coloring process so far:
http://www.chuayou.com/personal/portrait_daylight_studio_003.jpg

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/portrait_daylight_studio_003.jpg

redpandafire
03-20-2011, 02:19 AM
... Today's Update:

Some face construction and gesture studies.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk3_face0301.jpg

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk3_face04.jpg

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk3_gestures01.jpg

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk3_gestures02.jpg

vicmonty
03-21-2011, 12:29 AM
always a pleasure visiting your SB. what type of sb do you use? Awesome stuff! Inspiring stuff!

vicmonty
03-21-2011, 12:30 AM
How was it adding color to that image of the woman in the purple dress? what did you do? overlay layer? multiply?

redpandafire
03-21-2011, 01:41 AM
hey vicmonty, thanks for the comments! I colored the woman with a Color layer, but it looked really bland at first. It's hard to explain what I did after that to make more convincing colors, but basically I was missing color temperature in my color theory. And I actually got a glimpse of it in this photography video on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmgkRYiukK4

After that I was in "mad research" mode trying to understand color temperature and white balancing and how it would apply to paints. So in my mind, i was painting with light "heat" instead of my basic perception of color. It actually sounds kind of crazy when I type it that way, but it really is the abstract of how I painted it.

As for the SB... umm, photoshop is my sketchbook these days. I'm actually saving on pencils and paper lol.

vicmonty
03-21-2011, 04:25 AM
hey what do you think of the new asus slate? runs windows 7! photoshop tablet? what!

redpandafire
03-26-2011, 02:48 AM
@vicmonty: I've never used it. But being a tech geek, I looked it up. It seems incredible, hardware-wise. lol. But a bit pricey at $1k. And also I'm not sure how good the stylus sensitivity and pressure would be on it. I just use a second hand Wacom Intuos 3 I bought from eBay and like a two year old computer lol.






.... Today's Update: Construction of the upper torso homework. Selected two from the batch that I drew up this week.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk4_fig03.jpg

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_Wk4_fig05.jpg

Akinsthestarchild93
03-26-2011, 04:02 PM
How do you draw facial features perfectly? I've been having
some trouble with drawing my own and could use some helpful advice.

redpandafire
03-26-2011, 05:33 PM
The face is an extremely difficult subject for me. You can easily "over construct" the face because of its many many subtle features and end up with a mess. You can have a fantastic facial gesture, but fall short in the construction phase by not understanding the subtle plane shifts on the skull. On top of that, people often scrutinize faces more than they would, say the feet which is another complicated structure.

I really have no fast answer for drawing faces, because to be honest I struggle with it myself. The best thing to do tho is to have a reference. Be it a statue or book, know the hard "landmarks" of the head, and where the soft fatty tissues are. Draw them until its easy to locate them in space relative to one another.

I like this link here because it shows the general planes and is a good start for constructing the smaller facial features: http://artofpros.deviantart.com/art/Face-planes-reference-173177639

I should add that to my agenda of sheets I need to draw. I'll post it up when I finish them. ;)

gregoo23
03-27-2011, 03:10 AM
Some really good work and studies. I especially like the girl digital painting, good job!

Talaria
03-31-2011, 08:16 PM
Hey!
Really cool muscle studies.
The feature studies of the face look very nice.
I also like your girl coloring process.

redpandafire
04-02-2011, 02:49 AM
@gregoo23 and @Talaria: Thank you guys very much!





... Today's Update: Lower torso construction. Really not happy about the perspective. Got kind of frustrated and stop for today.

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/ChuaYou_Wk5_fig01.jpg

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/ChuaYou_Wk5_fig02.jpg

redpandafire
04-05-2011, 01:25 AM
... Today's Update: We're onto the legs this week and I thought I'd share a construction image on the major muscle groups. Since there were so many muscles to cover, we had to group a lot of them into basic shapes (eggs, tubes, etc).


http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/ChuaYou_Wk6_fig03.jpg

redpandafire
04-06-2011, 02:52 AM
Tried to figure out the locations of the major leg muscles in space today. Not the cleanest work and would certainly be easier with a live model (that isn't me).

http://i768.photobucket.com/albums/xx325/redpandafire/ChuaYou_Wk6_fig04.jpg

Cisc0
04-06-2011, 10:08 AM
great studies Chua, love the "flow" of your lines

soundwaves
04-08-2011, 03:38 AM
always a pleasure visiting your SB. what type of sb do you use? Awesome stuff! Inspiring stuff!
Right, and now you are going digital. The character of the charcoal/pencils will make a transition into your digital drawings. You are one of those guys/gals that cannot touch a pencil to paper without making something beautiful.

redpandafire
04-21-2011, 10:27 PM
@Cisc0: Thank you!!

@soundwaves: Wow! Thanks for that comment!




... Today's Update: Some 5-6 minute gesture drawings today. I'm pretty damn slow at gestures, but I picked two that I liked from the batch.

http://www.chuayou.com/fine_art/images/ges_0005.jpg

redpandafire
04-30-2011, 01:52 AM
... Today's Update: Some more charcoal on newsprint. Trying to retain as much Hampton technique as I can while its still fresh. :p



http://www.chuayou.com/fine_art/images/ChuaYou_29-04-2011-Fig02.jpg

redpandafire
04-30-2011, 10:56 PM
... Today's Update: Slightly frustrated. There is nothing more of a buzz kill when you set up a figure, only to realize you lost yourself in the process! Noobie mistake, I'm sure. But for today, I've had enough. Tomorrow is another day.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/ChuaYou_30-04-2011-Fig01.jpg

redpandafire
05-29-2011, 05:07 AM
Today's update: Finishing up an old painting I started earlier in this thread.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/LL_study_001.jpg

razz
05-29-2011, 10:53 AM
Amazing stuff all around here. I liked the anatomical drawings a lot. Looking forward to much more!

Magierro
05-29-2011, 05:42 PM
love your sketches ! can't wait for more

shards
05-30-2011, 12:35 PM
really sweet works!! loved that last digital and I wish I could do figures drawing on paper that good! :P keep them coming!! :buttrock:

soundwaves
06-02-2011, 06:31 AM
Badass,....................................................... again

jabuhrer
06-20-2011, 06:43 PM
Wow! I've been away for a few months, but I was sure you have been absolutely killing it and of course you have! Very nice work. Your level of dedication and practice has always been inspiring, and I'm glad to see that you are really doing some next level stuff these days. Excellent work my friend!

redpandafire
07-03-2011, 04:13 AM
@razz: Thank you, I hope to post much more regularly!
@Magierro: Thanks! I'd like to pump out more studies too!
@Shardana: Thaaaaank you!
@soundwaves: Lol. I love the random space between all those periods. Anyways, thank you!
@jabuhrer: I've been wondering where you've been lately. :) Great to hear your back at your art! Thanks for the kind words!


... Today's update: Have not drawn anything in a long time. Practicing my line drawing. Used an old magazine ad with a very beautiful Japanese woman.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/japanese-girl.jpg

redpandafire
07-03-2011, 05:35 PM
... Today's update: I thought I'd attempt a line and crosshatch study of the next Lara Croft. I love her new look, but I don't think I captured it quite the way I'd have liked to... Pretty girls are so difficult to shade on the tablet.

http://www.chuayou.com/personal/lara-croft.jpg

Skeetch
07-04-2011, 04:51 PM
You're work is fantastic. You have a new tumblr followr!

redpandafire
09-11-2011, 02:59 PM
Thanks Skeetch. Came by to post two more:

http://i.imgur.com/Wt97K.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/6wUkZ.jpg

AJ
09-12-2011, 07:31 AM
Beautiful work. I love the oversized eyes on the last portrait.

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