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chrisdejoya
09-11-2003, 03:59 PM
Can anyone recommend brush settings for this? Painter seems to lay on too much paint no matter what, even at very low opacity settings. I also can't get my brushes to feel thin and watery.

tayete
09-11-2003, 06:21 PM
Maybe tweaking the "Feature" option. It controls the number of fibers your current brush has

Or perhaps "Resaturation" (page 163 of the manual) that controls the amount of "paint" that is dropped on every stroke.

I hope that helps.

tayete
09-11-2003, 06:25 PM
By the way: it is nice to find someone from the Philipines.
Though I am from Spain, I lived there for a year (at Leyte) just after Aquino was shot.
A really nice place to live, and light is sooooo different from Spain (even though we have tons of it too)...

chrisdejoya
09-12-2003, 03:58 AM
thanks, I played around with those settings and it works to some degree. Guess it's a matter of finding the right tradeoff between resat, opacity, etc. Feature settings, I tend to leave at 3 or 4.

Actually I do have a workaround, but it involves layer blend settings, and while I don't have and problems with using digital techniques in a so-called traditional paint program, it would be nice to have a glaze brush that acts as you'd expect it to...yknow just so the glaze is a right-click away.

That's great about the Philippines, it just makes me gush with pride to read that.

Lunatique
09-12-2003, 05:07 AM
Which version? 8 added glazing brushes.

chrisdejoya
09-12-2003, 05:44 AM
7...tsk well that's tempting.

Jinbrown
09-12-2003, 01:45 PM
Hi Snowfly,

Tayete's comments are good general ones, but there may be more we can tell you, knowing which Painter version you're using, exactly what brush category and brush variant you're using, and more about your particular image. For instance, are you painting on the Canvas, on Layers, on multiple Layers, and what other brush variants are used in the image. Also, what, if any, Layers are set to Composite Methods other than Default and what is the Layer hierarchy.

All of this affects how your brushstrokes will look.

Otherwise, we're only guessing and giving you broad suggestions that may or may not do the trick.

Let us know, and maybe we can help you adjust the settings to get what you want.

chrisdejoya
09-12-2003, 06:51 PM
painter 7, just the oil Brushes. custom variants but I guess they are close to the standard opaque flat, opaque round, and smeary bristles. some with no depth and some with a little depth (1%)Glazes, usually on a new empty layer set to Overlay. But I'd like to go around using layer blends and possibly paint everything on a single layer.

I've attached my brushes if you'd like to see them. There's an experimental glaze in there as well.

http://home2.pacific.net.ph/~cmijares8/Snowfly/illustration/mudokon.jpg

Jinbrown
09-12-2003, 08:31 PM
Snowfly,

I didn't take a look at all of your brush variants, just the Glaze Brush. It looks like the Airbrushes' Digital Airbrush with opacity set to 2%.

I've translated the Painter 8 Glazing Flat and Glazing Round variants for Painter 7. They're probably not exactly the same but very close.

I made both Size: 20 though they each come in three sizes in Painter 8 (waste of space).

Here they are if you want to try them. They're bristle brushes as opposed to your Glaze Brush but probably more realistic if you're simulating oils. It all depends on the look you want. They're also set with opacity at 8% but you can lower that as much as you want.

P84P7Glazing Variants (http://www.tutoralley.com/ubb/jins_brushes/P84P7Glazing Variants.zip)

Extract the Zip file into a folder somewhere outside of the Painter 7 folders. When you extract the Zip file, they'll be in a folder named "P84P7Glazing Variants". Open that folder, then copy the brush variants and paste them into the following folder:

Painter 7 > Brushes > Painter Brushes > Brushes

Happy Glazing! :)

Jinbrown
09-12-2003, 08:45 PM
P.S.

You probably already know this/do this:

If you're going to do all of your work on the Canvas, be sure to:

Save often, in Painter's native RIFF format.

Use Save As.

Save your RIFF files Uncompressed. The default is compressed so be sure to check the Uncompressed box when saving. (This is a precaution to prevent RIFF file corruption.)

Save in a numbered series of files. In case you don't like something, or Painter crashes, or your file does become corrupted, you can always go back a step to the last saved file.

Save your file and close Painter every hour or so and delete the Pre-built Brush File. It's regenerated the next time Painter is opened. Some brush variants cause this file to grow very large, very fast. Check it's size each time you close Painter and you'll soon know how often you need to shut down and delete it. It's found in the following folder:

Corel > Corel Painter 8 > Brushes

chrisdejoya
09-13-2003, 09:14 AM
thanks for copying the settings over Jin. they still feel sticky for a glaze, but I have nothing to complain about. It's really a big help.

Jinbrown
09-13-2003, 05:04 PM
Snowfly,

Maybe between your Glaze brush, the Glazing brushes, and some more experimenting, you'll find what you want. Study the settings to see what does what.

Isn't it funny how a brush variant really can feel "sticky", smooth, bumpy, or whatever?

;)

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