View Full Version : HMC#25 The Oceans - Cleaner shrimps at work on moray
supernekosan 05-02-2010, 05:57 PM Hi,
This is my first attempt at HMC. I've been lurking on this forum since the beginning, and recently thought about trying it. This subject is great, so here's my concept for my submission. I am going to create a diorama depicting two morays and many shrimps. The main idea is to reenact a shrimp's courageous attempt at getting food from the mouth of a large moray. I will start in Max, then move on to zBrush, and finish the render in Max MentalRay. Here is my main reference for the whole scene.
http://www.earth-touch.com/result.php?i=Cleaner-shrimps-at-work-on-eel
and the base mesh for the moray done in max:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render03.jpg
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supernekosan
05-02-2010, 11:30 PM
Here's a small update, a first zbrush pass.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab02.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render10.jpg
MightyReg
05-03-2010, 02:47 AM
Nice start and sculpt so far. These shrimps sure are courageous, to go inside the mouth of the moray eel like that!
Since you are going for a diorama, would be cool if you sculpt a rock with a crevasse or a sunken log since moray eels spend the majority of their time hidden at these kind of places, the head out, waiting for preys.
supernekosan
05-04-2010, 01:39 AM
I had some time today at work to finish both the first moray and the open mouth version.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab03.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab04.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab07.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/murene.jpg
supernekosan
05-04-2010, 01:56 AM
Nice start and sculpt so far. These shrimps sure are courageous, to go inside the mouth of the moray eel like that!
Since you are going for a diorama, would be cool if you sculpt a rock with a crevasse or a sunken log since moray eels spend the majority of their time hidden at these kind of places, the head out, waiting for preys.
Yes indeed, they are really impressing. I hope to realistically portray the dangers the shrimps must withstand to survive. I will probably create a crevasse with some plants and fishes. Thanks for the idea of the sunken boat, I think it's a great idea but I prefer to keep going with vegetation and rock. So I'm done for today. Tomorrow I will start the environment.
TiMrozek
05-04-2010, 03:19 PM
Awesome choice. That is a seriously intimidating eel you made. I like the detailing so far. Do they really have that second level of teeth in the back of their throat?
Rafa-el
05-04-2010, 05:01 PM
loving the amount of detail on this one!! keep up the good work dude! :bounce:
supernekosan
05-04-2010, 08:15 PM
Awesome choice. That is a seriously intimidating eel you made. I like the detailing so far. Do they really have that second level of teeth in the back of their throat?
That's great because it's exactly the kind of feeling I am looking for. The more intimidating the moray appears, the more courageous the shrimps will look, and that's what I want to convey. They do have a second layer of teeth. It kind of reminds me of Alien, somehow. Here's a ref that shows it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Pharyngeal_jaws_of_moray_eels.svg
Thanks for the encouragement. I’ll try to get the same amount of detail for the rest of the scene.
supernekosan
05-04-2010, 11:44 PM
Okay I got more stuff done today. I had time to start the environment, and I did some test renders as well.
So I started the environment in Max 2010. Here is the base mesh ready to go in zbrush:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render14.jpg
And here is a rough of where I am going with zbrush:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab09.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab10.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab12.jpg
Hi rez:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab20.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab21.jpg
+ some test renders that give a better idea of what I am hoping to achieve:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render12.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render16.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render18.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render20.jpg
TimForbes
05-05-2010, 03:15 AM
awesome work man. i'm really liking it so far. good stuff.
DaezD
05-05-2010, 11:16 AM
wow!
love the environment and the placement of the eels. keep it coming.
Jussslic
05-05-2010, 02:27 PM
Wow, this is seriously good work. That rock looks fantastic, and I really dig the composition in the first test render you showed. Also, the fact that eels basically have a second mouth inside their mouth makes them about twice as scary to me....
supernekosan
05-16-2010, 07:30 PM
Here is a new update. I started to work on the floor and the shrimp in zbrush, and I have made some displacement tests + a new render with every element put into place. I still have to [decide/work on the pose(s)]?? and do a second pass in z brush.
Here is the [base mesh for the shrimp]? + displacement version
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render41-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render50.jpg
This is the floor made in z brush.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/ZGrab28.jpg
A displacement test for the moray.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render37.jpg
And a general idea of the final render.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v289/supernekosan/HMC/render51.jpg
japetus
05-21-2010, 11:28 PM
Holy carp! That last render is so awesome! I really hope you go with that idea, it's so crazy looking but then you reallly have to look to see what they are doing. Like it a lot!
TheRazorsEdge
05-22-2010, 07:37 AM
I agree, looks great! Keep em coming!
Cheers!
RageOfAges
05-22-2010, 09:05 AM
Very cool scene. Full of life. Keep going this is fantastic.
-rage
Luke046
05-25-2010, 01:50 AM
wow, this is looking really good. The last render was awesome, keep it up
chichiri
05-26-2010, 05:09 PM
That's epic, really good models and the diorama is cool.
Excellent models! I noticed in the displacement test that you have lost alot of details compared to the first images you posted. Maybe when the scene is locked down you should try a decimated mesh for the final or atleast for the test renders since its very fast.
MissMoneypenny
06-11-2010, 06:16 PM
The detail on this is quite amazing. Congratulations on your great efforts.
supernekosan
01-27-2011, 01:03 AM
unfortunatly my computer was not powerful enought for the last render but tank you for everyting.
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